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Mark Teixeira Trade Speculation

Interesting trade speculation from Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News in Wednesday's Q&A.  If the Rangers - currently 14-20 - slide further out of contention, they could consider trading 27 year-old first baseman Mark Teixeira this summer.  According to Grant, the bounty would have to include pitching and a Major League-ready first baseman or outfielder.

We know Baltimore covets Teixeira, so Grant's idea of Nick Markakis and a pitcher for Teixeira could make sense on the surface.  The first baseman becomes a free agent after the 2008 season, but I don't see the Orioles sitting down with Scott Boras and working out an eight-year extension.  I'm surprised we haven't seen Teixeira's name connected to the Angels yet; they've got the talent, the need, and the history of tolerating Scott Boras.

You may recall a Ken Rosenthal article from mid-March, where he paints Baltimore as quite anxious to acquire Teixeira. Rosenthal also throws the Nats into the mix since he's a Maryland native and the team's new ballpark will be opening.  As I noted a while back, Teixeira won't be a free agent this offseason but he won't come cheap in '08.  His salary could jump from $9MM this year to $15MM or so through arbitration.

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I really don't think of Mark Teixeira. Perhaps it's because of the ridiculous contract speculations floated around here. But to me, Mark Teixeira is the kind of player mediocre teams blow 15-20% of their payroll on and they stay in 3rd-4th place for the whole of the contract. In that respect Teixeira would be a perfect fit for the Orioles, who are perhaps the team that least knows how to spend money in baseball, I can't remember so many dollars chasing so many average players.

Save the money for offense from a premium position. That is the one thing the Yankees have right - spend money elsewhere and find a cheap 1st baseman. There are too many blocked 1b/LF types to be traded for to pay Mark Teixeira $19 million a year. Last year Lyle Overbay's OPS was about the same as Teixeira's. Grab a Lyle Overbay or an Adrian Gonzalez, grab a Nomar, trade for a Thome on the cheap. Even though I think Adam LaRoche is crap, it's theoretically possible I suppose he gives you good production for cheap. Stick Craig Wilson in there. Pray for an emergence from a Mike Jacobs. Grab a cheap productive veteran like Scott Hatteberg last year. But pay $19 million a year for a 120 OPS+ 1st baseman, even worse, after trading a lot for him? No way. That's the act of a loser organization.

I think DentalPlan makes a good point, about Teixeira, and the sad nature of baseball.
Teixeira isn't 'the guy' in a lineup, he is a good hitter. In my mind, Like JD Drew.
Teixeira getting paid what he will get in a FA deal would be insane.

As for a trade, a large bounty isn't worth it, as it wasn't worth Soriano.

If a team like the Angels, or even the Red Sox, who could use a guy like Teixeira wanted him, thats fine, but he isn't a superstar, don't treat him as one.

And again 1B/3B there are a ton of guys around, a ton of players. There are Crede rumours going about for no other reason than why would the White Sox pay him when they could use Josh Fields.

I have had this 1B debate often, i mean, the power hitting 1B doesn't even really exist in the AL.

the nats won't get him. who would they give back in return?

The Nats speculation is in regards to just signing him after '08.

It is worth remembering Detroit as a Teixeira suitor. They were heavily linked to a trade last off-season, Casey is only there for this year, and Chris Shelton has worn out his welcome somewhat. They also have some decent pitching to make the deal. Something like Shelton, Virgil Vasquez and maybe a Maroth could be enough. Also worth remembering the Tigers have a great relationship with Scott Boras.

Pudge07, I don't know if Shelton/Vasquez/Maroth would be nearly enough to acquire Mark Teixeira.

Maroth is a fringe pitcher whom only strikes out four batters per nine innings.

Vasquez is 25 years old and is putting up some good numbers in AAA thus far. However, Baseball Prospectus projects him to be a AAAA pitcher. He is not on the top 10 prospect list and has never dominated any level in the minors during his career.

Shelton is decent, but IMO, not even close to Teixeira.

To acquire Teixeira, I'm sure the Tigers would have to trade at least one of their "Top Ten" prospects; Preferably a AA level prospect.

What about Darrell Rasner/Eric Duncan/ top 20 prospect the yanks could send to texas?

Why didn't the Rangers trade Tex instead of the cheaper Adrian Gonzalez?

I don't know if the Giants have the trading chips, but they could really use some offense to stick behind Barry. The fact that Teixeira is only signed through 2008 is good for them, as it would allow them to go in a new direction A.B. (after Barry). Clearly, they could not include Lincecum in a deal. What about Jonathan Sanchez or Lowry, plus some other prospects? Like I said, I don't know if they could swing a deal, but they are a team in need.

The Yankees seem like another decent choice. You get near-Mientkidoc fielding but a guy who can actually hit. I doubt they will do it though, its not like they need the hitting and (Roger notwithstanding) they have been slightly more payroll conscious the last couple years.

Another available 1B might be Sexson. He'd come cheaper, but he hasn't exactly been stellar the past couple years.

Coolpapabell,

Better question is why they traded Chris Young AND Adrian Gonzalez for Adam Eaton. It was a horrible trade before Young and Gonzalez both developed into great players and it looks even worse a year later. Even if Eaton had been healthy last year, it was a horrible trade.

Trades like that one, the Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez trade, and the Jason Jennings trade make me wonder how some GM's even have jobs!

I think the Yankees are a pretty good match. I think its going to take a lot more than Rasner/Duncan. I would think it would be something like Melky and Betances/Joba Chamberlain. Something like that would be a good starting point.

I take the point about Maroth, Shelton and Vasquez not being enough. I guess my thought process is that the Rangers would prefer to trade him before paying him, and because of that they might not get true value. Think of the Soriano situation last season - the Nats held on because the packages weren't enough, but looking back now it was a huge mistake. As someone else said with the Eaton trade - the Rangers don't exactly have a history of driving a hard bargain!

You have to remember with the Soriano deal though...he is an "A" free agent. This meant that the Nats got two pretty good draft picks from the Cubs. Not saying that fair value at ALL...but its part of the reason that they held on to him. They wanted something that would be significantly better than that...and I guess weren't getting much that was.

The Red Sox appear to be a nice fit in the off-season with Mike Lowell hitting free agency. Coco Crisp, Eric Hinske & a solid pitching prospect could get it done. It's fun to speculate how dangerous the Boston lineup could become...

Jacoby Ellsbury
Kevin Youklis
David Ortiz
Manny Ramirez
J.D. Drew
Mark Teixera
Jason Varitek
Dustin Pedroia
Julio Lugo

I think the Sox would match up well in a Teixiera deal. They could offer Youkilis along with a Delcarmen/Hansen and Daniel Bard type prospects. Even Wily Mo could be included to help fill the power void and need for an OF. I would start a deal for Tex at: Youk, Delcarmen, and Daniel Bard. Enough? I'm not sure, but that's where Wily Mo comes in. Add him in there and I think something could get done.

WestCoastBias: I think the sox would still have Lugo batting leadoff with Ellsbury down at #9 so there isn't too much pressure on him in his first year.

Agree with Ripwa, if it's the Yankees you're talking probably something like Rasner, Chamberlain/Kennedy/Betances, plus a hitter - guess that would have to be Melky.

Still don't know they have the hitter, but presumably they could make up the difference in pitching. Maybe they'd have to include 2 of those above pitchers.

I don't think the Rangers would want a 1b in return. They have Nate Gold and Jason Botts that could fill the 1b position. If the BoSox gave up John Lester I'd say that would make it happen.

Not sure what the Orioles have to offer, but with John Daniels shaky track record in past deals, I am sure the right team can fleece him.

"Better question is why they traded Chris Young AND Adrian Gonzalez for Adam Eaton. It was a horrible trade before Young and Gonzalez both developed into great players and it looks even worse a year later. Even if Eaton had been healthy last year, it was a horrible trade."

That wasn't the trade, rip it cause it was bad one but it was more than that.


You have to remember with the Soriano deal though...he is an "A" free agent. This meant that the Nats got two pretty good draft picks from the Cubs. Not saying that fair value at ALL...but its part of the reason that they held on to him. They wanted something that would be significantly better than that...and I guess weren't getting much that was.

Actually cause the cubs picked 3rd and the top fifteen picks are protected, they got the 31st and the 68th, thats a pathetic haul for Soriano.

Recent 31's, J.P. Howell(K.C.), Matt Torra(Arz), Preston Mattingly. Admitted the last one might be a decent pick, but he was a reach at 31.


Dental Plan nailed this one. Would his bat and stellar d be nice on the Sox? It would, but at the cost of "Coco Crisp, Eric Hinske & a solid pitching prospect could get it done" or " the BoSox gave up John Lester I'd say that would make it happen." Pass thanks.

I would give up Crisp+Hinske+Bard/Bowden in a heartbeat. Lester/Bucholz aren't going anywhere. Bard isn't pitching all too well and I think Bowden could be expendable if Tex was coming back

"I would give up Crisp+Hinske+Bard/Bowden in a heartbeat."

Small Sample Size Alert:

With that being said in the Lancaster which just makes it even more impressive,

W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO
1 0 1.62 0 39.0 34 7 7 41

The kid is filthy and I wouldn't include Bowden in any deal that brings a high priced 1b for a year.
If Crisp/Hinske/Bard got it done so be it. By the end of the season if not sooner he will be considered just an untouchable as Lester/Buchholz are now.

Bard isn't a solid prospect so sure toss him in there, he'll end up an reliever that can hit 100, but without the secondary pitches to make him any special.

so i light hitting poor-armed centerfielder, a marginal corner infielder, and a guy who can hit 100 out of the pen for a clean-up hitting first baseman with gold glove caliber defense. sounds fair to me...

teixeira may not be albert pujols but he's still pretty dang good. do the red sox even need him anyway?

It's way too early to throw in the towel with Daniel Bard. What kind of package do you expect for Teixeira? Because I doubt you're getting it. He's still a 120 OPS+ 1st baseman looking for big money at a position where production is plentiful and comparatively easy to find cheap. The Rangers got exactly jack squat for Soriano, sorry, I doubt that sweetheart deal is out there.

I think the Red Sox would be stupid to waste their money on Teixeira. They're not the Yankees. They can't afford to tie up $17-19 million long term in a first baseman. Tex has always sounded very bitter towards Boston because their recruiter treated him and his father like crap or something, so why overpay for a guy who probably doesn't want to be there except for the money? Spend the money better elsewhere, I say.

I think Detroit will be Tex's ultimate destination.
Dombrowski has been eyeing Texiera's for a while.
In spring training '06 there were rumblings that Texiera would be a FA target after the '07 season. (Don't forget that '07 was supposed to be the breakout year, not last year - The thought process was that Texiera or similiar FA would be the bat to get the Tigers over the hump)
Around the deadline of '06 some Bonderman for Texiera rumours started - which later morphed into minor league pitching prospects for Texiera
This past off season Sean Casey was signed to a 1-year contract - leading to speculation that the Tigers have a plan for 1B beyond this year - That plan has to be a FA, because there is not much for corner infielders on the Farm.
The Tigers are a perfect fit for Texiera, and Texiera is a perfect fit for Detroit.
Corner infielder with POP - just getting into the Prime Years.
Texiera will be the stable force in that line up that bridges the time between that Sheff, Pudge, and Mags start to slow down and before Maybin and Granderson start to find their way.
He will be wearing the Old English D - if not in July '07, definately by April '08.
If a team is going to try and pry Texiera away in July, it's up to them to convince Texas that what they are offering will be more beneficial than the compensation picks that would come if he leaves via Free Agency.
Detroit's got plenty of quality arms at the AA level, which is better than the crap shoot that is the Draft.
What do you think Texiera's next contract would look like?
6 yrs/$110M?

"I think the Yankees are a pretty good match. I think its going to take a lot more than Rasner/Duncan. I would think it would be something like Melky and Betances/Joba Chamberlain. Something like that would be a good starting point. "

I dont think so. I think it would take much more then that to pry away Tex. This guy really is a stud, he just has no protection and in a good lineup, this guy can put up silly numbers. And he plays very good de from what I hear. Add that to the fact that he is entering his prime. I think the yankees can be a good fit but I think Texas would want more then Melky and Betances. If the Mets could find a way to trade Delgado I would say offer Pelfrey and Milledge, dont know if that would get it done or even be close, but Milledge and Pelfrey would both be able to step in immideately to the big league team in Texas. I love Delgado, but he is entering probably the last couple of productive years he has left (atleast it looks that way), and I would love to have Tex. Again, I dont know if Pelfrey and Milledge would get it done, if they wanted more maybe a mid level prospect like Mulvey or something along with Milledge and Pelfrey. Again, I am not suggesting this trade, I dont even know if it would be realistic, even if the Mets had an opening at 1B. More like dreaming, Tex would do damage batting between Beltran and Wright. Maybe Texas would be interested in taking Chan Ho back? :)

i like the tigers as a possible destination too. i think robertson, granderson, and a prospect would be pretty good value for teixeira.

would the tigers include maybin in a deal for him? i'm not saying they should include him as the prospect; i'm just wondering how untouchable he is to the tigers.

Anything is possible boomshwa12, but I highly doubt the Tigers trade one of the best prospects for a 27 year old 1B. Teixeira is a great 1B, however he is going to want a long term contract. They would be giving up six years of Maybin for two years of Teixeira, unless they want to keep him until he's 35/36/37 years old.

This may be off topic, but if the Tigers want someone such as Miguel Cabrera, then I'm sure Cameron Maybin would be involved in such a deal. It would probably require more than Cameron Maybin to take Cabrera, but I see Maybin leaving Detroit only if the Tigers trade for Cabrera, or someone comparable to him.

I think the Sox would definately be interested, but not at the expense of Bowden, Bucholtz or Lester. It's much easier finding a good 1B than it is to have cheap, young, quality starting pitching. Youk/Crisp/Wily Mo/Bard/Hansen/Delcarmen/Murphy/Moss would all be in the discussion, just a matter of how many and what combination it would take to get it done.

Man, I don't know what you're talking about. Mark Teixeira is a premier player in the league, and has been for the past 3 years or so. He had a "slump" last year, in which he hit 30+ homers with 100+ rbi...do any of yall forget the huge year he had the year before? 43 homer, 144 rbi, and i think he had a .300 + average. Not to mention, a couple of gold gloves to go along with that. So trust me when I tell you, the Rangers better get something big for him.

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