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David O'Brien of the AJC writes about the Braves' arbitration plans.
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The Braves have washed their hands of Andruw Jones. They obviously no longer want him around.
Posted by: Stephen Peele | November 30, 2007 at 06:44 PM
Seems like it. But why not offer arbitration? There's no way Bore-Ass allows Andruw to accept a one yesr deal from anyone. Not to mention, I can't see how Andruw would make what he thinks he's worth in arbitration.
Posted by: tolo316 | November 30, 2007 at 06:49 PM
It would behoove Andruw to take a one year deal with someone to prove that last year was a fluke (if indeed it was) and go back into free agency next year and get his big contract. However, him and Boras are obviously delusional and still continue to think after his abysmal season last year that some team is going to give him a mega contract.
Posted by: Stephen Peele | November 30, 2007 at 06:59 PM
The Braves literally can't afford to take the risk that AJ might accept arbitration. This is exactly what happened when we offered Maddux arbitration in '03, thinking he'd reject it... when he accepted, we had to scramble to get under payroll limits.
AJ has not hit since the first half of '06. I think it's clear that the Braves don't want him back, whether it's 13 million or 20.
Posted by: AtlantaMike | November 30, 2007 at 07:09 PM
I have a question about baseball rules, if anyone knows the answer. Can a team make a trade where they acquire the Braves' rights to Jones? For instance, could the Padres send a low level minor leaguer to the Braves, and get the right to offer Jones arbitration themselves. This way, if he accepts, they get him for one year (which is probably all they want), and if he refuses, they get draft picks that are worth more than the prospect they gave up. Meanwhile, the Braves get something instead of nothing.
Is that legal?
Posted by: jakec | November 30, 2007 at 07:53 PM
I've never heard of such a thing, Jake.
Posted by: Stephen Peele | November 30, 2007 at 08:00 PM
jakec, it's legal and fairly common (except in Andruw's case he probably has a 10/5 no trade in effect).
For example, the Mets acquired Estrada from the Brewers for Guillermo Mota. If the Brewers had kept Estrada they would have either offered him arbitration or let him go. Now it's the Mets' option to offer arby or not and it looks like they won't.
Posted by: RICH | November 30, 2007 at 08:20 PM
Iguchi is neither A nor B.
He can be signed without any compensation and he cannot be offered Arbitration.
Part of his original contract.
Posted by: wz | November 30, 2007 at 08:54 PM
No, Rich. Anrduw is a free agent. The Braves don't control him. The Brewers can do that because Estrada is not a FA, he is just arby eligible. He has less than 6 years of service time.
Posted by: thechop5 | November 30, 2007 at 08:57 PM
"Is that legal?"
I will make it legal.
Send my apprentice, Darth Maul, to play CF.
Posted by: Land-Man | November 30, 2007 at 09:43 PM
I think this shows the market for Andruw. The Braves must really be worried that Andruw might not find anything better than a one year deal at $16m.
Of course, if Andruw does land a big deal the Braves will look stupid for not offering arb.
Posted by: bjsguess | November 30, 2007 at 10:21 PM
You heard about Torii Hunter being wined and dined by 4 or 5 teams, hear any of that going on with Andruw? There's not much of a market for him. He made $14 million last year and players usually get raises in arbitration. I don't think the Braves can stomach/afford Andruw for $16 million for one more year. (The lowest amount the Braves can offer Andruw is ~$12 million, highly unlikely since he hit 24 homeruns and won a Gold Glove)
At worst, the Braves lose out on a sandwich pick (Andruw's a type B) - not exactly a high pick. It's not smart business gambling ~$16 million dollars on a draft pick, especially a sandwich pick, and I hope you all agree with that. They can get the same draft pick if they offer Ron Mahay, who has a better chance of signing a multi-year deal than Andruw.
With Mahay, it's a win-win situation with arbitration. If he declines it, oh well, Braves get a sandwich pick. If he accepts it, then the Braves fill their left-handed reliever problem for one year. With Andruw, the reward is small and the danger is high. The Braves have wiggle room with their roster but not $16 million, and possibly $20 million if Mahay accepts arbitration, too.
Wren has already stated they are planning to spend the money they were going to use on next year's first round draft this offseason. One can only speculate: Francouer or Teixeira extension, possibly a Baldelli/Crisp/DeJesus acquisition.
Posted by: beeniez | November 30, 2007 at 11:24 PM
I completely disagree. I firmly believe the Braves will offer arb to AJ, he will accept, and will play for one more year. Other than the price tag, AJ for one more year would be the perfect stopgag they've been looking for.
I've been saying this for weeks, but we'll know in 24 hours if I was right or completely dilutional.
Posted by: Thundersticks | December 01, 2007 at 12:06 AM
I think Andruw may not be getting nearly as much interest as Boras is keeping up. It really isn't that difficult why they didn't offer. The team doesn't have $15+ million to spend, Andruw very well might have accepted since I doubt anyone really wants him that much, and it would only get them a sandwich pick. If he was a class A, it might be a different story, but it isn't really worth it.
Posted by: was385 | December 01, 2007 at 08:56 AM
"I completely disagree. I firmly believe the Braves will offer arb to AJ, he will accept, and will play for one more year. Other than the price tag, AJ for one more year would be the perfect stopgag they've been looking for."
Nope.
Posted by: SunKing1056 | December 01, 2007 at 11:12 AM
Nah, I think its almost impossible Andrew accepts Arb from the Braves so not offering it is a huge mistake…
…I mean think about it ~ if he is willing to accept Arb it means that not a single team is willing to give him something like 14-15M/1YR offer. I cant imagine no one would be willing to do that though, there is just so little risk! I imagine even teams like Cleveland would be willing to best that with possible incentives since it wouldn’t be a longterm commitment (ie, money isn’t restraining) but would provide possible extreme results (ala Juan Gonzalez in 2001) in any OF hole you have. The Tribe could play him at LF for the big-bat they need, make the 08 team that much better and just figure out what to do in LF again next year while he goes off and gets his huge payday… 1YR/15M-ish? You also know the ChiSox would be all over it. SD probably wouldnt bat an eye at that... No way he doesnt get comparable, ie no way he takes Arb from the Braves...
Posted by: darkstar1661 | December 01, 2007 at 03:12 PM