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The Cubs' interest in Chone Figgins persists. Dave Kaplan of WGN Radio 720 out of Chicago recently spoke of their desire to acquire him to play center field.
Jerry Crasnick spoke of the Cubs' interest yesterday, but said the Angels could ask for Aramis Ramirez in return.
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What is the Angels' problem overvaluing their players so badly? Figgins is good, definitely. But Aramis? That's hilarious. if they want to improve through trades, they're going to have to bite the bullet sometime and surrender fair value for a player.
Posted by: AkulaMkii | December 05, 2007 at 07:50 PM
Let me just say that if Reagins ask for Aramis Ramirez, Hendry should laugh in his face and ask him where he gets his crack from.
Posted by: scribbletone | December 05, 2007 at 07:51 PM
I heard that report, and I'll add that Kaplan said the Angels have a few moves to make before they could consider dealing Figgans. One move Kaplan mentioned was that the Angels supposedly contacted Detroit about Brandon Inge to play 3b. He also said he heard from his sources that the Angels are thinking about signing Eckstein for SS, which Kaplan said he wouldn't understand why.
Then a caller just asked about the Figgans for Aramis Ramirez rumor and Kaplan shot it down and asked where the guy heard it (ESPN's Crasnick).
Figgans would be a great addition, but at some point they have to work in some lower priced young players like Pie or they'll start complaining their hands are tied by the veteran's salaries.
Posted by: hemingways | December 05, 2007 at 07:55 PM
If you're a Cubs fan, tune into WGN radio, or WGNradio.com, Kaplan is talking Cubs baseball until 9pm central.
Posted by: hemingways | December 05, 2007 at 07:56 PM
ABSOLUTELY NOT should the cubs give up a-ram.
As much as they need speed and versatility, a huge chunk of power would be gone. I'll be dead before I see this happen!
Posted by: deepthoughtsbyjackhandey | December 05, 2007 at 07:57 PM
The point is not that they are overvaluing him. The point is that they don't need to trade him unless they get a monster return on him. He won't go anywhere.
Posted by: andrewh11882 | December 05, 2007 at 08:04 PM
Well actually I think they are overvaluing him, but at the same time the primary reason for such a high demand is because they really don't have any motivation to move him. Brandon Wood and Erick Aybar haven't yet proven that they're capable of being starters in the majors
Posted by: scribbletone | December 05, 2007 at 08:07 PM
Figgins sucks. Why do you think the Angels never start him. Too many people are thinking Figgins and Crawford are good just because it is fun to run with him in videogames.
Enough with ppl overvalueing players because they are speedy and hit for average..
Felix Pie is fast, stick with him.
Posted by: MrTruman | December 05, 2007 at 08:18 PM
It's funny that people are jumping on the Angels for this. If you have no intent on trading a player and someone asks about him, why not shoot for the moon? Who knows, someone might bite and give you Kazmir.
Posted by: andrewh11882 | December 05, 2007 at 08:20 PM
Angels beat writer Kevin Baxter was just on WGN Radio with Kaplan, he says the Angels are thinking about Inge, Atkins, Beltre, Rolen. He said Figgans is one of their most valuable players and he can't see them trading him, but he felt the same way about Orlando Cabrera.
Kaplan asked if Matthews Jr. might be shopped and Baxter said they've talked about that but the plan is for Matthews to play the corner spots.
Kaplan and Baxter agreed that the Cubs and and Angels don't match up well for a Figgans trade because the Angels don't need starting pitching and the Cubs don't have a SS or 3b to trade. Kaplan suggest DeRosa as part of the deal, but Baxter said the Angels like Atkins and Rolen or someone else with a good glove. (I'll add that Inge makes sense too)
Finally, Baxter suggested the Cubs might match up better to go after Reggie Willits instead of Figgans, since the Angels have a log jam of outfielders, and that Willits for DeRosa might be an even swap.
Posted by: hemingways | December 05, 2007 at 08:21 PM
I just realized one thing, Baxter said the Angels like Atkins and want a 3b with a good glove - Atkins is a poor defensive 3b, bordering on terrible. That's why Colorado has considered shopping him.
Posted by: hemingways | December 05, 2007 at 08:23 PM
Aramis Ramirez? Ho, ho, ho.
I'm not jumping on the Angels for asking -- hey, why not? But Hendry can't possibly be that dopey.
I do think Figgins is somewhat overrated. Yeah he was an OBP machine this year, but last year, not so much.
Posted by: chris heer | December 05, 2007 at 08:28 PM
what the hell is with these horribly lopsided trade rumors against the Cubs today?
Angels want A-Ram for Figgins? I wouldn't take that crappy package they offered for Cabrera for the Ram.
Any suggestion as for trading Pie or Hill for Roberts is ludicrous. Gallagher and Fuld/Patterson at most.
Posted by: thenockmlb | December 05, 2007 at 09:44 PM
That is a seriously lopsided trade.
Figgins posted an 825 OPS. Included in that was an OBP of nearly 400. He managed to steal 41 bases in an abbreviated season. He also can play every position outside of catcher.
Ramirez posted a 915 OPS. He hit under 30 HR's, didn't steal a base, and plays one position fairly well. He also played in an abbreviated season.
Figgins cost $3.75m last year. He will be $4.75 in 08. Ramirez cost $14m last year and will exceed $15.5 in 08.
So, at 3-4x's the cost Ramirez will give you an additional 25 HR's. He won't steal you a base and won't get on base as much.
BTW - if Figgins was playing for the Cubbies last year this is where he would have ranked among the starters:
BA - 1st (330 to Lee's 317)
OBP - 2nd (393 to Lee's 400)
SB - 1st (41 to Theriot's 28)
Hmmm ... yeah - the guy sucks.
And what was wrong with the Cubs offense? How about batting your FREAKING BEST POWER HITTER in the leadoff position. Soriano's 337 OBP and 19 steals are really maximized hitting 1st. How many more runs would have scored with a lead-off hitter with an OBP of 400 and the ability to steal 50+ bases? How many solo shots would be converted to 3 run bombs because Soriano has a table setter in front of him?
BTW - I wouldn't do this trade straight up for Figgins. A Figgins/Matthews deal works out to be about the same money wise. Don't have to sign anyone from Japan. Anyway, to each his own.
Posted by: bjsguess | December 05, 2007 at 10:36 PM
FYI, Aramis has a full NTC through 2010. So they can't really trade him. And for Chode Figgins? NO WAY.
Posted by: GlenallenHill | December 06, 2007 at 07:47 AM
I'd be interested in it if it was Ervin Santana and Chone Figgins for Ramirez.. I feel that is actually fair..
Posted by: apitchtackleap | December 09, 2007 at 01:37 AM