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Originally the Diamondbacks came in at three years and $27MM for coveted Japanese starter Hiroki Kuroda. That wasn't going to cut it. Nick Piecoro reports that they've improved their offer, adding money to the last two years but not increasing the term.
Jon Heyman suggested on Thursday that Kuroda could require as much as $15MM annually. That's a far cry from $9MM a year. My guess is that the D'Backs improved their offer to three years, $36MM or so. Thoughts?
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he'll be a Mariner. Like hell if his family wants to dry up in the desert. Dbacks won't outbid the M's and if money is equal, he comes to pitch to a catcher that has a clue what he's saying...
Posted by: Oly | December 10, 2007 at 10:39 PM
First words out of Kuroda's mouth. I want to play somewhere warm. Good luck to Seattle trying to tell him the Sun comes out in M's land. 2nd word out of Kuroda's mouth is he wants to play for a contender. Ummm.. M's? Contender? Oxymoron... Enough said.
Posted by: AngryTick | December 10, 2007 at 11:01 PM
if he wants to play somewhere warm, then he should go play in LA where Hasegawa is pushing him to sign. If he wants to play on the surface of the sun, then maybe he'll go play for Melvin.
Posted by: Oly | December 10, 2007 at 11:10 PM
Yeah, I dont care about either of those teams. I don't ever think weather is nor should be a factor, and if it is then they should have been golfers. However, I do think everybody wants to be on a contender. Arizona definitely has Seattle beat there. This Kuroda sounds more uppity everytime I hear something about him. I'm surprized he doesn't wanna be a Yankee
Posted by: goathedxxx | December 10, 2007 at 11:17 PM
A part of me is hoping that Seattle loses out. I really have that feeling that Kuroda is going to pull a Kei Igawa on the league.
Posted by: thr33niL | December 10, 2007 at 11:37 PM
I seriously think the Dodgers have a good chance at signing him. They have everything he wants: A good team, warm climate, serious interest, and money. This would be a great pickup for the Dodgers because then they wont' give up the young studs for pitching and can concentrate on getting a good third basemen.
Posted by: DanDodgerD | December 11, 2007 at 12:12 AM
You can't really compare Igawa to Kuroda their two different styles of pitchers. Igawa coming over was more power while Kuroda is a control artist. Whether this translate better who knows. I do like his low walk and home run rate and the fact that he mostly pitched in a hitter parks, but that low strikeout rate scares me. I can't stay he is really worth 3 years at 15 even in this market. I myself would rather take a risk with 1 year incentive laden contracts with an option on Clement or Colon then I would give out 3 years to him. Although he could pull a Nomo and be totally worth every dollar. Thats the fun thing about figuring out Japaneses pitchers.
Posted by: engelbone | December 11, 2007 at 12:22 AM
I'm so craving some Johan Santana news/updates, anybody got any?
Posted by: | December 11, 2007 at 12:27 AM
This is the same Hiroki Kuroda that was 12-8 in Japan? And he's a soft tosser on top of things? Who in their right mind would give someone like that $15M per? Or even $12M per? Haven't people figured out yet that Japanese players are a crap shoot? For every Dice K, there's an Igawa. There's been at least one bust for every decent (not great) hurler that's come over from Japan, and I'm inclined to think the ratio actually favors flops over successes.
Posted by: | December 11, 2007 at 12:35 AM
Mark my words, Kuroda will be a Mariner by the end of the week only because the only main thing in any deal nowadays is money, and the M's are offering the most amount of years with the most amount of money, enough said.
Posted by: Eclipsial | December 11, 2007 at 12:49 AM
would LOVE to see my Royals grab both Kuroda AND Fukudome. oooh that would be awesome!
Posted by: bobhamelin | December 11, 2007 at 12:51 AM
Reality check time. Kuroda is not Igawa. Someone said that Igawa is a power pitcher while Kuroda is more of a finesse man. This is not true at all. Igawa attempts to pitch like a power pitcher, but he doesn't have the stuff for it (at least not the stuff which is good enough for the majors). Igawa's fastball velocity is just slightly above average. His out pitch is an elevated fastball. When that dialed up 92 mph fastballs comes floating over the plate high in the strike zone, MLB hitters feast on it. Kuroda is a different kind of pitcher with better stuff. He has a low-to-mid 90's fastball, with a plus forkball, a good shuuto and an average change. The forkball is his out pitch. So he has better stuff that Igawa, better control and a better approach for facing MLB hitters.
And all this talk about weather is laughable. I know Kuroda mentioned something about playing in warm places, but like 95% of baseball players, he's looking for money. Hell, that's why Japanese players leave their homeland to play in a very foreign country; they can get a hell of a lot more money here. Whoever gives him the best offer in terms of dollars and years will win, period.
Posted by: | December 11, 2007 at 01:13 AM
Arizona did have a great year but let's not get too eager to label them perennial contenders. They did have an amazing season of scoring less runs than they scored and yet made the playoffs.
While I think they will continue to improve there is just as much likelihood that they take a step back before taking a step forward.
Posted by: bjsguess | December 11, 2007 at 01:32 AM
*** should have read "They did have an amazing season of scoring less runs than their opponents scored on them and yet made the playoffs".
Posted by: bjsguess | December 11, 2007 at 01:34 AM