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According to Terence Moore of the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Braves are apparently sticking to their guns and going forward as buyers, not sellers. Moore writes:
"Braves manager Bobby Cox informed [Mark] Teixeira and others as much on Friday in a team meeting. 'Bobby pointed out that there had been rumors about me and [reliever Will Ohman], and he told us not to listen to media reports and to those rumors, because this team is still trying to win the [National League East],' said Teixeira."
The Braves could dramatically tumble out of it quickly if they struggle against the Marlins and Phillies in upcoming series', but Moore feels they wouldn't mind the draft picks or even the chance to re-sign Teixeira if it meant remaining competitive.
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While I still think we should trade him, if something has changed and the Braves feel that they can resign him, then by all means lets see if we cannot get something going. I just hope that the braves do exhaust all efforts to try and find a no-brainer for him, simply because we do need to make sure if we do not sign him, we are at least content that we tried our best to get max value for him. However, since Cox said what he said, it makes me the think that right now, the return for Tex is just not worth trading him away.
Posted by: bravesbeast | July 20, 2008 at 09:57 AM
If the braves can resign him, that would keep them in contention no matter who else is on that team, him and chipper in the middle is scary no matter which way you slice it. But since reports of him asking for 23 mil a year(I think, correct me if I'm wrong) will keep the braves from resigning him. So I say let him go or trade him.
Thing about letting him go and getting the draft picks, is that next years draft is not supposed to be all that great. The only sure thing from what I can tell, is Stephen Strausberg. That guy can play. So they won't be receiving fair compensation persay. So if they trade him and can get 3/4 of the prospect haul they gave up for him, I say they go for it. Send Tex to dodgers for Looney, LaRoche, McDonald + 1 and it's done. Just my thoughts.
Posted by: AriGoldisaG | July 20, 2008 at 11:00 AM
This is Bartolo Colon all over again. There is no way Atlanta is keeping Texiera this winter as he wants 20 million a season. What a horrible trade when it happend and it continues to get worse. Texeria is a slightly above 1st baseman who is unclutch and has declining defense. The Braves may have done the worst trade in the last 50 years. Andrus: Gold Glove SS with much more upside than Escobar a perfect #2 hitter. Feliz: The next Volquez or Liriano with clean mechanics is hitting 101 on the gun with a plus changeup and plus curve. Salty might bust but might do what Phillips has with another team. Harrison is a #5 starter. Jones is a lefty in the pen. The guy the Braves didn't trade instead of Andrus is Jordan Schafer who is hitting .215 with more K's than games fresh off his 50 game suspension for roids.
Posted by: Bravesfanuc | July 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM
", I say they go for it. Send Tex to dodgers for Looney, LaRoche, McDonald + 1 and it's done. Just my thoughts."
That would be an awesome package for Atlanta. I'm just not so sure that the Dodgers would ever be willing to do that. I mean the owner nixed a deal that would move LaRoche, McDonald and 2 lower prospects for Sabathia, Blake and Carroll, and he vetoed it. That would've made them favorites. In my opinion the time for the Dodgers to make a blockbuster has passed, they dropped the ball on that one. again.
Posted by: scribbletone | July 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM
"Texeria is a slightly above 1st baseman"
Ding Ding Ding
He won't be traded because he ain't worth what the Braves paid, or what he'll command in the off season, and the Braves likely won't let him go for half of what they paid.
Posted by: Meoveryouok | July 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM
However, the way to gauge the value of Teixera when debating his worth should not be based on how he compares to the numbers of other 1st baseman in the majors. It needs to be gauges on how much he improves the lineup of the team he is traded too. For instance, in the case of the dodgers, Teixera automatically becomes their best run producer and makes them much more dangerous; however, he would probably replace loney's output, so it might not be worth to the dodgers. In the case of the angels, Teixera is a definate upgrade over kotchman, is gives a definate overall upgrade to the Angels lineup. Therefore, Tex might be worth a few quality young players since the Angels have the depth to give up a few young pieces and still have very good core for the future. You can argue that how Teixera's numbers compare to other 1b all you want.... but when it comes to trades, you have to base the value of the player on how much he improves the team he is being traded too. In the Angels case, he is a definate upgrade over kotchman; furthermore, since the angels have a lot of quality young players, they could give the values a desired bounty for Tex and still have a strong core for the future.
Posted by: bravesbeast | July 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM
"What a horrible trade when it happend and it continues to get worse. Texeria is a slightly above 1st baseman who is unclutch and has declining defense. The Braves may have done the worst trade in the last 50 years. Andrus: Gold Glove SS with much more upside than Escobar a perfect #2 hitter. Feliz: The next Volquez or Liriano with clean mechanics is hitting 101 on the gun with a plus changeup and plus curve. Salty might bust but might do what Phillips has with another team. Harrison is a #5 starter. Jones is a lefty in the pen. The guy the Braves didn't trade instead of Andrus is Jordan Schafer who is hitting .215 with more K's than games fresh off his 50 game suspension for roids."
1. andrus has no pop and gets thrown out stealing 1/4 of the time, which doesnt transition well to the bigs. escobar is the top ranked defensive ss in the nl and hits at a major league level.
2. tex is NOT slightly above average. he's a gold glove defending first baseman, and his fielding this year has matched his career. his offensive numbers are about where there always are at this time of year and he will end up with a line close to his career average 35 hr 120-130 rbi's.
3. salty had no place in our organization and has had major ups and downs at the minor league level, complimenting only downs at the show.
4. schafer was not suspended for steroids. it was hgh and is not even in the ballpark with steroids.
5. jones and feliz are 4-5 years away from being big leaguers. jones is a dime a dozen and feliz is way too raw to know anything yet.
6. matt harrison is getting rocked in the majors.
you took a bad time to try and prove your point.
the worst trade in the last 50 years? seriously.....? sigh....
Posted by: ryan c | July 20, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Really doubt the Braves re-sign Teixeira since he is a Boras agent.
Posted by: icedrake523 | July 20, 2008 at 12:41 PM
I think the Braves would be lucky to get 1 top 50 prospect for Teixera. Or a major league first baseman. I don't know if the Dodgers would give up Loney or if the Angels would give up Kotchman. I think a sleeper team that no one is talking about is the Diamond Backs. Tex would make them the clear frontrunners in their division and they are one of the few teams that has a need at 1B. They could offer Jarrod Parker and Chad Tracy. I'm sure the Braves would accept that. The Braves get an OK first baseman to replace Tex, and a very good pitching prospect in Parker. For the D-Backs, Parker is blocked by their several young pitchers. Chad Tracy would be blocked rght now with the addition of Tex and for the future when Jackson moves back to 1B and Byrnes is in LF. I know they traded for Tony Clark, but he has only about 0.3MM left on his contract. They could use him as a backup 1B or just release him. I think this trade makes a ton of sense for both teams.
Posted by: Joe | July 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM
1. andrus has no pop and gets thrown out stealing 1/4 of the time, which doesnt transition well to the bigs. escobar is the top ranked defensive ss in the nl and hits at a major league level.
2. tex is NOT slightly above average. he's a gold glove defending first baseman, and his fielding this year has matched his career. his offensive numbers are about where there always are at this time of year and he will end up with a line close to his career average 35 hr 120-130 rbi's.
3. salty had no place in our organization and has had major ups and downs at the minor league level, complimenting only downs at the show.
4. schafer was not suspended for steroids. it was hgh and is not even in the ballpark with steroids.
5. jones and feliz are 4-5 years away from being big leaguers. jones is a dime a dozen and feliz is way too raw to know anything yet.
6. matt harrison is getting rocked in the majors.
1) Andrus is hitting .300 as a 19 year old in AA, check Renteria's numbers in AA as a 19 year old. Andrus is a deadring for Renteria.
2)Texeria has blown many opportunities to get RBI's, his power is average and was aided significanly by Texas.
3) Salty, yes he isn't needed but he still could become an impact player.
4)Schafer is mediocre at best and is another Kotsay at best.
5) Feliz is in AA at age 20 and is dominanting in the Texas League which is a hitters league. He just had an outing in which he K'd 8 guys in 6 IP with 2 BB and 4 Hits.
6) Harrison: Like I said, he's a backend starter.
Posted by: Bravesfanuc | July 20, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Good rule of thumb is to ignore anything Terence Moore says. He'd be the last to know.
Posted by: Land-Man | July 20, 2008 at 01:24 PM
Terrance Moore is perhaps the the most ignorant and racist sports writer in Atlanta. No one who knows anything about sports pays any attention to his drivel.
The Braves are done without question for 2008. To see them playing out the string in July like they are shows their lack of heart. They are more than a few pieces from being a winner. That makes them sellers unless they are delusional.
Look for Wren to deal Tex and Ohman and perhaps a surprise such as Hudson.
I just marked my season tickets down on Stub Hub as I refuse to go to any more home games. Too painful to waste the energy it takes to go to the games.
Posted by: northbeach Scott | July 20, 2008 at 02:28 PM
Terrance Moore is perhaps the the most ignorant and racist sports writer in Atlanta. No one who knows anything about sports pays any attention to his drivel.
The Braves are done without question for 2008. To see them playing out the string in July like they are shows their lack of heart. They are more than a few pieces from being a winner. That makes them sellers unless they are delusional.
Look for Wren to deal Tex and Ohman and perhaps a surprise such as Hudson.
I just marked my season tickets down on Stub Hub as I refuse to go to any more home games. Too painful to waste the energy it takes to go to the games.
Posted by: northbeach Scott | July 20, 2008 at 02:52 PM
teixeira through 143 games with braves: .290 avg .381 obp 35 hr 34 2b 127 rbi's
what more do you want? that is not an average 1st baseman. what was aided by texas?
as for your comparison to renteria, you're right, he does compare to him through 19. if you're a SS that has no power and hits for decent average, i "guess" you can be compared to renteria. you could also compare him to omar infante. that was not my point. he has no power. that would be ok if he had a high percentage of success rate in the stolen base department, but he doesnt. and that would even be ok if he had a high obp, but at .340, that's nothing to shake a stick at.
neftali, one of the throw-ins, might have the potential to be good. that still wasnt my point. calling it the "worst trade in 50 years" is a bit of an overstatement considering none of the 5 prospects have shown the ability to play well in the major leagues including two (jarrod and matt) that were considered "major league ready talent". if 3 of the 5 guys become starting major leaguers that can produce, then i would say it was a bad trade, but, as of now, the braves have come out on top. once again, only time will tell.
Posted by: ryan c | July 20, 2008 at 03:07 PM
I'm a Braves fan, and not a huge Tex fan. But I watch pretty much every Braves game.
I have to say - Tex is an ABOVE average defensive first baseman. His fielding percentage this year is .998, and I've seen him grab quite a few balls that would have been hits otherwise. Don't discredit his defense.
By all means, however, please feel free to discredit his clutch performances, in my opinion.
Posted by: LOSTlover | July 21, 2008 at 12:08 PM