Bedard A Non-Tender Candidate?

"Well, I could see him going to the Yankees or Mets."

I recall hearing he was nasty with the media. I don't think it'd be a good experience for him if he did.

I'm surprised he's doing the surgery now. If he's going for exploratory, it means they don't really know what to expect. If they find anything serious, it would make sense for the Mariners to non-tender him.

I would only do it if he has major shoulder problems. Shoulder problems are alot worse the elbow issues any more in my opinion, seems that pitchers come back with less velocity and it takes them awhile to get back to anything close to what they were prior. Let some other team rehab him if thats the case. Imagine that he would have to sign a two or three year deal to get any team to bite.

Oh the comments that used to come when Guru ruled this site. If he was here he'd probably tell us how good a trade this was. This has to be one of the biggest rip off moves of all time!

How can you even compare the Bedard and Haren trades? Bedard isn't pitching now. Haren behind Webb forms one of the best 1-2's in the NL, and Haren is 15-8 with an ERA in the low 3's.

I fail to see any connection other than both team gave up a number of good prospects - the resulting gains for the M's and Dbacks aren't even comparable.

From August 4th to September 5th, Bedard gave up something like 71 baserunners and 29 runs in 42 innings. Don't know if that was the exact numbers, but it was something in that ballpark. Even after that stretch, he still has a 3.24/1.12 line. And better numbers then Brandon Webb pretty much across the board. What is too complain about?

Oh. Bedard will never be non-tendered as long as Lincoln and Armstrong are at the helm of the M's.

I remembering mentioning Bedard's attitude problems last January and being dismissed outright because a few Ms fans argued that Baltimore is a lesser city and hopelessly out of contention than Seattle. All I got was a description of how beautiful Seattle is and how sad Baltimore was.

I take no pleasure in seeing the Ms get this round of bad luck on them and I feel bad for Ms fans. Seriously. I just tried to forewarn Seattle fans that Bedard's temperment is not the usual type. I can't say what exactly goes on inside his noodle, but it's not the typical motives most competitive athletes have. I thought Bedard might get a tad more inviting in Seattle because winning can help smooth these things out. No one would have predicted that his attitude would have gotten worse and more aloof.

Just for the record, I don't think Bedard is cocky at all. I think he is just super suspicious of reporters and sees them as being exploitive. It comes off as being directed towards fans which isn't the case. But, some reporters, if they get personally offended, they tend to present him in a bad light and make him appear quite cocky.

I non-tendered I see Him signing with the Giants. He doesn't like the media? What better team then the Giants...nobody seems to like them, they quietly loose every year, there future seems to look VERY good. They'd have a dominant pitching staff. He could rehab with the Giants and be up in no time. I also think that C.C. will sign with the Giants, but not if they get Berdard. But wouldn't that be dominance...
1.Sabathia
2.Lincecum
3. Berdard
4. Cain
5. Zito
That would allow the Giants to trade for hitters. Hmmm, the Giants should do it.

This is stupid. Yanksfan is the only one that got the point that the surgery is exploratory not reconstructive.

Essentially, an exploratory surgery is when a surgeon creates a slit in the shoulder area and enters with a microscopic camera in order to determine if any internal tissues, muscles, tendons have been damaged. There is a likely chance the Doctors will find absolutely nothing wrong with Bedard's shoulder and all this speculation will be wasteful.

Think about it for a second; we are speculating on Buster Olney's speculation based on the Mariner's speculation that the Doctors could "possibly" find something wrong with Bedard's shoulder. That sure sounds like a lot of speculation to me.

"Care to explain? Seeing as how Haren has created a great 1-2 punch with Webb, I think Arizona is pretty happy. They gave up a ton of prospects, but it's not like they're getting burned like the M's"

Well, the obvious reason for the trade was winning this year. And now it looks like they arent even going to make the postseason, while they gave up two young promising starters in Smith and Eveland, Carlos Quentin and three other good prospects. Dont get me wrong, Haren brought what he was supposed to, I just think they overpaid big time for an opportunity to win this year and they arent winning.

Juice, it's certainly possible that the find nothing wrong, but, people generally get exploratory surgery when they expect to find something wrong.

MRIs aren't great. They generally only find really bad damage. As much as I hate to say it, Curt Schilling's blog entry on his surgery was a great read. He talked a lot about how the MRIs didn't show any damage, but there was a lot wrong when they went in.

Ouch, I had surgery on my labrum 6 weeks ago, I just got out of my sling today, and now I have 28 weeks of rehab

for pitchers they are career killers (Robert Pearson, Rob Nen, Ryan Anderson) but I want to say that Chris Carpenter had the surgery done, then won the cy young

Yes Melonis... my mistake, it should say Haren and not Bedard in that post. My bad.

Start wearing purple,

He's injured and probably won't be back until Late July Early August of next season, why hang on to him if he ain't gonna pitch and obviously waste a roster spot for someone that probably has talent.

erik bedard is french-canadian but he is not quebecois
eastern ontario is across the river from Que and has always been a bilingual area.
fine line, maybe, but it's a bit like going around 'informing' everyone that some dude from eugene, oregon is "a californian"