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Nationals Looking For Cleanup Hitter

According to MLB.com's Bill Ladson, the Nationals are looking for a cleanup hitter.  Their targets: Adam Dunn, Prince Fielder, Matt Holliday, and Mark Teixeira.

The Nats probably do not have the depth to pull off a trade for Fielder or Holliday.  Teixeira will command a contract in the $150MM range.  Of the four, Dunn makes the most sense.  He can be had for less than $100MM, and GM Jim Bowden has a history with him.


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Just great, the Cincinnati Reds of Washington D.C. Bowden is terrible and if he signs Dunn to play left or first, this will further prove his inability to leave his former players alone. The man is down right obsessed with former Reds.

Really, really bad idea for the Nats. They have so many other needs.

With or without Dunn they are a cellar dwelling team.

Totally agree horrible idea all around. I love Tex but he's not coming to DC. They should trade for a young blocked power hitter Blanks from SD, Butler in KC, maybe even Davis from the Rangers. They would cost less in prospects then Holliday or Fielder, would be under team control for 4-6 years and would cost a fraction of the price. Dunn isn't worth it in my opinion can't hit lefties and actually struggles the most when he bats 3rd or 4th in the order. Also his defense isn't great in left and I feel 1B isn't a great fit for him as well. Don't waste the draft pick on signing him.

Nats need to be building their farm system, not trading prospects for anything.

Jim Bowden needs to be fired ASAP.

They can build their farm system all they want but power hitters just aren't there. 3 best hitters in the Nats system Marrero got injured in Potomac still prob 2-3 years away. Burgess had a great year in A ball but again still 3 years away. Destin Hood 2nd round pick this year played well but didn't show much power prob 4 years away. Nats have to acquire a power hitter some how either through a trade or signing a FA (and giving up a pick). I think now is the time to trade for a young power hitter what ever pitching they give up (Balester, Martis, Willems) they will replace with Stasburg and the best pitcher available at #10. They have 2 top 10 picks and there is a ton of pitching available in next years draft.

Agreed, Bowden's a virus for this team. They need a brilliant baseball mind in there. It's hard to even take this team seriously as they are right now.

They need to hire a great GM, scouts with great knowledge of players in leagues worldwide (Mexico, Venezuela, Japan, Korea), and then we can talk.

This offseason I think they should go for Gregg, Colon, Mulder and maybe make a cheap deal for Adam Kennedy.

This sounds ridiculous and would no way ever happen, but Varitek would be great for this team. No one would care about the numbers he'd put up and he'd be a great asset to a lot of the young guys on that team.

I think I'd faint if the Nationals signed any player other than a retread out of free agency.

No to everyone but Mulder could be a steal if he comes back and if he doesn't it wouldn't cost too much. Why spend the money/prospects for Gregg the nats didn't have the worst record in baseball b/c they lacked an effective closer. Hanrahann can do a decent enough job. Colon I don't think has it in him anymore not to mention the history plenty of Nats fans wish we could have had Siezmore, Lee and Phillips instead of the 3 months of Colon with the Expos. Adam Kennedy wouldn't be an upgrade over what the Nats have in the MI Bonifacio has speed and is still young give him a shot. I respect Varitek plenty but the game has passed him by he's not a great defensive catcher and is horrible offensivly. As for his 'game calling' it must be pretty easy to call a great game when you have Beckett, Dice-K, and Lester throwing to you. Flores could be a solid catcher in the majors so they should stick with him.

"Really, really bad idea for the Nats. They have so many other needs.

With or without Dunn they are a cellar dwelling team."

I've never understood that logic, so because they suck otherwise they shouldn't try and improve their team? Well how the hell are you supposed to get better if you just sit idle while sucking?

It's not like they have a ton of help on the way from the Farm System as things stand right now.

Someone like Dunn brings a serious threat to a lineup that quite honestly doesn't have many of them. How does that not help them work their way out of the cellar?

b/c the money and pick could be better spent. Dunn is too much of a 1 dimensional player. Why commit $12-15 million a year for him? The nats won't be good the next two years so that would be $24-30 million wasted as well as giving up the first pick in the 2nd round. Your best hitter shouldn't be riding the bench against your oppenents ace but how can anyone justify playing Dunn against guys like Santana and Hamels. They should spend that money on a pitcher (Penny or Garland) and the draft.

The Nationals do have a pretty low payroll, and Dunn could really help that offense. If a 4/64 type deal wouldn't adversely affect their long term payroll and draft budget, there are worse moves they could make.

I really agree that Bowden has to go though. That organization has no direction and doesn't even seem close to contending. They need a new voice to help build that team for the future, Bowden has proven he can't do that.

ADropOfvenom ...

Here's my thinking.

When you are a bottom dwelling team with no prospect of improving immediately, you should avoid the following activities:

-- Sign expensive FA's - these players typically won't impact the standings or increase your revenue enough to off-set the investment. You give up a draft pick and potentially block young players who, in a few years, are ready to play but can't because they are blocked by an expensive FA signing.

-- Trade minor league talent for one or two year rentals. Another common mistake that hardly ever works out. The team makes marginal improvements but ultimately enjoys watching their former prospects become young, cheap players in some other organization.

IMO, 90% of clubs cannot spend their way out of being terrible. They would be much better off using their resources on better drafts and player developments. Sprinkle in smart FA signings and gamble on some rule 5 players. Then bide your time until you have the right pieces coming up. It isn't a quick fix but it will work.

Trade them Dye, or Swisher. Hopefully Dye.

As a nats fan in order for them to get more than 10,000 a game we need to bring in a slugger to complement zimmerman and dukes.

"Trade them Dye, or Swisher. Hopefully Dye."

Jermaine Dye for Ross Detweiler and then some?

I just think that there is no way the Nats give up young talent for a hitter. They need all the young talent they can get.

"b/c the money and pick could be better spent."

While I would agree that pitcher is probably their largest need, they could do worse then turning their Offense into a serious threat by pursuing someone like Adam Dunn. Their Offense is a need too, you know. A lineup including Dunn, Dukes, Zimmerman, Milledge, Flores, and maybe Nick Johnson has the potential to be above-average.

"Dunn is too much of a 1 dimensional player. Why commit $12-15 million a year for him? The nats won't be good the next two years so that would be $24-30 million wasted as well as giving up the first pick in the 2nd round."

How many .900 OPS bats do the Nationals have in their lineup currently? That's right, zero. Yes, he has some flaws, but that's the reason he's a feasible option to a team like the Nationals. They have a chance to get a .900 OPS bat for a reasonable price, you take the good with the bad.

Here's one thing we do know, the Nationals won't be contenders next year as currently written. They might, MIGHT, be able to make some noise if they make a couple smart moves. Adam Dunn could be one of them.

As for the Draft Pick, the 1st Pick of the 2nd Round is usually about 45th Overall. They might be able to sign someone there that would help them, but odds are Dunn would contribute more to help them win then that pick would.

"ADropOfvenom ...

Here's my thinking.

When you are a bottom dwelling team with no prospect of improving immediately, you should avoid the following activities:

-- Sign expensive FA's - these players typically won't impact the standings or increase your revenue enough to off-set the investment. You give up a draft pick and potentially block young players who, in a few years, are ready to play but can't because they are blocked by an expensive FA signing."

Disagree.

An "Expensive FA" can be a part of a rebuilding effort, if you do your homework correctly on that player. An "Expensive FA" is usually signed for a long-term contract, making him a part of the long-term outlook of the club. He becomes a piece that you can build around long-term, and that's well worth the (estimated) 45th overall pick in the draft.

And exactly who would Adam Dunn be blocking? Dunn is an option to move to First Base down the line if you have a can't-miss Outfield Prospect (Which might I remind you, right now they don't have).

"-- Trade minor league talent for one or two year rentals. Another common mistake that hardly ever works out. The team makes marginal improvements but ultimately enjoys watching their former prospects become young, cheap players in some other organization."

Agreed. But we're not talking about trading for Alfonso Soriano again (Or in this case, Matt Holliday). We're talking about someone who becomes a part of the clubs long-term outlook.

AdropOF Venom,

"How many .900 OPS bats do the Nationals have in their lineup currently?"

But there is the rub, Dunn is NOT a .900 OPS player when he is playing AWAY FROM GREAT AMERICAN SMALL PARK!

GASP opened in 2003. In 2003, 2005, 2006 and 2008, Dunn's OPS was LOWER than .900 away from GASP all of those years. So, to get to .900 for the season, he was GREATLY helped by GASP.

If you don't think this is true look what happened once he was traded to Arizona. In 2008 with the Reds, he was averaging a Home Run once every 11.09 At Bats. Once he was traded to the D-backs that dropped to one HR in every 18 At Bats. For a full season of 525 At Bats, it means his HR production dropped from a pace 47 to 29.

Gee, imagine that, ole Leatherpants is looking to add yet ANOTHER ex-Reds player to his team.

Like Austin Kearns, Felipe Lopez, Wily Mo Pena, Dimitri Young, Aaron Boone and a couple of other guys weren't enough the last couple of years.

New slogan for the Nationals, "Washington, D.C. - the place where ex-Cincinnati Reds players go to finish out their careers."

Money needs to be spent elsewhere?

Money isnt thrown out enough for this team. A big bat is what they need most along with bullpen.

Any of these players will fit in the clean up spot and will compliment the likes of Zimmerman, Dukes, Milledge and Flores.. Even Johnson depending who we get/sign.

Konerko for Guzman? That would help the sox greatly and the Nats get their power hitting first basemen they want.

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