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Rosenthal's Latest: Peavy, Teixeira, Burnett

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [November 15, 2008 at 9:54am CST]

Ken Rosenthal's got an interesting new column up.

Now that talks with the Braves have ended for the time being, Padres GM Kevin Towers is talking with the Yankees about Jake Peavy. The Yankees have had "numerous discussions" with the Padres, even though they just offered C.C. Sabathia a contract and are still considering A.J. Burnett and Derek Lowe.
Peavy's agent Barry Axelrod said that "the Angels probably would be more appealing" geographically, but "from other perspectives, they might be less appealing" than other teams
Rosenthal talked with an agent who said that the Angels could wait a week or 10 days before making Mark Teixeira a "knockout offer" with a deadline.
Even though the Yankees traded for Nick Swisher, they could still have interest in Teixeira if he's willing to consider a shorter contract of four or five years for top dollar.
Blue Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi knows that Toronto "won't be the highest bidder" for A.J. Burnett. Ricciardi hopes that Burnett likes Toronto enough to re-sign.
The Indians are considering going after both Juan Cruz and Jeremy Affeldt instead of an experienced closer.
The Phillies and Giants could also bid on Cruz.
The Cardinals will have interest in Affeldt and Joe Beimel as they try to strengthen their bullpen.

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Peavy AND CC on the same team. Scary.

Posted by: melonis rex | November 15, 2008 at 10:00 AM

"Even though the Yankees traded for Nick Swisher, they could still have interest in Teixeira if he's willing to consider a shorter contract of four or five years for top dollar."

I think that if Teixeira would accept a four- or five-year deal, it would be with the Angels, who are as flexible money-wise as the Yankees are.

Posted by: Ksy92003 | November 15, 2008 at 10:00 AM

The Angels are in no way shape or form as flexibile with money as the Yankees are. Not even close.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 10:07 AM

it wouldnt be a weaker a package it would be a package based on what the Padres actually asked for PITCHING

Posted by: GeneralManager | November 15, 2008 at 10:12 AM

While the Cubs don't have much in regards to pitching, or prospects in general, what exactly do the Yankees have besides damaged goods in Phil Hughes and a couple impressive bull pen arms?

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 10:15 AM

"I think the 5 player package is more appealing because the Padres have Kouzmanoff."

wat

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 10:16 AM

CubsGM, this is to you buddy, you can be a hater on the yankees all you want, but in reality you are ignorant and jealous of a franchise that has won a ton of world series THIS CENTURY... Unlike your little cub bears... Until you can even sniff the world series, you mine as well stick to being a Chicago Blackhawks fan, cause its scumbags like you that give Cub fans a bad name.... Do us all a favor and go play in traffic!

Posted by: RwStevens13 | November 15, 2008 at 10:24 AM

I love to hate on the yankees as much as anyone, but their farm system is light years ahead of chicago's. If they want to put a package together that's better than the cubs, they definately can.

Posted by: SkiBolton | November 15, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Now just because of CubsGM post i hope the Yankees do acquire Peavy and CC
Sabathia
Peavy
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte

Posted by: BaseballFanatic40 | November 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM

"I think the 5 player package is more appealing because the Padres have Kouzmanoff."

what does that mean? Kouz is not a long term option for the Padres. He has some pop, but he only walked 23 times last season. His OBP was terrible. The reason the Padres wouldn't want Vitters is because they have Headley, unless they think they could trade either one.

Posted by: bfender | November 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM

The Cubs do not have the players to get Peavy.A 3 team trade is the only way the Cubs get Peavy. Cubs fans stop offering a package of Marsahll,Pie,Cedeno because those guys are garbage.

Posted by: DTogo | November 15, 2008 at 10:34 AM

I hope the Yankees dont acquire Peavy. This will easily cost Jackson and Hughes and more prospects. The Yankees will have one of the worst farms if they pull off this deal. They're probably just going to overpay for CC and Burnett. The Padres overplayed their hand. They should of took whatever the Braves were offering.

Posted by: yankfan1 | November 15, 2008 at 10:37 AM

"I love to hate on the yankees as much as anyone, but their farm system is light years ahead of chicago's. If they want to put a package together that's better than the cubs, they definately can"

I didn't comment on which system was better, even though I mentioned the Cubs lacked prospects, I said the Yankees aren't flush with pitching either. They have Hughes, bullpen arms and some young arms in the lower levels with potential.

More pitching than the Cubs? Sure.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 10:38 AM

"They should of took whatever the Braves were offering."

Umm no

Peavy is still signed. They could deal him at the deadline, the winter meetings, or next year and he wouldn't lose value

unless he tanks or something.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 10:38 AM

The cubs definately do have the players to get peavy...they just aren't the names being thrown around here. I think it's pretty safe to assume that soto's trade value is as high as anyone in baseball, not that they would even consider trading him.

Posted by: SkiBolton | November 15, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Dellin, Brackman, Hughes, Montero, and Jackson would all be pushing vitters as the top prospect in the cubbie system. The yanks have quite a bit of good young talent, and have not used the top guys in recent trades. They are one of many teams that could top offers out of the cubs minor league system.

Posted by: SkiBolton | November 15, 2008 at 10:46 AM

"I think the Cubs should offer a package of Marsahll, Hart, Cedeno, and Vitters or Veal and Pie."
Yeah they should offer a 26 year old lefty who isnt even considered a prospect anymore (Marshall), a backup middle infielder (Cedeno), a fast outfielder who cant get on base because he is impatient and cant hit(Pie), a reliever with an era this year of over 6.00(Hart), and either pitcher who is consistently inconsistent (Veal) or a 3B who the Padres dont need(Vitters)
Yankees could counter that offer easily with a crappy offer of their own:
Ian Kennedy (better than Kevin Hart)
Melky Cabrera (better than Pie)
Cody Ransom (equivalent to Cedeno but he can play all positions with more power and he made the last out in Yankee Stadium)
Phil Coke (younger and better than Marshall)
Marcos Vechionacci(a 3B with a cannon arm who the Padres wouldnt want bc they have Chase)
Now that offer is horrible i know that (especially for JAKE PEAVY) but its way better than the offer you said your cubs should put in... therefore in my opinion if its between the Yankees and Cubs the Yankees are light years ahead because their isnt even 1 top prospect in that offer...

Posted by: BaseballFanatic40 | November 15, 2008 at 10:48 AM

"Dellin, Brackman, Hughes, Montero, and Jackson would all be pushing vitters as the top prospect in the cubbie system. The yanks have quite a bit of good young talent, and have not used the top guys in recent trades. They are one of many teams that could top offers out of the cubs minor league system."

I disagree, Vitters was considered the best high school hitting prospect in the 07 draft. After a slow start he's regained form and is still a 5 star prospect with a prodigious bat.

Montero could potentially rate higher if he sticks at C. Brackman is coming off TJ, Betances is a reliever and for some reason Phil Hughes is still hyped.

I'm not saying Vitters is God, he's just ranked higher than anyone you mentioned.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 10:58 AM

If I'm Phil Hughes I would love to pitch in PETCO. That being said as a yankee fan while I wouldnt want to see Hughes leave, I would love having Peavy and CC

Posted by: 26andCounting | November 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM

Kenan and Kel:
The Padres have to trade him this offseason because of what is going on with their ownership so that's a given.

Now with the Braves out of it that leaves the Cubs, Angels and Yankees

Out of those 3 teams the Yankees definitely have the advantage in pitching prospects. Unfortunately outside of Austin Jackson and catcher Montero the rest of their positional prospects are extremely thin. As far as pitching prospects go they have Hughes and Betances at the top with guys like Ian Kennedy and Chase Wright a step behind.

Also as far as everything you hear about a player not wanting to play for a certain team. Take all of that with a grain of salt. If the Yankees guarenteed his option and gave him an extension he would be on the first jet to the Bronx.

I try to be an extremely unbiased Yankees fan. And I still put the chances of Peavy coming to NY around 25% but that number I feel is increasing day by day.

An ideal rotation with Peavy involved would be:

Sabathia
Peavy
Wang
Chamberlain and

Mussina, Burnett and Lowe in that order.

Wait and see if Mussina retires. If he does go after AJ because if he does get hurt during his contract its the #5 slot and you could easily plus a rookie/spot starter in at times. If the Yankees fail on the first 2 go after Lowe who would provide great experience and durability at the end of the rotation.

Posted by: PatKelly14 | November 15, 2008 at 11:02 AM

Kenan and Kel:

Betances is not a reliever. Get your facts straight..

Posted by: PatKelly14 | November 15, 2008 at 11:04 AM

BaseballFanatic,

You aren't thinking logically regarding Vitters and Headley. Either Vitters OR Headly could be pushed into a corner outfield spot and still be a highly touted prospect. Having two mashers than can play 3B, LF or RF is not a bad thing, especially since both are a couple years away.

Note that I'm not saying the Cubs are offering a package worthy of Peavy (or that they even could if they wanted... I really think they're trying, heh), but to say that Vitters is worthless because of Headley is just incorrect.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 11:06 AM

"Cody Ransom (equivalent to Cedeno but he can play all positions with more power and he made the last out in Yankee Stadium)"

lol that last out in Yankee stadium increased his trade value a ton.

And I love the idea of the Yankees signing Burnett as their #5... a 4 year 80 million dollar #5 starter! Maybe they can sign Manny to be a 4th outfielder lol

Posted by: Peagle8 | November 15, 2008 at 11:07 AM

"The Yankees wont get either Peavy or Teixera. Nor will the Yanksbe in the playoffs next year no matter who they sign. I am soory to say but they are the ones that have proved time and time again you cant buy a World Series."

Boy cubs fans never fail to dissappoint. Your ripping the yanks for doing the EXACT same thing the cubs have done since '06; spend incessantly. Well, atleast the yanks won some playoff games, which is more than could be said for the hapless cubs.

Posted by: rollingdeuce | November 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM

"Kenan and Kel:
The Padres have to trade him this offseason because of what is going on with their ownership so that's a given."

See you don't know this for sure. There have been varying reports they want to slash payroll. One report indicated they wanted to be under 40 million, another said they wanted to cut it in half. Towers did say their hand was not forced with Peavy, he mentioned that if the right pieces didn't come along he could wait.

Personally I don't believe the Pads are so hurt for cash they absolutely could not wait until say the trade deadline to move him. Either way, they've already shown they aren't going to accept a low ball offer.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM

PatKelly... or they could trade Gile's 9M, eat Peavy's 11M for the year (or until the trade deadline) and be no worse off.

Yes they need to cut costs, but it isn't Peavy or bust for them, they have a 38 year old right fielder making almost as much.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 11:09 AM

Im not saying thats what their offer would be but it surely can compete with the Cubs offer that you proposed because that offer was crap... The Yankees by far have a better farm than the Cubs do and your just a jealous Cubs fan who is upset because the Yankees front office actually cares if the Cubs care so much dont you think they would have done something to have at least gotten Mark Cuban by now

Posted by: BaseballFanatic40 | November 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM

"Betances is not a reliever. Get your facts straight.."

My mistake, I was thinking of Melancon.

Either way they aren't rated higher than Vitters, which was my original point.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM

Rollingduece, are you trying to compare the Yankees 210M payroll to the Cubs 115M payroll?

We had the 7th highest payroll in the majors... you had a mid market teams payroll separating you from the #2, let's not get into spending here.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Now just because of CubsGM post i hope the Yankees do acquire Peavy and CC
Sabathia
Peavy
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte

Don't forget 20 game winner Mussina. That rotation is just sick.

Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM

"he Yankees by far have a better farm than the Cubs do and your just a jealous Cubs fan who is upset because the Yankees front office actually cares "

You do realize it's posts like this that make everyone think Yankee fans are arrogant, idiotic, wastes of human flesh?

Just wasn't necessary and no I'm not a Cubs fan.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 11:11 AM

BaseballFanatic, you're an absolute idiot ...

" if the Cubs care so much dont you think they would have done something to have at least gotten Mark Cuban by now."

Yeah, I dont know WHY we haven't traded for a new owner yet.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Oh of course no one knows for sure. That's why following the medias every word is useless cause no one knows for sure. That's another reason I don't trust when I hear about a player refusing the goto another team but then ends up there. it's all non-sense..

And as far as The Yankees go, I don't want them to lowball anyone and I don't expect them too if they make the trade it will be because it was the best one for the Padres to make.. So we will see what happens..

Posted by: PatKelly14 | November 15, 2008 at 11:13 AM

Who the F*** ever said they TRADE for a new owner

Posted by: BaseballFanatic40 | November 15, 2008 at 11:15 AM

cubsgm:

The only thing that has to be said here is that if you think the Yankees aren't getting Sabathia, you are dillusional. There is no way they will be outbid and even if a west coast team offers him a contract lets say within $25 Million, The Players Union will never allow him to take the lower offer.

Posted by: PatKelly14 | November 15, 2008 at 11:21 AM

CubsGM, ID be very surprised if you ever even stepped on a ball field, except for maybe the weenie manager of the 9 & 10 year old T Ball team... You are just too ignorant to admit they will be in the playoffs and make a push for the World Series Trophy.. You probably are one of the idiots calling Jeter one of the worst SS in the league, you obviously watch little to no yankee games... 3 or 4th in the Division? Haha, keep filling up the water cooler RADIO, cause thats about all the competency you have about baseball... Not everyone from NY is from the city moron, once again proving your dumb ignorant view on this game...

Posted by: RwStevens13 | November 15, 2008 at 11:23 AM

The cubs already have a great pitching staff thats headed by Zambrano and Harden if they get Peavy their rotation would be sick and they would almost certainly be a lock for the playoffs... based on their farm system i dont think their going to acquire Peavy but it could happen... I just feel like the Yankees could put up a better offer even if the Cubs put in Vitters (who i think has tremendous upside)... the whole factor of Peavy wanting to stay in the NL may(more likely) or may not have a factor of where he goes

Posted by: BaseballFanatic40 | November 15, 2008 at 11:24 AM

"You probably are one of the idiots calling Jeter one of the worst SS in the league, you obviously watch little to no yankee game"

Statistically speaking Jeter has consistently been among the worst defensive short stops in the AL. Combine his paltry and declining defense with offensive numbers trending downward and you could make the case Jeter is not only terribly overrated but not very good.

" There is no way they will be outbid and even if a west coast team offers him a contract lets say within $25 Million, The Players Union will never allow him to take the lower offer."

I don't think they will be out bid. But if the Giants come close to whatever the Yankees are offering, or maybe add a year or two there is nothing to say CC can't accept that offer. The players union wants him to accept the highest because otherwise he's taking potential dollars from other players, but they cannot force him to.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 11:31 AM

Pat, the smart bet is, of course, that the Yankees will get Sabathia. But being the highest bidder is not an automatic entitlement to acquire a free agent, particularly if the dollar amounts get so absurd that leaving a few million dollars on the table is worth the ability to choose the ideal location.

Also, though the Players Union has considerable influence once a player has already signed a contract -- and can exert all the pressure they want on a player considering multiple offers -- they have NO authority over where a player choose to sign, or why. So they might not *like* it, but they would have no choice but to *allow* it.

Posted by: DunkinDonuts | November 15, 2008 at 11:34 AM

i am saying their great in any means at least not yet anyway but i have been a yankees fan for my whole life 34 years and anyone that thinks that phil hughes or ian kennedy could make it in new york after the johsn santana debacle is a complete moron although one or both maybe an ace of staff in the near future it will not be in new york trade them now before you really cant get nothing in return

Posted by: dangolubiewski | November 15, 2008 at 11:35 AM

Sabathia
Peavy
Wang
Chamberlain
Pettitte

Don't forget 20 game winner Mussina. That rotation is just sick.

Funny but I can only count 2 of them under contract next year. You better hope someone out west like the Giants dont offer 6 years 135 because CC will take it and leave the Yanks. Mussina is retiring, Pettite you can have and Peavy your not getting.

cubsgm,

read my name CAREFULLY. Do you really think I care about the yankees rotation? i was just making a statement. That, if it happened would be the best rotation in baseball hands down.

Posted by: philsWSchamps | November 15, 2008 at 11:37 AM

Yes yes I know that the players union can not force a player to sign somewhere. But as was said they can put incredible pressure on the player to take the higher valued contract. Long story short. Its a 99% chance he becomes a Yankee. And I'm willing to bet he will sign within 2 weeks.. Maybe sooner.

Plus winning is important, my point being that if the Giants were to come close, would he want to play on a team that will be a loser for the next few years? Who knows..

Posted by: PatKelly14 | November 15, 2008 at 11:45 AM

The Yankees just don't have the goods to get Peavey unless they include Joba Chamberlain.

San Diego is not going to give away Peavey just because Yankee fans think they are entitled to him. San Diego wants at least one young, big league proven player in exchange (completely reasonable request)and they don't want Cano. Hughes and Kennedy are still prospects but they are not as hot as they were a year ago.

Peavey right now is a much better pitcher that Chamberlain and while Chamberlain has a lot of upside (which makes him desireable)Peavey is a pitcher who the Yanks could count on for the next several seasons if they want to get back to the playoffs.

Posted by: bernie | November 15, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Hey Radio(CubsGM),

Slow pitch softball doesnt count, and you can complain all you want, but 13 straight playoff appearances, with 4 world series championships in that time... Please remind me Radio how many WS titles you have the Cubs won in the last 100 Years? almost 90 wins makes them a garabage team too huh? Jeter has more heart and class than your whole team combined.. How did your slow pitch softball season go this year? you guys actually win a game?? By the way im not a fair weather yankee fan, im from NY..

Posted by: RwStevens13 | November 15, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Some of these posts make me wonder why Tim allows anyone to post comments at all...

Posted by: hiya | November 15, 2008 at 12:04 PM

Bernie, I hate the Yankees so much that just thinking about them makes it burn when I pee. Nevertheless, they could definitely acquire Peavy without Chamberlain. I tend to think Kennedy is slightly overrated, but Hughes still has tremendous value. The hype surrounding Austin Jackson has raised his value considerably, as well.

Also, let's not forget that pitchers whose stuff may not translate as well in the AL East might be more valuable commodities in the NL West, and more specifically with the Padres (weaker competition, weaker division, cavernous ballpark).

The Yankees are one of the few teams on Peavy and Axelrod's radar that actually have the pieces to entice the Padres.

Posted by: DunkinDonuts | November 15, 2008 at 12:05 PM

yanks 09

1. J. Peavy
2. C. Sabathia
3. A. Burnett
4. J. Chamberlain
5. C. Wang

maybe

Posted by: arod13 | November 15, 2008 at 12:10 PM

"Jeter has more heart and class than your whole team combined.. How did your slow pitch softball season go this year? you guys actually win a game?? By the way im not a fair weather yankee fan, im from NY.."

The first sentence made me laugh until I shat my pants and the last one killed a part of me. Slow pitch softball season?

You too are a clown.

"The Yankees are one of the few teams on Peavy and Axelrod's radar that actually have the pieces to entice the Padres."

You are consistently Mr. Politically Correct when it comes to the Yankees even though you're a sox fan.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Sabathia
Peavy
Burnett
Wang
Chamberlain

Four guys with a lot of injury history and one guy who has pitched 500 innings the past two years and is bound to start showing some wear and tear.

This, boys and girls, is how you spend over $300 million on a pitching rotation and still be questionable for the playoffs in the toughest division in baseball.

Posted by: gwhempel | November 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM

"Hughes and Kennedy are still prospects but they are not as hot as they were a year ago."

Both passed the 50 inning limit and are no longer prospects. To say they aren't as hot as they were a year ago is probably the understatement of this entire thread.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:31 PM

"I am assuming your poor based on your lack of class and by the fact your a worthless piece of ****."

I will also assume you're poor based on your total destruction of the English language, which seems to indicate a lack of education. A trait commonly associated with the under privileged.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM

"Who the F*** ever said they TRADE for a new owner."

Let me give you a hint of what is going on...

A man named Sam Zell owns the Cubs.. he is selling the Cubs. Mark Cuban bid the highest amount at 1.3 billion for the Cubs, Wrigley and a piece of the television rights.

Now, please look back at your quote. You say the Cubs don't care because if they cared they'd at least get Cuban?? You think they own themselves, and should sell themselves to someone that STILL needs to be approved by baseball owners and Selig?? The Cubs have NO control whatsoever regarding who owns them... it's Sam Zell's, other owners, and Selig's decision. So while you never said they "trade" for a new owner, your comment was about that dumb, which was my point.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Also, besides Jackson, and Hughes who else do they have to trade for Peavy. I think the Cubs should offer a package of Marsahll, Hart, Cedeno, and Vitters or Veal and Pie. I think the 5 player package is more appealing because the Padres have Kouzmanoff. If Towers wouldnt except that he wont except a much weakier package from the Yanks.

LMFAO. The Yankees farm system is MILES ahead of the Cubs farm system. Your Cubs homerism and Yankees bias is so horrible. Hughes is a top young pitcher, and Jackson is one of the top outfielders in the MiLB. The Yankees also have Jesus Montero, who is atleast equal to anything the Cubs could give up.

Posted by: defense | November 15, 2008 at 12:36 PM

Peavy wouldnt wave his no trade clause for the Yanks anyways

Says who? Reports a couple weeks ago said he would? Are you Peavy's agent? If not, how do you know?

Posted by: defense | November 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM

cubsgm:
mastery of the english language could sure help your cause right now. spelling is sooo elementary

Posted by: theBabe666 | November 15, 2008 at 12:41 PM

theBabe,

The shift key was placed on your keyboard for a reason, let's try using it appropriately when trying to belittle someone else.

Posted by: Bdlugz | November 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM

"LMFAO. The Yankees farm system is MILES ahead of the Cubs farm system. Your Cubs homerism and Yankees bias is so horrible. Hughes is a top young pitcher, and Jackson is one of the top outfielders in the MiLB. The Yankees also have Jesus Montero, who is atleast equal to anything the Cubs could give up."

Scouts across the board seem to agree Hughes is no longer "a top young pitcher." Yes he still has upside, but there are probably 20-30 pitchers rated higher than him. Not to mention no one was deserving of insane hype he received last year.

What is your qualifier for top outfielders? Jackson is a nice athletic, toolsy center fielder who is beginning to put the pieces together. Because he's a Yankee he gets a lot of hype, but he isn't a top 10, 15 or maybe even 20 outfielder.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:48 PM

"The Yankees also have Jesus Montero, who is atleast equal to anything the Cubs could give up."

Vitters is a better prospect than Montero, at least among most baseball minds. His name has also come up in Peavy trade talks.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:52 PM

Some of you guys should just look something up before you post it. Yankee, Cub, Red Sox or whatever fans.

It takes 2 minutes to not look like a moron.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 12:53 PM

"It takes 2 minutes to not look like a moron."

It takes 2 seconds to look like a jerk.

Posted by: hiya | November 15, 2008 at 12:56 PM

I get burned for not using my shift key, yet you let him get away with murder. & please don't make me explain it. D ouche

Posted by: theBabe666 | November 15, 2008 at 12:59 PM

"It takes 2 seconds to look like a jerk."

Ahh are you one of those who prefer to spit out baseless "facts"?

Didn't mean to offend

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 01:07 PM

"Ahh are you one of those who prefer to spit out baseless "facts"?"

No, what you are doing is trying to refute opinions. You don't have to add insults to your comments. If someone believes their player is great, don't try and change that. They're not the GM of any team.

Posted by: Smartalec92 | November 15, 2008 at 01:15 PM

Thanks, Smart, but I think I can speak for myself.

Posted by: hiya | November 15, 2008 at 01:16 PM

We will get everyone we want. These morons on this site dont know jack.
We will sign sabathia, Burnett, Lowe and resign Petitte. We will also trade for Peavy giving us a 7 man rotation. Fire

Posted by: yanksgm | November 15, 2008 at 01:17 PM

cubsgm: Not to say that Montero and jackson cant turn out better in the bigs.

Cant turn into or will. When will the Cub fans learn that every single player on the Yankees (including the minors) is better than every single player on the Cubs. I love the Yanks

Posted by: yanksgm | November 15, 2008 at 01:20 PM

I don't get it, are you telling me what to do?

You do realize this is the INTERNET?

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 01:26 PM

By the way I wasn't calling anyone specifically a moron. It was more of a general announcement, it helps to look something up before you post it.

I fail to see how that is so offensive.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 01:27 PM

"Thats not true Jackson is in the top 10. I'd place him 8th.
The OFs I'd put above him in this order are

Maybin - Marlins
Rasmus - Cards
McCutcehn - Pirates
Snider - Jays
Martinez - Mets
Gonzalez - Rockies
Colvin - Cubs
Jackson - Yanks"

Colvin? He isn't close to being on this list. I don't even think Gonzalez is the best outfielder on his own team, I'd take Fowler.

Also some younger guys with higher upside like Heyward, Stanton, Jennings, Saunders.

Again, Jackson is a good prospect but in my opinion he benefits from being a good NY prospect.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 01:32 PM

Kenan and Kel

Colvin? He isn't close to being on this list. I don't even think Gonzalez is the best outfielder on his own team, I'd take Fowler.

Also some younger guys with higher upside like Heyward, Stanton, Jennings, Saunders.

Again, Jackson is a good prospect but in my opinion he benefits from being a good NY prospect.

I have to agree with Cubsgm(ehhh).... You stated earlier to look things up before posting why dont you do that. I respect the fact that you have some knowledge of the playes and everything but come on. Players with upside is not what was being discussed its the top prospects. I do agree that the players you mentioned do have upside however

Posted by: yanksgm | November 15, 2008 at 01:39 PM

so in summation the yankees will get peavy because of their pitching depth.

Posted by: GeneralManager | November 15, 2008 at 01:49 PM

"I have to agree with Cubsgm(ehhh).... You stated earlier to look things up before posting why dont you do that. I respect the fact that you have some knowledge of the playes and everything but come on. Players with upside is not what was being discussed its the top prospects. I do agree that the players you mentioned do have upside however"

No, the original point was that Austin Jackson is a top prospect, not the top prospect in NY.

I asked whoever made that point to clarify what a top prospect was and then made my own point, Jackson is a nice player but there are at least ten outfielders I would rank above him.

Posted by: Kenan and Kel | November 15, 2008 at 01:55 PM

I'd say Jordan Schafer is also a pretty big omission from that list of top OF prospects. He was a much more highly ranked prospect coming into the season and he easily outproduced Colvin in AA this year at a younger age.

Posted by: nixa37 | November 15, 2008 at 02:25 PM

Baseball America has him as the Yankees TOP prospect, and as one of the best prospects at the end of this season. But I guess you know more than they do. Since he is a top 20 outfielder in your biased view, he obviously sucks

Posted by: defense | November 15, 2008 at 02:27 PM

I'm not too familiar with the Yankees' farm system but would they halve a middle infielder to offer for Jake?

Posted by: Peavo | November 15, 2008 at 02:59 PM

"Umm no

Peavy is still signed. They could deal him at the deadline, the winter meetings, or next year and he wouldn't lose value

unless he tanks or something."

Um, no, yes he would, because he gets more expensive next year, and once that happens, he is no longer an ace for a bargain price, he is an ace at market value, and anybody can surely realize this does not help his value.

Posted by: nrmax88 | November 15, 2008 at 04:13 PM

"and for some reason Phil Hughes is still hyped."

Being a Redsox fan does not require you to say incorrect and ridiculous things about Yankee prospects in spite of your own credibility. Just a pointer.

Posted by: nrmax88 | November 15, 2008 at 04:16 PM

How stupid would I sound if i just said and Clay Buchholz is still for some stupid reason considered a good pitching prospect, though I don't know why. By the way... J-E-T-S take that Tom Brady.

Posted by: nrmax88 | November 15, 2008 at 04:18 PM

"You do realize it's posts like this that make everyone think Yankee fans are arrogant, idiotic, wastes of human flesh?

Just wasn't necessary and no I'm not a Cubs fan."

You do realize that posts wondering why people still value Phil Hughes makes people think the same thing about you, no?

Posted by: nrmax88 | November 15, 2008 at 04:22 PM

we can all make generalizations of what COULD happen with rotations; all the yankee and cubs posts about potential (though) unlikely rotations. you can add those pitchers to any team and it would be dynamite. Lets say for the angels signing CC and trade for Peavy

CC
Peavy
Lackey
Santana
Saunders

That would be sick, but we never really know what will happen untill it actually does happen. anything COULD happen

Posted by: cook | November 17, 2008 at 04:29 PM

good thing the angels choke every year.

they'd lose, even with that rotation.

Posted by: cben | November 18, 2008 at 06:57 PM

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