Pirates Talking To Turnbow

Huntington really loves his hard throwing relievers. Not that I have a problem with it.

"Huntington really loves his hard throwing relievers. Not that I have a problem with it."

Turnbow can still throw hard? I think you mixed your words up. Huntington loves relievers that use to throw hard, but can pitch worth crap anymore.

Pedroia 6 year extension. 40.5 million.

"Is this a report from you or what?"

Its actually true. Its on ESPNEWS, and a few other places.

I was just wondering if that was some oddly placed idea of his or something that had actually just occurred. Glad to have that clarfied.

"They need a top of the rotation starter. Next year when the real Pittsburgh prospects start coming up like McCutchen, Alvarez, Tabata, and Walker it would be nice to have a decent rotation."

Totally agree. I really think that Pittsburgh should be concerned with the long term outlook of their pitching staff. The minor leagues really won't have much to offer outside of guys like Moskos, Ohlendorf, Morris, Lincoln and McCutchen, and they really don't have much else. Unless guys like Snell and Gorzelanny bounce back and Maholm maintains his performance, they'll be in trouble.

But the offense should be very interesting in the long term with guys like McLouth, the LaRoches, Doumit, Moss, Pearce, Alvarez, McCutchen, Walker, and Tabata.

Why would they do that?

Trade our best power hitter for Reyes or Morton two guys who put up horrible numbers last year, a far inferior outfielder, and a scrub prospect, get serious.

You are going to have to blow the Pirates away for McClouth. He is cheap and under the Pirates control for a long time.

Have you heard what they want for Wilson well McClouth has more value

"Have you heard what they want for Wilson well McClouth has more value"

Yes, I have. That's why he is still a Pirate.

"We need to move Sanchez and Wilson now."

Wilson will be a Pirate until his contract expires, or Pirates lower the demands. Have fun trading Sanchez too. So, if Pirates want to trade players, they need to start talking their good players.

Only way I'd want McLouth traded would be if we were blown away. I'd want a young starting pitcher who's had success at the MLB level. Nate could maybe be replaced with McCutcheon or Tabata, but Cutch hasn't hit well enough in the minors to justify trading the best hitter on the team.

Jack Wilson will be moved this year and their is more to baseball than hitting dingers. Thats why 5 teams are interested in him when they can sign Furcal or Renteria without giving up a player.

Your proposal sounded not very good and Bucsox was right that any trade for McClouth would have to include Hanson.

Jack Wilson washed up young!

BravesRed, you have to look at it from the Pirates perspective as well.

Why would they want to trade the best players on their team for marginal prospects? Reyes has failed miserably every season he's been in the majors. It's not hard to find pitchers like him. Jones is no better than the OF'ers we have now. I agree that they shouldn't expect to get a lot for Jack Wilson, but don't act like he's useless because that is not true.

It just ticks me off as a Pirates fan because for so many years we've traded away our best players for guys who never seem to work out. There comes a time when if you have a good player, you have to keep him and try to win.

If 6 teams contacted the Pirates for a washed up guy then maybe they are the one with suspect GMs. Seriously Jack Wilson is not washed up and has a lot of value to some teams.

McLouth won't get dealt. The Pirates need to give their fans a reason to come to games next season, and an offense with McLouth, Doumit, the LaRoches and Moss is at least interesting.

Unless they could land an elite prospect and other young players, moving McLouth doesn't make sense.

They're more likely to move him once McCutchen is up and they can use guys like Moss, Pearce and/or Walker in the corners.

If McLouth is dealt, they would have to get an elite pitching prospect in return.

So from Atlanta, would they do McLouth for Tommy Hanson and Gregor Blanco/Josh Anderson?

"For Pirates to get Hanson or Jurrjens, individually, it will cost them McLouth, and about some more top prospects, because Pirates farm system is not impressive."

Yeah, I'm sure the Braves would have no interest in either Andrew McCutcheon or Pedro Alvarez.

I wouldn't think McLouth as an untouchable. For the right prospects, you move him. Atlanta fan is reaching in trading for him for a handful of fringe prospects.

Medlen/C. Johnson/B.Jones/Reyes or Morton for McLouth?

Two pitchers, two outfielders. Medlen and Johnson are two of the top fifteen prospects in the Braves farm system.

Hanson and Heyward are worth more right now, then McLouth is. Medlen is considered one of the top pitching prospects in the minors. He can out do nearly any pitcher Pirates have. He's in the top 10 prospects of the Braves, that would make him like #2 or #3 in the Pirates farm system.

Alvarez is probably gonna be the Pirates future SS, so Pirates don't need Escobar. The catchers name is Tyler Flowers. I think my last trade proposal would be more than enough, the Pirates could throw in a prospect to make it even.

How about this: If Braves can sign Burnett, Pirates can have Escobar, Morton, and another prospect for McLouth.

If you would want Escobar, Morton, Reyes, and Medlin. You better be adding atleast one more prospect to the list with McLouth.