Red Sox Sign Pedroia To Extension

what a freakin steal.

Do you think the Giants could get the same sort of deal out of Lincecum?

We'll compare it to other deals signed by other young ROY/MVP winners.

"we represent the lollipop kids, the lollipop kids, the lollipop kiiiiiiids..."

So, six years at an average of $6.75 million a year. That's a steal.

obviously solid signing. To me the comparison will be Utley's 7 year $85 million deal but Utley's was signed after 2.5-3 years while Pedroia's is after 2 but this is a solid signing and a very good deal for the Red Sox.

Do you think the Giants could get the same sort of deal out of Lincecum?

He's already come out and said he's going year to year. And you really can't compare pitchers to hitters like that.

I like him, but for the Sox fans sake I hope he tears an ACL.

"Do you think the Giants could get the same sort of deal out of Lincecum?"

I think he has said he wants to take it year to year.

Nice to see one of Boston's young stars take a reasonable contract, unlike Papelbon who's made it abundantly clear that closers should be trying to break the bank and screw their teams out of money.

Great signing for Boston.

Pedroia would have made a little above the minimum in 2009. So while you say 6.5 million average is a steal, consider that the Sox could have had Pedroia for probably a $5.5 million average over the next four years (making $30 million in arbitration would have required Pedroia to continue to put up even better seasons than 2008...not exactly likely).

Remember that this deal, like most deals, is backloaded. Pedroia is going to be making something like $12 million in his first 'free agency' year, not $6.5 million.

Pedroia cashed in on his unlikely MVP season. Good for him.

How many years until he was a FA?

HE SUCKS.....OVER RATED....SHOULD NOT OF WON THE MVP...MY COLLEAGUES ARE STUPID!!!!!

"Howard, however, was coming off one of the most amazing seasons ever the year before. In his arb season he posted an OPS of 976 (144 OPS+), hit 47 bombs and drove in 136 runs."

Yeah lets compare the power numbers of a fat 1b to a second basemen.

Theres definately a lot of uncertainty between now and 2012. He did the right thing by signing. Besides, he can always hold out in 2012 or whatever.

Boston did the right thing too.

I wonder if he got a no trade clause.

I'm the worst kind of Yankees fan because I'm congratulating Dustin Pedroia on his financial success?

I don't see where this is a slam-dunk good deal for the Red Sox. Those are very rare. Evan Longoria and James Shields are the only deals I can think of which have almost zero downside. The Red Sox basically just guaranteed Pedroia what he would have gotten in arbitration anyway (assuming no significant decline in skill), and those 2013 and 2014 numbers are only a good deal if Pedroia continues his career path, which isn't exactly a guarantee. Remember Marcus Giles?

Breakdown of the contract from Tony Massarotti is linked above.

"Without the option, the deal is worth an average of $6.75 million, which immediately becomes Pedroia's average annual salary from 2009 to 2014. That $6.75 million is the number which will be used in the formula to determine the Sox' payroll for luxury tax purposes."

This can't be right, can it? If that's how the calculations are done, why would it matter that he gets less now and more in the later years?

"I'm the worst kind of Yankees fan because I'm congratulating Dustin Pedroia on his financial success?"

You can't help but find fault, can you?

"So while you say 6.5 million average is a steal, consider that the Sox could have had Pedroia for probably a $5.5 million average over the next four years (making $30 million in arbitration would have required Pedroia to continue to put up even better seasons than 2008...not exactly likely)"

"While you never know what a player is really like personality wise; I think this signing gives a lot of evidence to the fact that Pedroia simply loves the game."

This was one of the highest pre arb guaranteed long term contracts ever handed out.

Sure it's not as much as David Wrights or Hanley Ramirez but Pedroia got PAID.

UTLEY IS A GIMP

UTLEY IS A GIMP

haha. that gimp played half the year with an injury that sidelined Lowell.

That gimp is one tough SOB and a "World F----in Champion"

I'll still take Utley over Pedroia but its a nice argument to have.

>>How does 40 million guaranteed over six years benefit Pedroia?

>Jeez I don't know..

The reason I'm asking because i wondered if he should have waited for a better pay out. But now I see the breakdown and the terms/his pre-arb years/arb years/FA date and comparisons to like players. Seems like a good deal for both parties in the end.

I think this deal is a sign that Pedroia is the next captain of the Sox. Once Tek is completely out of the picture, Pedroia will be adorning the C.

scribbletone,

i agree, but was trying to be "polite" to Red Sox fans. The argument i'd love to get into eventually IF his production continues is Utley vs Jeter or Utley vs Joe Morgan.

I think Utley has similar leadership qualities and professionalism to Jeter (remark about NY at the ASG and at the parade notwithstanding). And that play in the WS this year reminded me of Jeter's flip play against the A's. Always heads up.

He's a scrappy 2B. 6 years from now it won't be a good deal or bad one, assuming good health. I tend to think this past season might be an abberation.

The closest comparison I can think of might be like if the Braves extended Furcal in his Age 24 season. Furcal went onto be in the running for MVPs. By the end of his stay at Atlanta, he had been having occasional health issues that really flared when he was in LA.

His teammate, Marcus Giles, might be the cautionary tale to that.

That being said, for the BoSox, it's a small price for a starting 2B.

Pedroia is a great young player. Congrats. I don't want to bother to go thru the post again, but I think the guy that said "Pedroia fits the Boston mold" was actually trying to pay him a complement kenan and kel. Stop being a reactionary homer.

"Stop being a reactionary homer."

Why the hell would you talk to me?

Oh and are you 30? You ignore the question every time, I'd love an answer...

I'm a grown ass man that's who I am. My question to you is why are you reacting so negatively to some of these posts? it's not like anyone said anything bad about Pedroia or his team. Jeez. READ!!!!

"Pedroia is obviously a very good player and fits the Boston mold"

How was the poster's comments insulting or worthy of your response?
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Pedroia fits ANY mold

I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Grow up and comprehend the guy meant it as a complement to Pedroia and the team's charachter.

"But I think the Yanks and Sucks have two of the best 2B in the AL..."

talk about biased opinions.

*shifty eyes*

As a note, if you want people to take you seriously, YanksFan, don't accuse people of being a homer when you are seemingly incapable of not insulting a rival team every single time you reference them. The Sucks thing is beyond old and indicates a relative lack of maturity.

Kudos to Theo Epstein - and I don't just mean the actual signing, which I like. I'm applauding the fact that the first time I heard about the Pedroia contract is when it was announced. No leaks. No drawn out process. No circus. Do you realize how disciplined an organizations has to be to keep something like this under wraps from the Boston and national media? The Sox have come a long way since the day Theo resigned because he was tired of higher ups pimping the baseball operation team's work to the Boston Globe. This is a triumph of both personnel AND process. Good stuff.

Hahaha...biased opinion? Did I say "Cano was the best 2B in the AL or did I say that Cano and Pedrois are TOW OF THE BEST...."? Is that an untruth?

And as for my reference to them as the "Sucks"...deal with it. It's my nickname for them and obvious "tongue in cheek" and a response to the "Evil EMpire" tag voiced by Boston's owner. I have never and will never attack a Boston fan on a personal level and I have no problem giving unbiased posts that give credit to the talent Boston has or the way in which they run their organization.

I think I did state quite obviously that I was a fan of Pedroia and congrats to both him and Boston...jeez.

Even RSD understands I'm joking. Now if I make a stupid RED SOX SUCK AND THEY'LL FINISH IN LAST PLACE comment or a "I hope Pedroia tears an ACL (like the one posted by some other guy)" then sure, call me on it. But chilax and understand where the "Sucks" comment is coming from, it's playful animosity. Start sticking up for me when anti-Yank haters are making vile comments as well ok?

In addition to my previous comment:

What more could you ask of a second baseman?

cano bangs trannys

Being a "homer" means that you're blind to the truth about your team. They can do no wrong and their poop never stinks.

I will be the 1st to call, what I feel might be a bad move, what it is. If Cashman or whoever makes a bad play then it is what it is.

What I won't do is say that the Sucks are horrible and that their players are overrated if that isn't the case.

Example of a good post:

"The Yanks are making a mistake by going after Burnett because he looks like Carl Pavani 2.0".

Example of a typical anti-yankee post:

"The evil empire strikes again. CC's going to be a bust. Swisher was a horrible trade. Hughes is overrated and will NEVER be a star".

That's the difference between you and I. I read the post about the extension, said wrote "I like Pedroia. He's a good kid. Great signing for him and Boston".

Where's my alleged bias?

A guy makes a comment like "Pedroia is obviously a very good player and fits the Boston mold" and how do you react? By snapping at him. C'mon, give me a break dude.

kenan and kel wrote:

So you're an adult? Do you work? How do you have enough time to type those tirades anytime someone insults the yankees?

I think you should attend to your family, if you have one, which I doubt, rather than care who I speak rudely to.

Thanks old man river.

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yeah that's mature. I'm self-employed, earn a good living and don't have to worry about a boss breathing over my neck. Furthermore, my wife and kids are at work/school. Go eat a 'what-a-burger' (keenan and kel are charachters from a Nickelpdian show).

Furthermore, my apologies for the back and forth with this idiot and taking away from the post.

Congrats again to Pedroia and the Su...er..Boston.

this is a good deal for both the sox and pedroia.

first off, if you want to compare players, it would be pedroia to derek jeter. the stats for their first two years mirror each other, and they both helped their team win a championship. they both play up the middle (although SS is more important). they are both fan favorites. and it is a foregone conclusion that pedroia will be the next team captain when varitek leaves.

and i'm pretty sure that there is no no-trade involved. theo seems to stay clear from including this claus.

and the evan grant name, pretty funny. the interview he did on the Big Show was classic.

"Do you think the Giants could get the same sort of deal out of Lincecum?"

Lincecum is so confident in his mechanics that he sees no reason to take a discount.

"The Redsox need to do this with youkilis, lester, ellsbury and paplebon"

Youk has said he wants to go year to year. The others are likely a different case.

Longo was more of a steal but as much as it hurts to say, Sox did very well here.

I do not think its a fair comparison to judge longorias deal and pedroias. Longoria signed before he ever did anything at the major league level. Pedroia after he won the mvp. Longoria is obviously a better deal but under different circumstances. 17 plus million guaranteed on minor league numbers and scouting is nothing to scoff at.

i agree with utley over pedy but disagree that it is not close... tonight espn gave "runs generated" stat and he is very close to utley... definitely closer to utley than anyone else is to him...
that being said i like kinsler and thought the deal for cano was good and still think it could end up being good...i see him having a good 2009....

first of all i am a SOX FAN...
please read...
second... his batting ave over 400+ at bats and 3 years ol mlb play was well over 300 and his OBS was nearly 350...
3 solid seasons out of four is good reason that 2008 was the exception NOT the rule..
and again, thats coming from a sox fan

Hey upstate:

Don't get too upset. walkoffblast is towing the company line (boston fan). So that means anyone wearing pinstripes is garbage. Anyone having a good year is a fluke and anyone having an off year is garbage. Ironic isn't it? Pedroia based on 2 years is destined to be a great player (which I think he will be) but Cano who's had 3 good years and one very mediocre year will never get better. Sounds a little biased if you ask me. Maybe we'll just let the players play and see what they do, huh? Good luck to both..Pedroia and Cano.

The Yankees should pay Cano more. Maybe then his bat will wake up in time for the start of the season. Better yet, they can hire someone to kick him on the rear every time he starts acting lackadaisical on the field.

They're all rumors stemming from writers and columnists. None of that stuff is coming from the yankees front office. They wouldn't have sent their hitting coach Kevin Long down to the Dominican to work on his swing if they wanted to trade him.