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The latest from SI.com's Jon Heyman...
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I don't really see how the Yankees make much sense for Young unless they plan on dealing Cano.
Posted by: m26555 | January 13, 2009 at 01:26 PM
Let's see, you have a DH (or a SHOULD BE DH) in Dye, and you want top pitching prospects in return? I could see one good pitching prospect, but not much more.
Posted by: melonis rex | January 13, 2009 at 01:36 PM
Pettite could make sense for the Cubs as an alternative to the whole Peavy drama.
You'd have to think by moving from the AL East to the NL Central and swapping the Yank's atrocious defensive infield for the Cubs' average one would help him squeeze out one more productive year.
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 01:42 PM
Yeah, of course the Yankees' infield defense is "atrocious." Sigh.
Anyway, is there ever any trade scenario that Heyman doesn't include the Yankees in?
Posted by: baileywalk | January 13, 2009 at 01:47 PM
I could've gone with "abysmal" but I was trying to be nice. Though to be fair, Teixeira brings them up a bit and Jeter was better than usual last year.
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 01:57 PM
Damn Cub fans want everybody in their team.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | January 13, 2009 at 02:15 PM
I don't think the Yanks would be interested at all in Young. We already filled out quota of good hitting but range "challenged" SS with Jeter (God Bless Him). Also, I think Tex makes a big difference to our team defense. Cano doesn't have to cheat to his left to make up for Giambi's poor range and can now help Jeter on his right side.
As for Pettite, I really don't understand this dude. Why is he holding out? I don't see him getting $10 mil elsewhere. Maybe he's pondering retirement?
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 13, 2009 at 02:18 PM
Plus, why add another 32+ old player to the IF? We just made leaps in improving the IF with Tex, and Young, IMO, would be a step backwards for a team trying to get younger and more athletic.
Posted by: YanksFanSince78 | January 13, 2009 at 02:21 PM
"Damn Cub fans want everybody in their team.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | January 13, 2009 at 02:15 PM"
See:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27656
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 02:23 PM
"Yeah, of course the Yankees' infield defense is "atrocious." Sigh."
What's *sigh* worthy about that? The Yankees have, overall, one of the worst defenses in the AL. Adding Teixeira to first doesn't change that. Moving Cano, getting a third baseman and moving A-Rod to Short and Jeter to left could very well improve their defensive situation a bit, but that'll never happen.
Posted by: 0bsessions | January 13, 2009 at 02:29 PM
Dye could be put in LF and be adequate, and he got better as the summer went along in the field last year too. For most of the year he was a potential MVP candidate with the way he was hitting. Granted he won't get more than 1 top pitching prospect, but he's not going to be given away. He also has an option for the following year, so it wouldn't necessarily be a 1 year rental either, which has been brought up before. I would love the Sox to hold onto him and replace Thome with him next year, but if they can get good pitching, I'd trade him.
Posted by: rype123 | January 13, 2009 at 02:30 PM
"Sour Bob"
Didn't the Cubs also wanted RJ?
Posted by: DominicanYanks | January 13, 2009 at 02:36 PM
The Cubs are apparently exploring a variety of options to get another starter. They looked at Johnson, but were still knee deep in the Peavy sweepstakes, so he moved on. Not hard to imagine them getting in on Pettite for similar reasons.
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 02:47 PM
What's *sigh* worthy about that? The Yankees have, overall, one of the worst defenses in the AL. Adding Teixeira to first doesn't change that. Moving Cano, getting a third baseman and moving A-Rod to Short and Jeter to left could very well improve their defensive situation a bit, but that'll never happen.
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It's sigh-worthy because it's an overstatement. I'll take "weak" or "below average," but not "atrocious" or "one of the worst." Cano is better than he's given credit for, and Tex is among the best. Again, it's not a good defense, but let's be fair here. And anyone still harping about moving A-Rod back to short is out of touch with reality. Sorry, but that dude isn't a shortstop anymore. Thinking he can turn back the clock six years is not realistic.
But the Yankees' flaws are always exaggerated.
Posted by: baileywalk | January 13, 2009 at 02:57 PM
A-Rod is not moving to SS, nor is that a good idea. He hasn't played there in 5 years, so no one really knows how his performance would be.
Worst Def in the league had the least number of errors in 2008. How can they be the worst?
Posted by: Tex's New Best Friend | January 13, 2009 at 02:58 PM
Dye is one of the top producing outfielders for the past three years he shoulde command more than a prospect.
Posted by: rfro | January 13, 2009 at 03:28 PM
They don't have the wosrt defense in the AL. Their problem at SS and 2b is range, but Cano makes some pretty good plays. Melky is pretty good in CF and Nady will be decent in RF.
Posted by: DominicanYanks | January 13, 2009 at 03:36 PM
According to Fan Graph's defensive Metric of Choice, Ultimate Zone Rating, The Yankees had the worst defense in the AL in 2008.
http://www.fangraphs.com/teams.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=al&type=0&season=2008&month=0
Posted by: TradeYouk | January 13, 2009 at 04:23 PM
Even accounting for the improvement of adding in Teixeira and even assuming Jeter somehow maintains his league average-ish UZR from '08 instead of reverting back to his usual -somethingteen levels, using the UZR per 150 games numbers from last year gives the Yanks' 2009 infield a total UZR of 6.4, or, somewhat less than a third of what Jed Lowrie is worth all by himself.
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 05:30 PM
"Frankly, I like Cano though and you'll all be suprised this year when he bats 310 with 22 homers and 20 + sb. "
Nah, that wouldn't surprise me at all.
I'd be surprised if he committed less than errors and managed even average range for his position though.
Posted by: Sour Bob | January 13, 2009 at 05:35 PM
Michael young to the yankees makes no sense at all.
Posted by: patrick | January 13, 2009 at 06:50 PM
Why would pettitte want to go to the crappiest organazation(dodgers)!!!
Posted by: KingMayan! | January 13, 2009 at 07:24 PM
Dye for Adenhart+Bourjos
Posted by: ballerwhiteboy | January 13, 2009 at 08:18 PM
Arod has not played SS since 2003 and is not capable of it anymore. He has beefed up quite a bit and added a lot of body mass and would be old for a SS too. Not to mention besides some bone head plays sometimes Arod is a terrific defensive third basemen. Jeter isn't what he was 5 years ago but is not yet hurting the Yankees as a defensive liability. Hes on the decline but he is still capable of playing SS. Cano is a very good second basemen and Tex is a gold glover. Giambi leaving makes the Yankees infield so much better its not funny. Cano can now play more up the middle and as he is better moving to the hole than he is trying to make the back handed play. And Tex over Giambi is obvious. The Yankees don't have the best infield in baseball but it is still a very good one.
Jeter isn't moving from SS until he reaches 3000 hits. Arod is going nowhere and Cano is a younger, cheaper player with tremendous upside.
Posted by: yanks09 | January 13, 2009 at 11:16 PM
The Yankees finished in 5th place in all of baseball with a .986 fielding percentage (.003 from 1st place), making 83 errors which were tied for second least in all of baseball. They were in the middle of the pack in total chances, putouts and assists. Jeter has lost a lot of range up the middle, but he still makes the plays in the hole, goes back on pops better than most and still makes the charging in play as good as anyone.
Posted by: Sandman714 | January 14, 2009 at 10:42 AM
I didn't read all the comments, I watch every yankee game, and people make it sound like they are booting the ball around the infield which is simply not the case. Watching games I would say are defense is adequate for the season. Maybe not on one particular play, but for the length of a season there's a handful of missed opportunities there. So use whatever fielding stats you want but don't just quote them and say we're atrocious, cos last years defense and PITCHING was NOT the reason we lost...it was our offense....
Posted by: bigbankyanks.. | January 14, 2009 at 02:11 PM