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Brian Giles Likes Red Sox, Yankees, Angels

Tom Krasovic of the San Diego Union-Tribune talked to Padres outfielder Brian Giles today.  At $9MM, Giles is the Padres' second highest-paid player behind Jake Peavy.  He's a trade candidate this season, though he has full no-trade rights.  He carries the baggage of a lawsuit with his former girlfriend as well as an additional $2MM in salary if traded.  The Padres exercised his '09 option on November 7th last year, and I'm guessing they're already regretting it.

Krasovic learned that Giles' favored trade destinations would be the Red Sox, Yankees, and Angels.  The Yankees and Angels have surpluses in the outfield currently, though Giles would love to stay in California.  Giles vetoed a trade to Boston last year due to playing time issues and an expectation that Theo Epstein would've traded him after the season.


Comments

Giles...girlfriend?

I can see the Braves getting him at the deadline if the outfield is still not worked out and they are in contention.

Damnit why couldn't you have liked the Cubs..

There's a perfect fit if I'd ever seen one.

Too late now..

Shucks.

Brian Giles could make some sense for the Mets or Braves, but $11M (once you factor in the extra $2M) is a lot..

so your saying the padres r gunna b stuck with him, cause there is no way any of these 3 make a move for him

Good luck on getting an extension. You're entering your 38 age, which team is crazy enough to give you two years for your old ass?

He'll be a Red Sock once Drew hits the DL and Baldelli is hurting.

The Sox?! Seriously?! Then why did you veto the trade last year and be a part of a playoff team?!

"He'll be a Red Sock once Drew hits the DL and Baldelli is hurting."

Padres can keep Giles and his bloated 9M salary for 2009. Boston already has Wilkerson and Baldelli, both at less than 1.5M and can certainly find somebody cheaper and better both offensively and offensively than Giles since will not be working with the trade line restriction this season.

Nobody is going to agree to trade for Giles at $11M/year. Not when Bobby Abreu just signed for less than half of that, and a guy like Garret Anderson is still looking for jobs.

Girlfriend?

/Giles you ARE the father!

I can see Giles wanting to go to Milwaukee...to reacquaint himself with Jason Kendall...

Giles was an idiot to nix the deal to Boston last season if he would rather be in Boston now.


I don't know why any team would want Giles at $11m when they could have had Abreu at $5m or Dunn for $10m annually for 2 years. Guys like Griffey, Edmonds, & Garrett Anderson are still looking for work and can be had for less than half of Giles's salary. It just doesn't make sense.

"Giles was an idiot to nix the deal to Boston last season if he would rather be in Boston now."

Rumor was that he wanted a guarantee that Boston would exercise the 2009 option that San Diego did and Boston was NOT going to do it, so he nixed the deal. Boston at that time already had Crisp as a 4th OF and Giles would at that time been below him on the depth chart if they had wanted to even exercise the contract, so why pay a 5th OF 9M? It made -0- sense and Giles nixed the deal the rumors were going.

The only way he gets traded is if another team has a player with at least half of his salary, and the padres will take him on.

Come trade deadline teams will be beating down the Pads door to have a gritty OBP guy like Giles for a stretch run.

I think the Angels or the Giants could be possible destinations come July.

wow Johns, Wilkerson and Baldelli are both better offensively than Giles? I hope you are not serious...

"Wilkerson and Baldelli are both better offensively than Giles"

Baldelli potentially could be. Best case scenario, he puts up his 2006 numbers. More likely scenario is his numbers from last year will be similar, 50-100 games. As for Giles, he's 38. Add to that, the Pads will probably ask for something like Bard which the Sox should rightfully balk at or worse will be sneaky and ask for Pimentel. So it's probably in the Sox best interest to try out Carter and Bailey from the minors.

Erm...The Angels already have a guy that is an OBP machine in Reggie Willits as an extra outfielder. And its not like the Angels want or need Giles. Come July, they won't need him. They already have six outfielders that could be everyday outfielders on most teams: Hunter, Vladdy, Abreu, Matthews, Rivera, Willits (maybe more a 4th OF, but still very versatile).

As for the Giants, I can see them being a potential client, but inter-divisional trades like this RARELY happen, and considering the Padres would ask for MORE from a division rival, I doubt he will even be considered by the SF front office.

Face it Giles, you are a Padre for this year.

The Angels have NO OBP. They need OBP like they need oxygen.

Giles is a tool, plain and simple.

Actually Wilkerson isn't better than Giles. Giles actually has an impressive career line (.294/.404/.511/.915), but has lost a lot of power and speed in the outfield. He still maintains decent batting averages and will gives you plenty of walks (and even a pretty safe bet of an OPS over .800) but that $9 million figure is just...balky.

Wilkerson has never had a full season with an OPS over .900, has had an OBP over .400 zero times, and has slugged over .500 also zero times. He owns a career .247 batting average. Now, I know Giles is about 6 years older, but I'm pretty sure he'd still give you a better season than Wilkerson. But considering Giles would be a 4th outfielder, he isn't the best candidate.

Baldelli, when healthy, is much better than most outfielders in general. He has all 5 tools, but his durability makes him so fragile that he cannot completely live up to his full potential.

I actually can see the Red Sox, given the right circumstances (i.e. one of their starting outfielders going down, and their 4th outfielders being ineffective, and their prospects not ready) to acquire Giles midseason. But, that is requiring a lot to happen FIRST, before the Red Sox would even be able to consider him.

AlantaBred,

They got their OBP in Bobby Abreu now. And they have him at HALF the cost of what Giles would cost (plus prospects). Plus, who are you going to move to make room for Giles on that OF depth chart? As I said, they have enough outfielders to almost fill two outfields.

Best case scenario would have been the Rays passing on Burrell and trading some prospect for Giles. Also, really liked the Cubs reference at the top of the comments. You're right, that would have been too easy.

Studio179,

While I agree that Giles is a total tool (I am a Dodger fan, I loathe the man entirely), but he is a tool that owns a career .915 OPS. As I said though, he has lost power over the last few years (hasn't slugged .500+ since 2003 with Pittsburgh), and isn't as mobile. But he can still hit when needed, and boy that career .303/.436/.507 line w/RISP looks pretty good.

But I personally wouldn't want him. Too expensive, too old, and too full of himself. Plus as a Dodger fan I've grown to love to hate him. He's like the Bonds of the Padres.

Come on now, people. You guys are being a tad harsh on Giles. I'm a Padres fan and I don't particularly like him, but to say he is a poor player is just not true.

Overpaid? Absolutely. I loathed that 3 year deal the minute SD gave it to him. That's a lot of money for just walks. Yet I've always felt Giles could be more productive with some protection in the lineup.

Is he worth 11 million? No. But is Zito worth his contract? There are a lot of bad deals out there, and to say that no team will be ready to overpay if they feel Giles can be the missing piece in their lineup (like the Cubs for example) is a little premature.

Objectively, you can do a lot worse at RF.

Did I suggest the Angels acquire Giles? I just said in general they need OBP.

As for Giles, he's 38. Add to that, the Pads will probably ask for something like Bard which the Sox should rightfully balk at or worse will be sneaky and ask for Pimentel.

The pads would be lucky
to get someone to take him
at 11m for free.

forget that! Towers will want 5 players in the deal and the new team to take over the full salary! lol Towers is a joke!

I wouldn't mind seeing Giles in a Sox uniform. He may not have as much power as he used to, but he still has great patience.

The OF is pretty good for now though.

Giles for Lugo?

The Sox eat some of Lugo's salary and then sign one of the free agent IF (OCab, Nomar?). Granted, there's not much room for Giles, but I'd love to send Julio out of town. Not sure SD would have any interest in Lugo though.

Can Giles play any 1B? He'd be an upgrade off the bench over a guy like Kotsay or Wilkerson.

And yes, I know this will never happen.

" Not sure SD would have any interest in Lugo though. "


I think BOS is stuck with Lugo for the remainder of his contract unless he completely turns it around this year.

"Giles for Lugo?"

Ah, what a dream. Would be nice. Remember, SD is dumping salary. Unless Boston eats whole the contract, I don't see it happening, unless of course Lugo does some weird deal reconstructing like Andruw did.

"wow Johns, Wilkerson and Baldelli are both better offensively than Giles? I hope you are not serious..."

Never said he was in my post above.. I stated they were (and Wilky is not anymore IMO BTW) find someone better than Giles better offensively. Quote tags, don't write in what you want others to have posted.

Giles for Lugo, that would sort of make sense, but then you leave no backup infielder and have Kotsay, Baldelli and Wilkerson for outfielders.

Man, people here are underrating Giles.

He'll never be the power threat he was in Pittsburgh, but he's still got some pop that gets watered down by playing in Petco.

He's still a plus defensively and his patience is exceptional.

People here are treating this guy like a has-been, when he's still a quality everyday player.

Oh, and you have to love all the people bashing Towers since the Peavy trade talks died(I'm guessing bitter Braves or Cubs fans). The guy is consistently listed as one of the top GM's in baseball, but those posters know better.

I guess shooting down a bad trade proposal or trying to get the most out of a trade makes you a bad GM these days. I don't see it.

I do see the quality bullpens Towers usually assembles on the cheap (2008 was a bad year, but he has a great track record) or the great trades he makes (Mirabelli for Bard and Meredith, Eaton and Otsuka for Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez,...). But he's a bad GM. Whatever.

"If the Padres trade Giles, I think my cubbies will end up getting Peavy right after. I just hope Jim's pAckage is good enough. Well I saw his package last night and it was amazing"

On the one hand, this is mildly amusing to me. Nice play on words. Easy, yet effective. I like it.

On the other, given that it's kind of a direct shot at Tim, I can't support it. Tim seems like a good guy. Change the screen name...

Kotsay was pretty solid at 1B during the playoffs. If he played that well at that time of year, there's no reason to believe that he couldn't do that here and there during the regular season when the pressure is off.

No TY to Giles on the Yankees. Just what we need, another steroid guy. Why not just pick up Mike Piazza while we're at it.

The real question should be what team likes Giles at 11 mil. and the personal baggage at age 38? Answer, no one unless it's a dump or bad contract swap. Towers has no leverage here.

I can't see the Padres moving, unless it's for a bag of baseballs and a pretzel.

I can't see the Padres moving Giles, unless it's for a bag of baseballs and a pretzel.*

11m? I read on Cot's that his contract is 9M. Not a major difference, but a difference nonetheless.

If we (Red Sox) are looking at a possible replacement for OF/1B to replace Kotsay due to surgery, ect.....why not grab Jim Edmonds? He has a veteran prescence, is a better hitter than Giles and has more 1B experience than Giles. Sign him to an incentivce contract, build up his defense during spring training and if he fails, trade him or dump him.

By better hitter, I meant for power....they actually have pretty close career #'sand if there are any issues with Papi, he could step in @ DH from the left side

I may be wrong but have always felt that Marcus Giles was on 'roids and when he stopped using them, his body thinned along with his batting average. I have wondered about Brian, but know less about his "pattern".

"11m? I read on Cot's that his contract is 9M. Not a major difference, but a difference nonetheless."

Giles has a clause in his contract that says he gets an additional $2M if he gets traded.

So he'll make the $9M if he plays in San Diego, but if he gets traded then he gets the $2M bonus, which obviously comes out to $11M.

The Padres would probably have to eat some of the contract if they wanted to get a decent prospect in return, but there's little doubt in my mind that they could find a suitor if Giles wants to leave. He's a far better player than people here are making him out to be.

Giles had his chance to come to Boston and he turned it down. Screw him.

"The Angels already have a guy that is an OBP machine in Reggie Willits as an extra outfielder."

Are you talking about the same Willits who hit .194/.321 with 0 HR last season?

Huge difference from Giles who hit .306/.398 with 12 hr last season.

Willits would not keep them from trading for Giles if they felt they needed his bat.

But Giles would probably not allow the trade unless they guaranteed him a starting position.

Giles is not going to agree to a trade unless he gets to start.

If it is not to a team he wants then he will probably ask for an extension as well.

He has two young daughters in school so he is looking for stability and a starting job.

That is commendable.

As for his value:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=990&position=OF#value
Fangraphs has it at $20.6 million in 2008 so the $9 million it cost the Padres was a bargain and so would the portion of the $11 million it would cost a team to trade for him.

I don't want Giles because Iwant to look at Holliday out of Coors.

I don't think the Padres are regretting the decision to exercise at all. There was a $3 million buyout on the deal, so it effectively cost the Padres $6 million for a one year deal. Giles is probably a better player than Abreu and Dunn, so, yeah, $6 million for him seems like a no-brainer.

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