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Jon Heyman of SI.com says the Braves gave off the impression that Tom Glavine was merely a "famous, low-priced insurance policy" when they released him two days ago. He has more on the Braves and the rest of the majors; let's take a look:
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I honestly dont think that the Braves NEED to acquire DeRosa.
By getting McLouth they now have a solid OF offensively. Garrett Anderson started out slow but is starting to get better at the plate and the platoon in LF is now VERY solid.
The only auto out they have in their lineup now is Frenchy. I think they now look at Frenchy how they looked at Schafer in that his bat can be lack luster as long as he keeps contributing in the field and his arm saves us some runs.
If Frenchy gets better at the plate then thats good but if not its not as bad as it was at the beginning of the year and if you think about it almost every team has a kind of automatic out in their lineup except teams that can afford to do that.
Posted by: drumzalicious | June 05, 2009 at 03:02 PM
Vazquez for Dunn?
Posted by: RollTide1930 | June 05, 2009 at 03:04 PM
"John Smoltz told Heyman that he once turned down $53MM from the Yankees to sign with the Braves for $30MM. "
For anyone who dislikes the Yankees, this puts a smile on your face.
Posted by: thenerbster | June 05, 2009 at 03:06 PM
RollTide1930, nice idea.
KJ
Escobar
Chipper
Dunn
McCann
McLouth
Kotchman
Francoeur
Yes please?
Posted by: bravesfansc | June 05, 2009 at 03:08 PM
"Vazquez for Dunn?"
Nationals better be adding prospects with Dunn, because, right now, Vazquez is worth more than Dunn. Why would Braves get rid of one of their best pitchers, for Dunn?
Posted by: BravesRed | June 05, 2009 at 03:09 PM
First off, isn't Heyman in love with the Yankees franchise?
Second, if that's the case, where were they this past offseason to pick Smoltz up when he was cheap?
Posted by: turnthe2 | June 05, 2009 at 03:11 PM
BravesRed, i think they're pretty even right now. Dunn has 16 HRS, about a .400 obp and a higher average than usual, a .261. Vazquez has been pitching very good, not great. But like you said, they would want prospects, not a veteran pitcher.
Posted by: bravesfansc | June 05, 2009 at 03:13 PM
Their contracts are similar and we still need one more power bat in the outfield to compete we have a lot of extra pitching thats why we should deal Vazquez for Dunn. We finally would have an outfield with some power to compete in the east.
Posted by: RollTide1930 | June 05, 2009 at 03:14 PM
Turned down the Yankees for $23 million less? John Smoltz is now officially my favorite player. That's one of the most satisfying things I have heard in a long time.
Posted by: tyler | June 05, 2009 at 03:19 PM
I would like to see Justin Upton in the HR derby at some point. Some of the bombs he has hit this year (like @MIL) have been ridiculous. Incredible bat speed
Posted by: wayne gomes | June 05, 2009 at 03:21 PM
If I recall correctly Greg Maddux also turned down a more lucrative Yankees offer when he signed with Atlanta.
Posted by: l0stnumber | June 05, 2009 at 03:22 PM
If Vazquez is going anywhere, Braves want at least a top-tier prospect in return. Braves have no need to trade Vazquez, so the Braves are going to want a King's Ransom for him.
Posted by: BravesRed | June 05, 2009 at 03:22 PM
No where in Heyman's post does it say that the Braves cannot add anymore payroll.
Posted by: njbraves | June 05, 2009 at 03:28 PM
Vasquez for Dunn should only be done if Hanson comes up and is adjusting. i expect him to have a rough couple of outings at first like Medlen and then settle down. If he settles and is solid then maybe deal Javy.
Also McLouth would most likely lead off if Dunn is in the lineup.
McLouth CF
Kotchman 1B
Chipper 3B
Dunn LF
McCann C
Escobar SS
Johnson 2B
Frenchy RF
I kept Frenchy because we will be better suited with his defense and arm in RF and if the rest of the team is THAT good at the plate we wont need his bat as much. it would be nice but not as important.
Also i put Kotchman in the #2 hole. The guy is a perfect fit for that spot with his line drive/gap hitting does great at moving runners over. also takes a bit of pitches.
Posted by: drumzalicious | June 05, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Oh no, Smoltz made 30 million instead of 53 million. Cry me a river over that one.
Posted by: caminsc | June 05, 2009 at 03:34 PM
"No where in Heyman's post does it say that the Braves cannot add anymore payroll."
Actually, it does. It's the 12th paragraph from the top.
Posted by: BravesRed | June 05, 2009 at 03:36 PM
By the time Dunns contract runs up Jason Heyward will be ready its a perfect fit.
Posted by: RollTide1930 | June 05, 2009 at 03:39 PM
Stop with the Dunn madness now.
No team that has Frank Wren as GM will ever have Adam Dunn on it's roster under any circumstances.
Wren considers Dunn a flawed DH. Nothing more.
Same reason that he passed on Burrell also.
Posted by: ATLBR13 | June 05, 2009 at 03:39 PM
Wayne gomes-
You're exactly right. Upton should actually be in the HR derby this year. He has a beautiful swing. He hit a HR up to the top of the Friday's Front Row in left field at Chase. Anybody who is familiar with Chase knows how ridiculously far it is to the top of that restaurant. I'm a HUGE Justin Upton fan, as I've said before on this site.
Posted by: jdub | June 05, 2009 at 03:43 PM
So I'm assuming that rules out the possibility of the Braves attempting to acquire Ryan Spilborghs of the Rockies.
Oh well.
Posted by: Bravesfan89 | June 05, 2009 at 03:43 PM
Will some one please give Smoltz a tissue so he can complain about the braves some more after wiping his million dollar tears away. Hey John The Braves and there fans were very good to you, even waiting years at a time while your fragile body healed and still paying you very good money. You took the money from Boston, not the Yankees so shut your crying up because we as Braves fans are quite tired of it already.
Posted by: Adam Adcock | June 05, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Will some one please give Smoltz a tissue so he can complain about the braves some more after wiping his million dollar tears away. Hey John The Braves and there fans were very good to you, even waiting years at a time while your fragile body healed and still paying you very good money. You took the money from Boston, not the Yankees so shut your crying up because we as Braves fans are quite tired of it already.
Posted by: Adam Adcock | June 05, 2009 at 04:00 PM
why would the nats want vasquez for dunn? if they trade dunn they'll want young talent back.
Posted by: maristmetsfan | June 05, 2009 at 04:03 PM
What the braves really need is a Lead Off man. If they are going to bat McLouth 3rd then they need someone to lead off. We need someone thats a SB threat and we need him now!! lol
Posted by: drumzalicious | June 05, 2009 at 04:04 PM
I still think the most reasonable target out there is Randy Winn.
Barves had serious interest in him last season.Winn was drafted by the Marlins originally when you guessed it Wren was there.
He's on the final year of his contract.
Like someone above mentioned Bobby has shown that McLouth is going to hit in the middle of the order.
Take a look at this.
1.Winn-RF
2.Esco-SS
3.McLouth-CF
4.Chipper-3B
5.BMac-C
6.Anderson/Diaz-LF
7.Kotchman-1B
8.KJ-2B
9.Pitcher.
Posted by: ATLBR13 | June 05, 2009 at 04:13 PM
Also keep in mind that Winn flies under the radar so to speak.
For 2007-2008 he had a 108XBH
and was 40-45 in Stolen bases.
Switch hitter that can play any of the outfield spots.
Posted by: ATLBR13 | June 05, 2009 at 04:15 PM
I agree that Randy Winn is a good idea. I also think that Chone Figgins would be worth looking into. He is younger, cheaper, and more of a steal threat than Winn. Figgins wont hit as many home runs as Winn, but he can play any position on the field. Acquiring Figgins will also allow the Braves to trade Johnson or Prado when Infante comes back. The only downside of Figgins is he is a free agent at the end of the season I believe.
Posted by: bravesfan23 | June 05, 2009 at 04:21 PM
John Smoltz told Heyman that he once turned down $53MM from the Yankees to sign with the Braves for $30MM.
Am i supposed to feel sorry for you John? and what you fail to mention is you got paid rougly half a million for every inning pitched last year. I love you John but you're a member of the Red Sox now, you don't need to pit yourself against the atl management
Posted by: bravesfan22193 | June 05, 2009 at 05:55 PM
the two guys the Braves should be in on right now for RF are Josh Willingham and Cody Ross. Everybody wants a leadoff man who can steal but the fact of the matter is cox rarely steals anyways so it would be a waste. A 3-6 in the order of McLouth, Chipper, McCann, and Ross/Willingham gives us a solid lineup- just need to clear some salary (francouer)
Posted by: bravesfan22193 | June 05, 2009 at 05:58 PM
Don't know if there's any validity to this (probably isn't because it's just a commenter relaying information that a radio show host might have said):
Nashville radio says Francouer and a minor leaguer to Boston, Brad Penny to Colorado, and B. Hawpe to ATL…
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/06/05/mclouth-chipper-and-mac-in-3-4-5-spots/comment-page-4/#comment-125678
Posted by: PWHjort | June 05, 2009 at 06:02 PM
"but most contenders see him as a third baseman and some don't like his bat anymore."
Huh? The line from the article actually goes like this:
"But some contending teams see him only as a third baseman, or a bat."
Then it went on to say ONE scout says he is pulling off the ball but is still hitting .350.
Some of the new writers here at MLBTR really need to re-read some of the articles before they most their thoughts on the site.
Posted by: Kenny Dewitt | June 05, 2009 at 06:05 PM
That trade makes no sense. Why wouldn't the Red Socks just trade Penny for Hawpe instead of getting Frenchy and a minor leaguer? I would like to have Hawpe, but we would have WAY too many left handed hitters
Posted by: bravesfan23 | June 05, 2009 at 06:21 PM
Yeah, Bravesfan23. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Or any at all, actually.
Posted by: PWHjort | June 05, 2009 at 06:28 PM
But the Braves have hit LHP better than RHP this year.
Posted by: PWHjort | June 05, 2009 at 06:30 PM
Doesn't make sense for the Rockies either, they have plenty of SP depth. The logjam in their OF can be solved by sending Dexter Fowler back to AAA.
Posted by: LD303 | June 05, 2009 at 06:31 PM
LOL why Nashville Radio??
Posted by: BraveNewWorld | June 05, 2009 at 06:52 PM
I could see the trade between Boston Atlanta and Colorado.
Because of the Green Monster Francoeur is Right handed and pulls a good bit.
Posted by: Cobra09 | June 05, 2009 at 07:18 PM
The dude that made the comment was from Nashville I assume.
Posted by: PWHjort | June 05, 2009 at 07:21 PM
If Braves fans are ready to get rid of Vazquez now, just wait until the post season. hahaha, you guys haven't seen anything yet.
Posted by: ChiSoxKilla23 | June 05, 2009 at 08:57 PM
Vazquez has been tearing it up. It was Chicago's crappy defense, Ozzie Guillen's terrible management style, and that band box of a park that made him look bad.
Posted by: PWHjort | June 05, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Colorado should be kicking themselves over not making the Helton-Lowell swap before 07. They could have let Lowell go after the season and added payroll but they got greedy by wanting Delcarmen as well. Thank god the sox turned away from this deal as they would be stuck with the Rockies albatross!
Posted by: RED SOX DYNASTY! | June 07, 2009 at 08:26 AM