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By Ben Nicholson-Smith [June 19, 2009 at 12:33pm CST]
Jon Heyman of SI.com says those closest to the Pedro Martinez situation expect him to sign soon. Heyman has many more rumors; here they are:
- One GM thinks the Nationals are demanding too much in return for their players. He says they want "a dollar and a quarter for a dollar."
- As Heyman points out, interim GM Mike Rizzo has an especially tough role, since his job isn't secure.
- Heyman says the Nats will make an announcement on a full-time GM this season. Rizzo has a good shot at the position.
- Rival GMs say Omar Minaya is now looking to boost the Mets' offense.
- Adding a player who can handle first base and the outfield would allow the Mets to make room for Carlos Delgado when he returns later in the season. Mark DeRosa fits the bill, but the Indians are apparently asking for a lot in a potential deal.
- The Rangers aren't likely to trade for Brad Penny, though they have considered him.
- Huston Street's one of the relievers who appeals to the Rangers.
- Texas can't add payroll, but can trade prospects.
- Chad Qualls and Heath Bell would both command big returns in a trade.
- Most contenders believe they need to add relievers, but the Red Sox are willing to trade one away.
- Heyman says releasing Dontrelle Willis would be a drastic move.
- The Reds, Braves and possibly the Cardinals are looking for right-handed hitting corner outfielders.
christ - give him the job stan
Posted by: theredskin | June 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM
cards better end up with derosa..
Posted by: cgreif8 | June 19, 2009 at 12:42 PM
"Heyman says releasing Dontrelle Willis would be a drastic move."
I wonder if Heyman has seen Willis pitch. And this is coming from a Tiger fan. Willis is toast
Posted by: allstarlineup | June 19, 2009 at 12:51 PM
It is a crime that the Mets have not acquired DeRosa yet. I wonder if the Indians would accept Eddie Kunz and Nick Evans for him?
Posted by: metfan57 | June 19, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Interesting how teams like the Rays and Rangers expect to continually compete and win with injuries, or shortages like the Rays have with injuries this year and the Rangers with holes in the rotation without spending a dime to fix obvious problems, even though it may stop them both from advancing to the playoffs.
Last year the Rays won with everything going perfect and this year injuries have hit them hard and they refuse to spend anything to fix shortages and the Rangers appear to spend anything to fix starter problems now. What will happen when the Angels rotation fully recovers? Wow, all those years of futility from Texas and the lack of a few dollars to upgrade? It's incredible.
Posted by: johns | June 19, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Shorter opposing GMs: "the Nationals won't give accept our offer of our 14th-ranked Short-A prospect for Nick Johnson." Perhaps Rizzo thinks that, given Johnson's performance so far, the pick he would get as compensation is worth more than what he is being offered.
Posted by: Roberto Rivera | June 19, 2009 at 01:03 PM
Who's worse - Heyman or Rosenthal?
Posted by: www.homehalfway.net | June 19, 2009 at 01:13 PM
Rosenthal, have you seen him and his annoying smugness and egoist nature on MLB Network recently? Rosenthal is such a Smug, huge ego s.o.b
Posted by: phoenix88 | June 19, 2009 at 01:45 PM
I say Heyman, Rosenthal has actually predicted some trades accuratly. Neither are as good as advertised though.
Posted by: bravoboy10 | June 19, 2009 at 01:50 PM
It is a crime that the Mets have not acquired DeRosa yet. I wonder if the Indians would accept Eddie Kunz and Nick Evans for him?
The answer is no from what I have heard they are playing several team off each other right now as many as 6 teams involved the last they they need is a 1st baseman DH type guy.For the mets I from what I have heard sounds like one of the following would have to be the center piece to get DeRosa Holt / Mejia or Parnell
Latest rumor Cards offered Motte / Boggs and a low A prospect and that was turned down also.
Posted by: baseballnuts | June 19, 2009 at 02:00 PM
Well the Rangers aren't trading their top 2 offensive prospcets in Borbon and Smoak, and all their pitching prospects are AA or lower, with Martin Perez the only one a for sure ace (should be untouchable). No other appealing position players (Max Ramirez fits with the trade a catcher scenarios).
So that's convenient to throw out the "trade prospects" line but in reality could they even get a lower tier guy like Penny by giving up a crap shoot AA or A ball guy ? Would have to include a catcher most likely and go after a bigger fish.
Posted by: kinsler5 | June 19, 2009 at 02:17 PM
" It is a crime that the Mets have not acquired DeRosa yet. I wonder if the Indians would accept Eddie Kunz and Nick Evans for him? "
the Indians would be idiots to make this deal. DeRosa is worth more than those guys.
Posted by: Baseball Nut | June 19, 2009 at 02:21 PM
The Brewers get Penny, Saito, and Lugo plus cash to pay some of Lugo's contract for JJ Hardy or A Escobar This Trade big time helps the brewers they get 4th starter who was clocked at 98 last game a set up guy and back up closer who also as an option for next season as well. Lugo can still hit and gives them a ss option until Escobar is ready and I think he already is. Plus they will get the sox to pay most his salary. The sox still have Smoltz, Clay Buch,and Bowden to take Penny' spot and they also have F. Caberera who was PR closer in the wbc and is lights out in AAA and has 4 yrs exp.in the majors. JJ Hardy gives them a solid ss and they can use Lowrie as a super utility for this season
Posted by: Darby Crash | June 19, 2009 at 02:22 PM
Egh. Mark DeRosa. The problem with Derosa is he plays many positions, but plays very few of them well. His bat doesn't play as well at first or in left field, and there is really nowhere else to use him on the Mets. I would rather just stick with Murphy, who will eventually hit.
The idea of trading Mejia or Holt for DeRosa is laughable though. This guy baseballnuts makes up his dream scenarios, posts them on MLBTR, then acts as if he has real sources he is getting this from.
Besides, the Mets need an arm. Their bullpen is way overrated, outside K-Rod there is nobody really reliable, and their pen currently includes all 3 of Redding, Livan, and Nieve. Sounds like trouble to me.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 19, 2009 at 02:45 PM
"Last year the Rays won with everything going perfect and this year injuries have hit them hard and they refuse to spend anything to fix shortages and the Rangers appear to spend anything to fix starter problems now. What will happen when the Angels rotation fully recovers? Wow, all those years of futility from Texas and the lack of a few dollars to upgrade? It's incredible."
I see it much more like these teams have built for a long time to get to where they are, and they don't see one playoff run as good enough reason to dump off their high end prospects just to make on run at a championship. People get so focused on making the playoffs each individual year, when in reality, for rebuilding teams or smaller market teams there are much more important things then making the playoffs one random year. I am sure they would rather sustain success then make one run at a championship.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 19, 2009 at 02:48 PM
Neftali Feliz is at Triple A Oklahoma so is Tommy Hunter, Moscoso, Poveda was just promoted to triple A. Kinsler5 you need to get your facts straight...we got Esteban German and Mitch Moreland tearing it up in the minors right now.
Posted by: Rangerfan | June 19, 2009 at 03:12 PM
Would the Braves look at Jack Cust or Russel Branyan if they became available? Both would be cheap and and provide decent power?
Posted by: bravoboy10 | June 19, 2009 at 03:13 PM
"The Brewers get Penny, Saito, and Lugo plus cash to pay some of Lugo's contract for JJ Hardy or A Escobar This Trade big time helps the brewers they get 4th starter who was clocked at 98 last game a set up guy and back up closer who also as an option for next season as well. Lugo can still hit and gives them a ss option until Escobar is ready and I think he already is. Plus they will get the sox to pay most his salary. The sox still have Smoltz, Clay Buch,and Bowden to take Penny' spot and they also have F. Caberera who was PR closer in the wbc and is lights out in AAA and has 4 yrs exp.in the majors. JJ Hardy gives them a solid ss and they can use Lowrie as a super utility for this season"
There is no way that this trade would work on the Brewers side. They give up a great young SS still under contract for a joke of a SS, pitcher who looks good now after being a joke (and has a history of fading after the all-star break), and a 39(?) year old pitcher coming off arm problems. This is the ultimate sell high for the Sox and sell low for the Brewers. The fact that you made Escobar even a part is a joke because the is one of (if not the) best ss prospects in baseball. No way they give up 6 years of him for 1/2 a year of that questionable bunch you proposed.
Posted by: Boomer | June 19, 2009 at 03:17 PM
Where would they stick Cust?
Kotchman seems stable at 1st and he's not really a guy I would want to see in the OF.
Posted by: Boomer | June 19, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Boomer, I wouldn't want to see him in the OF either but is he any worse than Anderson? At least maybe he'd be a guy who would hussle and give a good effort out there and with McClouth and possibly Schaffer out there he can shade closer to the line and not hurt us to much.
Posted by: bravoboy10 | June 19, 2009 at 03:49 PM
"Neftali Feliz is at Triple A Oklahoma so is Tommy Hunter, Moscoso, Poveda was just promoted to triple A. Kinsler5 you need to get your facts straight...we got Esteban German and Mitch Moreland tearing it up in the minors right now."
I'm not so sure how knowledgable you are of the Rangers farm system. All of their "legit" pitching prospects are in AA or lower like Kinsler5 with the exception of Feliz...like Kiker, Beaven, Main, Font, Boscan, and Perez!! Mitch Moreland is having a great year so far but is still not considered one of the top position prospects in the system. But Esteban German?? really?...he is a 31 year old scrub in AAA having a decent year.
Posted by: JH32 | June 19, 2009 at 03:50 PM
"One GM thinks the Nationals are demanding too much in return for their players. He says they want "a dollar and a quarter for a dollar.""
So they should just be giving away their players for worse players? Logically, doesn't a team make a trade to make themselves a better team? The problem is that now that Jim Bowden, who notoriously used to ask for the moon in trades, is gone, other GMs probably expect the Nats to make any trade thrown at them.
Posted by: DC Nats Fan | June 19, 2009 at 04:10 PM
hey If the brewers want to make playoffs they need to upgrade the pitching staff they have a few SS, these kind of need trades happen every year. Say what you want about Penny and Saito but alot of teams are looking at them cause there aint s h i t for pitching out there. Lugo sucks i agree but he can hit and steal a base .If the sox pay is salary then he has value. Hardy is good not great, so the sox add in a mid level prospect so the brewer fans dont cry, trust me this is a go for it this season trade,and if the brewers do the deal and make it to the world series then who cares Escabar will replace him anyway soon enough
Posted by: Darby Crash | June 19, 2009 at 05:19 PM
hey also boomer escobar is a sick prospect, but that doesnt mean he'll be a good mlb player. Look at Andy Marte everyone said awesome 3b he'll hit for power. well he's a joke now so you never know
Posted by: Darby Crash | June 19, 2009 at 05:27 PM
If the Brewers did want to move Hardy they could get a much better return that that group you suggested. Good fielding 25+HR SS are very rare, and that's what Hardy's show he can be despite his slow start. Also he has been very unlucky with a extremely low BABIP. There is no way Escobar is goe for that because he is in the untouchable category. It seems ever since Hanley was traded, stud prospects have much, much more value.
Posted by: Boomer | June 19, 2009 at 05:58 PM
thats what Im telling you Bommer there is'nt a better return avail. Sometimes it is what it is.
Posted by: Darby Crash | June 19, 2009 at 09:24 PM
How in the world do you know what is and isn't available? Why would the Brewers trade JJ Hardy anyway? They are trying to compete, why trade away one of their pivotal guys? Julio Lugo has negative trade value. He makes any package worse by being part of it. Brad Penny isn't good. The Brewers can (and should) sign Pedro Martinez, or they could even go get a Paul Byrd without giving up a very good shortstop.
Posted by: nrmax88 | June 19, 2009 at 09:37 PM
Derosa wont be traded...... although he is a free agent at the end of the year.
Posted by: JPWBRAVESFAN | June 24, 2009 at 12:18 AM