Should The Pads Listen To Offers For Gonzalez?

They have him under control CHEAPLY for another 2.5 years, no chance they trade him for another year and a half, 2 years maybe

As a Giants fan, I would give a pretty large package for Gonzalez.

Jonathan Sanchez, Tim Alderson, Nick Noonan, and their choice of any other prospect in our entire farm system not in the big 4.

Maybe next season, which still sucks for Padres fans (what's left of them).

"As a Giants fan, I would give a pretty large package for Gonzalez.

Jonathan Sanchez, Tim Alderson, Nick Noonan, and their choice of any other prospect in our entire farm system not in the big 4. "

Cue first ridiculous offer.

No Bumgarner or Posey, no deal.

The Padres should, yes, and they shouldn't even be adverse to trading him within the division (Giants) if need be.

There's an important distinction to make when stating that he could land a Teixeira-esque haul... we'd be talking about what the Rangers stole from the Braves (Feliz, Andrus, Saltalamacchia, Harrison).

Gonzalez has three years on his deal, while the Braves only got 1.5 of Teixeira.

The Padres won't compete throughout the duration of Adrian's contract. Holding onto him just to save face isn't worth what they could get in return. If they want to compete, they need to build for the future, and Gonzo is at his peak value.

I'd also say Peavy outsmarted them with that there no-trade clause as KT agreed to trade him twice but Peavy blocked it.

Ben, another point, the Padres have an MLB-ready stud 1B prospect in Kyle Blanks. He's currently playing left but 1B is his natural position and he's probably their future there.

As a Giants fan, I would give a pretty large package for Gonzalez.

Jonathan Sanchez, Tim Alderson, Nick Noonan, and their choice of any other prospect in our entire farm system not in the big 4.

Posted by: SFG55 | July 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

That is not exactly a "Mark Teixeira-esque haul". At the time of the Tex trade, Salty, Andrus, and Feliz were three of the Braves their top 6-7 prospects. That isn't even including the starting pitcher, Matt Harrison that they got or the other minor league reliever. If the Giants want Gonzalez they most certainly will need to trade one or more of their "big four" plus other prospects.

From a Braves' perspective I am guessing that the Pads would insist that Heyward and Freeman (or Hanson and Freeman) be included plus other prospects in any trade for Gonzalez. And they would be right to expect that much for him. But, that isn't happening so Braves fans need not discuss it.

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Tim Alderson is ranked as the 26th best prospect in all of baseball and one of the 10 best pitchers.

It's not like I said none of the big four. Those four players are the best top four of any team in the majors hands down.

You mean Peavy screwed the Padres? Because KT and FW agreed on a deal that Peavy blocked.

How much money is the AL paying the Padres to keep losing All Star games?

If the Padres can get a package back that sets them up for success in 3/4 years, I think they should do it. They aren't going anywhere with the team they have and it's going to be 3/4/5 years before they can realistically compete. They could get a pretty ridiculous package for him, as a power hitting bat is in high demand these days. If they could get a package that improves 3 or 4 positions and adds a couple high-end prospects, they have to consider it.

If the Red Sox offered up: Buchholz, Bowden, Kalish and Navarro (all within top 11 Sox prospects) plus another low-level prospect with big upside, would the Pads consider it? Considering the team thinks Blanks is ready for the bigs, this could add a top of the rotation starter (Buchholz), a #3/4 type in Bowden, a corner OF bat in Kalish and a SS in Navarro, plus whatever low level prospect they agree upon.

I don't like the idea of emptying the farm system for any one player, but given the glaring need for a corner bat, I think the Sox would have to consider doing so.

"If the Red Sox offered up: Buchholz, Bowden, Kalish and Navarro (all within top 11 Sox prospects) plus another low-level prospect with big upside, would the Pads consider it? "

That's a fair deal for both sides IMO.

"If the Red Sox offered up: Buchholz, Bowden, Kalish and Navarro (all within top 11 Sox prospects) plus another low-level prospect with big upside, would the Pads consider it? "

That's a fair deal for both sides IMO.

regarding peavy, they should've shipped him to the braves when they had the chance.

back to the topic- i'll echo everyone else and suggest that they take the approach the jays are w/ halladay. let it be known that he can be had, but only if the return is too good to pass up. they won't be winning in the next 3 years anyway, right?

They don't need to worry about dealing him till 2011 which at that seasons end, unless he is dealt, Adrian takes a walk and really gets paid.

Unless his skills diminish, the Pads will still fetch as hefty a sum for him when he is traded in 2011 as they would now.

So, in the meantime he can continue to be the only watchable player and drawing card on a dreadful team.

riddle me this batman. what do the sox do with Lowell when hes back, hes owed some good money and has 2 years left i think

"Sanchez throws a NO NO against the anemic Padres offense and people think he has value wow!"

Throwing a no-hitter against ANY Major League team is impressive. I don't care who it is. This doesn't make Sanchez an elite prospect again, I agree, but it definitely enhanced his value. It's also definitely something that should be praised as a feat of excellence, especially when you consider that the only thing that stopped his Perfect Game was Uribe booting a routine ground ball.

The package SFG55 proposed, however, isn't close to enough.

Three years of Gonzalez means saying goodbye to Alderson and Bumgarner, for starters.

The Braves traded:

Jarrod Saltalamacchia (#1 for ATL, #36 in MLB)
Elvis Andrus (#2 for ATL, #65 in MLB)
Matt Harrison (#3 for ATL, #90 in MLB)
Neftali Feliz (Now #1 for Texas, #93 in MLB)
Beau Jones (#10 for ATL)

That was for 1.5 years of Teixeira.

You want Sanchez, Alderson, Noonan, and another B prospect for Gonzo?

C'mon now. You'd be lucky to get out of a trade for Gonzo with one of the Top 4 in your system still; keep in mind they'd be trading him within the division.

gonzales is in his prime now, and with the way the pads are going, they aren't competing for another 3-4 years. By then gonzales will be 30-31, still prime but you can get good young prospects now for him so they will be bursting onto the scene when gonzales is only one player and will already be 30+

I love AG's game and would love to see im in a Giants Uni, but Bumgarner's not going anywhere. Not for Adrian or anyone else. Anyone else including Posey would be fair game though.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3849879

Tim Alderson is currently the # 5 best right handed pitching prospect according to Keith Law, and he's behind Neftali Feliz, Tommy Hanson, Rick Porcello, and Trevor Cahill.

3 of which are already in the majors, meaning he's the second best right handed pitching prospect in baseball.

I agree with the poster who said the Padres lose nothing by listening. You never know what a GM will be willing to offer. The Padres have to be smarting over the missed opportunity with Peavy, so I suspect they'd be more attentive with offers made for Gonzales. I think we all know he'd be a more valuable piece playing for a lot of other teams.

They must trade him now while he's still nice about playing for a garbage team. In a year, he'll have demands. They should blow up that whole 3 guys of value they have. Get 5-7 MLB ready now players plus prospects for A-Gon, Bell and Peavy. Why keep any of those guys? Just to pretend you have a chance?

Its all a moot point because AG is'nt going anywhere. Not only is he a great player and the face of the franchise, he is also a great link to the Hispanic Fanbase of which the Padres need to appeal to and cultivate because of the local demographics.

HAHAHA ok theJonathan

No.

Lets see any other team in baseball even come close to that offer.

1. Posey, the top catcher in the minor leagues.

2. Alderson, currently 5-1 with an era under 3 at AA and still only 19. Top 5 righties in minor leagues.

3. Villalona, an 18 year old with the power upside of Miguel Cabrera, currently top 10 first basemen in minor leagues.

4. Henry Sosa, currently 6-0 with an era under 3 at AA. Power arm.

5. Nick Noonan, arguably best contact hitter in organization, comparable to Connor Gilaspie.

Yea right.

BUT...

I consider that if you take Posey out.

Who cares who is in front of him. Still does'nt change the fact I would'nt include Bumgarner in a AG or ANY deal.

Geez SFG55, I guess we should just pencil the Giants in for the World Series in 2012-2014..whats the point in them even playing the games??

Eastcoastbias, your post doesn't even make sense.

"So they'll just let him bounce for a couple draft picks?"

Did you read my earlier posts. Maybe they'll trade him. My point was that they don't have to. And they certainly don't have to now.

Perhaps they will decide to build around AG.

As far as my demographics comments. I did'nt say he should'nt be traded because he is Hispanic, I said he is a great marketing tool to that particular fanbase, which is undeniable.

He's also young and good.

The Padres should listen to everything.

A.G. is an absolute STEAL at his salary for the next three years.

This is the opportunity for the Padres to move their organizational talent forward by 1 or 2 years, in one trade.

Adrians a great player, but he's not great enough to implode your minor league system.

I am a Padres fan (unfortunately) and I am very much in favor of trading A-Gonz, as well as Peavy, Bell, Kouz and Chris Young.

I'm not sure what the Pads can get for Kouz but he would definitely benefit from a new ballpark. He plays adequate defense and has stretches where he can really hit the ball but I think Petco kills his confidence. Bell would be a monster setup guy for a contender with an established closer. Obviously Peavy and A-Gonz are the stars, but I think Chris Young could definitely be a good mid-rotation guy.

Trading all of these guys this season or this offseason will set up the team for the next few years...just as long as they find players who can play in big ass Petco Park.

SFG55, keep in mind that if Adrian is made available, there will be like 10-15 teams in on him. Even if you consider an offer including Posey + Bumgarner to be overpaying, that is almost certainly what the Giants' offer will have to start with in order to be competitive with what other teams offer.

Semi-serious suggestion: maybe there could be a mega blockbuster in which the Giants acquire Gonzo + Bell for Bumgarner, Alderson, Posey and some warm bodies? The Giants are built to win in the next 3 years when Lincecum, Cain, Gonzo, Bell will all be under cost-controlled contract. Is there any doubt that adding those 2 players would make the NLCS a virtual lock to be Giants/Dodgers?

And it would kick-start the Padres' rebuild in a major way with another elite prospect or two to come from a Peavy deal.

SFG55- Dude, how 'bout some objectivity? I know you love your Giants, but...jeez. San Fran can certainly make a case for the best top 4 in the game- as arbitrary as that number is- but it's hardly 'hands down' and it's entirely dependent upon promotions. Prior to Wieters' call-up, for instance, the Orioles had Wieters, Tillman, Matusz, and Arrieta as their top 4. Considering Wieters was THE top prospect in the game before his call-up and Tillman and Matusz are ranked second and third among ALL pitching prospects currently in the minors (BA), AND Arrieta is in the same 26-50 range as Alderson (the previous poster was correct in pointing out that BA listed the 26-50 guys alphabetically and not according to any ranking system), while Villalona is still just a projectability guy who has yet to put up numbers in keeping with the hype (though he is exceptionally young and may get there eventually, it's FAR from a sure thing)...I think the O's could make quite a case.

Ditto Texas, prior to the Holland/Andrus promotions- Holland, Andrus, Feliz, and Smoak?! Um, that's pretty darned good.

Presently, I think you've got a pretty strong case, though again, things change quickly, and there are other strong alternatives (Texas can still trot out Smoak, Feliz, Perez, and maybe Borbon?; Baltimore has Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta, and ???- Erbe/Hobgood/Snyder; Philly has Drabek, Taylor, Brown, and Carrasco/Knapp; Tampa boasts a solid quarted of Desmond Jennings, Wade Davis, Matt Moore, and Jeremy Hellickson...). Given the question marks surrounding Villalona, it's more a top 3 battle anyway, and anyway- no one is saying the Giants do NOT have the best top 4. Only that it's open for debate.

What's not open for debate is Adrian Gonzalez's value, which ranks at around stratospheric. To acquire him, someone will have to overpay and IF it's the Giants, it will take a substantial offer. Bumgarner isn't going anywhere. Posey, too, seems untouchable, which ultimately COULD prevent SF from acquiring the Padres' big 1B. IF Posey were included, alongside Alderson and, say, Noonan and Ehire Adrianza OR Brandon Crawford...I could see a deal. Otherwise, I think someone...be it the Red Sox or Braves or whoever...will outbid them.

Oh and yes...The Pads should absolutely listen to any offers on Gonzalez. When you're as bad as they are and as far from competing as they are, you have to be willing to make tough choices. Obviously there's a difference between listening and acting and they shouldn't be in any hurry to rid themselves of the second best 1b in the NL, but... The Peavy injury really hurts now. I know that Pads would much rather try to re-stock the farm system using Jake and Heath Bell; holding off on dealing Gonzalez for at least another year. They still might, but it's time to hear what's out there.

Sabean will not trade Bumgarner or Posey.

Mark it down, quote me, whatever you have to do.

For the past 10 years, the Giants have been in win now mode, and clearly haven't had much success (except for a few years).

No top prospects, not even any really good prospects.

Now we have one of the top farm systems in baseball thanks to a handful of amazing drafts (ex: 2007 when Bum and Ald were selected in the same round).

Sabean has come under heavy fire for not building a good minor league system but all of a sudden, we're looking at some premier prospects in all of baseball, and generally good teams throghout the organization. For example, San Jose (A+) won the first half league championship and are now 16-3 in the second half.

If Sabean trades away these players, it will be viewed as win now, and his job will be someone elses in a matter of months. He's not that stupid and we will see both Bumgarner and Posey wearing orange and black soon enough.

SFGG, The difference is Adrian is young enough to help a team win now and for the next 5, 6, 7 years. He's not Kenny Loften or Ellis Burks. I can see the Giants possibly dangling Posey(unlikely but possible) but I see no scenario for Sabean even throwing Bumgarner's name out. Not only because of Madison's potential, but also because Sabean has always coveted pitching. Why do you think he did'nt give any up in the off season and probably won't for the remainder either.

its between the giants and sox if hes available IMO

"If the Red Sox offered up: Buchholz, Bowden, Kalish and Navarro (all within top 11 Sox prospects) plus another low-level prospect with big upside, would the Pads consider it? "

personally i would try to hang on to one of the 2 mostly buchholz but in case theo refuses to give up buchholz would the pads consider a michael bowden,josh riddick, anthony rizzo ,justin masterson deal
while it doesnt give them buchholz it does give them alot more hitting in return (see if the would except navvaro in place of rizzo first) would they bite?

"But they sure came out to see Livian Hernadez. Again, nobody is saying its THE reason they should keep him. What is said that it is an added dimension to his popularity. The Latino market is a HUGE, HUGE marketable target in San Diego, and it does'nt hurt to have the face of your franchise possesing the ability to attract it. AGAIN, I'm NOT saying it should be THE reason the Padres should'nt trade him."

No they didn't. They came out because the Marlins had a pretty good team in '97. Attendance numbers before and after '97 suggest Hernandez had little to do with the overall numbers, despite being a Cuban born player playing in Miami.

I mean, from a marketing standpoint, I agree it doesn't hurt Gonzalez is from the area... but that's the last thing I would have in mind when deciding to trade him.

"2. Ask Billy Beane how constantly trading off all your good players is going these days. It worked a couple times for him but eventually the fans get sick of constant rebuilding. Somewhere, somehow fans want consistancy. They want stars they know will be around for awhile."

Ask Larry Beinfest the same thing. But this is besides the point. Owners tell the GMs the budget for the year. It's the GMs job to put together a competitive product with what they got. Unfortunately, the fans don't have much say, no matter if they show up or not.

"3. Trading AG would be on a lesser plane like trading Pujols. Look what the Cards have done around him. Players have come and gone, but he's remained. The Padres management don't need to trade AG, they need to be smarter and wiser with the other moves they make."

Two completely different tales. Pujols signed a long term, 9 figure extension. Of course players are going to come and go. AG doesn't have a prayer of signing a long term extension in SD... even if he wants to stay. He'll want a contract that SD can't pay, and he deserves it... and he deserves playing for a contender.

I think every team that isn't a contender should at least listen to offers for their top players. I mean, why not? It doesn't mean you have to execute the deal, but you never know what a team might offer. But in this case, with him being so young and relatively inexpensive, I wouldn't trade him unless someone absolutely blew me away.

The Sox won't trade Buchholz, Theo loves his potential.

If we got Adrian, I think it would be Alderson + Villalona+ others...

Many others will overpay for him. Adrian is still WAY underpaid..

IMO MadBum, Posey, Crawford are the untouchables...

carini26, we'll agree to disagree on points

My bottom opinion is that it just does'nt make much sense to trade him right now. Not in this economic environment where most teams would rather invest in producing an even cheaper version of AG instead of ridding themselves of their top prospects and still having to pay AG huge in two years.

Of course there are a few teams that can still swing it regardless of economics, so who knows.

SFG55: Milehigh isn't wrong. Sure Villalona isn't even 19 yet but he is struggling in High A. Its not as if he's taking the minors by storm. Until he starts having an OPS north of .800 and cutting down on the SO's its hard to say that he's a can't miss prospect, so that does decrease his value. If Balt. offered a package built around Arrieta and Brandon Snyder, or Texas with a Perez and Borbon deal I'd take those over an Alderson and Villalona package. In all three of those cases you have a righty in the 26-50 range and a guy who prob just missed the cut. Snyder and Borbon are nearly ML ready, whereas Villalona is 2-3 years away best case senario.

Also beyond those top two guys Texas has a much deeper system and I think the O's probably do as well. Most of the Giants best prospects are Noonan, Tanner, Barnes, Ehire Adrianza, Rafael Rodriguez ect. are all 2-4 years from being ML ready. Even their 2008 draft class (outside of Posey) Gillaspie, Kieschnick, Crawford will all need at least 2 years before they can make the jump. Other organizations can offer the Padres ML ready talent, to go along with a couple of high upside centerpieces a la Perez and Borbon.

Theo loves the potential of Buchholz, no doubt. But up until now, he's never been mentioned in any big trade rumors. It's always been for Salty/Teagarden/etc. and I was always in agreement that Buchholz just had too much potential to give up for someone who had so many question marks. Now, if you want a proven MLB 1B who is on an extremely reasonable contract, I think the discussion starts with Buchholz. For someone like AG, I am more than willing to give up Clay. While I love Clay, his potential, and the Sox depth at SP, if we can get a guy like AG you have to do it. The Sox have a lot of really good pitching in the minors and could afford to do a deal like the one I proposed earlier, as much as it would hurt. The Sox would still be left with guys like Tazawa, Hagadone, Casey Kelly, etc. who show some very good potential. Still, if Theo insisted upon keeping Buchholz, the Sox have plenty of arms on the farm that could entice the Pads.

55saves:

I say it as semi-serious because it will absolutely require BOTH posey and bumgarner to make the Giants' offer for Adrian match what other teams will offer. Alderson for Bell seems decent as well.

Consider: you're getting 2 established top-level performers who are cost-controlled for 3 years in exchange for 3 guys who are cost-controlled for 6 years each who MAY become top-level performers, but the odds are that at least one of the 3 will disappoint.

Plus, the Giants would be maximizing their opportunity to contend while Lincecum/Cain are under their control. By the time Bumgarner/Posey/Alderson are ready to contribute, Lincecum/Cain may be gone to the highest bidder.

Furthermore, Adrian and Bell would add little to the payroll, allowing them to still sign Holliday or Bay after the season or hold the money to ensure they re-sign Lincecum.

Alderson and Villalona are both prospects that are losing a little bit of luster. Villalona is continuing to be out of shape and hack at everything. Age be damned if he does not show improvement in areas he is deficient from year to year then he is not progressing. Alderson is showing to be more low ceiling high floor guy. Not what the Padres would be wanting to build a trade around if they are looking to move Gonzalez.

Padres would be fools to keep Gonzalez. Peavy's situation highlights the fact that Gonzalez will never be more valuable than he is today. All sorts of things can go wrong in 2010/2011, not the least of which is a major injury.

If the team won't be competitive this year or next (and they won't) move the big guy now and start that rebuilding process. Continue down that path by moving Peavy and listening to offers on Bell.

The Pads could go from one of the worst farm systems to the one of the best literally overnight by moving a few players. And while it will be painful for the fans, the net effect is immaterial. The Padres are bad team with Gonzalez, Bell, and Peavy and they will still be a bad team when those guys are gone.

Scrible:

"Which means that you get two top level performers for a total of 12 years, so even if one disappoints, you're still getting far more value out of what you're trading."

If they perform at top level for all 6 years, this is true. However, not everyone pulls a Braun/Longoria and starts killing as soon as they come up. It usually takes at least 2 years for guys to start producing as top-level guys. I figure that between the 3 of those prospects, you're likely to get a total of 8 years of top-level production after accounting for injury/adjustment/development/underperforming.

Prospects are being severely overvalued in the market right now because everyone has learned that cost-controlled youngsters are a good thing. However, guys like Alex Gordon, Phil Hughes, Homer Bailey, etc. illustrate that sometimes even highly-touted can't-miss prospects don't turn out so well.

Scribble: You are right that Villalona has monster power, but he needs to show it in the game and not just in bp. Sure he's still young for his level but he has really started to struggle. Also he had the injury that took him out of the future's game, that looks like it will cost him at least the rest of July. His plate discipline is a big issue, unless something major changes he will have to probably have another full year in High-A. While that still puts him ahead of the curve, some of the luster wears off if you figure it will take him 3 years to make the jump to the majors (and i mean 3 years from now, mid 2012).

I believe what most of the anti-trade Gonzales crowd fails to understand is that IF they keep A.G and he does not resign the Padres have wasted their biggest chip in re-tooling the farm system and competing in 2012+. Many think it will take 5+ years for the Padres to compete. So AG is going to sit back and get hammered for the next 5 years and then resign for less than what NYY, Boston or LAA or another big market team is gonna pay?

Seems unlikely. If the organization was in a different part of rebuilding I would say dont trade him, but they need top young prospects and AG can get them that quickly.

San Diego should focus on teams that have young talent and can afford to trade 2 or more top pieces + other parts without much trouble. Yankees are out bc of Tex, Boston seems ideal as a match as does San Francisco.

Waiting is a gamble for San Diego.

Another point, this argument that AG brings in the Mexican community is kind of bogus, nobody goes to the games now that he is there. What makes you think tickets are gonna move quicker when the Padres loss more games?

I think all the talk about alienating the fanbase won't matter if you take apart the WHOLE team. If you do pieces, then you'll have a problem because you'll have some high contracts, but with their t.v. contract, the nice ballpark, and the allure of seeing the other teams that come to town, they should still be making good money there. I think every time I watch a Mariners-Padres game in San Diego on t.v. the stadium is packed and that can't be the biggest draw there. The reality is that if they bring in a ton of talent, then the team will eventually win games and fans will come when they are winning, they always do.

Bell would be a good fit for the Marlins, with Kouzmanoff being a throw in... Kevin isn't a headliner, he's an add on, but they could use an upgrade at 3B. Probably they could get Sean West (SP), Isaac Galloway (OF), Emilio Bonifacio (2B), and Brett Sinkbeil (RP).

They leave Giles to play out the season and then hit his ass with the door on the way out.

Peavy has many takers obviously, but he'll want to be on a young team with the chance to compete every year. His business partner is Oswalt, so maybe he's really only interested in going to wherever Roy is pitching or else just use his no trade clause to stay in San Diego.

Houston doesn't seem like a good fit as they are already over budget and without any tradeable commodities, as far as prospects, that would elicit a team parting with an ace, especially of the triple crown ilk. I could see Houston trading Oswalt and maybe they both punch their ticket to the same team as part of a 3 way deal.

Padres want youth and Houston wants to win in the next year or two, so a team would be able to keep from giving all prospects or all players from the MLB roster. Let's give the White Sox as an example. Peavy didn't want to go there, but if Oswalt was acquired, he'd probably say yes.

Poreda, Richard, and two fringe prospects was okay'd for Peavy, so let's figure out the Astros part of it.

They start with John and Jordan Danks, just because they need outfield help, the brothers are from Texas, and I'm not overly familiar with the White Sox system. Probably Chicago would have to add a piece or two, but if they took Carlos Lee and his contract, it would make more sense. The Astros would have to take something back in the way of a heavy contract to help offset the money. I was thinking Contreras because it's his walk year and then you add Josh Fields to play 3B in Houston. Miguel Tejada is owed around only $6MM more this year and would allow the White Sox to move Alexei Ramirez in the deal to give good return value to the Astros and open up SS next season for Beckham. Tejada would be able to get a couple prospects when offered arbitration, so it would help to restock Chicago's system and they'd probably have to deal Carlos Quentin to Houston as a PTBNL for when he recovers from his injury. San Diego and more specifically Houston would have to kick in money. The Astros would also have to take back Linebrink and his almost $20MM deal for Sampson, same number of control years, but the difference helps even the money out and both are solid RH relievers.

Chris Young would then go to Houston with Will Venable. Felipe Paulino (SP) would go to San Diego with Jordan Lyles (SP).

So it would be...

To Chicago...

Carlos Lee $18.5MM
Miguel Tejada $13MM
Roy Oswalt $14MM
Jake Peavy $8MM
Chris Sampson $449K

which would be an increase of roughly $26MM this season. They would dump about $8.5MM to Houston and another $500K to San Diego. Getting $2MM from San Diego and maybe $5MM this year from Houston, leaving them to figure out the other $10MM. With Dayan Viciedo at 3B and Beckham at SS, they'll have affordable players to offset the small increase in payroll, ticket sales and merchandise would go up significantly with those player acquisitions and would all add to the pie.

To Houston

Chris Young $4.5MM
Will Venable $402.3K
Carlos Quentin $550K
Josh Fields $410K
Alexei Ramirez $1.1MM
John Danks $520K
Jordan Danks --
Jose Contreras $10MM
Scott Linebrink $4.5MM

Figureing that they are shedding significant contracts that would burden the team in the future, this is a win for Houston. They are also adding young core players at SS, 3B, and LF to mature with Pence and Bourn. They also are adding two top of the rotation SP to compliment Wandy and a setup guy to build a three headed closer in LaTroy, Valverde, and Linebrink.

To San Diego

Aaron Poreda min.
Clayton Richard $405K
Felipe Paulino $405K
Jordan Lyles min.
White Sox Prospect min.
White Sox Prospect min.

They obviously would be moving $12.5MM and it would be assumed they would have to add about $5-7.5MM over the remaining years. My guess it would be $2MM towards the remaining year and $1MM to Houston towards Young. The biggest thing is that they would have the pieces to build an awesome rotation and can spend the rest of their talent on position help.

The last guy is the main questions, so I saved him for last. We'll say that Gonzalez stays on the west coast and goes to Seattle. With the farm system the Mariners have put together, especially since Jack Z. took over, while only a few months, has been impressive, some of the credit does have to go to Bavasi, but if he didn't get rid of players at a record pace, then it would have left a better long term image of the talent evaluating he did as well.

Adrian Gonzalez would go to Seattle for a host of position prospects and a couple good arms. Wlad Balentien, Greg Halman, Phillippe Aumont, Jeff Clement, Justin Thomas, and Ronny Cedeno should get it done with the Mariners also getting Edgar Gonzalez to come in and play a utility role for the team.

San Diego would then look like this by 2010-2011

C - Jeff Clement/Nick Hundley
1B - Kyle Blanks
2B - Emilio Bonifacio
SS - Everth Cabrera/Ronny Cedeno
3B - Chase Headley
LF - Wlad Balentien
CF - Tony Gwynn Jr.
RF - Greg Halman
OF - Isaac Galloway/Drew Macias

SP - Phillippe Aumont
SP - Clayton Richard
SP - Aaron Poreda
SP - Felipe Paulino
SP - Sean West

CP - Brett Sinkbeil
SU - Cla Meredith
SU - Edward Mujica
LS - Justin Thomas
RP - Greg Burke
RP - Luke Gregerson
RP - Luis Perdomo

This is a little throw together and I know three team trades are never that many players, but if it makes sense you do the trade and I think it makes a lot of sense for all these clubs and accomplishes what they want to do.

I know for the Braves the conversation probably would start with Freeman.

Although I wonder if they would take a package centered around Yunel Escobar?

Escobar
Kris Medlen
Casey Kotchman
Couple of Minor League players

They get a top SS in the ML offensively and defensively.

ML ready pitcher.

ML first baseman that is under control just as long and allows them to develop a 1B prospect.

After that im not sure what they would want from our minor league system