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Angels Yet To Call On Aroldis Chapman
The Angels have been linked to free agent lefty Aroldis Chapman via scouting director Eddie Bane. Given Chapman's friendship with Kendry Morales and interest in Southern California, the Halos could be a decent fit. However, our source says the team has yet to call to express interest.
Chapman is also friendly with Alexei Ramirez of the White Sox. We reported Chicago's interest on October 22nd, but we've since learned that their involvement has been limited.
Chapman visited with the Red Sox on Wednesday. A meeting with the Orioles will take place today. He's yet to throw for teams, so the process still appears to be in the early stages. You can check out our review of all his suitors here. One other new piece of information - Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported yesterday that the Indians have no interest.
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Tim, Chapman threw a 'pen for the Sox yesterday.
Posted by: soxcurse | October 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Did he? Thought it got cancelled due to bad weather?
Posted by: Tim Dierkes | October 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Chapman is Dice-K part 2, Asking way too much money for anyone yet to face MLB hitters.
Posted by: Eric | October 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM
You're right. I looked it up, and it's unclear if he threw the 'pen.
Posted by: soxcurse | October 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I don't get why everybody hates on Dice-K nonstop. He isn't a bad pitcher he had a rough first year but you have to realize he was getting used to living in a different country let alone learning how to pitch to hitters. In his second year he went 18-3 with a 2.9 era. That is a very solid year and this year he wasn't healthy from the get go due to the world baseball classic. When they finally shut him down and then brought him back later in the season he came back solid again look at his stats. Also, his salary is reasonable. He is making 8.3 million a year which for a pitcher with his stuff is a very reasonable salary. Yes, they paid a fortune just to negotiate with him but with all the money that he has brought in that has most likely paid for himself. Before you start ripping on the guy do your research about him hes a solid pitcher.
Posted by: redsox22 | October 30, 2009 at 12:48 PM
check the fip and whip of daisuke. his third year was a huge correction year; his strand rate is incredible
Posted by: ArodMVP217 | October 30, 2009 at 12:51 PM
I know that is one thing he needs to work on. It seems like every inning he gets the first two guys then walks the next two then strikes the next guy out. But the fact is he doesn't allow many runs. His stuff is so good that he tries to strike everyone out instead of attacking them. He does have some areas he needs to improve on but to say he isn't a good pitcher isn't true.
Posted by: redsox22 | October 30, 2009 at 01:06 PM
I'm not saying Dice-K isn't a solid pitcher, but a $100M pitcher? No way.
Ditto for Chapman, if you could get him for a Strasburg type contract that would be one thing, but up to $60M? No way.
Just shows we need an international draft w/ hard slotting. I think they should also eliminate draft pick awards for FA since it unfairly hurts the earning power of top players at the end of their career (and can force top fan favorites out of the game).
Posted by: Eric | October 30, 2009 at 01:13 PM
" It seems like every inning he gets the first two guys then walks the next two then strikes the next guy out."
For those of us that have already had a heart attack, he could be fatal to watch in other words with the way he pitches..
I would not say his 1st year was horrible, he did win 15 games, though it was with a potent Sox offense and he went 18-3 his second year again as a 5-6 inning starter throwing 100+ pitchers per outing, sometimes over 120.
Posted by: johns | October 30, 2009 at 01:15 PM
I agree about the international draft but the thing you have to remember about Dice-K too is that he helped us become more popular in Japan. That is going to help us in the future with Japanese players coming over and has already with Junichi Tazawa.
Posted by: redsox22 | October 30, 2009 at 01:18 PM
Also, johns your exactly right lol. He can be very tough to watch but the thing that impresses me is how he always seems so calm and doesn't let it get to him. I just hope he can get on the same page with the Red Sox this offseason about his conditioning program. I remember reading this previous year about him calling out the coaches about his training regime that it wasn't the one he was used to and that it has hurt his arm strength. I highly doubt it has had the effect Dice-K says it has I think it was just him using an excuse but they do need to sit down and set something up that makes them both happy with his offseason program.
Posted by: redsox22 | October 30, 2009 at 01:21 PM
So true, johns...
He reminds me of Bobby THigpen... who would come in to a game iwth a 3 run lead, load the bases, then strike out two and get a pop out to save the game haha.
Posted by: whitesoxfan424 | October 30, 2009 at 02:05 PM
We should definetly make a run at this kid. let lackey walk and pay for this guy. In the meanwhile weaver will be our ace. His strikeouts keep going up every year. He has almost been going 20 more k every year. I wouldnt be surprised to see 200 k's next year by weav. he had a solid 2009 year with a nice era. also santana will bounce back. so take a chance with chap, tony!.
Posted by: scooba_steve | October 30, 2009 at 03:32 PM
The only way Dice-K looks good is if you think wins mean something. His biggest problems are (1) he doesn't pitch deep enough into games and (2) he allows way too many baserunners. In 2008 he was absurdly lucky. Don't be fooled by that sub 3 ERA. A great bullpen and lucky pitching saved him. I think he can be counted on (when healthy) to post an ERA in 4 neighborhood. Guy that goes 5-6 innings with a 4 ERA is #4/#5 starter on most good clubs.
As for his value in the Japanese market - all the numbers I have seen point to the fact that the value of his signing is inconclusive. Maybe the Sox make some inroads that pay off in the future. But for right now, he certainly does not resemble a $100m pitcher. And I'll bet you anything that if Sox management was being honest they would admit to having made a mistake.
Posted by: bjsguess | October 30, 2009 at 04:25 PM
If The Angels can't sign Lackey Chapman's a great fit.
Posted by: chris mlb expert | October 30, 2009 at 05:00 PM
A ~4.20 FIP (which Matsuzaka surpassed during both of his first two seasons) is pretty darn good for an American League starting pitcher. This season, 4.20 would have ranked 24th among AL starters with >100 IP - that's a solid #3 starter. If Dice-K can get back to those standards, especially in the American League - maybe he doesn't live up to his contract but it'll be pretty close.
Posted by: ugen64 | October 30, 2009 at 05:55 PM
Chapman ANGEL NOW
Posted by: dtalk | October 30, 2009 at 08:42 PM
yankees will sign Chapman. he already visitied yankee stadium as a "fan" and cashman wont let him walk to the red sox.
Posted by: Aj | October 30, 2009 at 10:53 PM