Bidding On Jason Bay

4/60 and he comes back to Boston!

this would be a great fit for the cubbies if they didnt spend money on the wrong players like soriano and bradley. if we had the money to spend and could plug bay in rf then lou gets his big bat to put in the middle

Bay's average numbers for a full year are something like 30 HRs, 100+ RBIs, 150 ks, 10-12 SB, and a .280 BA. Oh, and bad defense.
Playing in a park that actually gives up hits (see: not Oakland), I would expect a BA over .310 from Holliday, and similar power/speed numbers and 30-35 less K's.
Look what he's been doing lately in STL.
Not sure what the comparison is here.

Forget Bay and sign Abreu for a cheaper price. Less power but a better OBP.

Then go hard and use the leftover money and make a run at Adrian Gonzales or Prince Fielder.

Can you imagine another big OBP guy in that lineup and keeping constant pressure on the pitcher and defense. The the Sox can plug Lowrie back at short and let him develop without a huge need for him to produce offensively.

I would to have Bay back as a Met :) but Minaya will sign Abreu and he'll get hurt because hes old.

I'd rather have the Holliday we saw in St Louis of Colorado. Problem is, he's going to get paid same amount whether he's that player or the one he was in Oakland.

Bay is certainly an above average player. Yes his defense significantly hurts his overall value, but most teams could use a 30/100 guy in the middle of their lineup, and there's no indication he won't be putting up those numbers.

"Bay is worth 8m no more average player at best"

That's just idiotic. In what parallel universe is a 133 OPS+ "average at best?"

"Forget Bay and sign Abreu for a cheaper price. Less power but a better OBP. "

Watching Abreu's defense anywhere near a wall scares the crap out of me when thinking about him playing left field at Fenway. They're both poor fielders, but Bay is younger and a better hitter to the point that a ten point difference in OBP isn't really worth much.

If the Sox were desperate to clear salary, that'd be one thing, but they're already way under budget. Abreu's nice and all, but I'd take both Drew and Bay over him pretty much any day of the week considering the fact contract is borderline irrelevant to the Sox.

I have a gut feeling that SEA will approach his agent and deep down he really wants to go there and play. I think they get a deal done.

The Giants always offer more dollars/years. So I'm guessing they'll offer $80/5 years to see if that can get Bay in the orange and black.

Bay will be given a $50M 4-year offer with a shared option on the 4th year. The economy is not strong enough to support more contract $$$ as cable and subscriber revenues are down...and will continue to slide as people look for ways to economize..
The days of "wine and roses" are over..

Boston won't let J.Bay go because they see the next LF successor to the Teddy Ballgame good bat/good guy legacy, and the fans love him. His defense in tiny LF is an improvement over Manny. Don't be surprised if they go 5/$65 - 70MM, which would put him in Boston for 7 competitive seasons at age 36, at LF and DH. Theo has no desire to deal with Lucifer Boras and jump through hoops to pay a premium for Matt Holliday.

I just have one question.....Who is "Sexton?"

I seek bay and abreu on the Angels Abreu 2yrs 6million$ Bay 8yrs180Million$ abreu and Rivera in Right bay in left.

There's no way Zduriencik picks up Bay. I'm a Mariner fan and have watched Jack's moves. Bay would be like Ibanez in LF. PLUS, if they want a local guy in LF with the range of a CF and the bat or a corner outfielder, they have him in Saunders. You know the 2nd or 3rd best OF prospect in baseball. He's already proven his ability to stay at the majors, he turned 23 late in the season, has all the tools, and his power is coming around. He's already put 3 balls within a foot or two of getting out and his power won't come on until next year. If he plays a full season, he's a legitimate candidate for a .300/.350/.450+ line. About the only guy on his level as far as outfield prospects go, Colby Rasmus and MAYBE Snider, but Snider's defense is only average, whereas Saunders is a potential GG caliber OF. Why would they hurt the defense for only a little more pop and less average? Saunders has hit around .300 for the last month or so and is one of the best, if not THE BEST bunters on the team. If teams play close than more balls will get through the infield, if they play back, he'll drop a bunt. He's been doing it all season and he's only getting better at knowning the strike zone. THE ONLY WAY that Jason Bay goes to Seattle is if he gives a huge hometown discount (he's from B.C., Canada, and makes his home in Seattle), my guess is 3 x 11MM or it doesn't get done with Seattle. So chances are, it doesn't get done.

I bet the Sox offer Bay a 4 year/50 mil deal with a 5th year option for 16 mil

So they pay Jason 12.5MM for his 32, 33, 34, and 35 seasons, then pay him 16.5MM for his 36 season? Really? That sounds like a Bavasi move. I don't see Bay signing for more than 4 years. More likely in this economy and him not being a real top of the line player, he'd get 3 with an option. It's not like you can't find that kind of production, plus he's getting older, he could fall off the map just as easily as he could maintain or get better!

Posted by: Iknowalilsomethingaboutsomething | October 05, 2009 at 12:46 AM

Bay made 7.5mil this year. This is how I saw the deal I proposed breaking down...

2010: 10mil
2011: 11.5mil
2012: 13.5mil
2013: 15mil
2014: Team option for 16m

I think they would not do an escalated contract because it makes it harder to offer arbitration. Additionally, I think at 36 his option would be for $12MM and probably he wouldn't make more than $10MM or $11MM a season.

Bay's contract will look something like this>>> 5 years starting at $18 mil and rising each year to $22 mil on the 5th year. I know this sounds high but there will be a team that will pay him this type of money.