Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Rays, Lackey, Peavy, Cano

On this date 11 years ago, Hideki Irabu of the Yankees and Mac Suzuki of the Mariners faced off in the first match up of Japanese starting pitchers in Major League history. Irabu allowed one run over seven innings as the Yanks defeated Seattle by the score of 10-1.

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31 Comments on "Baseball Blogs Weigh In: Rays, Lackey, Peavy, Cano"


lefty58
5 years 3 months ago

“The Friarhood wonders if the Padres can already be declared the winner of the Jake Peavy trade.”
The second they unloaded that ridiculous contact they became the winners of this trade. Anything received was just a bonus.
Peavy has some of the worst mechanics in baseball, he is a virtual duplicate of Mark Prior in delivery and now that he has moved from a huge park to a tiny park, look for his slider % to increase dramatically and his elbow to quickly disintegrate.

j6takish
5 years 3 months ago

That trade was a head scratcher when it happened, and now that I’m reading the “where are they now” info about the prospects the Pads received…my god.

danks50
5 years 3 months ago

Cool story dude.

GDane
5 years 3 months ago

A White Sox Topic? Cue Lefty58 to bash all things White Sox.

lefty58
5 years 3 months ago

It’s been a long time since their GM has given anyone anything to be positive about.

He did a make a good trade in 06, but that was a long time ago.

Triteon
5 years 3 months ago

Tatis is long overdue to hit two grand slams in the same inning. Just wait until the Mets play the Yankees…
/jk

East Coast Bias
5 years 3 months ago

Ouch…

j6takish
5 years 3 months ago

That Rays article makes me jealous

East Coast Bias
5 years 3 months ago

Cano for Kemp. Hmm, I have to think about that one…

markjsunz
5 years 3 months ago

The Dodgers would need talented major league ready players in return who would be under team control for many years. This trade will happen the closer Kemp gets to free agency. No way the fighting McCourts will sign him.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

No way McCourt is the owner by time he reaches FA.

markjsunz
5 years 3 months ago

I hope you are correct. He is not going to give up his cash cow without a fight. So far the legal tab is 20 million. These people are crazy.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 3 months ago

not sure if you meant this or not, but that 20M is an estimate of how much it will cost, not what they have spent thus far.. just a clarification. Still, its ridiculous

lakersdodgersyankees4life
5 years 3 months ago

not sure if you meant this or not, but that 20M is an estimate of how much it will cost, not what they have spent thus far.. just a clarification. Still, its ridiculous

markjsunz
5 years 3 months ago

I hope you are correct. He is not going to give up his cash cow without a fight. So far the legal tab is 20 million. These people are crazy.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

No way McCourt is the owner by time he reaches FA.

GDane
5 years 3 months ago

That Padres site is extremely misleading. Lets examine the players the Sox gave up for a 28 year old former Cy Young award winner.
-Clayton Richard has carried a pretty good ERA through the first month of the season, but has an astronomical WHIP. (side note, Peavy won a Cy Young when he was Richard’s age)
-Aaron Poreda also is carrying a nice ERA, but has an even higher WHIP than Richard, and is pitching in AA (also has 12 walks in 13 IP….ouch) He has all but been written off as a starter, b/c of his inability to develop secondary pitches
-Adam Russell is 27 and has an ERA of 9.82 in AAA (opponents batting almost .400 against him)
-Dexter Carter is pitching in single A with an ERA north of 4.60.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

How is it “misleading” when in the article it talks specifically about Poreda and has lack of control recently? You just echoed almost what was exactly stated about his numbers in AA.

While you talk about Russell and his disappointing ERA in AAA and BAA. He has looked stellar on the MLB level. Its a small sample size, but why ONLY show the negative? ALL the pitchers have upside and I don’t think anyone in San Diego was screaming for Jake to go, but why ignore obvious talent in return “projected” as “high ceiling arms” and financial flexibility for the Padres to do MANY other things? It was essential for the Padres to make the trade, they just happened to get the SAME deal that Peavy nixed. Of course they lost a CY winner, nobody is forgetting that.

Of course it is early.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

How is it “misleading” when in the article it talks specifically about Poreda and has lack of control recently? You just echoed almost what was exactly stated about his numbers in AA.

While you talk about Russell and his disappointing ERA in AAA and BAA. He has looked stellar on the MLB level. Its a small sample size, but why ONLY show the negative? ALL the pitchers have upside and I don’t think anyone in San Diego was screaming for Jake to go, but why ignore obvious talent in return “projected” as “high ceiling arms” and financial flexibility for the Padres to do MANY other things? It was essential for the Padres to make the trade, they just happened to get the SAME deal that Peavy nixed. Of course they lost a CY winner, nobody is forgetting that.

Of course it is early.

DTogo
5 years 3 months ago

I agree what every thing you said. Poreda is the prize piece was suppose to be a starter is a relief pitcher in AA and he is not even the closer. Carter is in he second stint in Low A and is old for the league is putting avg numbers.

To say the Padres is a winner is a joke and I am a Padres fan. This is another Padres homer blog.

briankoke
5 years 3 months ago

“Poreda is the prize piece was suppose to be a starter is a relief pitcher in AA and he is not even the closer.”

Poreda is not the closer because he is not moving to the bullpen forever. He was moved to AA (pitchers park) and the bullpen to take all the pressure off him and allow him to get his mechanics and control back. They have not given up on him as a starter so don’t try to spin something that isn’t true.

“Carter is in he second stint in Low A and is old for the league is putting avg numbers.”

The average age for Low A last year was 22.3 and Carter is barely 23, so only slightly older than the average player in his league. There are plenty of players at that level that are the same age. Carter has great raw stuff which means he may take longer to develop and can be misleading to look at his numbers.

“To say the Padres is a winner is a joke and I am a Padres fan. This is another Padres homer blog.”

He said in this article that only time will tell and is basically saying the deal looks like a steal RIGHT NOW. He’s right. Right now this deal does look good. Richard has pitched much better than Peavy so far and everyting else is icing on the cake. Could that change by the end of the year? Aboslutely, which is what Mickey was saying in the article.

If this deal isn’t in the Padres favor so far feel free to explain why. This time try not to spin the truth. Great article Mickey! Hopefully in a couple years this deal still looks good for the Padres.

DTogo
5 years 3 months ago

“Poreda is not the closer because he is not moving to the bullpen forever. He was moved to AA (pitchers park) and the bullpen to take all the pressure off him and allow him to get his mechanics and control back. They have not given up on him as a starter so don’t try to spin something that isn’t true.”

Spin. What a joke. If was he was going to be a starter he would have already been a spot starter instead of Bushmann in AA. Nice try.

“The average age for Low A last year was 22.3 and Carter is barely 23, so only slightly older than the average player in his league. There are plenty of players at that level that are the same age. Carter has great raw stuff which means he may take longer to develop and can be misleading to look at his numbers.”

He is doing worst in he second stint in Low A. Players get better. He has a low 90’s sitting fastball. A good to plus slider and a blow avg change. Also he control was avg in the Sal League. Now it is below avg. Great stuff! Thanks for making stuff up.

I can bet. That you have a Padres Homer blog.

briankoke
5 years 3 months ago

“Spin. What a joke. If was he was going to be a starter he would have already been a spot starter instead of Bushmann in AA. Nice try.”

Straight from the horses (Jedi Hoyer) mouth on XX 1090 chief.

“He is doing worst in he second stint in Low A. Players get better. He has a low 90’s sitting fastball. A good to plus slider and a blow avg change. Also he control was avg in the Sal League. Now it is below avg. Great stuff! Thanks for making stuff up.”

LOL… Your numbers are based on a ridiculous sample size. His overall numbers don’t look great because of ONE bad start. He hasn’t given up more than 2 runs other than that 1 start. 5 games (including a quality start today) with 2 ER’s or less and ONE bad game. Spin, spin, spin. He’s still striking out about 1 per inning and giving up less hits than innings pitched.

Carter doesn’t throw a slider. It’s a curveball. Thanks for showing how much you really know about the player spinster.

DTogo
5 years 2 months ago

Poreda is still a relief pitcher and they said he will not be a starter(From Mad Friars). Russell is have a horrible stint in AAA and last but not least Carter is in SS Eugene as a relief pitcher and still giving up runs. Thanks for great insight on Padres Prospects HOMER! You do not know what you are taking about.I read your garbage on Sandy Alderson on MLBTR years ago. Please no more posts on these guys stupid blog on this site ever again.

danks50
5 years 3 months ago

Anyways, on the friarhood article, Peavy was completely out of whack the first several starts of the season, however you could tell he made an adjustment during both the game against Texas and KC. His velocity was up, his pitches were crisp and most importantly he had command of the plate and by only watching him pitch primarily for his 3 games last year and this year when he’s locating his pitches he’s basically unhittable.

As for Clayton Richard he’s got a hard fastball and decent slider, he’s basically a back of the rotation starter however Petco will likely somewhat inflate his numbers. The rest of that trade wasn’t anything special. If Peavy pitches like he can I have no idea how that’s considered a steal.

studio179
5 years 3 months ago

Silly Friarhood, you can’t judge the trade almost 1 1/2 months into the season. I’m not even a Sox fan. Peavy did look better against the Rangers and Royals his last two starts. Let’s give it a couple years before winners and losers are crowned.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

“Only time will fully tell the story but money aside, I still think we are looking at MANY good years from not only Richard, but Russell and perhaps Poreda and Carter.”

“While the White Sox know what they received in former CY winner in Jake Peavy, it may be a matter of years before we see how Poreda, coined as the “prize in the deal,” part plays out.”

Only a projection, obviously it will take 2-3 years to know the true outcome of who were “winners” or losers” but as even in the article showing how some baseball analysts already project or view the trade.

The fact is, the trade allowed the Padres to do many things, include signing FA pitcher Jon Garland. It also gave the Padres arms that are already pitching well. Pitching depth the Padres desperately lacked! The article is pointing out that the trade was beneficial in several ways. Getting young arms, trading a guy who is on the DL with SOME health concern and receiving a nice package in return while on the DL no less and the SAME package that was previously nixed by Peavy.

Guest
5 years 3 months ago

“Only time will fully tell the story but money aside, I still think we are looking at MANY good years from not only Richard, but Russell and perhaps Poreda and Carter.”

“While the White Sox know what they received in former CY winner in Jake Peavy, it may be a matter of years before we see how Poreda, coined as the “prize in the deal,” part plays out.”

Only a projection, obviously it will take 2-3 years to know the true outcome of who were “winners” or losers” but as even in the article showing how some baseball analysts already project or view the trade.

The fact is, the trade allowed the Padres to do many things, include signing FA pitcher Jon Garland. It also gave the Padres arms that are already pitching well. Pitching depth the Padres desperately lacked! The article is pointing out that the trade was beneficial in several ways. Getting young arms, trading a guy who is on the DL with SOME health concern and receiving a nice package in return while on the DL no less and the SAME package that was previously nixed by Peavy.

bochybacker4
5 years 3 months ago

The next big game Peavy wins will be his first…I dont think he makes it through the season without at leat one DL visit. Richard alone will put up better numbers than Peavy at 1/100 of his salary and Russell will contribute to the ML pen.

istravin
5 years 3 months ago

Obviously right now just Richard for Peavy looks like Padres coming out on top, and I do agree that Peavy’s mechanics will make it tough for him to continue pitching at a top-of-the-rotation level into his 30’s. Plus Peavy is kind of bull-headed, which makes him competitive but also resistant to changing mechanics, pitching approach, etc. I’ve heard Poreda doesn’t have what it takes to be successful in the majors as far as mentality. The other two guys, I don’t know much about. But if the Padres can beat up on the Astros and carry momentum into divisional games, and the Giants’ offense comes down to earth a bit, the Padres can be buyers. I love the Hoyer approach so far. GO PADRES

istravin
5 years 3 months ago

Obviously right now just Richard for Peavy looks like Padres coming out on top, and I do agree that Peavy’s mechanics will make it tough for him to continue pitching at a top-of-the-rotation level into his 30’s. Plus Peavy is kind of bull-headed, which makes him competitive but also resistant to changing mechanics, pitching approach, etc. I’ve heard Poreda doesn’t have what it takes to be successful in the majors as far as mentality. The other two guys, I don’t know much about. But if the Padres can beat up on the Astros and carry momentum into divisional games, and the Giants’ offense comes down to earth a bit, the Padres can be buyers. I love the Hoyer approach so far. GO PADRES