Oswalt Approves Phillies Deal; Option Won’t Be Exercised

1:53pm: The deal is done, tweets Rosenthal.  Piecing this together, it appears the Astros send Oswalt and $11MM to the Phillies for Happ, Gose, and Villar, with the Phils potentially adding $1MM to Oswalt's buyout but not exercising his option.

A few tweets from Crasnick: the Cardinals and Padres made late runs at Oswalt today.

1:44pm:  Rosenthal tweets that Oswalt's option is actually a mutual one.  With the trade, his buyout will increase from $1MM to $2MM if the Phillies pick up the option and he declines, and remain at $2MM "if he simply opts out on his own."  Rosenthal adds that the third player in the deal will be shortstop prospect Jonathan Villar.  Some sources spell it "Villan," including the Baseball America Handbook.    

1:34pm: Oswalt has accepted the deal, tweets Matt Gelb of the Philadelphia Inquirer

12:51pm: Gose and Happ are definitely in the deal, tweets CSN Philly's Jim Salisbury.

12:12pm: Oswalt plans to OK the deal, but it's not official yet, reports Stark.  He adds that the Astros will be sending $11MM.  Rosenthal tweets that Oswalt's 2012 option will not be exercised; he'll be compensated some other way.  ESPN's Amy K. Nelson tweets that Oswalt will get $1MM added by the Phillies to the buyout of his '12 option.  She adds that the details are being worked out now regarding Oswalt retaining his no-trade clause. 

ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets of a rumor that speedy outfield prospect Anthony Gose may be in the deal.  AOL FanHouse's Ed Price tweets that he's hearing Gose and Worley could be in the swap.

10:43am: Rosenthal tweets that he hears Singleton is not in the deal.

10:17am: The identities of the other two players going to Houston remain unknown, but ESPN's Jayson Stark says the Astros have pushed hard for minor league first baseman Jonathan Singleton

9:04am: The Astros will receive three players for Oswalt, tweets Rosenthal, while also paying a "very significant" part of his salary.  Happ will be one of the three.  Astros owner Drayton McLane has been negotiating directly with Phillies president David Montgomery, reports CBS' Danny Knobler.

7:37am: SI's Jon Heyman hears the Astros and Phillies were discussing Happ, righty Vance Worley, and two younger pitchers (Twitter link).  Worley, a 22-year-old righty, spent most of 2010 at Double A, posting a 3.20 ERA, 6.6 K/9, and 2.9 BB/9.  Baseball America ranked him 18th among Phillies prospects heading into the season, predicting a future as a back-end starter or middle reliever.

1:08am: The Astros and Phillies have reached an agreement on a Roy Oswalt trade, reports Mark Berman of FOX 26 in Houston.  Berman says the Astros are now waiting for Oswalt's approval, having hammered out the players and money with the Phils.  Wednesday morning, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports had reported that the players were "pretty much agreed on."  Lefty J.A. Happ has been a rumored part of the deal for a while now.

Oswalt's contract has $5.46MM left from his $15MM salary this year, $16MM in 2011, and a 2012 option for $16MM with a $2MM buyout.  It remains to be seen how the Astros and Phillies settled the financials and whether the Phils will pick up Oswalt's option, though SI's Jon Heyman hears that the Astros are sending a lot of money to the Phillies (Twitter link).


419 Responses to Oswalt Approves Phillies Deal; Option Won’t Be Exercised Leave a Reply

  1. hagausaf 5 years ago

    As a Braves fan, I think this is a nice trade for the Phillies. It does make the Phillies more formidable of course but I can’t knock them for at least trying to get better unlike the Braves who need another bat.

  2. wow I dont know whos worse the Astros or the Mets.That trade was stupid for the Astros.This looks like the Santana-Mets deal all over again,except that the Phillies were not the underdogs.By the way what ever happened to those prospects.The Phillies win here.Huge.Although Oswalts age makes them more so of a 30s team. They have to get some youlth on that ballclub.At least brown is very young.If not anyone else

  3. i love how all the braves fans are saying how this doesnt matter and how the braves are better, but if they didnt care or think its a threat why are you posting stupid comments on here and saying all this bull. I think you guys are scared shitless about this team especially since your huge lead is now gone and down to 3.5 games in a week haha. enjoy watching your great unstoppable braves come crasing down just like the mets did and even if you win the wild card imagine playing the phillies and having to face halladay hamels and oswalt in the first 3 games

  4. bevothephenom 5 years ago

    heres a thought….halladay lidge and oswalt are all good friends….maybe with oswalt it will make lidge happier and he will pitch better?

  5. philsWSchamps 5 years ago

    Happ, Gose and Villar? Seriously? Bring up Worley TODAY to replace Kendrick. Wade will be rightfully toasted for this deal. Not that he had much of a leg to stand on but Ruben can put his gun away now.

  6. Snotbubbles 5 years ago

    Sigh. There’s always some uninformed poster bringing up Cliff Lee. Let me break it down for you. The Phillies have an internal payroll of $140M set by ownership. Cliff Lee made $9M this year. They were at $138M in salary committments prior to trading for Roy Halladay. Roy Halladay made $15M this year. Gee I wonder why the Blue Jays kicked in $6M in cash in the Halladay deal. Would it be so the Phillies could stay under their $140M payroll? Then the Phils trade for Oswalt who is set to make $5M more this year. The Astros are kicking in $11M. So Oswalt won’t cost the Phillies anything this year which keeps them under their $140M payroll.

    So in the end, it’s not Lee or Oswalt. In the end it’s do you want to pay $9M for Lee or do you want to pay $9M for Oswalt AND Halladay.

    • philsWSchamps 5 years ago

      not only that but also Lee has been saying for years that he’s guaranteed to go to FA and will get $20 million a year.

  7. Ill make Houston a deal we will send you Omar and Jerry + Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo for Berkman and Lee.They would probably do it anyway.We will sign bobby v get some sort of general manager and be fine.Houston would probably do this deal anyway.Cpnsidering how dumb they are.I wonder what they were smoking

  8. Dave4G4e 5 years ago

    Astros, this was seriously the best deal you could drum up? I don’t understand. Read the post again and thought it was ridiculous they didn’t keep Lee but I didn’t see the money part of it, makes the Astros look worse. Interesting to see how Oswalt handles some true pressure although he’s not the Ace on the staff anymore.

    • nm344 5 years ago

      You realize he’s started 7 playoff games, including WS

      • Dave4G4e 5 years ago

        talking about the town, philly is much different than houston

  9. BigRedOne 5 years ago

    The Phillies sacrificed their future for the next couple of years. Too bad they won’t even make the playoffs this year.

    • zolttt 5 years ago

      future ?? an average pitching prospect that had 1 good lucky season, a michael bourn clone, and a shortstop with 103 k’s and 42 errors in 100 games for a stud pitcher with a lower career era than halladay is a sacrifice? they dont need any more outfielders, they have 4 starters now, and still have gillies. and oswalt is a large upgrade over happ.

    • Muggi 5 years ago

      Heh, half the Braves’ lead gone in less than a week, offensive rank jumped from 10th in the NL to 3rd in a month…the slump’s over. The juggernaut is back.

  10. Ill tell you the honest truth illgive them all of thos people for nothing.

  11. I think that Amaro may have possibly just redeemed himself after…you know….that OTHER trade…

  12. Im really sad to see Oswalt leave Houston…Thats like jeff bagwell or Craig Biggio leaving..Good luck Roy hope you dominate the East…

  13. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    Sure they the Phillies can hit at times, but aside from Halladay and Oswalt, the rest of the rotation and bullpen is still a disaster. Pretty much, the Braves are almost the exact opposite of my Phillies statement: Great pitching, so-so offense (well actually not the exact opposite cause the Braves are producing runs)

    This is clearly the year of the pitcher.

    Pitching > Hitting = Braves > Phillies

  14. phillies2412 5 years ago

    Hmmm did you forget about Cole Hamels??? Sure the bullpen hasn’t been that good but a rotation of Halladay/Hamels/Oswalt/Blanton/Kendrick is not bad at all.

  15. znick129 5 years ago

    Really other then halladay and oswalt hahaha…..HAMELS????? You’re a braves fan clearly! Great, they’re doing great.

    Pitching>Hitting=Braves…….
    Phils get oswalt

    Pitching+Hitting+Experience+Red hot bats+Actual run scoring(“more than a measley three runs a night”)+better players in general=Phillies>Braves

  16. zolttt 5 years ago

    hamels has given up more than 3 runs 1 time since april has ended…

  17. frank_costanza 5 years ago

    Lets not turn this into a “my team is better than yours” argument. Whichever team comes out of that division is clearly the favorite in the NL. If history is any indicator, the Phillies know how to win down the stretch, and Billy Wagner knows how to blow saves.

    Its hard to see the Braves not making the play offs given their bullpen. But other than Tim Hudson, the Braves have a pretty mediocre rotation given Tommy Hansons struggles. If the Phillies acquire Roy Oswalt, then it would be hard to compete against a rotation of Halladay/Oswalt/Hamels.

  18. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    I didn’t forget Cole Hamels because he hasn’t been the same pitcher the past two years. Joe Blanton has an ERA at almost 6 and Kyle Kendrick was optioned back to Triple-A cause he’s not ready for the majors as a result of his last game against the Cardinals.

  19. Guest 5 years ago

    Cole Hamels is just as overrated as Mike Pelfrey is.

  20. Guest 5 years ago

    Cole Hamels is just as overrated as Mike Pelfrey is.

  21. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    Management:
    Bobby Cox > Charlie Manuel

  22. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    Last time I checked the Braves had a better bench than the former NL Pennant Champs.

    Experience:
    Braves > Phillies

  23. Oswalt career vs. Atlanta 0-3 in 7 starts with a 7.58 era and 1.79 whip and .354 BAA

  24. dunnetg 5 years ago

    Actual run scoring? The Phillies have scored 14 more runs than the Braves this year, less than one extra run per week. You realy think that’s significant?

  25. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    And an ERA of almost 8 last October.

  26. I guess the Phillies went on a hot streak the past 2 year with this lineup winning the Pennant. Youre a braves fan trying to hold onto hope when it should be fading. The braves do not have the hitting or veteran pitching to hold on into the Fall. Hamels has been a top 5 starter in the nl the past month as is Halladay. Theyre winning without Utley, Rollins and Victorino. The Phillies play the braves 6 times in September when they will be healthy. Its a fact the Phillies are the superior team in the NL east.

  27. Kendrick went down to triple for a spot to open up for a long reliever. He then came back up and threw 7 innings of 1 run ball. Blanton has had 3 starts in a row now going 7 innings and giving up 3 runs. Please dont post misleading wrong information.

  28. than you havent been watching what Hamels has done this year. Go look at his stats and the games that he has pitched.

  29. than you havent been watching what Hamels has done this year. Go look at his stats and the games that he has pitched.

  30. Let’s see … With a pitcher-friendly home park, the Braves have exactly one starter (Tim Hudson) who has a lower ERA this year than Cole Hamels. Hamels had a rough 2009, but he’s been his old self in 2010. If you had watched some baseball this year, you would have known that.

  31. malcolmec 5 years ago

    Cole is back. Compare his numbers in 2010 to his numbers in 2007/2008. The only huge difference is that he’s only 7-7 because of the Phillies sputtering offense.

  32. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    It’s not hope. It’s called confidence. Let’s not forget the Braves have shut down Utley, Rollins, and Victorino the past two years.

    By the way, I didn’t know baseball statistics were misleading these days. I guess Blanton deserves to have a sub-3 ERA. Bravo…

  33. SeanTheBrave 5 years ago

    Billy Wagner has only blown 5 saves this year. And if you remember history so well, you’ll remember the Braves stretches during the 90’s and their winning they complied. And Tommy Hanson has been the only guy struggling in the rotation. He’s still trying to find rhythm in his command and it’ll come. Last year wasn’t a fluke. You look at Jurrjens and the numbers he’s complied since he’s returned from the DL. Derek Lowe might give up lots of runs, but he gives the Braves wins. Kris Medlen has been a sensation since he’s been put in the starting rotation. Ever since he took Kawakami’s spot, he’s been undefeated as a starter.

  34. roebirds 5 years ago

    Except with a rotation of Carpenter/Wainwright/Garcia

  35. And if you remembered history well, you’d remember that the Braves only won ONE World Series during that 14-year run…

    And if you’re seriously using Derek Lowe’s win-loss record to show how good he is, well I’ve got nothing else to say. The guy has a 4.48 ERA, a 1.436 WHIP and a 3.6 BB/9, not to mention a terrible contract.

  36. And if you remembered history well, you’d remember that the Braves only won ONE World Series during that 14-year run…

    And if you’re seriously using Derek Lowe’s win-loss record to show how good he is, well I’ve got nothing else to say. The guy has a 4.48 ERA, a 1.436 WHIP and a 3.6 BB/9, not to mention a terrible contract.

  37. With an ERA that high, Lowe doesn’t give the Braves wins, the batters are giving him wins. Same argument I had with my friend last year when Moyer had, at one point, the most wins on the club, but a huge ERA.

    I would rather have Felix with his sub-3 era and 7 wins than Derek’s 10 wins if he’s not gonna pitch well because if their bats cool he’s SOL but i felix were pitching on any better team than one of the worst offenses in the league, he’d likely have double digit wins now too.

  38. With an ERA that high, Lowe doesn’t give the Braves wins, the batters are giving him wins. Same argument I had with my friend last year when Moyer had, at one point, the most wins on the club, but a huge ERA.

    I would rather have Felix with his sub-3 era and 7 wins than Derek’s 10 wins if he’s not gonna pitch well because if their bats cool he’s SOL but i felix were pitching on any better team than one of the worst offenses in the league, he’d likely have double digit wins now too.

  39. TommykUD 5 years ago

    And Brad Lidge has only blown 3. That’s saying a lot.

  40. ryantex 5 years ago

    You can’t compare these two trade scenarios. None of us have any idea how Oswalt will/would pitch post-trade. And I have to say, Randy Johnson is a much, much better pitcher than Roy Oswalt.

  41. ryantex 5 years ago

    You can’t compare these two trade scenarios. None of us have any idea how Oswalt will/would pitch post-trade. And I have to say, Randy Johnson is a much, much better pitcher than Roy Oswalt.

  42. chucktb 5 years ago

    Huh???? Randy Johnson was a sure-fire, first ballot, Hall of Famer. Roy Oswalt is an above average pitcher. Wow!

  43. Jason Klinger 5 years ago

    Oh, really? And what’s the World Series count – oh, yeah. 1 for each. That Bobby Cox is a freaking genius. What, 12 straight division titles and one WS ring? Wow!

  44. Jason Klinger 5 years ago

    Oh, really? And what’s the World Series count – oh, yeah. 1 for each. That Bobby Cox is a freaking genius. What, 12 straight division titles and one WS ring? Wow!

  45. Kolby is showing an ability to hit, but if it wasn’t for that he wouldn’t be in the system at all. He’s been criticized constantly for not having a true position. True players swap now and then, but within their abilities. Kolby has played around the park and nothing seems obvious. 1B is just where he’s looking at now, but it won’t stick. I hope he comes up and makes an impact, but until he gets a position he’s stuk in the minors.

  46. Kolby is showing an ability to hit, but if it wasn’t for that he wouldn’t be in the system at all. He’s been criticized constantly for not having a true position. True players swap now and then, but within their abilities. Kolby has played around the park and nothing seems obvious. 1B is just where he’s looking at now, but it won’t stick. I hope he comes up and makes an impact, but until he gets a position he’s stuk in the minors.

  47. wxdavid 5 years ago

    and a era of 1.65 in JULY of 2010. Oh wait I see what you are saying sean the dingbat…. you are arguing that becuase Hamels has 1 awful year in 2009 EVERY year from now on for the rest of his career will be Just as bad…

    wow you braves fans are darn smart

  48. hacker13 5 years ago

    What was Hamel’s ERA in the previous October, you know, the year when he was NLCS and WS MVP?

  49. Oswalt career vs. Atlanta 0-3 in 7 starts with a 7.58 era and 1.79 whip and .354 BAA

  50. Bravesmaniac 5 years ago

    4.3 FIP in 2010 is decent but he is waaay overrated by phillys fans

  51. dunnetg 5 years ago

    Is that a fact? I would have thought that the superior team would have the best record.

  52. dunnetg 5 years ago

    You are right, Bobby Cox is a freaking genius! I love it when I see Phillie fans come around…

  53. The Phillies have two world series titles

  54. Bravesmaniac 5 years ago

    try 14 straight

  55. dunnetg 5 years ago

    What do World Series victories have to do with who will win the division?

  56. bravescountry 5 years ago

    and what did the phillies do during that run? NOTHING!!!

  57. Uhhhhh…. no.

    Cole Hamels = World Series MVPMike Pelfrey = Wichita State University MVP

  58. Dylan 5 years ago

    No one is giving up on Happ, they are trading him….BIG DIFFERENCE! Phillies didn’t give up on Drabek or Taylor, they just seized an oppertunity.

  59. They’ve got about as much to do with it as the Braves stretch in the 90’s that the guy I replied to mentioned…Absolutely nothing, obviously.

  60. bflaff 5 years ago

    Are you trying to suggest that’s a strike *against* Phillies fans?

  61. Taylor isn’t showing the knockout stuff he had in the Phillies system right now in Triple A Sacramento, either. Drabek is doing well in Double A but is still a year or two away at best, I think. It’s amazing the frequency at superstar players get dealt and teams essentially give up nothing in return to get them. The only trades in recent memory where a superstar got traded a team got really duped in terms of prospects that panned out was the Tex to Atlanta trade. Not saying that the guys given up for Halladay, Cliff Lee, or the like will turn out to be nobodies, but more often than not, these prospects just don’t seem to pan out on the Major League level as anything more than role players.

  62. Oswalt has peaked and would be ignorant to want to pitch in Citizen’s Bank Park. I hope he does approve the deal. Just so I can say I told you so.

  63. Just_MLB 5 years ago

    if the braves gave off a stench in the 90’s…what did the phils give off the 8 other decades they sucked gorilla donkey balls ?

  64. Muggi 5 years ago

    “I told you so” doesn’t really work when it’s what most people are expecting.

    Also, whatever Happ is better than Oswalt at, it isn’t pitching.

  65. bravescountry 5 years ago

    he is an okay pitcher he doesnt have outstanding stats

  66. Ok…
    Phillies have been in the last 2 WS

    Top 3:
    Halladay (2.21)>Hudson (2.4)
    Hamels(3.48)>Hanson(3.99)
    Oswalt>Anyone else you have

    AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA YOU HEAR THOSE FOOTSTEPS?
    Thats the sound of you missing the playoffs again.

  67. dunnetg 5 years ago

    I think you’re confused. I’m not an actual baseball player, I’m just a fan. If it looks like I might miss the playoffs, I just set the DVR and watch the games when I get home.

  68. Bravesmaniac 5 years ago

    hahaha, if era is how you compare pitching staffs you must be the most dense person in baseball. even if the phillies win the division the braves have a good shot at the wild card. in the playoffs the braves would at least get to NLCS. the phillies futire is going to suck. 55 mil tied up for 3 aginng players in 2013-howard,halladay,utley
    next year payroll will be about the same and you have more holes in you lineup than a piece of swiss cheese.
    how do you expect to do well in the playoffs with the “bullpen” you have? 4.5 era
    hahahahaha

  69. What was any of the Braves ERA’s in any of the past four Octobers?

    Oh yeah….0.00 because you guys suck.

  70. malcolmec 5 years ago

    I haven’t been agreeing with you over the course of this thread, but I must say, that was pretty funny.

  71. malcolmec 5 years ago

    I believe that would actually be a -.–.

  72. Guest 5 years ago

    Wasn’t that like…THREE YEARS AGO? David Eckstein also won that award. How good is he? Exactly.

  73. well to us its underwhelming. we do not know how high the stros are on those guys. for all we know they are extremely high on them and considering them a prospects. the more we learn the more this is a salary dump. they saved 12 mil with the deal.

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