Odds & Ends: Cubs, Phillies, White Sox, Tigers, Lilly

Links for Saturday evening..

  • The Cubs signed second-round selection Reggie Golden for a bonus of $720K, according to Jim Callis of Baseball America.  Golden, the 65th overall pick in the draft, received a bonus $157K more than MLB's recommendation for his draft position.
  • Scouts from the Astros, Tigers, Rays, Red Sox, and Pirates were all in attendance at Phillies-Rockies today, tweets Jayson Stark of ESPN.
  • During FOX's telecast of Mets-Dodgers, Ken Rosenthal reported that the Phillies have scratched Double-A starter J.C. Ramirez from his Sunday start, though he is not injured.  The move, he says, could be an indication that a trade is in the works.
  • White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen thinks clubs are asking for too much in trade talks, writes Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times.
  • Tigers manager Jim Leyland wants to hang on to his young talent unless the club can get something special in return, writes Vince Ellis of the Detroit Free Press.
  • Despite some recent reports to the contrary, Cubs officials told Carrie Muskat of MLB.com that there is nothing imminent regarding Ted Lilly.
  • The Mets are "near-certain" to non-tender John Maine this winter, according to Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com.  The right-hander underwent season-ending surgery on his right shoulder yesterday.
  • It's unlikely that the M's move Jason Vargas, a Seattle official told Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (via Twitter).


31 Responses to Odds & Ends: Cubs, Phillies, White Sox, Tigers, Lilly Leave a Reply

  1. aap212 5 years ago

    John Maine has pitched more than 140 innings in the majors once. It was three years ago. It was the last time he was healthy for a full season and he was good, not great. Time to stop waiting on him like he has a long track record, or a recent track record, or he’s got a Harden/Sheets upside. Cut bait.

  2. Tigerfan93 5 years ago

    For the young players’ sake, I hope Detroit trades some of them. I’ve seen enough players have their potential wasted by Jim Leyland. The guy straight up doesn’t know how to manage.

  3. verlander 5 years ago

    I wish Ozzie had tweeted that himself. He’s funny.

  4. Vargas would be a pretty nice starter for the Mets right now if Omar hadn’t thrown him in that genius Putz trade.

    • aap212 5 years ago

      Stupid comments function acting up. Don’t know how to delete one of the two comments, so I’ll replace this one with a joke:

      A racist, a homophobe, a misogynist, and an anti-semite walk into a bar. The bartender says, “What’ll it be, Mr. Gibson?”

    • aap212 5 years ago

      You know, I ding Omar more than anyone, but I gotta say, it was the right move at the time. Vargas won’t have an ERA under 3 long term. He’s been ludicrously lucky on balls in play, and has benefited a great deal from that ballpark and defense. He’s a solid starter, and the Mets could badly use that, and the trade worked out terribly, largely because of Putz getting injured, but Minaya’s process was correct for once. Cleveland is the only team that completely beefed that trade.

  5. cbcbcb 5 years ago

    It would be nice if someone the Phillies got for Lee has some value. Lets hope that another team likes JC Ramirez, though I thought he was a reliever, not a starter? Does anyone know if the Phillies are transitioning him to a starter?

    • Utley4God 5 years ago

      JC’s always been a starter.. some people think he may have to become a reliever but he’s started and been pretty solid outside of a few bad starts.

    • Abraham Zapruder 5 years ago

      Maybe Rube will trade Gillies, Ramirez and Aumont for Haren?

      • aap212 5 years ago

        Maybe Jerry DiPoto will die of laughter before he can get the full-time job.

    • Bender44 5 years ago

      18 starts between high A and AA. 4.36 ERA. Decent strikeout/walk ratio. WHIP of 1.29. About to turn 22 in August. Legit back end of the rotation prospect, I’d say.

    • He’s made significant strides this year as a starter. Hes been dominant as of late sitting at 94 mph all the way into the 8th inning.

  6. philsWSchamps 5 years ago

    Werth had a solid game if they were scouting him. Better yet maybe Ibanez!! Worley looked good too in mop up work touching 95-96. Didn’t know he had that much in him. Should use him in the future instead of Baez.

    • I’m pulling for the Red Sox to grab Werth. Throwing back Doubront+something should get it done.

      That would allow the Phillies to call up Domonic Brown and perhaps throw Doubront back to the Astros with something for Oswalt… or even better the D-backs.

      • Utley4God 5 years ago

        Phils arent’ trading Werth unless they get a ton of value. Doubront and something doesn’t qualify. They are contenders, only reason to deal Werth is if prospects coming back get them Haren.

      • Doubront will not get it done. The Phillies are not in a position where they have to dump Werth. He’ll net them much better than that if they choose to deal him.

  7. bevothephenom 5 years ago

    i see the pirates were in attendence…maybe the phils will trade ramirez to the pirates for a good bullpen arm…hanrahan….dotel…carrasco…its possible

    • Abraham Zapruder 5 years ago

      Ramirez wasn’t pitching in Philadelphia today, why would they scout him there?

      • malcolmec 5 years ago

        Hopefully because the Pirates, in an effort to remain the NL’s most laughable team, are interested in Danys Baez.

        • coach_coryell 5 years ago

          sorry pal. that title is reserved for the cubs.

  8. Dylan 5 years ago

    Phillies should just get a young pitcher for Werth….I doubt Wade Davis would be available, but Rays have a lot of young pitchers (both at the MLB and Minor League level)…instead of going for prospects to trade, why not go for another young pitcher so that they can trade Happ, Kendrick, Ramirez and Singleton for Haren?

  9. Ferrariman 5 years ago

    i just don’t get the point in trading Happ for any starting pitcher.

    wouldn’t that just mean they would have to then go out and get yet another pitcher?

  10. CrustyJuggler 5 years ago

    Word. I keep expecting Vargas to blow up and go back to being a fringe ML pitcher but dude just mows through lineups day in day out. I think he might actually really be this good.

  11. HerbertAnchovy 5 years ago

    I’d agree with that. I was skeptical of Vargas last year, but he’s getting better and better. Hopefully he can stay healthy.

  12. aap212 5 years ago

    Right, and Carlos Guillen finally blossomed on his watch.

  13. Tigerfan93 5 years ago

    Miguel Cabrera was an MVP candidate when he came to Detroit. Brennan Boesch had proper coaching in the minors, Austin Jackson has really cooled off at the dish, but has still done okay. Best managers in baseball? Are you crazy?! The guy manages with no sense of urgency. He rests his best players in must win games. He takes out starters when they’re pitching decent and lets the relievers blow the games. Leyland looks like a good manager to you because I can tell you’re a Twins fan.

  14. Yeah he must be a terrible coach since he’s been coaching for 24 years with 3 Manager Of The Year Awards and 2 World Series appearances with one that was a win. He is a damn good coach who has never had enough superstars or enough good role players to work with to really dominate.

  15. Tigerfan93 5 years ago

    Enough superstars? You don’t win a world series with nobodys. The only reason Detroit lost the 06 WS is because Leyland was out-managed by Tony LaRussa. The Tigers had a healthy team, and plenty of rest going into that series, they should have swept it.

  16. verlander 5 years ago

    //The only reason Detroit lost the 06 WS is because Leyland was out-managed by Tony LaRussa//

    If their pitchers could’ve fielded some ground balls they might have won the World Series too. But that’s all Leyland’s fault, right?

  17. Ferrariman 5 years ago

    still bitter i see :)

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