Elias Rankings Update

After the season the Elias Sports Bureau will take all players over the 2009-10 period, divide them into five groups for each league, and rank them based on various statistics.  Then each player will be labeled a Type A, B, or none.  Those designations and the possible accompanying arbitration offers determine draft pick compensation (click here for a refresher).

Eddie Bajek has reverse-engineered the Elias rankings, and he's providing that information exclusively at MLB Trade Rumors.  Here's a look at how the players rank for the period beginning with the 2009 season running through September 7th, 2010.  The Google spreadsheet below has separate tabs for each position group.  You can also go directly to the Google spreadsheet here.  Our last set of Elias projections is here, in case you want to see what changed.

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  1. Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

    After seeing Betances pitch last night, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Yankees get some draft picks for Vazquez and keep moving Betances up. Defintly the next King Felix.

    • moonraker45 5 years ago

      great pitching duel last night for sure. .. I don’t see the comparisons between him and king felix though, i think with the delivery and arsenal he looks like a taller version of Josh beckett ( of old of course)

      • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

        Well its funny because I thought. His delivery couldn’t be more Kind Felix like.

    • THANK YOU SPAN!!!!(Is it ok if I call you that?) FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICES DELLIN! I love this kid and his dominance of the game is comparable to great pitcher like King Felix. I did pay attention to that game, and right there and then I thought “Cashman better not trade him” I always knew Betances would be dominant if he staye healthy. Nice surprise to see people notice.

      • Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

        Yeah you can definetly call me that and yeah he is the man. Can’t wait to see him at the Major League Level!

    • The next King Felix? As if!

  2. moonraker45 5 years ago

    I’m glad Fraser has slipped back to a Type B. . No way he was going to get signed as an A… also John Buck isn’t going to get up to a Type A so I really don’t get why the jays continue to give him all the catching duties when JP is on the team, get him acclimated to the bigs.

    • Sniderlover 5 years ago

      Forget Arencibia, why the hell were McCoy, Hoffpauir and Molina is the same game… TOGETHER?

      • moonraker45 5 years ago

        Lol well the jays have struggled against lefties all year. and holland is keeping left handed batters to something ridiculous like .149 ba… so cito thought lets stack it up with the righties.. but some how doesn’t find a spot for JP arencibia to play? lol

        i just keep telling myself.. one more month, one more month. … i love cito, but i can’t wait for him to be gone

        • HAte Cito all you want. But he’s going to get the jays a winning record(hopefully) this year. That’s pretty dame good in that division w/ some of the Jays having down years.

  3. I still can’t believe that the Angels Francisco Rodriguez is a type A. How do they get these rankings?

  4. What are these rankings based on? How is Luis Castillo more valuable than Jose Reyes?

  5. texintillidie 5 years ago

    how is micheal young and elvis A. ranked as a type B. I guess that proves how ignorant this ranking system is. Its almost as bad as the H.O.F. system (pete rose)

  6. texintillidie 5 years ago

    how is micheal young and elvis A. ranked as a type B. I guess that proves how ignorant this ranking system is. Its almost as bad as the H.O.F. system (pete rose)

  7. Backup_Slider 5 years ago

    Eddie, I assume you are bolding would-be free agents. If so, you’ll likely want to unbold Brett Myers (NL SP) at your next update session as he was extended through 2012 with a vesting option for 2013. I believe the also-bolded Livan Hernandez was recently extended, too. Thanks for the work.

  8. mrmet128 5 years ago

    would Pedro Feliciano be likely to accept arb?

  9. Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

    That’s a good point. My bad.

    Cash should have known that when he pretty much helped build the future Braves pen that Vazquez wanted to retire in NY.

    By the way where have you been? Haven’t heard from you in a while strike zone.

  10. moonraker45 5 years ago

    Maybe not necessarily.. He’s at the cut offline between Type A/ B.. if he slips to a B there may be more NL teams inclined to give him a 2-3 year deal. If he finishes an A, then for sure he accepts.

  11. There’s no way that a player like Vazquez gets offered arbitration. Nor Ordonez, nor Damon.
    The criteria in arbitration so heavily favors players with experience and high salary history, that they’ll almost always be better off accepting arbitration, unless they are sure that they will get a multi year deal as free agent. GM’s don’t care about years of experience or salary history- two of the main criteria in arbitration. GM’s care about what likely production they will get.

    The Elias rankings are based first on position, so each position group is equal in compensation value even if one group is much more valuable on the market, and they care about the narrow statistical formula that they use, not a player’s real value. They should scrap the formula and just go with who gets the most money. That IS the player’s real value.

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