Multiple Teams Preparing Push For Rasmus

Despite John Mozeliak's insistence that Colby Rasmus will not be traded, multiple teams could make a push for the outfielder this winter, according to Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. In a chat with fans, Strauss indicated that the Braves, Blue Jays, and Diamondbacks are among the teams interested in prying Rasmus away from the Cardinals.

A report earlier this season suggested that a rift between Rasmus and manager Tony La Russa led to the 24-year-old requesting a trade. With La Russa mulling a return to St. Louis for 2011, rival teams are presumably hoping the Cardinals will reconsider their stance on keeping Rasmus. Even if they don't intend to move their former first-round pick, the Cards "will have ample opportunity to turn down trade offers on Rasmus in upcoming weeks and months," according to Strauss.

A month ago, when MLBTR's Ben Nicholson-Smith looked at possible trade partners for the Cardinals and Rasmus, his list included the Braves and Jays, among other clubs.


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431 Comments on "Multiple Teams Preparing Push For Rasmus"


Guest
4 years 9 months ago

I believe every team would make a run at a young player of that caliber (and under team contract to boot!). I think we need to be looking at, who could offer what.

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4 years 9 months ago

Absolutely agree! Of course now this thread will be filled with offers of non top prospects and bench players. Rasmus will get top talent in return for any team he goes to, and I believe every team would be interested.

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nickherrin
4 years 9 months ago

Absolutely. Any team would want a player of this calliber. But the Cardinals simply arent letting Rasmus go. Why would Mozeliak get 60 cents to the dollar on a player who has underperformed in his first two seasons in the Major Leagues? The Cardinals are a much better team with Rasmus, and thats even when he is posting the numbers he put up this year. Not to mention he will likely play much better next year and he is a cheap, solid option.

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nickherrin
4 years 9 months ago

Absolutely. Any team would want a player of this calliber. But the Cardinals simply arent letting Rasmus go. Why would Mozeliak get 60 cents to the dollar on a player who has underperformed in his first two seasons in the Major Leagues? The Cardinals are a much better team with Rasmus, and thats even when he is posting the numbers he put up this year. Not to mention he will likely play much better next year and he is a cheap, solid option.

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4 years 9 months ago

Marcum, D’Arnaud, Stewart for Rasmus.

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BlueJays4
4 years 9 months ago

i agree with D’Arnaud and Stewart but who do we have to replace Marcum? A FA?

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4 years 9 months ago

I also agree: D’arnaud is redundant since Carlos Perez has emerged (not to mention Arencibia) and Stewart is blocked at the major league level. Drabek would step into Marcum’s spot, and Rzep and SHill would battle for the 5th spot.

It would STILL be a huge win for the Jays.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

but Stewart is (supposedly according to AA) as good as Drabek
i’d say trade Marcum, start both Drabek and Stewart, trade or pen Rzep and Hill

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

I agree with this. Marcum, D’Arnaud, another good prospect.. But who and would it be enough.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

is there no way that we’re keeping d’arnaud?
is he not as good as i think he is?

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4 years 9 months ago

He has nice value and I think Carlos Perez will be even better. Jays have the most catching depth in all of baseball.

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4 years 9 months ago

They do? I’m not disagreeing with you, but the Yankees have a ton of depth at Catcher. I thought they had the most depth at that position. I’ve only read on Carlos Perez, J.P. Arencibia, and Travis D’Arnaud. Can you give me some more names?

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4 years 9 months ago

AJ Jimenez. Yankees are a close second. Again, fangraphs had an article on this exact topic comparing each Yankee catcher to each Jays one.

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4 years 9 months ago

Oh, I see.

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4 years 9 months ago

D’Arnaud is far from redundant. When he’s healthy he’s a very solid 2 way catcher and is far ahead of Perez, who has yet to reach Lansing, in development. And I wouldn’t be trading away catchers on the basis of a hot season by Arencibia in homer happy Vegas.

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

EHhhh. Not far… both are damn close and due to Arnaud being injured may have hurt his value while Perez was pretty beast.

I would also watch our for Jiminez. He seems to get no respect in our system.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

He’s not far ahead on Carlos Perez at all. Go look at recent scouting reports on Perez.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Go read what I wrote. 2 full levels is far ahead in terms of development and means D’Arnaud is nowhere near redundant. You don’t go trading higher level prospects because a guy had a good season in the GCL or NYPL.

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ju1ced
4 years 9 months ago

Come reply to this when they release Jays top prospects for next year. You will see everyone rave about Perez, it’s not just ‘stats’ in lower ball…

Not taking anything away from D’Arnaud, because I like him too, but Perez is gonna fly up prospect lists.

Guest
4 years 8 months ago

You also missed what I wrote. I don’t deny for a second that Perez has a higher ceiling than D’Arnaud. The only point I am making is that they are 2 full levels apart and therefore D’Arnaud isn’t close to redundant – they are on completely different time tables and the Blue Jays are clearly taking their time with Carlos.

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4 years 8 months ago

You also missed what I wrote. I don’t deny for a second that Perez has a higher ceiling than D’Arnaud. The only point I am making is that they are 2 full levels apart and therefore D’Arnaud isn’t close to redundant – they are on completely different time tables and the Blue Jays are clearly taking their time with Carlos.

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4 years 9 months ago

Way too much. Every Blue Jay, prospect or major leaguer, is underrated.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t say that. Just because they are lost in the Rays, Yanks and Sox sometimes doesn’t mean they are all underrated. I actually think there are a couple of over hyped guys on that team.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Like who?

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Keith Y
4 years 9 months ago

no jays are overhyped because americans dont care about them

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MLB_in_the_Know
4 years 9 months ago

that’s just because things in Canada don’t matter.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Be Canadian: live like an American without having to call yourself one.

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MLB_in_the_Know
4 years 9 months ago

Didn’t mean to like that, hit the wrong button.

So you want to be American and live like us, without having to do absolutely anything with your life except protect yourself against bears? Which clearly is a full time job.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

well…

at least we don’t have to protect ourselves against guns

thank goodness

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Yes. We live in igloos, ride polar bears to work and say eh after every sentence. Post less, read more there Mr. Palin.

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MLB_in_the_Know
4 years 9 months ago

You got to me hullo, I am jealous, I totally would love to ride a polar bear to work.

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Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 9 months ago

We also have a 5th season to go along with Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter. It’s 2 months when we are in complete darkess, and it’s called the Canadark.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

troll much?

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

I would have to strongly agree.

But I dont think D`Arnaud and Stewart are underrated. Stewart would be a much higher ranked prospect if scouts knew whether he could be a future starter but they don`t. Some say he could be a reliever which hurts his value.

D`Arnaud is still pretty raw and was great before getting injured but I think he is still a top 100 prospect that is solid all-around.

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johnsmith4
4 years 8 months ago

Wow…a lot of comments removed in this thread. Got here to late. I guess this is what I get for watching the hockey game.

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nepp
4 years 9 months ago

Not enough…Rasmus is an elite player not even close to his peak years yet. He’ll bring an absolute boatload of talent in return.His most similar batter through Age 23 is Bobby Bonds, that’s how good he’s been so far.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

Too bad Colby Rasmus isn’t Bonds at all. He is a Mike Cameron type player. Not bad but certainly not Bonds.

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vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

I assume you know that Bobby Bonds isn’t Barry Bonds. Baseball-Reference has Bobby as #1 on Rasmus’ most similar by age list.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

yeah sorry haha it’s late.

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4 years 9 months ago

Cool. Let me know when Rasmus posts an OBP above .365.

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frontdeskmike
4 years 9 months ago

He said Bobby Bonds.

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vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

Cut the guy some slack. Most 12 year-old don’t know that Barry’s dad was a pretty good ball player too.

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roberty
4 years 9 months ago

Maybe if Rasmus pumps enough synthetic horse testosterone into his bloodstream he could post a .600 obp. too.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Yes because steroids made Barry Bonds the second best hitter of all-time.
Also, every hitter should take HGH and they’d hit 54 bombs like Jose Bautista.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Dude, he means Bobby Bonds. He was really good at baseball, though all people pay attention is Barry.

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roberty
4 years 9 months ago

Duh. I’m saying Barry Bonds never would have put up those numbers had he not been on steroids. Maybe people don’t pay attention to Bobby Bonds anymore because he retired before most of us were born. Oh yeah, he’s also been dead for seven years.

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moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

so you’re saying that if johnny mac took steroids he would belt 50 homeruns??

In this magical land you live in is their unicorns and leprechaun too?

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roberty
4 years 8 months ago

Duh. I’m saying Barry Bonds never would have put up those numbers (.600 OBP) had he not been on steroids. That implies nothing else. A lot of players have hit 50 HRs without the help of steroids. A lot of players have used steroids and never hit 50 HRs. What I am staying is Barry Bonds never would have put up those numbers had he not been on steroids. That is what I am saying. Want me to say it again? Is this clear enough for you? I’m saying Barry Bonds never would have put up those numbers had he not been on steroids.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 8 months ago

so what you’re saying is steroids don’t neccesarily make a batter a 50 HR hitter
but Barry Bonds only hit 50 HRs because he was taking steroids?
great logic there man

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roberty
4 years 8 months ago

Bonds could have hit 50 HRs without steroids. He didn’t, but he could have. That isn’t really what I’m saying, but it is true. Bonds never hit 50 HRs while not on steroids. In 1993 he hit 46. Bonds actually only hit more than 50 HRs once. I only mentioned 50 HR’s because some other guy put those words in my mouth. What I am saying is Bonds couldn’t have posted a .600 OBP without steroids. The player with the highest single season OBP. whose name isn’t Barry Bonds is Ted Williams in 1941, when his got on base at a ridiculous .553 clip. This, of course, was the year he also batted .406. Only 10 players have ever gotten on base more than 50% of the time for an entire season. I think this is a lot more impressive than hitting 50 HRs.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 8 months ago

the OBP is partly due to his rediculous number of IBB

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roberty
4 years 8 months ago

Obviously.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 8 months ago

so in reality, his OBP would not be .600
if disregard his IBB, his OBP would just be about .500, still a crazy high number, but it has been achieved by players who are yet to be identified as using PEDs or HGHs or whatever else that helps

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roberty
4 years 8 months ago

Now you’ve got it. If Bonds wasn’t on ‘roids, teams would have opted to pitch to him instead of purposely putting him on base 122 times.

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roberty
4 years 8 months ago

Obviously.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Okay. And Brandon Belt is putting up Babe Ruth numbers in AA. But he isn’t great.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

You mean “Roids” Bonds? Rasmus doesn’t make a difference in a game, since you can tell by his WPA, which is .58 this season. When you talk about elite, you will be talking about Buster Posey, Justin Upton, Tim Lincecum, Robinson Cano, Delmon Young, Ubaldo Jimenez, Clay Buchholz, David Price, Trevor Cahill, Felix Hernandez, Jaime Garcia, Josh Johnson, Neftali Feliz, Carlos Gonzalez, Joey Votto, Yovani Gallardo, and Jason Heyward. Those are some of the players that came up within the last few years. Each one of those players are better than Rasmus. Need I remind you, he did request a trade, so the Cardinals lost their leverage.

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4 years 9 months ago

Delmon Young, Jaime Garcia and Trevor Cahill don’t have 1/4 of Colby Rasmus’ value.
Fangraphs recently did a trade value list and Rasmus was #14 in all of baseball.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

if Rasmus was so irrelevant
why is practically the entire MLB interested in having him?

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Show one report that shows what you just claimed. You can’t show one, because there isn’t one.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Bobby Bonds, not Barry Bonds. Try reading.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

No. Here’s what I think

I say Marisnick, D’Arnaud, Krouse, and Stewart for Rasmus if it’s the Jays.

Also keep an eye on the Royals…They could get in on this.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

Never even heard of Krouse. Throw in Marcum take back Stewart. Cmooon

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Michael Krouse. And if you add in Marcum and take out Krouse it’s asking for trouble. Krouse and Marisnick are two good prospect with tremendous upside. Stewart is a very good prospect as I’m sure you know and keep D’Arnaud. I am very familiar with the Jays system mainly because I know a lot of players on the Fisher Cats and I saw them play many a times this summer. I’m not saying you don’t, I’m just saying Marcum should stay, Krouse, D’Arnaud, Marisnick, and Stewart should go.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

so you don’t think Stewart will be as good as Marcum?
no offence intended at all, im just curious

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Nope. I see Stewart as a reliever in the long term simply because of his delivery issues.

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moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

AA disagrees, and with all do respect, so do i. He may start in the pen because of the logjam in the rotation, but with time, he will be at the front of someones mlb rotation. Down the stretch he was quietly BETTER then drabek.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

That was down the stretch, but Drabek is and will be a better pitcher in the long term than Stewart. I was just saying my opinion though, you know I think Stewart is awesome, I do, but I’m just not as high on him as a lot of Jays fans are. He had a really good season, I just don’t know if he will maintain that going forward, especially as a starter.

Guest
4 years 9 months ago

I just feel like Marcum should be the one that goes because he’s under team control for lesser years and is older.

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vtadave
4 years 9 months ago

….and he’s also far less proven and at some point, don’t the Jays need to actually hold onto a few of their home-grown guys?

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4 years 9 months ago

You’re acting like the Jays are the Pirates. You need to give up something to get something.

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

We don`t have a Krouse. We have Michael Crouse. From what I`ve read, he is a raw prospect and had a good season last year. Supposed 5-tooler but he is wayyyy too far away before sniffing the big leagues.

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johnsmith4
4 years 8 months ago

I think it is Crouse. Canadian. About same age as Marsnick..at same level…little bit more power less speed.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

Outside of Stewart I don’t see anyone really intriguing. Crouse is young and hasn’t put up eye popping numbers, D’Arnaud has struggled in the low minors so I think his stock is down, and Marisnick is talented but hasn’t showed anything yet at all. Talent is big but 3 of those 4 guys haven’t done anything special.

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4 years 9 months ago

D’Arnaud just got ranked the #1 hitter in the Florida State League by Baseball America but okay.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

I realize it is a pitchers league to some extent but sorry I’m not that excited about .259/.315/.411, 21% K%, 6% BB%, 6HRs in 71 games. I realize he is a catcher but either he needs more power or a better average.

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

He was hitting for power, hitting for high batting average, getting on base before the injury. After that, he was terrible and got injured again.

I believe before the injury he was around .300, .350 OBP, 6 HR and 28 RBI and was probably our hottest and best prospect at the time… and well I explained the rest before.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Marisnick actually has tremendous upside and is well liked by Goldstein and Callis. It’s actually not as bad as you would think but it’s decent. So seriously man (don’t know your name or what to call you beause your commenting name isn’t like SPAN, joe, or Mike you know?) what do you suggest because trading Marcum doesn’t make sense…D’Arnaud is still very young, and the two OF’s have tons of upside. Do you trade Adeiny? Thames?

Eric Thames is actually a very good prospect. Know him well. Great guy and someone who everyone should like.

If they trade he, D’Arnaud, Stewart, and Marisnick…That is definetly a fair trade.

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

I’m not bringing up trades just commenting. Me and you do have different styles though I have come to learn. You like the high upside, low minors guys where-as I prefer the lower risk guys. I was just playing the devil’s advocate in the situation based on my style.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

That’s really interesting and I guess you’re right. I do really like all kinds of prospects but I suppose I have a little more patience for upside guys. So then if we have each other nicknames for the type of prospects we like, I’m Anthony Gose and you’re Kyle Weiland. Yes? Haha.

But yeah I always like talking with you on MLBTR. You’re one of the more knowledgeable guys on here, but there’s 1 problem, you’re a Sox fan!

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jwredsox
4 years 8 months ago

haha I know gotta hate them Sox. And I’m more of a Brett Wallace guy to some extent and you are Anthony Gose. I like that example since it was a trade earlier this season even though I’m not really wild about Wallace still.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Well to me, Wallace is really overrated. He doesn’t play a good 1B, and doesn’t really get on base. Maybe to make you sound more noble, you should be Mike Leake and ill be Zack Wheeler maybe?

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Well to me, Wallace is really overrated. He doesn’t play a good 1B, and doesn’t really get on base. Maybe to make you sound more noble, you should be Mike Leake and ill be Zack Wheeler maybe?

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johnsmith4
4 years 8 months ago

Sorry jwredsox…you like low risk and high upside…like Kelly!

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jwredsox
4 years 8 months ago

haha I know gotta hate them Sox. And I’m more of a Brett Wallace guy to some extent and you are Anthony Gose. I like that example since it was a trade earlier this season even though I’m not really wild about Wallace still.

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johnsmith4
4 years 8 months ago

I would say think of what the Jays would ask for Travis Snider. Cardinals probably want the same for Rasmus.

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mateodh
4 years 8 months ago

If the Jays think X is worth Travis Snider, the Cardinals had better get more than X for Rasmus.

Snider has a lot of talent, and it’s not a matter of Cardinal fans overrating Rasmus. Remember that however highly touted Snider has been, Rasmus was there, near the top of a lot of prospect lists. The big difference between them is that Rasmus has translated that talent onto the field for at least one full year.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

Noooooooooooo

either you’re underrated the Jays guys or overrating rasmus
he is VERY good, but not good enough to give 2 of out best prospects and a top of the rotation starter.

I’d say Marcum, Arencibia (if we do bring back Buck), and Rzep/Jenkins/Mcguire (this may not be good enough for the Cards to take, but IMO they balance out to around the level of Rasmus)

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

i meant two of Rzep/Jenkins/Mcquire

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

McGuire is not allowed to be traded by league rules, and Zep has no trade value.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

shows how much i know

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4 years 9 months ago

He’s right.. Rzep doesn’t have any value right now.

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4 years 9 months ago

I disagree. smart GMs will look beyond an injury-riddled season and assess his overall body of work (including minors)

His value isn’t as high as it was before the season, but his last 2 starts didn’t hurt…

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4 years 9 months ago

smart GM’s also don’t look at 2 starts to mean a single thing. also his body of work isn’t all that impressive. neither is his stuff. sorry, no value IMO.

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FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 9 months ago

agree on value, disagree on stuff. He does has strikeout potential.

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

2 starts? Huh? He had an ERA under 4 through the month of September… you know when he finally started to find it. Do you remember how Morrow`s first month went?

He doesnt have overpowering fastball or great command but hes got some nasty pitches and good break on those pitches. He is still trying to harness the command and if he can cut down on his walks he can be a pretty solid pitcher. He was great in 09 but was injured before the season started and it seems he never found it until September.

He does have value, not as much as last year because he had an off-year but he would be a great buy-low option which would be stupid in Jays part to trade him because you apparently think he has no value which is not true.

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4 years 9 months ago

He’s like 7th on the Jays SP depth chart.

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Sniderlover
4 years 9 months ago

And that makes him have no value?

Okay.

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moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

His slider is devastating, rzep has way more value then you are giving him credit for. He also rose through the jays system pretty quickly, why don’t you give him some time to mature as a professional pitcher rather act like a hater

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4 years 9 months ago

Buck isn’t coming back… he wants a long-term contract and AA wants the picks.

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4 years 9 months ago

Cecil for Rasmus, straight up. Works for both sides. Your price is way too high.

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4 years 9 months ago

My price? Dude I’m a die-hard Jays fan. It’s what the going price will be. Not a #3 starter for top 5 CF in the game. (And I love Cecil).

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4 years 9 months ago

First of all, Cecil was basically in his first full season this year. The notion that he’s a “#3 starter” is absurd when he had basically the same ERA as Greinke, Buehrle, Lackey, especially if you’re going to be emphatic and say Rasmus is already a top 5 CF in the game (Hamilton, Gonzalez, Kemp, Sizemore, Wells, Granderson, Rios, Victorino…). Cecil would dominate pitching in the NL Central if he can go 11-2 in 15 AL East starts, and the Cardinals would be getting an extra year of control. It shouldn’t take much more than Cecil to get it done and you are severely overrating Rasmus and underrating Cecil in the process.

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azdsnd
4 years 9 months ago

Colby Rasmus is far better than Kemp, Sizemore, Wells, Granderson, Rios, and Victorino, hands down. Just sayin’. So you’ve only got two guys better than him.

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The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 9 months ago

Rasmus is definitley not better than Sizemore not even close

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azdsnd
4 years 9 months ago

Based on what? Sizemore’s numbers from 2008? Sure, a 7 WAR season is freaking fantastic. Since then, though, he’s been worth a whopping total of 1.6 WAR over two injury-and-suck-filled years. I’ll take Rasmus.

Looking closer, though, there are arguments to be made for Wells, Granderson, and Rios, though all of them are inconsistent on a year-to-year basis and Rasmus is cheaper and younger (i.e. on the rise). So I’d still take Colby over them.

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The_Porcupine
4 years 9 months ago

I wouldn’t want to give up Marcum. Its their rotation that keeps the Jays competitive. Keep the 5 projected starters (Marcum, Cecil, Romero, Drabek, and Morrow) and build around them. Its an inexpensive group and there isn’t any free agents that would fit the payroll and be an upgrade. That way you don’t have to rush the younger pitchers until they are ready. And you do have to field a rotation of Litsch types. See if you can get Rasmus for prospects. Maybe send Arrencibia (sp) and resign Buck.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

I would love to have Rasmus on the Braves, but they will want players that Braves will need in a few years. Ex: Teheran.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

What about parting ways with maybe Delgado and Vizcaino instead of Teheran?

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4 years 9 months ago

Yes Yes Yes

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Depends on which Delgado you mean. If you mean Randell, I approve. But, I’m really high on Vizcaino. Maybe Delgado with some other prospects not name Teheran or Vizcaino or Freeman.

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4 years 9 months ago

A lot of people are more bullish on Delgado, especially since Vizcaino tore his UCL this season. I’d give up Vizcaino before Delgado. And nobody is going to be asking for Dimaster Delgado, his career may have been ended by that car crash.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Hanson, Jurrjens, Minor, Teheran, Vizcaino will most likely be headlining the rotation in 2013. If Jurrjens is gone, then Delgado would be in there. I was also thinking about Jurrjens for Rasmus straight up. Jurrjens is young, proven, and under contract for three more years.

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4 years 9 months ago

The part on Vizcaino is your opinion. Especially considering Vizcaino’s arm issues, most see Delgado as the better prospect right now.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Some pitchers come back and are better after having an injury. Tim Hudson, Cliff Lee, Brett Myers, and quite a few others. Just because they have an injury doesn’t mean their going to be worse.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Yes I meant Randall. What about he, Bethancourt, Perez, and Beachy for Rasmus and Jones?

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

About about Craig instead of Jones? Even though I know that will never happen. Have Rasmus, Craig, and Heyward in that outfield would make the Braves a lot better. Maybe add Milligan or Johnson also.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

I’m not a big on Craig as most, but I hear ya.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Don’t gotta be high on him, but you gotta admit that it would be one of the best, if not the best OF in baseball.

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Dave_Gershman
4 years 9 months ago

Well that’s the thing I don’t think he is as good as you’re making him. Would it be one of the best outfields in Baseball? Probably. Is it probably the best young OF? Probably. But I don’t think It would be one of the best because I don’t thing Craig is that good. Heyward and Rasmus are two of the best young players in Baseball though.

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BravesRed
4 years 9 months ago

Look at it this way. Would you rather have Craig in the OF, or McLouth/Cabrera in the OF? What do you think of Jon Jay?

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4 years 9 months ago

NOOO Teheran shall not be traded…

I’d give up Arodys Vizcaino or Delgado or both for him.. seeing as the Cards really need cheap pitching depth and good prospects since I doubt they can keep Carpenter through 2012.

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Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

carpenter is owed 15million. let the guy walk and pick up one more pitcher from the free agent market and let maybe Shelby Miller take his spot(not as an ace right away, but a spot in the rotation)

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4 years 8 months ago

Ok, so that’s Adam Wainwright, Shelby Miller, and Jaime Garcia. You need more than that.

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Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

lance lynn, kyle McClellan are their. 2 of the three you mentioned would be cost controlled players and its not like the cardinals have never signed a free agent before.

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Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

carpenter is owed 15million. let the guy walk and pick up one more pitcher from the free agent market and let maybe Shelby Miller take his spot(not as an ace right away, but a spot in the rotation)

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jwredsox
4 years 9 months ago

No real information from Joe Strauss here. It is just him saying that teams will call about him without any real sources except his own opinions. Until a real team comes out and says they will make a run or Mozeliak says he will field offers shouldn’t he be described as not going anywhere especially since La Russa (the guy he has the rift with) is likely leaving? just wondering.

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mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 9 months ago

He’ll be traded; the other teams know it, and Mozeliak knows it too. Every player that has a problem with LaRussa has been traded. The other teams know that too. They will all lay back and wait until they hear rumblings of the situation being untenable between LaRussa and Rasmus, and they’ll pounce. The Cardinals won’t get anything near his value. But LaRussa will be happy. Until he finds the next player he finds untenable on his team. Then the process start all over again.

It’s beyond me why they keep LaRussa around. He hasn’t done much with the teams he’s been given the last couple of years. He is such an unpleasant, arrogant man. Ha, the Cardinals can have him!

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Just_MLB
4 years 9 months ago

I heard his relationship with Pujols is not on the greatest of terms either. I think with Pujols they may draw the line and tell Tony to get along with him or else.

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Taskmaster75
4 years 8 months ago

“Every player that has a problem with LaRussa has been traded.”

Unless John Mozeliak is oblivious and doesn’t realize Tony la Russa is about to retire, there’s no logic here.