Potential Trade Destinations For Colby Rasmus

Most teams fortunate enough to have cheap, productive players don’t have a whole lot of interest in trading them. The Cardinals, however, may consider offers for Colby Rasmus this winter. Cardinals manager Tony La Russa told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that his 24-year-old center fielder asked for a trade, and GM John Mozeliak must now decide whether to make one. 

Rasmus denies that he asked for a trade, but has undeniably drawn the ire of La Russa and Albert Pujols. La Russa is a free agent after the season, so the Cardinals could simply hire another manager this winter to avoid clubhouse tension. But Pujols isn’t going anywhere and he says the Cards should trade Rasmus if he doesn’t want to play in St. Louis. Of course Pujols isn’t the one making this decision. Mozeliak would likely have serious reservations about dealing a cornerstone player, regardless of Pujols’ feelings and Rasmus’ reported demand. 

After all, Rasmus doesn’t hit free agency until after the 2014 season. He has an .849 OPS this year and plays a premium defensive position for the MLB minimum salary. It is extremely difficult to replace that kind of asset, which is precisely why other teams would have interest in Rasmus if the Cardinals decide to trade their center fielder. Here’s a list of potential suitors for Rasmus, but do keep in mind that Cardinals executives have given no public indication that they are seriously considering a trade:

  • The Braves have a pair of disappointing center fielders (Melky Cabrera and Nate McLouth) and a thing for Georgia natives, so they would presumably have interest in Rasmus.
  • The Padres have Tony Gwynn, Ryan Ludwick, Kyle Blanks and others under team control in 2011, so they’d have to get creative.
  • The Brewers would likely have trouble prying Rasmus away from the Cards, since they play in the same division, but an outfield of Ryan Braun, Rasmus and Corey Hart wouldn’t look bad.
  • The A’s traded away a promising center fielder (Carlos Gonzalez) two offseasons ago; maybe they’d seize the chance to acquire an equally promising young player.
  • The Red Sox have a pair of options under contract for 2011, but injuries to Mike Cameron and Jacoby Ellsbury diminished the team’s center field depth. 
  • The Nationals, who are now dealing with their own center fielder’s issues, would likely have interest in Rasmus if the Cards make him available.
  • The Royals don't have a long-term option in center field.
  • The Blue Jays would presumably inquire, as they did when Yunel Escobar fell out of favor in Atlanta.

Other teams would likely have interest, too, since players like Rasmus aren’t often available via trade. Again, the Cardinals will likely make every effort to keep Rasmus in St. Louis before putting him on the market. But if they do decide to trade him this winter, a variety of rival teams should show interest.


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Brandon Woodworth
4 years 11 months ago

Believe me, the Braves would take him in a heartbeat. Make it happen, Frank!

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

every team in mlb will make a trade offer for rasmus in the offseason. can you honestly think of any team that wouldn’t be interested? i sure can’t. its gonna take 2 bluechip prospects+probably another prospect to get him. unless they want someone on the MLB roster because they choose not to rebuild.

4 years 11 months ago

I think Atlanta has a HUGE leg up to get him if he hits the market. They will want him and Colby i’m sure would love to play at home, not to mention the Braves have his brother Cory Rasmus in the system as well. I assume we will have to delve into our pitching prospect surplus but there is no player or players I wouldn’t give to get Rasmus, The left-handed power bats in ATL lineup would be set for years with Freeman set to take 1B in 2011. I can dream can’t I? Braves are going to be making some things happen this off-season somehow I know it.

oremlk
4 years 11 months ago

If he does become available, every team in MLB is going to have at least passing interest. There will be quite the bidding war if the Cardinals are forced to trade him.

Scott Houlihan
4 years 11 months ago

Rasmus for Kemp?

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

No. kemp makes a lot of money, rasmus is dirt cheap. gotta be a blue chip prospect+kemp

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

No…Colby Rasmus isn’t exactly the greatest thing sinced sliced bread. No blue chipper.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

really? i gurantee atleast 10 teams will offer a blue chipper for a guy that has 4 years of service time before free agency, OPSing around .850, playing a premium position, and has speed. actually, most teams will offer more than that because they would know its gonna take more than just 1 bluechip prospect.

you also don’t make a whole lot of sense. it wasn’t very long ago that rasmus was rated the #3 best prospect in all of baseball and is actually producing at a high level in the majors, and now he isn’t worth more than a matt kemp who is having issues with his organization and having a pretty lousy season to boot? seems like you have something against him at this point.

4 years 11 months ago

Honestly I think you overvalue Rasmus. In every post you make about him you are making it seem like he is the best player in baseball. Is he very valuable? Yes. Is his contract one of the more tradeable one’s in baseball? Yes. The problem is is that any team wouldn’t be smart to give up more than 1 bluechip prospect. They could give up 1 bluechip prospect and other good prospects. It’s just that giving up more than one possible cornerstone of your future for 1 potential cornerstone doesn’t make much sense to me. Like when the Braves traded for Teixeira, IMO they way overpaid at the time they made the trade and even now. Teams learn from other teams mistakes. Like if the Cards asked from the Red Sox Casey Kelley and Ryan Westmoreland for Rasmus, I’d hang up before he even finished his sentence.

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

Hell yeah the Cardinals have problems so let’s beat this dead horse some more!! The 2 posts about it, fine, the poll about it, great…..now we have to continue this? He isn’t going to be traded, can’t we just move on and start posting articles instead of guessing?

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 11 months ago

umad?

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

Just not a fan of guess work, and it’s not like it even goes into why each team would be a fit and who they could potentially give up. Seems like a post just to have a post. Larussa said that he believes things have been smoothed over and Rasmus said that he just wants to play baseball and worry about winning. Sounds like people are trying to run with a story that is a non-issue now.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

Just because there are denials doesn’t make it a non-story or shoo it out of the atmosphere. It’s out there now, and denials don’t quash speculation or immediately kill the idea of a trade that people have been thinking about for the past day.

And what else would you expect them to say under the circumstances? There’s still 20% of a season to play. My guess is you’ll see these rumblings start again as soon as the season ends or the Cards are mathematically eliminated.

Also, web traffic is generated by fresh content. You constantly refresh your site so people come back several times throughout the day, and posts like this generate commentary as well, building community by starting a discussion. It may be filler to you, but nothing appeals to everyone. But by the end of the day this post will have dozens if not 100+ comments. This is the marketplace of ideas. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to read it and you don’t have to participate. Move on already.

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

So exactly what I said, a post just to have a post. Keep in mind this happened in JULY. I’m not saying there haven’t been problems between TLR and Rasmus, every Cardinal fan knows they have. But it’s not like there are even rumors right now. Theres a fairly good chance TLR will be gone after this season, if he is back then maybe they look into the possibility of trading Rasmus. If they do, they do, but right now I’d say theres < 10% chance of that happening.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

And yet, here you are. Thanks for playing. (And yes, your criticism is part of the marketplace of ideas and is — or should be, anyway — valuable feedback to the site’s admins.)

This is the way the Web and new media work. Bandwidth is not at a premium the way newsprint is, or as broadcast time is. If people weren’t interested, they’d move on. Clearly this will interest some people. You? Not so much. That’s okay too.

Not everything can be breaking scoops all day long. Think of posts like this as a discussion at the bar. Isn’t that an acceptable use of this site? This is a holiday and there aren’t going to be as many people on the site as usual, screwing off at work (I work at a news site, and those are our visitors — sharp spike in traffic at 9 a.m., steady to 5 p.m., dropping off after that). But regardless there will be people participating, speculating, thinking, discussing, throwing out trade ideas and shooting others down. Baseball without “would you trade X for Y” discussions would be a lot less interesting. What’s so wrong with those?

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

Ok then make it a discussion. Give something to go on. Not name 7 teams and say these teams could be interested and there would probably be more. Throw some names out for trade ideas or something. If all you want to do is name teams that are interested, it would probably be easier to name the few teams that wouldn’t be interested. There aren’t too many teams that look to be set long term in CF, those would be the only teams that wouldn’t be interested. Throw up a discussion about whether TLR will be back, it would be alot more relevant than this discussion.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

You’re not wrong. I thought there weren’t a whole lot of reasons behind the teams named on that list.

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

But it worked, i’ve been here much longer than intended. haha have a good holiday, I’m out of here. I’ll check back later to see how many times the Cardinals get Ellsbury offered to them today.

Sixto_Lezcano
4 years 11 months ago

I sure hope they don’t trade him. The Cardinals are so dumb that he just sits on the bench anyway, and this way I’ll get to see a fistfight between Rasmus and Pujols at some point next summer.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

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Brandon Woodworth
4 years 11 months ago

It is. But I never though the Braves would ever trade Yunel Escobar. I think it’s pretty safe to say LaRussa will be back, so the Cards GM may be looking to get rid of him in the offseason. A manager-player relationship is important.

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

I wouldn’t say it’s safe to say TLR will be back at all. He has lost this team, it is obvious watching them on a day to day basis. They play like he manages, boring and show no emotion. I have been a huge supporter of TLR for years, but I think his time here is done. Alot of people didn’t think he would come back 2 years ago. In fact I would say theres a MUCh better chance that Rasmus is here opening day 2011 than Larussa.

Scott Houlihan
4 years 11 months ago

I dont think its “safe to say” LaRussa will be back. Both he and Dave Duncan are in the last year of their deals. I wouldnt be suprised to see a complete overhaul of the Cardinals staff. The survivors might be Dave Mackay, Marty Mason and Jose Oquendo but beyond that who knows.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 11 months ago

I would say it is safe to say LaRussa will be back. The owner is convinced baseball can’t go on in St. Louis if LaRussa isn’t managing the team. This isn’t the first time he’s run a player out of town; it won’t be the last either. It’s what he does. The dirty little secret is that LaRussa can’t manage a player he doesn’t like. Never has; never will. The player always gets the blame too. LaRussa is coated in teflon. It’s safe to say Rasmus will indeed be traded. Which is bad news because the GM has been awful with trades-and when you HAVE to move a player, the teams that want him know this. I suppose they could put Rasmus in the minors until LaRussa leaves, but that would cause a whole new set of problems/hard feelings. I’m sorry if I offend the Cardinal fans; but from the outside looking in, you all have got problems that look like they aren’t going to be solved anytime soon.

4 years 10 months ago

Let’s put it this way- when Alex Gonzalez came to the Braves- he got a standing O just for not being Yunel Escobar.

I suspect Melky will be tossed aside this off-season to boot. Good riddance.

4 years 10 months ago

Let’s put it this way- when Alex Gonzalez came to the Braves- he got a standing O just for not being Yunel Escobar.

I suspect Melky will be tossed aside this off-season to boot. Good riddance.

mstrchef13
4 years 11 months ago

You’re just mad because it involves a player on your team that you like. This website has been dedicated to “guess work” for as long as it’s been around. It’s called mlbtradeRUMORS, not mlbtradeFACTS.

Rasmus asked for a trade, and apparently did so last year as well. He got called out on it publicly and backpedaled so fast the Rams should sign him as a DB. If you aren’t willing to entertain that possibility, then nothing else that ever gets posted here should be worth you reading either.

Sixto_Lezcano
4 years 11 months ago

Nothing warms my heart more than seeing Cardinals fans self-destruct.

stl_cards16
4 years 11 months ago

and that’s why the article is here, I’m not self destructing. if this was most other teams there wouldn’t be an article up about this. But Chicago loves to see a small sample of their own happening in the Lou

4 years 11 months ago

+1,000,000

Seeing the “best fans in baseball” suffer a bit is a guilty pleasure of mine.

bobes6
4 years 11 months ago

How about Rasmus and a pitcher or a minor league SS to Pittsburgh for McCutcheon. He is going to stall in Pittsburgh and it would serve Rasmus right.

Ian_Smell
4 years 11 months ago

Yes, because the Pirate’s sole purpose is to be a purgatory to see whether or not players truly deserve to be in the majors or not.

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 11 months ago

Pittsburgh fans will be at Huntington’s office with pitchforks if he even hints that he’s thinking of trading McCutchen. He is the only thing worth watching in a Pirates uniform. Damn, is he fun too! No. A deal won’t be with Pittsburgh.

4 years 11 months ago

You must have McCutchen confused with all the expensive mediocrity the Pirates have gotten rid of the past couple years. The Pirates have a long-term plan and a guy who could be the next Eric Davis is a huge part of it.

I’m still trying to tell if you’re kidding or not.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

Please tell me you are talking about Daniel McCutchen

bobes6
4 years 11 months ago

McCutcheon and not Daniel is the best prospect to come along here since Bonds. However is is just an average outfielder and the constant losing has already taken it out of him. He is beginning to look disinterested and looks like he wants out . Maybe a new kick butt manager could at least make the Buccos look respectable (like maybe 25 games under .500) and could light a fire under him. They need him to really excel to make a difference. Although subpar at second Neil Walker has been a breath of fresh air along with Tabata and despite all the K’s Alvarez look to be a big RBI guy in the future.

Steve Ferra
4 years 11 months ago

How about the Rays? They’ll have an OF opening next year (yes, Jennings should take Crawford’s place, but RF continues to be a revolving door) and the young talent (especially pitching) to match up in trade.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

the rays were my first choice. jennings+matt moore seems like a fair trade off.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

That would be a horrible attrocious trade off. That would also not make any sense at all. You are making Rasmus seem like Babe Ruth. Matt Moore isn’t going anywhere at all. Sheesh.

4 years 11 months ago

Ferrariman is asking a ton for a guy he apparently doesn’t want on the team anymore. If St. Louis fans are so convinced he’s a clubhouse cancer they need to adjust his value down accordingly, as well as not overpricing him to begin with. You’d think they were dealing Albert himself.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

why don’t i want him on the team anymore? id rather have him on the team 100 times out of a 100 over tony la russa. We don’t have to trade him, which makes his value that much higher.

Jason Arnold
4 years 11 months ago

TLR is the one who needs to go… He has been running good players out of town since his first year here (Ozzie) and has continued since

mrsjohnmiltonrocks
4 years 11 months ago

DING! DING! DING! You, sir, have the correct answer! That is exactly what happens when you are perceived as having to move someone. The vultures circle around the carcass.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

name me 3 centerfielders in the that are OPSing .850, play premium defense, have speed, have power, and are atleast 4 years from free agency.

i’l be waiting here.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

I didn’t realize a -3.9 UZR is premium. And the fact that he is striking out 32.7%of the time and batting .267 with an extremely lucky .342 BABIP means nothing. Mike Cameron with worse defense.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

their you go again with the -3.9 UZR. look at last years. could it be possible that the same metrics that put him as one of the best centerfielders last year, and one of the most averagest centerfielders this year are both 2 halves of the same person? he is probably an above average defensive player but not a 10.2 UZR and definitely not a -3.9.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

I already said we need a 3rd year to figure out if one was a fluke but you still label him a premium defender when all you have is one year to back yourself up. We have no clue. Either year could be a fluke. Heck he could be better than 10.2 or worse than -3.9. But don’t label him a premium defender when the jury isn’t out.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

And you still never addressed the other statistics I brought up.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

ok, i will. he is still slugging .500. he is getting the job done with his power so i can stand the strikeout rates. if you watched some games, you can see that he is a young hitter who is a bit pull happy. thats something people grow out of and learn to develop better contact rates, but even if he doesn’t, il still take the .850OPS out of my centerfielder any day(mike cameron has never had a single season where he OPSed over .837–and that came in a flukish season at age 33, not age 24).

good enough bro? a better comp would probably be Grady Sizemore, lots of power, good speed, too many strikeouts, but still gets the job done with defense and with the bat.

4 years 11 months ago

Since when does CR play such great D? He k’s way to much. Even a down kemp is bette than him, The Rays would be better off seeing what Jennings can do & keep their blue chip pitching.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

he plays above average D. and a down kemp is definitely not better than him, kemp is having a down year batting around .250 with a .310 OBP and BAD BAD defense with lots of K’s in his own right. that isnt’ better than CR by any strech of the imagination

moonraker45
4 years 11 months ago

jennings alone is worth more then rasmus… I don’t get it. . No one is going to overpay for a guy who a team wants to unload and a player who wants to be traded.

The_Porcupine
4 years 11 months ago

Neither of those prospects will be dealt. Consider a trade consisting of 1-2 of Rodriquez, Zobrist, Brignac, and/or Bartlett, plus one of Neiman, Wade Davis, or Shields. Maybe the Rays could pull back an arm for their bullpen.

4 years 11 months ago

you’re on drugs. just shut up.

phoenix88
4 years 11 months ago

call me crazy, but i can see the nationals jumping on this guy and getting him for whoever the Cardinals want who isnt untouchable, then flipping Nyjer Morgan to a team like Oakland or the Indians.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

The Nats’ system isn’t exactly overflowing with top talent.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

Derek Norris and Roger Bernadina for Rasmus? The Nats can afford to lose a catcher. They have Ramos.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

explain why the cardinals would want a catcher.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

Because Yadi won’t be there forever.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

ok..well he will be their until 2013. so what are we gonna do with Derek norris for those 3 years? let him just chill in the minors when we could have gotten someone else that had a more direct impact? makes perfect sense….

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

Ramos is overrated. Miguel Olivo 2.0
Ramos is just holding the seat until Norris gets to the bigs.

4 years 11 months ago

Olivo is solid, so nothing wrong with that.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

Ramos might be the best defensive catcher in the Nationals organization.

melonis_rex
4 years 11 months ago

The A’s already have a copy of Nyjer Morgan, minus the Tony Plush antics. His name is Rajai Davis.

z3rogs
4 years 11 months ago

Ellsbury for Rasmus.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

Ellsbury and which A prospect and B prospect do you want to give up? Do people think before they post?

4 years 11 months ago

You realize Rasmus isn’t Musial, right? He’ll be 24 next year and has a career .774 OPS. Your manager won’t play him and he’s been labeled by your team and it’s fans as a clubhouse cancer. But yet you still want the moon for him. Curious.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

I am not a Cards fan, so you can drop the “you.”

Prospects are prospects, they are not production, and Ellsbury is neither at this point. He may well be considered a negative influence as well in his own clubhouse, but that doesn’t make the two of them equal, not by a long shot. So, therefore, what else should be thrown in?

4 years 11 months ago

How is Ellsbury a negative in his clubhouse? Got anything to back that up?

z3rogs
4 years 11 months ago

Lmao!

Ellsbury’s 2009 season dwarfed Colby’s. This year he would likely have improved again except that he got run over by a truck and busted five ribs. He is still an excellent, highly skilled OF and will prove that in 2011. GM’s know that – why don’t you?

David X
4 years 11 months ago

So Ellsbury’s OPS in his *best* season was .770 … which is below Colby Rasmus’ *career* OPS of .774. And (rightly or wrongly) Ellsbury has a rep for being fragile. AND Ellsbury is three years older.

Try harder. You can do better than that.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

OPS is a terrible stat for non power hitters. Not saying he was right but you can’t use a stat like OPS. Especially since Carl Crawford’s career OPS is .778. I don’t think you put Rasmus at Crawford’s level.

David X
4 years 11 months ago

I do think Crawford is a tad overrated, but yes, Rasmus is not quite at Crawford’s level. Thanks for the tip on OPS (seriously).

4 years 11 months ago

Nevermind the fact that CC’s career ops is weighed down by his 1st 2 season of .661 & .667. He wasn’t ready. After that his ops was over .800 5 of his next healthy seasons. So it is possible for a non power guys to have a ops over .800.

Rasmus has a lot of potential, but not nearly as good as most Cards fans think he is.

z3rogs
4 years 11 months ago

OK,

Rasmus is a career .258 hitter who would approach 200 K in a full season if he ever plays one. His minor league numbers (.277 AVG, .852 OPS) suggest that he plateaued during in the first half of 2010. Perhaps LaRussa is sitting him because he wore out in the second half of 2009 (.216 AVG and OPS of .592 after the break), but it hasn’t really helped this year (.234 AVG and OPS of .684 this go around). LaRussa now says that he plans to play him more down the stretch, and I’m beginning to think the reason is because he intends to expose him.

And OPS isn’t everything. Jacoby scores more runs, steals more bases, is a career .291 hitter, walks more and plays better defense.

I’m not saying that they are exactly equal, but they are close enough that Rasmus is not worth Ellsbury plus two top prospects, because that is just silly.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

what do GM’s know? that Ellsbury had a WAR of like 2.7 in his best season in 2009 which is equal to what rasmus has right now, 2.7?

or that he has a total of 84 PA’s this season? or that he is a boras client? or that he is 3 years older than rasmus? you say that Ellsbury will improve in 2011, but you didn’t say anything about how much rasmus, who is much younger and been in the league less, won’t. that doesn’t make sense. try again.

z3rogs
4 years 11 months ago

You can read my reply above if you want, but I don’t think Colby will improve in 2011. There are no numbers to support that, in fact the first half of 2010 came out of nowhere, easily exceeding his minor league numbers, and now he is fading down the stretch just like he did last year.

4 years 11 months ago

He’d improve over this year because he’d be healthy. JE & CR are similar. So a A prospect would not be needed to get a trade done.

Oh & what does Boras have to do with anything? Player can & do change agents all the time.

Mr__Bill
4 years 11 months ago

I wrote about a potential Ellsbury/Rasmus swap. The problem is that all the negatives seem to come down on Ellsbury’s side – age (27 vs 24), years of team control (3 vs 4), cost (although that is up for debate after this year’s poor performance by Ellsbury), and upside. I think it would be a good deal for the Sox, but I’m not sure if the Cards would bite.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

ellsbury has had a total of 84 PA’s this season. their is almost no gurantee with him, so yeah, its gonna take more than just him alone.

4 years 11 months ago

And there’s a guarantee with Rasmus? He’s been injured in both of his first two years, that sounds like he could possibly be an injury prone player to me. At least Ellsbury is much more proven than Rasmus (I know he has played more seasons). But Ells in his first two seasons was much better than Rasmus has been in his first two seasons.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

we don’t need glassbury. might as well keep rasmus if thats the best were gonna get.

4 years 11 months ago

Glassbury. That’s possibly the best joke I’ve ever heard. I hope you pick up the sarcasm. With the injuries that Rasmus has had as well why don’t you call him Glassmus. In case you didn’t know Hermida also broke his ribs from running into Beltre. Chances are even the most durable players in the game would have broken ribs when taking a knee to the ribs while both players are running at full speed. When two players collide running at full speed it has the equivalent impact of about a 30mph to possibly 50mph car crash or even more.

Yankees420
4 years 11 months ago

Can you provide the calculations on that 30-50 MPH? Just curious.

4 years 11 months ago

When Trent Green in the NFL got knocked out for the season with a concussion it was from getting nailed by a guy running at him and sports science said it was equivalent to a 60 mph car crash. I don’t have a formula but I took back a few notches on the collision since Trent Green was hit by a big linebacker.

4 years 11 months ago

It would be insane for the Cards to trade Rasmus, but if they do I hope the Braves get him. There’s plenty of good talent in the ATL system that would be worth giving up for a guy like him.

dc21892
4 years 11 months ago

The Red Sox would be a really nice spot for him. Huge upside and I wouldn’t mind him in CF for years to come.

MLB_in_the_Know
4 years 11 months ago

Pick any 3 Braves prospects not named Teheran.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 11 months ago

Freeman, Vizcaino, Delgado. You have to be a bit more specific. Those ore 3 of the top 10 Braves prospects.

MLB_in_the_Know
4 years 11 months ago

I left Freeman out, because the Cards have some guy playing 1b…but I would do Viz and Delgado + for Colby.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 11 months ago

Doesn’t matter, they could then in turn flip him and someone else for a closer after Frankiln retires(which I believe he said he will after his contact is up? Correct me if I’m wrong?)

NYBravosFan10
4 years 11 months ago

If Frank Wren gives BOTH Vizcaino and Delgado for Rasmus then I’ll hunt him down and set fire to his toupee and chevy tahoe. How about Delgado (the better of the two) and Mycal Jones?

4 years 11 months ago

i just said that…funny.

Crown_Royal
4 years 11 months ago

Theres no chance Atlanta would trade 3 Top 50 prospects for a guy like Rasmus

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

minor delgado vizcaino :)

theinfamousbartman
4 years 11 months ago

you are absolutely in denial man. get off of rasmus’s weiner.

Yankees420
4 years 11 months ago

Read the question he was answering before replying.

4 years 11 months ago

again, put down the pipe.

4 years 11 months ago

Delgado + B. DeVall

4 years 11 months ago

Why wouldn’t Rasmus want out of St. Louis? LaRussa has some irrational bias against him, Pujols is being holier than thou towards him. Rasmus would be a jewel to almost any other franchise but in St. Louis he’s treated like a first year non-prospect who’s only on the team because there isn’t anyone else better. Someone explain why LaRussa sits him so often, please. We all know Tony is smarter than the rest of us 6-billion plus people on the earth, but why doesn’t he play his best center fielder in center field more often? I’m not talking injuries either, I’m talking platoon. Gotta be tough to see guys like Heyward getting treated fairly and producing when Rasmus produces as well and has to put up with this kind of behavior from a couple of massive egos.

Sixto_Lezcano
4 years 11 months ago

Not sure why the Brewers are on this list. Braun/Hart are both locked in for a few more years, and the Brewers already have *too man* centerfielders to find playing time for (Carlos Gomez, Lorenzo Cain, Chris Dickerson). Obviously, Rasmus would be an upgrade for just about any team, but I don’t see the Brewers going out of their way to get him. Not to mention a Cardinals/Brewers trade isn’t going to happen.

Six_Eight
4 years 11 months ago

Adam Jones for Colby Rasmus!

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

was this a sick joke? adam jones+brian roberts+money maybe.

4 years 11 months ago

Lol, I guess that’s two sick jokes. Properly evaluate players worth much?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 11 months ago

No. Adam Jones in some ways is better or equal to Rasmus. I like that trade straight up.

BentoBox
4 years 11 months ago

No.

Adam Jones:
2009 – .277 /.335/.457
2010 – .276/.317/.441

Colby Rasmus
2009 – .251/.307/.407
2010 – .267/.351/.499

If you prefer “advanced” stats

Adam Jones
2009 – 1.8 WAR/.343 wOBA
2010 – 1.2 WAR/.327 wOBA

Colby Rasmus
2009 – 2.3 WAR/.311 wOBA
2010 – 2.7 WAR/.361 wOBA

4 years 11 months ago

Once again you’re over valuing CR. He is not Joe freakin Dimaggio! Adam Jones is the same age & has had a similar or better career so far.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

i’m not that high on Adam Jones and his weak OBP. he has good speed/power like rasmus and good defense though.

O971
4 years 11 months ago

Would Schafer, Jurjens/Minor, Devall/Bethancourt/Spruill for Rasmus work?

Crown_Royal
4 years 11 months ago

Why in the world would you trade Jurrjens for him whos a #2 SP at worst and locked up for several more years? If Atlanta could get it done for something like Vizcaino or Delgado, Bethancourt, Perez, and there choice of Diaz/Melky/Hernandez/Conrad to fill one of there roster spots then id say go for it but we arent any better of a team if we trade Jurrjens, Hanson, or Minor

4 years 10 months ago

Jurrjens is likely going to be the extra wheel when the superpitching prospects come up in 2012. Braves can get by with a rotation of Hanson/Hudson/Lowe/Minor/Beachy, and get Medlen to come back in September. If really necessary they can 1-yr rental a SP or maybe rush Teheran.

I’d offer Beachy before Jurrjens, but if it took Jurrjens, so be it.

Let’s put it this way: the braves can afford to lose a SP and not panic. The Braves don’t have 2 major-league quality OFs, let alone 3.

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

JJ or MM in that deal would be a huge overpayment.

4 years 11 months ago

Ryan Braun for Rasmus, Shelby Miller, and another pitching prospect?

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

i could do this. but i don’t know how well braun can play right field. (jon jay shifts over to center).

4 years 11 months ago

Of course you would it’s a HUGE overpay for Rasmus.

4 years 11 months ago

The Brewers aren’t going to trade Braun for Rasmus + others unless there’s more quality and quantity.

The_Porcupine
4 years 11 months ago

How would the Cards be able to afford Braun, Pujols, Holliday, Carpenter and Wainwright?

Yankees420
4 years 11 months ago

Holliday is already in their budget, Braun isn’t paid too much until ’12/’13 and beyond, the team has club options on both Carp and Waino past ’11 and can you really see them not resigning Pujols?

The_Porcupine
4 years 11 months ago

That is like 100 million in 5 players. When has St. Louis ever had a payroll like that.

4 years 11 months ago

since he’s generating so much interest, the Jays probably won’t get him. Even with him falling out of favour, looks like too many teams will go after him, driving his price too high. Good timing for the story though. Could drive down the price of Werth and Crawford seeing that there’s a cheaper option out there.

InTheKZone
4 years 11 months ago

I never thought about that but you very well could be right.

MasterDave
4 years 11 months ago

Here’s an idea, and I say this as a %100 lifelong Cardinals fan:

Trade Albert Pujols. Exercise the option, cash out. Lets face it, the amount of money he’s going to demand is not going to work out. You don’t win when you’re loading your payroll with 5 good players and 20 mediocre ones, just ask the Mets how that’s been working out. So we’re all set to have Pujols make 25 million and keep on picking up guys off the scrap heap like Randy Winn? Okay! Wait! I’d like to give Wainright the raise he deserves, give Carpenter to another team for a couple of prospects and ship Pujols to whatever team is willing to work out the best 3 or 4-way trade to empty the farm system next year in order to win NOW. Oh and this is all with the upfront idea that LaRussa will not be around next year. I’d like to get Joe Girardi from the Yankees (assuming they don’t re-sign him when they get bounced in the first round of the playoffs this year) or some other manager that’s good at maybe keeping the same damn lineup when it’s a productive lineup. CLEARLY the way LaRussa does it has a minimal effect on success compared to just throwing your best 8 guys out there, so why are we pissing off young cheap players at the expense of (ugh) expensive veterans who are going to hold the entire franchise ransom in 12 months?

So yeah. I haven’t liked Pujols attitude this year at all, I’m pretty sure he’s going to demand 1/4 of the entire payroll of the team (otherwise he’d have tried to work out a deal already so the Cards could have added more than pure shit at the trade deadline) and it makes zero sense to trade away a young guy who has the potential to be the best CF in the league in a couple of years when he gets consistent playing time.

The_Porcupine
4 years 11 months ago

Will never happen. You could never get decent value for Pujols (who has the prospects and money to acquire him other than the Yankees and Red Sox? There would be no way to leverage a quality package of players).

4 years 11 months ago

Atlanta has the prospects. The money? Nope.

Hanson + Freeman + Teheran + Betancourt for Pujols?

lol

now I need to put down the pipe.

4 years 10 months ago

Make that Lowe+Delgado+Freeman+Kawakami+McLouth+Dunn for Pujols+Rasmus it might work.

4 years 11 months ago

There’s not a team in the game that wouldn’t be interested in Colby Rasmus. A young player under club control for four more years, with speed, power, an OBP of .350, OPS of .850 and plays solid defense at a premium position, with the numbers to play a corer OF spot….. what’s not to like?
Pick any prospect in the Tiger organization on the farm. Bar none. That’ll save us from spending $ 15 million a year on Crawford or Werth.

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

gonna take more than just 1 bro lol.

RedbirdRuffian
4 years 11 months ago

If Cards are smart they will dump him while he still has value cause this guy could turn into the next Milton Bradley. Good hitter, too many defensive mental errors, unwilling to take responsibility + clubhouse cancer. Who does that remind you of? A’s have a couple of young corner outfielders one of whom they may give up for a Rasmus. Taylor or Carter – lots of potential either way.

Guest
4 years 11 months ago

He isn’t a clubhouse cancer, he just wants to play and should be playing…

Ferrariman
4 years 11 months ago

what are you ranting about? he had a 10.2UZR last season, so much for those mental errors, and has been pretty good this season. he isn’t a clubhouse cancer at all, he just want his fair share of playing time and not lose it to 2nd strings like Nick Stavinoha and Randy Winn for no apparent reasons.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

UZR has his defense at -3.9 this year. We need another year to figure out which year is the statistical fluke.

Mr__Bill
4 years 11 months ago

You know, you don’t have to look at them as separate seasons and it probably doesn’t make sense to look at them separately given that defensive stats can fluctuate wildly. Over his career in CF Rasmus has been slightly above average according to John Dewan’s +/- and UZR. Granted, that doesn’t provide tons of ammunition for Ferrariman’s assertions that Rasmus is a deity, nor your assertions that he’s not that great. Right now he’s a pretty good player – with all the Ks and the increased walk rate he kind of reminds me of Mike Cameron, but with a hell of a lot of upside.

jwredsox
4 years 11 months ago

I realize that but if he is going to Rasmus is a premium defender based on his 1st season I can say he isn’t based on this season. I have been saying that the jury isn’t out on his defense and we need another year. But Mike Cameron is who I compare Rasmus to also.

4 years 11 months ago

Is Rasmus the clubhouse cancer or is Tony? Apparently Rasmus just want’s to play, which his productivity would dictate that he should play. Tony, on the other hand, doesn’t see it that way. Albert is piling on. When did it become a crime to want to play? If you realized that your manager wasn’t playing you for no apparent reason other than the voices in his head telling him not to play you wouldn’t you want out too?

sacu
4 years 11 months ago

As an A’s fan, you can have either one of those guys +Wuertz/Ziegler+Mazzaro, deal?

sacu
4 years 11 months ago

the above post should have been a reply to another post, sorry.