Dodgers Sign Juan Uribe

Juan Uribe is leaving the Giants for the rival Dodgers on the first multiyear free agent deal of his career.  The infielder officially signed a three-year, $21MM contract with the Dodgers today.

Uribe, 31, hit .248/.310/.440 with 24 home runs in 575 plate appearances for the Giants this year, adding a pair of postseason home runs.  He mainly played shortstop, but also logged time at third base and second base.  Uribe will presumably serve as the Dodgers' second baseman with Rafael Furcal in the fold at short.  The contract may seal Ryan Theriot's fate, with Thursday's non-tender deadline looming.  Another effect may be a heightened sense of urgency for the Giants as they search for a shortstop.  Uribe is a Type B free agent who was offered arbitration by the Giants, so they'll receive a supplemental draft pick for their loss.

Uribe's agents Barry Praver and Scott Shapiro engineered the deal.  They did well in getting three years, though Uribe was a hot commodity in a weak market for middle infielders.  On November 2nd, MLBTR correctly predicted Uribe would sign with the Dodgers.

ESPN's Buster Olney first reported that a three-year deal was close, while Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweeted the amount and agreement.


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307 Comments on "Dodgers Sign Juan Uribe"


4 years 8 months ago

He made out quite well. 3 years for 21 million..

HipNip2009
4 years 8 months ago

Yes, he did, and his agents took advantage of a weak market.

KeithD
4 years 8 months ago

Way to plan for the future, L.A. !

ATL_Mindset
4 years 8 months ago

Advantage, Uribe

KeithD
4 years 8 months ago

BOOribe!

BlueLA
4 years 8 months ago

once again Flanders being given a open checkbook by McCourt is a dangerous thing!

manoli99
4 years 8 months ago

Just what “Blue Crew” needed! A power infield bat! This is big for LA. Now on to left field, Thrid base & Catcher?

gigantes2425
4 years 8 months ago

You can take his bat out of the equation now. He’s facing better pitching now in the west. He dsnt do anything against the padres last year and he won’t hit more then 1 against the giants. He had a better chance going to another team.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

Wishful thinking. The Giants do have an incredible rotation, but the Dodgers are really not that far behind. Every single pitcher in the Dodgers rotation is capable of putting up an ERA of 3.50 or better and 200 IP.

MJ
4 years 8 months ago

LOL! “not far behind” hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. not far behind the pirates maybe. doyer rotation blows major chunks. noone in that rotation besides kershaw would crack the giants starting 5 and kershaw would be 4th starter.

4 years 8 months ago

Tim Lincecum, 2010: ERA 3.43, OBA .242, WHIP 1.27Matt Cain, 2010: ERA 3.14, OBA .221, WHIP 1.08Jonathan Sanchez, 2010: ERA 3.07, OBA .204, WHIP 1.23Barry Zito, 2010: ERA 4.15, OBA .250, WHIP 1.34Clayton Kershaw, 2010: ERA 2.91, OBA .214, WHIP 1.18Chad Billingsley, 2010: ERA 3.57, OBA .244, WHIP 1.28Hiroki Kuroda, 2010: ERA 3.39, OBA .243, WHIP 1.16Ted Lilly, 2010: ERA 3.62, OBA .229, WHIP 1.08What were you saying again?

MJ
4 years 8 months ago

funny how you chose to cherry-pick those stats. you want to cherry pick stats? ok then.

guess who the top line is

RA/G ERA G CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB SO WHIP SO/9
3.6 3.36 162 6 17 57 1461 1279 583 546 134 578 1331 1.299 6.77
4.27 4.01 162 4 16 41 1441.2 1323 692 643 134 539 1274 1.319 7.39

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

Seriously dude? Every guy they’ve got is better than Zito, even Garland.

Kershaw posted a better ERA in 2010 than anybody on the Giants staff.

Sanchez finally put it together in 2010, but the guy’s been widely inconsistent throughout his career. And Bumgarner hasn’t even pitched a full season yet.

I’d give the Giants an edge, but it isn’t that huge. Don’t get too cocky, your team barely squeezed by a collapsing Padres for the NL West, and Brooks Conrad may be the only reason you won the NLDS.

KeithD
4 years 8 months ago

Funny…we just barely squeezed by the collapsing Padres, the bumbling Braves, the fizzling Phillies, and the rickety Rangers. Guess it was an accident that we WON THE WORLD SERIES!!

4 years 8 months ago

hey the giants still won the world series as apposed to what the 4th place dodgers

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

You’s a crazy mother f, Kershaw would be #2 easily. He has the potential to be better than lincecum.

4 years 8 months ago

Ok now you’re smoking crack. While Kershaw is good he will NEVER be better than Lincecum.

4 years 8 months ago

Dude, Kershaw is already pitching better than Lincecum was at the same age — he’ll be in his age 23 year *next* season. Tim is entering his age 27 year!

link to baseball-reference.com

link to baseball-reference.com

That’s not to take anything away from Lincecum — he’s awesome, and I wish he were on the Dodgers. But Kershaw is legit.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

Kershaw was better than Lincecum last season. Look at the numbers.

khines50
4 years 8 months ago

I’m with “M Brown”, the dodgers have the fourth best pitching staff in the NL West!!! So I’d say that they are not far behind the Rockies…

khines50
4 years 8 months ago

I’m with “M Brown”, the dodgers have the fourth best pitching staff in the NL West!!! So I’d say that they are not far behind the Rockies…

HipNip2009
4 years 8 months ago

Love is blind…..bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !! You left out one little factoid – he didn’t have to face the Giants rotation. And, he strikes out a lot, and it’s feast or famine with him. He’s definitely not worth 3 years, $21 million. You’ll see.

gigantes2425
4 years 8 months ago

Their rotation is way different from last year. Uribe didn’t face them. He’s going to realize he made a mistake when the giants staff makes him look stupid. And he’ll find out that timmys changeup isn’t just a myth.

4 years 8 months ago

Wasnt he in the west last year? Last time I checked, the Giants moved from New York and became part of the NL west in ’58..

HipNip2009
4 years 8 months ago

What did they win with a bigger bat, Jeff Kent?

KeithD
4 years 8 months ago

Ha Ha Ha!

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

I think Russ will be our answer for catcher.

Max Jackson
4 years 8 months ago

Uribe was given 3 years out of an infield market bell-curve that leaned in his favor. I bet Coletti didn’t want to sign him for 3 years either, but the alternatives for proven veteran infielders are in short supply this year. It goes to show how much the Dodgers needed to fill that hole in the lineup. Uribe’s infield flexibility also provides welcome gaps for up-and-comers.

BlueLA
4 years 8 months ago

agreed, Uribe was finally in the right place at the right time and his ability to play 3b,SS, and 2b with power and good “d” is a plus it’s I just hate the 3rd year and I’m very worried that there is a crap-load of deferred money in this deal.

Max Jackson
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, I know. Hopefully, that’s not the case but history would say it is. The Dodgers defer so much money year after year to invisible teammates that they should have blow-up doll in the dugout as a salary mascot.

mrcourt123
4 years 8 months ago

Too much money that would have been better spent on an impact bat, but he’s a much better option than what the Dodgers were working with. I wonder how many years Colletti spread this deal over. If I know Colletti, Uribe will be collecting checks from the McCourts until he’s 40.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

If Dunn would’ve taken $30/3 years than yes, the money would’ve been better spent there. I suppose it depends how the off-season plays out…

Meatball1
4 years 8 months ago

Over/Under 1.5 home runs against Giants Pitching next season?

55saveslives
4 years 8 months ago

Can’t wait to see Dodger fans justify this! :)

Thanks Juan for getting us the trophy…now enjoy the dodgers rewarding you for it!!

WagsFromLB
4 years 8 months ago

The 3rd year is the unjustifiable part. I figured 2/12 would be the max.

Grab some pine, meat.
4 years 8 months ago

Hopefully we make out with someone good for our supplemental. Now when he comes to at&t it wont just sound like one long “Boo,” it will be… BOOOOOO-Ribe

HummBaby
4 years 8 months ago

I still have a hard time believing he’s 31 years old. I’m guessing more like 37. Gotta love the fake birth certificate’s.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

The price is right if he can match numbers from 2004 and 2009.

Terms are right if he can do it 3 years in a row.

I’d say the odds aren’t in the Doggies favor.

But thanks for the draft pick!

4 years 8 months ago

agreed hes good for 2-3 war= worth the contract.

WagsFromLB
4 years 8 months ago

You didn’t get the pick from the Dodgers. It’s a supplemental pick you would have got either way regardless of who signed him

dproukno
4 years 8 months ago

Which is why isabradley is saying thank you for the pick … because he was signed

xfipMachine
4 years 8 months ago

They only overpaid by like 15 million. Good for them.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

Furcal and Blake are both free agents after 2011, so I don’t think the Dodgers had a problem with the additional years for a player that can also play SS and 3B.

And if he’s actually 31, he could be very solid over the next 3 seasons.

If you’re saying they overpaid by $2m/year, perhaps… but I don’t think it is a terrible contract. Polanco got $18m/3 years last off-season, and he was a couple years older than Uribe.

4 years 8 months ago

Wow, sox fans are bitter today too? If you think Uribe is worth 3 years and 6 million… something tells me you are not Theo Epstein. Hows your search for a SS going?

4 years 8 months ago

FYI, The Sox aren’t in search of a SS they have Scutaro and Lowrie at the position. Plus a hard kid waiting in the minors.

4 years 8 months ago

I heard they were shopping Scutaro. Im not a big red sox fan, so I really dont care anyways. Lowrie is pretty good, but isnt he a little unproven?

myname_989
4 years 8 months ago

Dodgers fans are going to be disappointed by this signing. Right up there with John Buck’s deal for the worst so far, in my opinion.

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

I think Benoit is worse than either of them.

myname_989
4 years 8 months ago

I’m kind of on the fence about Benoit. We’ll throw it up there anyway. Lol

$1529282
4 years 8 months ago

Benoit needs to replicate his 2010 each year for the next three seasons to justify the amount of that contract, and that’s just not happening. $16.5M for him was flat out absurd. I thought MLB GMs had finally learned that overpaying for relievers just isn’t smart… guess not.

No signing all season, no matter how bad, will be as senseless as the Benoit one. When was the last time a reliever finished up a multiyear free agent deal and you said “Wow that worked out well!”…?

myname_989
4 years 8 months ago

I thought that three years was too much, but the Tigers may not have made a bad investment, money wise. I think what the Tigers really wanted was insurance for Jose Valverde and a dominant eigth inning guy, and I think they got the guy that fits perfectly for their club in Joaquin Benoit. He was one of the more attractive righthanders on the market not named Rafael Soriano.

I do agree though, $16.5MM is a lot to commit to a non-closer reliever, but I don’t think the Tigers had much choice. With the way he pitched in 2010, Benoit probably deserved to earn about 6MM a year. The Tigers have money to spend, and they wanted to get their guy. The reason I see the Uribe and Buck signings as worse than the Benoit deal is because of the financial limitations, etc. that their respective teams have going forward.

In the long run, I think that the Marlins will regret giving Buck $18MM and the Dodgers will regret giving Uribe $21MM more than the Tigers will regret giving Benoit $16.5MM. With other variables aside, yes, it’s certainly not an ideal contract. However, I think the Tigers will benefit from the stability that Benoit will bring to their bullpen. Out of the three, I think he’s most likely to repeat his 2010 success, so while it’s bad, I don’t think its’ the worst.

Kind of hard to explain my thinking. That’s why I’m “on the fence.” Lol

Meatball1
4 years 8 months ago

BOOOOOOO-ribe

melonis_rex
4 years 8 months ago

3/21? But that was Brian Sabean’s job!

Although, on a serious note, wouldn’t it have been awesome to have DeWitt now for the league minimum, who’s got a better OBP AND probably can field better than this guy and use the cash for Manny’s replacement.

4 years 8 months ago

Dewitts also the league minimum in power, something the Dodgers desperately needed, especially in the infield.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

aaaaaand I don’t think DeWitt can field better than Uribe. DeWitt certainly can’t play SS. DeWitt’s strength is 3B, not 2B.

Guest
4 years 8 months ago

I still rather have Dewitt

4 years 8 months ago

I was a huge Dewitt fan.. but Id rather have Uribe.

Dwan
4 years 8 months ago

lol 21 million for a career 300 OBP.

WagsFromLB
4 years 8 months ago

21 is a bit high but 7 mil a year for 24 homers and strong defense at 2b is hardly a terrible signing. It’s an obvious upgrade over Theriot and his 660 ops

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

and flexibility to play ss/3b in a pinch, especially with fragile furcal over there at ss. good fit in dodgerland, and this coming from a giants fan.
good pass-up by sabean; but now can we get hardy/nishioka from the twins for cheaper? i also think a non-tendered theriot could be a solid fit at at&t park batting 8th.

SmackSaw
4 years 8 months ago

The guy hits .250 with 20 bombs at 2B. He can play multiple positions and has a cannon for an arm. He’s the same as Uggla except he can field. If the Dodgers got Uggla everyone would be singing Ned’s praises.

Meatball1
4 years 8 months ago

Uggla’s career .837 OPS is much better than BOoOoOoO-ribe’s at .731

Dwan
4 years 8 months ago

he’s the same as Uggla lol

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Dan Uggla: Avg .287HR 33 RBI 105 Runs 100 SB 4

Juan Uribe: Avg .248 HR 24 RBI 85 Runs 64 SB 1

Really?

SmackSaw
4 years 8 months ago

He’s a better fielder. On defense in 2010 he made just nine errors, while playing three different positions shortstop, second base and third. 997 to .980. Uribe won’t K 150 times. He’s versatile. He’s less expensive. He’s better than Theriot.

Uggla strikes out too much, especially for a middle infielder. His glove is embarrassing. How much is he gonna cost the Braves? More than 7 per.

Jay Patel
4 years 8 months ago

Can someone check UZR for the fielding and WAR for how many wins were effected…Uggla has proven to hit though Uribe will probably hit .250 with 20+ HRs while Uggla will probably hit 25+ with .270 avg….only advantage is Uribe is a better defender at SS,2B, and 3B while Uggla is a 2B and below Avg defender

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

with a runner on first with less than two outs, i prefer the 150-ks-but-able-to-work-the-count-to-get-a-fat-fastball to the undisciplined grounder-to-ss. batter strikeouts are only bad when the pitcher doesn’t have to throw a strike to get an out. notorious k-ers like adam dunn, jim thome, ryan howard, uggla are patient enough to force the pitcher to throw strikes, there’s just no guarantee they’ll make contact when their pitch comes.

alex rodriguez k’s close to 150 times per year. surely you don’t dismiss his production so quickly.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

You said “he’s the same as Uggla except he can field”.

Kinda sounds like you were referring to him as being equal offensively which he clearly is not.

4 years 8 months ago

Same as Uggla? Check yourself before you wreck yourself..263/.349/.488 does not equal .256/.300/.431. Now granted Uribe can glove but that’s a huge slash difference. Plus Uggla’s a year younger.

4 years 8 months ago

Hes no Dan Uggla, but I get what you are saying.

HowdIGetHere
4 years 8 months ago

Are you serious? Uggla hits 30+ HR a year. Uribe has eclipsed 20 four times in his career. Uggla is an entirely different class of player. To call them the same is just plain delusional.

SmackSaw
4 years 8 months ago

You’re right. Uribe can catch, throw and won’t K 150 times.

HowdIGetHere
4 years 8 months ago

Yes, Uribe plays better defense. I get it. I still don’t think you will find anyone to agree that he is a better baseball player than Dan Uggla, or even on the same level. I mean, “the same as Uggla except he can field” implies they are equal offensively, which just isn’t true. Yes Uggla Ks a lot, but it’s not like Uribe is a paragon of patience at the plate.

4 years 8 months ago

Strikeouts don’t mean jack-diddly-shit if you’re Juan Uribe, the one-tooled wonder. You’re delusional if you think Juan “.300 OBP” Uribe is better than Dan Uggla.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

Dude what are you smoking… the offense isn’t the same. The defense isn’t the same. Even the money isn’t the same… Get off the pipe.

dawgpaddlez
4 years 8 months ago

haven’t seen theirot really play…how is he..would he be serviceable as a utility man

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

He’d be fine as a utility guy, but in no way worth the ~$3m he’d get through arbitration. If he is non-tendered as he should be, he’d be a decent utility option.

4 years 8 months ago

Not to the Dodgers.. we have Jamey Carroll still.

Bye Bye Baby Bonanza
4 years 8 months ago

BOOOO-REEBAY!

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 8 months ago

Will be regretted by the 2012 All-Star break. Bet me on it.

4 years 8 months ago

When the Giants are back in 4th? I gurantee that will happen before 2012.

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

giants need a ss, i get that. but they don’t need a $7m-per-year aging juan uribe. i’m the last person to defend sabean but this was the right move.and fellow giants fans, chill out! bill neukom is a studly owner. he opened the checkbook to get jose guillen, cody ross, and bullpen help last year when it mattered. not all the moves worked but he was open to risking some financial loss. he approved the huff overpayments. sabean has the support of ownership to go overbudget, so don’t see this as the end and we’re stuck with mark derosa at ss. there will be a new ss, and it might be jj hardy, ryan theriot, or even a blockbuster deal for a scutaro/jose reyes. i personally prefer hardy plus theriot and allow bochy the flexibility to play the hotter hand, but point being we can probably get two serviceable ss options in here for $7m per year and uribe really isn’t irreplaceable. yes, the exact line of .240-20-80 will be hard to replace but maybe you get .270-15-70 or .290-10-50-25stl instead.

greggh
4 years 8 months ago

Hey, Giants’ fans: a month ago, Uribe was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now, he’s an overpriced bum? Sounds like sour grapes. Meanwhile, the Giants REALLY overpaid for Aubrey Huff. Two years/$22MM? And the Dodgers helped bid up his price so the Giants would have little left to spend on Uribe. Betcha Uribe puts up better numbers next season than either Huff or the human beachball playing 3rd base for Frisco.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Never heard a Giants fan say “Uribe was the greatest thing since sliced bread”. If you read the Giants MLB board most people wanted to see him resigned SHORT TERM. He was pretty clutch for the Giants but no one is under the illusion that he’s Dan Uggla or anything.
Sure, there’s some sour grapes because he went to the Dodgers but all in all Giants fans are in agreement with the overwhelming majority of fans from around the country on this forum…3/21 is too much for too long.

4 years 8 months ago

The problem with this is that Uribe was one of your bigger power guys. I have to admit, that 3 years is a bit much, but I think he will earn his contract. I have mentioned it before, but I see Tejada going to San Fran. You guys are losing Renteria as well..

I was teasing about the 4th place thing, but there is alot of parity in this division. Taking power away from the Giants is a good thing for us, and when you consider that power is coming here…. even better. The combined offense for 2nd baseman for my Dodgers last year, was atrocious. Ill admit, that Uribe is not the most attractive 2nd baseman, but he fills a huge need for us.

4 years 8 months ago

Giants fans, dont forget about a full season with Cody Ross, his numbers last year were .269 14HR 65RBI, but dont forget about the year before .270 24HR 90RBIs, he can easily replay Uribe .248 24HR 85RBIs, he is as clutch or more clutch.

4 years 8 months ago

Giants fans, dont forget about a full season with Cody Ross, his numbers last year were .269 14HR 65RBI, but dont forget about the year before .270 24HR 90RBIs, he can easily replay Uribe .248 24HR 85RBIs, he is as clutch or more clutch.

4 years 8 months ago

Because all of our pitching will fall apart.

Yeah….

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

You realize that “before 2012 means” next season right?

The Giants proved that they can win 92 games with a below average offense. Next season you will see a full season of Bumgarner and an improved J. Sanchez. And you’re saying they’ll end up behind Colorado, L.A. and Arizona or San Diego in the NL West?
Ha. Are you the same guy saying that Uribe is the same player as Dan Uggla? Good luck with that guarantee.

4 years 8 months ago

Whoa… yes I actually do. Counting was one of the first things I ever learned.

“The Giants proved that they can win 92 games with a below average offense.”

An offense that just got worse.

“Next season you will see a full season of Bumgarner and an improved J. Sanchez.”

Id take Hiroki Kuroda and a full season of Ted Lilly over Bumgarner and Sanchez. In fact, you can expect an improved Kershaw and Billingsley as well, since we are playing that game.

“And you’re saying they’ll end up behind Colorado, L.A. and Arizona or San Diego in the NL West?”

Alright.. Ill give the jints a little credit. Your probably better than Az or SD, third sounds a little more accurate.

” Are you the same guy saying that Uribe is the same player as Dan Uggla?”

I suggest you go back and read a little more.

“Good luck with that guarantee.”

I love little blessings from Jints fans.. Good luck staying out of fourth.

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

“I love little blessings from Jints fans.. Good luck staying out of fourth. ”

As an impartial observer, I find this statement hilarious. Somewhere out there, there’s a Mariners fan trying to instigate a pissing contest with a Rangers fan and losing very soundly if your statement is any indication. Between you and that Oakland fan the other day, Giants fans sure have been getting a nice dose of laughable sour grapes of late.

4 years 8 months ago

Zito is better than Lilly and Kuroda. The last three in the Dodgers rotations are mehh at best. Bumgarner is a stud!

4 years 8 months ago

Im glad you think so, how nice it must be to have an original thought.. you got any stats to back that up Jint boy?

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

2010 world championships
giants: 1
dodgers: 0

expected 2010 nl west championships
dodgers: 1
giants: 0

are these the stats you’re asking for? everything else doesn’t matter.

4 years 8 months ago

Hey Johnny Come Lately, Im glad you joined the party. How about 5 world series Championships in the last 50 years for us, compared to your one. Those arent the stats you were looking for either, were they.

And the only reason you won, was that hideous growth on Brian Wilsons face. I wouldnt be able to hit him either…

d2sipes
4 years 8 months ago

You sound like a stupid raider fan, living in the past. Always talking about championships you never saw. The reason you wouldnt be able to hit Wilson’s pitching is because you arent good enough to make it to the bigs. Grow up little boy, remember, YOU did not win anything.

4 years 8 months ago

I think the Faiders are a little closer to you bud.. I was alive for three of these championships sooo.. I dont get your point. Little boy eh? I just let you live with your stupidity on that one.. theres alot of things you can say about me, and little isnt one of them.. I guess YOU didnt win anything either, did you..

d2sipes
4 years 8 months ago

I dont claim victory on my behalf unlike the ghetto faider trash. dont bother me loser.

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

2010 world championships
giants: 1
dodgers: 0

expected 2010 nl west championships
dodgers: 1
giants: 0

are these the stats you’re asking for? everything else doesn’t matter.

4 years 8 months ago

Zito is better than [some pitchers, but not] Lily and Kuroda. The last three in the Dodgers’ rotation are [very good for what they are]. Bumgarner [isn’t as good as he was during the playoffs, and has the propensity to lose his fastball velocity]

im a copy editor!!!!

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

C’mon guy! Zito isn’t better than anyone one from our rotation. Bumgarner is whatevs.

4 years 8 months ago

“An offense that just got worse.”
Not really, a healthy Mark Derosa coming back (LF or SS), full season of Buster Posey and Cody Ross. And maybe a trade deal for JJ Hardy. How is that worse that last year? On paper it’s a much better offense than last year. Also now we don’t have a guy who always swings at the first pitch.

“Id take Hiroki Kuroda and a full season of Ted Lilly over Bumgarner and Sanchez.”
I’d take Bumgarner over both Kuroda or Lilly, but not so sure about Sanchez I’ll have to give you that one.

And where did the Dodgers come in 2010? 4th… do I think the Dodgers come in 4th again? No, but 3rd or 2nd is more like it.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

“An offense that just got worse.”

Wrong. A full season of Posey and Ross will make up for Uribe alone.

“Id take Hiroki Kuroda and a full season of Ted Lilly over Bumgarner and Sanchez.”

As Dodgers fans worldwide breath a sigh of relief that you aren’t their GM.
I mean seriously. Sanchez has improved every year, is among K leaders year in and year out and Bumgarner is a 21 year old that showed what he’s capable of at the highest level in the WS and looked like a seasoned vet doing it.

“I love little blessings from Jints fans.. Good luck staying out of fourth.”

O.K. here’s one more then. Since the Giants just won the World Series and the Dodgers were the ones in… you guessed it, 4th place let me be the one to wish you luck on staying out of 4th place. Looks like you need it a little more than us.

4 years 8 months ago

Hey, I dont need any more angry Giants fans.

I was just simply responding, with what I thought was humor, to a very open ended comment about the Dodgers regretting this move by AS break ’12. I actually thought the Giants winning the series was a good thing for baseball. But Im a Dodger fan, so if I have a chance to make a stupid comment, to a stupid comment made to me, Im gonna take it. Now as far as the pitching staffs go, we’ll argue to the death about whose better. Theyre both among the best in baseball. My saying that the Dodgers having a better staff than the Giants, is no knock on the Giants which is definitley one of the best in baseball.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Fair enough. I can appreciate where you’re coming from. But can you honestly say that you believe that the Dodgers rotation may be better than the Giants?
Kershaw, Billingsly, Kuroda, Lilly and Garland
vs.
Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Bumgarner and Zito

as a starting 5?

And is there a team out there that would rather face Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez and Bumgarner than Kershaw, Billingsly, Kuroda and Lilly or Garland in a playoff series?

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

I think it is a toss up, just because of how inconsistent guys like Billingsley and Sanchez have been, and even Lincecum had his share of struggles in 2010.

Kershaw was arguably better than anyone in the Giants rotation last season, so I certainly wouldn’t disregard that. Billingsley has Cain/Lincecum quality stuff when he is on.

And when you get to the bottom 3 of Kuroda/Lilly/Garland vs. Sanchez/Bumgarner/Zito, it is pretty close. If Kuroda, Lilly and Garland are consistent with their 2010 numbers, I think they best the inconsistent Sanchez and Zito and the sophomore Bumgarner. Though Sanchez and Bumgarner definitely have more upside.

4 years 8 months ago

Lincecum only struggled in August.

4 years 8 months ago

and May. His numbers throughout the season were off his normal pace. Im not too worried about him though, if I were a Giants fan. he was his normal dominant self, thru Sept and Oct.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

You can’t compare Billingsley to Cain or Lincecum. Maybe to Sanchez, but Cain and Lincecum are way better. You can’t say Cain is inconsistent because he constantly pitches well. Him not getting offense is not inconsistency on his part. Lincecum only struggled when he changed his pitching mechanics. He reverted back to his older style and was dominant again. Look up on it. I’m not doubting Kershaw’s skill either, but I wouldn’t even be close to say he’s better than everyone on the Giants rotation because he barely has 2 good (not great) seasons while he wasn’t ace stuff his rookie season. Lincecum was dominant from his debut.

thegrayrace
4 years 8 months ago

I think it is a toss up, just because of how inconsistent guys like Billingsley and Sanchez have been, and even Lincecum had his share of struggles in 2010.

Kershaw was arguably better than anyone in the Giants rotation last season, so I certainly wouldn’t disregard that. Billingsley has Cain/Lincecum quality stuff when he is on.

And when you get to the bottom 3 of Kuroda/Lilly/Garland vs. Sanchez/Bumgarner/Zito, it is pretty close. If Kuroda, Lilly and Garland are consistent with their 2010 numbers, I think they best the inconsistent Sanchez and Zito and the sophomore Bumgarner. Though Sanchez and Bumgarner definitely have more upside.

4 years 8 months ago

I think we will see.. its going to be very close. Honestly speaking.. I think Kershaw and Lincecum are both in that top-tier. Kershaw was as good as anybody in the second half last year. With Timmies dropping velocity, Id have to take Kershaw. Cain and Billingsley.. alright Cains better, but not by a rediculous amount. Bills is my favorite guy in baseball, so thats saying alot. I will take Kuroda over Sanchez, yes. Sanchez is improving, no doubt about it, but Id still take Hiro. Sanchez Ks more, but Kuroda walks half as many guys. Bumgarner? I actually love this kid. Same as Posey. Id love to have them here.. But he is going to take his lumps, and going into 2011, I’d take Lilly, simply because he has been in the league alot longer. He was quite a dominant presence for us last year, but we couldnt score him runs. (same goes for cain and Bills too.) A WHIP of 0.991 says how good he was. Garland and Zito is another good match-up, and goes to whoever has the better stuff that day. Its going to be a tough division, either way. there’s pitching all over the west.

sojuboi
4 years 8 months ago

I like your comparisons. Actually putting some logic into your post as opposed to other Dodgers fans here.

4 years 8 months ago

I think we will see.. its going to be very close. Honestly speaking.. I think Kershaw and Lincecum are both in that top-tier. Kershaw was as good as anybody in the second half last year. With Timmies dropping velocity, Id have to take Kershaw. Cain and Billingsley.. alright Cains better, but not by a rediculous amount. Bills is my favorite guy in baseball, so thats saying alot. I will take Kuroda over Sanchez, yes. Sanchez is improving, no doubt about it, but Id still take Hiro. Sanchez Ks more, but Kuroda walks half as many guys. Bumgarner? I actually love this kid. Same as Posey. Id love to have them here.. But he is going to take his lumps, and going into 2011, I’d take Lilly, simply because he has been in the league alot longer. He was quite a dominant presence for us last year, but we couldnt score him runs. (same goes for cain and Bills too.) A WHIP of 0.991 says how good he was. Garland and Zito is another good match-up, and goes to whoever has the better stuff that day. Its going to be a tough division, either way. there’s pitching all over the west.

4 years 8 months ago

Cody Ross isn’t very good at all, bro.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Last season’s right field consisted of John Bowker (now in Pirates MiLB system) followed by stopgaps and ending in a worn out J. Guillen. Didn’t say he was great, just that he’s an upgrade.

gornie
4 years 8 months ago

i’ve been getting slammed for making that same point. cody ross is not the offensive force that he was in the 2010 postseason but he was a huge inprovement over crap like john bowker and, i hate to say it but it’s so true, crap like mark derosa and aaron rowand. the simple fact that cody ross is that much of an improvement to a team is proof that sabean doesn’t know offense. but he lucked into a championship and god forever bless him for that because i’m a lifelong giants fan. i’m just saying that many other general managers wouldn’t have had this many chances to right the ship.that said, huff is overpaid but only because bill neukom signed off on going overbudget. and ross and guillen and javy lopez and ramirez and fontenot and burrell were all acquired in 2010 because neukom agreed to take on additional financial risk. sure burrell was an easy signing at the league minimum but it was still a financial risk. and the giants right now have an owner who gets it. we can’t overpay huff an uribe in the same offseason, especially with torres and jsanchez and others due some decent raises in arbitration. but i guarantee that mark derosa and manny burriss will not be penciled in as starting shortstop come spring training.

4 years 8 months ago

He also said AS break 2012, which is not, next year.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Right, but I wasn’t responding to him. I was responding to you and to remind you, you said:
“When the Giants are back in 4th? I gurantee that will happen before 2012.”

Before 2012 is 2011. Key word being “before”.

4 years 8 months ago

You needed to remind me of what? When did i say 2012 is before 2011? Thats the problem with jumping into another persons conversations. We were already talking about the all star break of 2012, before you jumped in. Maybe things would be a little clearer if you paid attention. Its ok though, Ill still gurantee it.

Isabradley
4 years 8 months ago

Didn’t we already discuss this?

Did you or did you not say that you guaranteed that the Giants would be in 4th place BEFORE 2012?

That’s what I was referring to. You responded and said it was a tongue in cheek comment and you meant it to be humorous.

I responded by saying “Fair enough. I can appreciate where you’re coming from…” followed by a non-hostile discussion about our pitching staffs.

Which is why I’m not sure why you’re jumping on my case 3 hours later but O.K.

4 years 8 months ago

Im not jumping on your case.. I think ive been on here a little too long today.. nevermind me.

Guest
4 years 8 months ago

With his fantastic on base skills I would be surprised if its sooner than that.

Brandon Woodworth
4 years 8 months ago

Yes. I mean, he doesn’t get on base or hit for a high average. That won’t get better with age. He has 20 HR pop now, but who knows next year? I have no idea how a guy as big as he does has such great range at all 3 positions he plays. In the end, a shorter deal for $7m or a 3 year deal frontloaded would have been the best options. He will be nothing but a bench player by the end of this contract.

Guest
4 years 8 months ago

For some my comment didnt edit. I meant to say Uribe sucks and yeah, fun times.

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 8 months ago

Ridiculous…

4 years 8 months ago

Good for Uribe, win the world series and steal $21 mil from the Giants rival.

What if he ended up like Jason Schmidt?

SmackSaw
4 years 8 months ago

Uribe can’t pitch either.

Jay Patel
4 years 8 months ago

I would like that if it happened…Last Giant (Position Player) to turn Dodger was Jeff Kent and he had a good career…But I hope since he got his money he wont be motivated to play harder since he got financial security :)

4 years 8 months ago

Jason who?!? LOL

4 years 8 months ago

i seriously think that he is still a Giant and this is more of a business, he will sabotage the dodgers like FP Santangelo did.

4 years 8 months ago

i seriously think that he is still a Giant and this is more of a business, he will sabotage the dodgers like FP Santangelo did.