2011 Top 50 Free Agents

It's time for the fifth annual MLB Trade Rumors Top 50 Free Agents list!  The entire list of available free agents can be found here.

A note before we begin – this is a complicated puzzle, and I'll be satisfied if I'm correct on a quarter of these guesses.  If your favorite team seems under-represented, keep in mind that the list doesn't account for trades or every single free agent.  The linked player names go to our free agent stock watch pieces.

1.  Cliff Lee – Yankees.  I could be swayed toward the Rangers, but it seems the Yankees are more desperate for Lee.  The Nationals make an interesting dark horse.  I can see Lee getting a seventh year, as crazy as that sounds.

2.  Carl Crawford – Angels.  The Tigers and Red Sox should also be in the mix for the speedy left fielder, who is vying to become the first $100MM man without a 20 home run season on his resume.

3.  Adrian Beltre – Red Sox.  The Angels are a candidate, though I have a hard time seeing them win the bidding on the Boras client if they get Crawford.  If the Red Sox are not able to re-sign Beltre, I see them moving Kevin Youkilis to third base and finding a stopgap first baseman.

4.  Jayson Werth – Red Sox.  The Sox would have a crowded outfield, but they are known to like Werth and could view him as J.D. Drew's long-term replacement.  The Red Sox have already contacted Boras about Werth, according to ESPN's Gordon Edes.

5. Adam Dunn – Cubs.  The Nationals have held to a three-year offer.  Dunn doesn't want to DH, leaving the Cubs as the only other NL team I can see spending big at first base.  The question for the Cubs might be whether they can move Kosuke Fukudome's contract before Dunn signs.  The White Sox and Orioles may also have first base openings and Dunn on the radar.  Perhaps Dunn's unwillingness to DH will be tested by the Tigers, or they'll offer left field time. 

6.  Victor Martinez – Tigers.  They seem committed to Alex Avila behind the plate, but there aren't a ton of viable left-handed middle of the order bats out there.  Adding V-Mart might take the Tigers out of the market for a full-time DH type.

7.  Rafael Soriano – Angels.  As the best available reliever and a Boras client, Soriano should require a three or four-year deal.  I don't love the Angels-Soriano prediction, but I can't find a great match for the righty.  The Diamondbacks seek a closer, but this kind of expenditure doesn't seem like Kevin Towers' style.

8.  Mariano Rivera – Yankees.  Mo is still unstoppable as he approaches his 41st birthday, though it is outlandish to pay a reliever north of $15MM for 65 innings.

9.  Paul Konerko – White Sox.  Another tough one, if the Orioles look elsewhere and the Diamondbacks opt for someone cheaper.  The Nationals and Cubs will be seeking first basemen, but Konerko may not accept a pay cut on his $12MM salary after such a fantastic season.

10.  Derek Jeter – Yankees.  The most interesting part of Jeter's free agency may be the contract details.  I'll say four years, $65MM.

11.  Hiroki Kuroda – Pirates.  The Bucs are not typically big game hunters in free agency, but Kuroda represents a chance to add one of the better available arms with perhaps only a two-year commitment.

12.  Jorge De La Rosa – Royals.  Though De La Rosa at least gets groundballs, some consider him another Oliver Perez waiting to happen.  Much will depend on whether De La Rosa requires more than three years or $10MM annually.  The Pirates and Nationals seem like potential suitors as well, if he can't find common ground with the Rockies.

13.  Carl Pavano – Twins.  It's still strange to call Pavano dependable, but he's tallied 433 1/3 American League innings over the past two seasons.  He'd be a big loss for the Twins.

14.  Jake Westbrook – Cardinals.  There's optimism for a deal, which would really solidify the Cards' rotation.

15.  Aubrey Huff – Giants.  There is mutual interest for Huff and the Giants to strike a new deal.  If the Giants want to quit while they're ahead with him, both sides will have plenty of alternatives.

16.  Juan Uribe – Dodgers.  Uribe could be the Dodgers' new full-time second baseman assuming they non-tender Ryan Theriot.  But his versatility means he could also fit with the Twins, Mariners, Mets, Astros, Cardinals, Padres, Orioles, Reds, and of course back with the Giants.

17.  Carlos Pena – Nationals.  Quite a first base carousel could develop this winter, but Pena is a fit with Washington as they look to improve their first base defense.  Who knows – perhaps his first extended look at National League pitching will allow him to match Adam Dunn's 38 homers.

18.  Jim Thome – Rays. Thome, Vlad, and Manny should all find full-time DH jobs.  I can see the Rangers, Rays, and Athletics being the most aggressive in seeking a regular at the position.  The Tigers are a good fit for Thome if they miss out on V-Mart.

19.  Vladimir Guerrero – Rangers.  True, the Rangers already declined Vlad's mutual option, but that was a formality.  He is comfortable in Texas, and isn't going to find a huge offer elsewhere. 

20.  Manny Ramirez – Athletics.  Manny makes sense for Oakland on a make-good contract.  He had one of the better off-years I've seen, with his .409 OBP ranking second only to Thome among free agents.  Durability will be the bigger question.

21.  Magglio Ordonez – Blue Jays.  Maggs belongs in the AL.  The Blue Jays can make some room at DH if they move Adam Lind to first base, while still giving Ordonez some time in right field.

22.  Orlando Hudson – Cardinals.  He'd help the Cards improve on Skip Schumaker without breaking the bank.

23.  Derrek Lee – Brewers.  I can see the Orioles or Diamondbacks for Lee, who will have to settle for a one-year deal.  But Lee could land in Milwaukee as Prince Fielder's replacement and remain close to home.

24.  Lance Berkman – Diamondbacks.  If Berkman aims for a place he can DH part-time, the Rays, Blue Jays, or Rangers could work.

25.  Andy Pettitte – Retirement.  If the Yanks miss out on Cliff Lee, they could be scrambling if Pettitte retires.

26.  Jon Garland – Rockies. He's best-suited on an NL team looking for bulk innings.  The Rockies could be that club if De La Rosa departs.

27.  A.J. Pierzynski – Marlins.  They fit all of Pierzynski's preferences and are known to be in the catching market.  He also mentioned the Padres, Rangers, Rays, and Red Sox as potential fits if he doesn't re-sign with the White Sox.

28.  Miguel Olivo – Rangers.  The Red Sox, White Sox, Angels, Marlins, Reds, and Dodgers may also be looking for a catcher, so there's plenty of potential combinations.

29.  John Buck – Red Sox.  Buck has a supporter on the Sox in assistant GM Allard Baird.  They seem unlikely to hand the starting gig to Jarrod Saltalamacchia.

30.  Javier Vazquez – Nationals.  Vazquez has already expressed interest in pitching for the Nats.  His 2010 season was alarming, but there's still the upside of his fantastic 2009 with the Braves.

31.  Scott Downs – Red Sox.  Downs has the AL East experience to slot into a late inning role for the Red Sox or Yankees.  The Phillies and Angels could also be among his suitors, though a draft pick will have to be surrendered.

32.  J.J. Putz – Tigers.  Putz is officially back after a very strong season with the White Sox.  He may seek another shot at closing, but a chance to pitch for the Tigers close to home could be tempting.

33.  Brian Fuentes – Diamondbacks.  Fuentes will likely go where he has the opportunity to rack up saves.  The Braves could be another match if they don't stay internal for the ninth inning.

34.  Adam LaRoche – Orioles.  The Orioles are going to find a corner infielder one way or another; LaRoche is just one of many free agents they'll probably consider.

35.  Hisanori Takahashi – Phillies.  He's strong against southpaws and could spot start if need be, so the Phillies are a reasonable match.

36.  Pat Burrell – Padres.  Burrell had a nice run with the Giants, aside from the playoffs.  He could theoretically draw interest from the Braves, Reds, Diamondbacks, and Dodgers as well.

37.  Joaquin Benoit – Rays.  His numbers for the Rays this year were so absurd, they might be willing to offer him a chance to close in 2011.  He'll probably draw interest from a dozen teams, so that could be the difference-maker.

38.  Kevin Millwood – Padres.  Perhaps Millwood will get a shot at being the Jon Garland of 2011.  The Padres will probably bring in one veteran starter, and it's a coveted place to pitch.  Millwood could be a match for the Pirates as well.

39.  Kevin Correia – Brewers.  I like Correia as a sleeper this year.  The Brewers could make a big rotation upgrade by way of trading Prince Fielder, and then add Correia at the back end of the rotation cheaply.

40.  Arthur Rhodes – Reds.  The Reds and Rhodes have mutual interest in a new deal, but the 41-year-old southpaw will be popular on the open market.

41.  Pedro Feliciano – Angels.  The Phillies and Angels are two teams that seem highly likely to import free agent lefty relievers.

42.  Grant Balfour - Yankees.  Balfour would be a solid addition at the back of anyone's bullpen.  The Yankees will have options, though Balfour has AL East experience.

43.  Kerry Wood - Cubs.  He wasn't eager to leave after the '08 season, and now the Cubs can fit him into their budget.

44.  Scott Podsednik – Reds.  Pods fills the Reds' left field and leadoff needs at what should be an affordable price. 

45.  Yorvit Torrealba – Dodgers.  After five seasons as the Dodgers' primary catcher, it seems likely that they'll move on from Russell Martin.

46.  Hideki Matsui – Mariners.  His choice will probably come down to playing time, and the Mariners need a few quality bats.

47.  Johnny Damon – White Sox.  They had interest a year ago, and Damon's price should be lower this time around.  He's not an ideal DH but he's still an upgrade for the Sox.

48.  Kevin Gregg – Braves.  I expect they'll add some kind of late-inning veteran with Billy Wagner retiring, and Gregg may be inclined to chase the save opportunities.

49.  Koji Uehara – Mets.  Uehara, 36 in April, was fantastic in 44 relief innings this year for the Orioles.  His price should be held down by the 200+ DL days he logged over the past two seasons.  The market is flush with interesting right-handed relievers, but Uehara may still have a dozen suitors.

50.  Brandon Webb - Nationals.  Interest appears mutual.  Unlike last year's Chien-Ming Wang experiment, Webb may require upward of $5MM.

Honorable mentions: Miguel Tejada, Vicente Padilla, Takashi Saito, Matt Guerrier, Jon Rauch, Brad Penny, Nick Johnson, Bill Hall, Frank Francisco, Jason Frasor, Jose Contreras

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4 years 8 months ago

Pods to the Reds…or for godsakes no. Explain to me how he’s an upgrade over Chris Heisey…?

melonis_rex
4 years 8 months ago

In the Dusty Baker School of Player Evaluation, he is.

Ben_Cherington
4 years 8 months ago

Very good list!

How about a list of the top trade candidates as well, which would be very difficult, but fun to look at!

Sam_Lee
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, there are some thought provoking choices.

Hoosierdaddy92
4 years 8 months ago

No way Tigers only get Victor Martinez and JJ Putz. They will resign Magglio. And they will trade for Dan Uggla since he rejected the Marlins 4-year extension. Tigers will trade Crosby and Furbush for him and extend him 5 or 6 years. Leyland will have a rotating DH spot with Magglio/VMart and Guillen to keep the older guys healthy.

CF)A-Jax
Lf//DH) Guillen/Boesch/Wells/Raburn
1b) Cabrera
2b) Uggla
C/DH) VMart
RF) Magglio
3b) Inge
SS) Peralta
DH/C) Avila/Boesch/Raburn

Boz
4 years 8 months ago

way to read Tim’s “disclaimer”you’re obviously going to be a a genius future gm with your amazing reading comprehension skills.

fyi…you’re updated post isnt any better

vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

Yep, the Tigers are going to trade a guy with a bum elbow and a 24 year-old who just put up a 6+ ERA in Triple-A for a top-five second baseman. Makes sense….in bizarro world.

BravesRed
4 years 8 months ago

Calling Uggla a top-5 second baseman is laughable as that trade offer.

Hoosierdaddy92
4 years 8 months ago

How is Uggla not top 5? Utley and Cano are about the only 2 I can think of that are as good.

souldrummer
4 years 8 months ago

Because he is a butcher in the field.

4 years 8 months ago

Don’t forget about Pedroia and maybe even Kinsler when healthy.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

maybe kinsler? especially kinsler.

InTheKZone
4 years 8 months ago

I’d also throw Rickie Weeks into the conversation.

armyredsfan
4 years 7 months ago

Brandon Phillips should be on that list as well. The only only thing Uggla provides is some Power and some Uggly defense

Boz
4 years 8 months ago

“as good” implies that you think Uggla is actually better…which is hilarious

going by WAR Uggla is 5th behind Cano Weeks Johnson and Utley.

also Uggla is the 3rd worst fielding 2nd baseman

so taking into consideration offense and defense, top 5 2nd baseman is laughable

This doesn’t make any sense. WAR factors in both defense and offense. So, assuming the defensive numbers aren’t too fluky and everyone had reasonably representative seasons, Uggla is definitively in the top 5.

Boz
4 years 8 months ago

i wasnt aware that WAR factored in defense as well.

seems strange to me that he would be that bad defensively and still be top 5. does WAR heavily favor offense or something?

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 8 months ago

no, he is just a very good offensive 2B…

$1529282
4 years 8 months ago

Wait wait wait.

So you actively cite WAR and say that Uggla ranks 5th in that department… and then two sentences later call his candidacy for Top 5 second basemen laughable? WAR factors in offense and defense.

Whatever you’re on… I want some.

CaseyBlakeDeWitt
4 years 8 months ago

Even with all the 2nd Baseman brought into the conversation by yourself and other people, there are only a total of about 7 second baseman, so I’m not really sure how it’s laughable that someone thinks he’s in the top 5…

Mike
4 years 8 months ago

I like Uggla and if you need a power bat, he’s a nice choice. But if we’re talking overall second basemen, fielding, running, hitting, power, I can think of several more well-rounded players than Uggla:

Robinson Cano (better runner, better hitter, similar power)
Chase Utley (similar power, better fielder, better hitter)
Ian Kinsler (better hitter, better runner, better fielder)
Brandon Phillips (better hitter, better runner, best fielder)
Brian Roberts (better hitter, better runner, better fielder)
Dustin Pedroia (better hitter, better fielder, better runner)

Shoman5
4 years 7 months ago

Pedroia???? Kinsler???? Roberts????

vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

Why is that laughable? Even with an iron glove, he was still fifth in WAR among 2B this year behind Cano, Weeks, Johnson, and Utley.

4 years 8 months ago

I can see “debatable”, but it’s not “laughable”. He’s one of the best hitting 2Bs in a long time. Yes, I know his defense is terrible, but WAR takes that into account (I believe).

4 years 8 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAH. Sorry. HAHAHAHAHA

dc21892
4 years 8 months ago

Keep dreaming.

ToledoFan
4 years 8 months ago

I agree that there is no way the Tigers get only VMart and Putz. Way too much money available and way to much need + an average farm system that DD has finally got back to “respectable” status = at least 1 more Top 50 guy.

However, I highly Doubt that they will get Uggla. They have cheaper talent in Rhymes and Sizemore and Sizemore is a highly touted prospect who has an off debut year due to a broken ankle. When he came back in September he started looking very good down the stretch.
Plus, there is Carlos Guillen to consider and you have Raburn who has all but deserves a starting job in the OF.

So unless you want to put together a package of Turner Oliver, Crosby, Sizemore and Guillen just so the marlins will take Guillen off our hands, I highly doubt they get him.

If the Tigers are going to try to trade for a bat, Its going to be The Fat Prince of Milwaukee, but that would all but rule out VMart coming here because you NEED to let VMart take some shifts at DH.

I see the Tigers as serious players for Crawford or Werth is they land VMart. If they can’t get those two they will desperately try to resign Maggs.

ToledoFan
4 years 8 months ago

I agree that there is no way the Tigers get only VMart and Putz. Way too much money available and way to much need + an average farm system that DD has finally got back to “respectable” status = at least 1 more Top 50 guy.

However, I highly Doubt that they will get Uggla. They have cheaper talent in Rhymes and Sizemore and Sizemore is a highly touted prospect who has an off debut year due to a broken ankle. When he came back in September he started looking very good down the stretch.
Plus, there is Carlos Guillen to consider and you have Raburn who has all but deserves a starting job in the OF.

So unless you want to put together a package of Turner Oliver, Crosby, Sizemore and Guillen just so the marlins will take Guillen off our hands, I highly doubt they get him.

If the Tigers are going to try to trade for a bat, Its going to be The Fat Prince of Milwaukee, but that would all but rule out VMart coming here because you NEED to let VMart take some shifts at DH.

I see the Tigers as serious players for Crawford or Werth is they land VMart. If they can’t get those two they will desperately try to resign Maggs.

4 years 8 months ago

oh yeah and they’ll sign Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford, and Adrian Beltre along the way. Keep dreaming!!!!

4 years 8 months ago

I can see them signing Vic Martinez but trading for Uggla and resigning him for 5/6 years? Come on. He’s 30 years old and has less than average defense. I believe he stays in Florida. But I do think that they are in the mix for a Rafael Soriano. Not many people have been talking about Detroit as a destination for Soriano but I think that they spend some cash on a quality closer since Joel Zumaya is injury prone.

craig s (ManusBret)
4 years 8 months ago

John Buck This Years Marco scutaro!

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

From a Sox fan perspective, I’d take it. Scutaro regressed and everyone saw it coming, but he has still performed well enough to justify his deal as a stopgap measure.

Heck, even better that he doesn’t cost a prospect.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

It’s true, scutaro isn’t going to be an allstar any time soon, but as a stop gap you cant really complain.

Pirates412
4 years 8 months ago

Pirates getting kuroda?? lol

BlueSkyLA
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t get that one either. I’d handicap him to come back to the Dodgers, or one of the other west coast teams, on a two-year contract. One of the intangibles for Kuroda is that he speaks very little English. If he wants to continuing playing in this country he’s going to be the most comfortable in a city with a large Japanese population and a much shorter flight home. And what’s with this idea of Torrealba replacing Martin? This is hardly an upgrade at this position, and requires the Dodgers to sell Martin low.

4 years 8 months ago

Dodgers could bring in a FA catcher on a one-year, $3MM move and it’d be pretty much a lateral move that would save money. Not sure Martin will even be tendered a contract. Picking the Pirates for anyone is typically a long shot.

BlueSkyLA
4 years 8 months ago

I see your point, but nobody outside of the organization knows where Martin stands in terms of recovering from his injury. If the Dodgers aren’t convinced that he can come back at some point next season, then they might not tender. They’d be giving up an experienced major league player under team control and getting nothing in return, except maybe a small salary savings. I’d like to think that management isn’t that short-sighted.

BrocNessMonster
4 years 8 months ago

Not a small salary savings. A few million bucks actually. And with the owners, nothing’s more important.

BlueSkyLA
4 years 8 months ago

Maybe my point wasn’t clear. If Martin is replaced and cut loose this winter, and it turns out he can play, then the Dodgers have lost an experienced position player, which is a tradable commodity. It’s unlikely that the $2-3 million they might save this year (assuming they can sign a reasonable replacement for cheap) would offset the loss of a trading chip. With Martin being under team control for a couple more years, I think management has to consider the loss of trade value, and won’t be inclined to release him unless they don’t see him coming back from the injury.

jwsox
4 years 8 months ago

Tim i respect your opinion and on this one I hope you are right, I hope martin is non-tendered and Kenny Williams goes after him. Martin had a down year and a broken hip, but the kid can call a game, hit for average and power, and throw runners out and is surprisingly fast for a catcher. Plus very young. still.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 8 months ago

everything but the average and power I agree with. 2007 Martin was killed by Joe Torre…

4 years 8 months ago

Interesting list, I always like “predictions”. Will this list still be around once the players have signed, possibly with the original prediction and the eventual team they signed with?

BravesRed
4 years 8 months ago

Usually he keeps it under “MLBTR Features”.

fitz
4 years 8 months ago

Of course. Tim isn’t afraid to be wrong, it is after all, just predictions. Last year didn’t work out too well for him but it’s still fun to see what he thinks and then compare that to everything shakes out.

4 years 8 months ago

It’s so inter-related…if you miss on five guys it trickles down to a bunch of teams.

4 years 8 months ago

That is what I was wondering about… its fun to compare reality to what some people have to say in their predictions. Its just like the “Team X will win the World Series because ____” type predictions. Some of those are hysterical.

4 years 8 months ago

I agree. Last year he only got 6 out of 50 right & he got all the top 5 wrong but it’s still nice read his opinion & reason.

Pirates412
4 years 8 months ago

I can see garrett jones go to rays for garza people u agree??

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

i think garza is worth more than just jones.

Jason_F
4 years 8 months ago

It’s not even close. Garza could potentially dominate in the NL. His value is much, much greater than that of Jones. Plus, Garza is under team control for only two more years and the Pirates definitely aren’t contending by then, so whatever you gave up for him in trade would deplete the theoretical team in the future that has actually has a chance at contending.

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

i agree with you.

vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

No, zero people here agree.

BravesRed
4 years 8 months ago

I’m with ThinkBlue. Huntington has already said he’s looking for a platoon partner for Jones. No way Rays give up a proven big situation pitcher for someone that will be only in a platoon.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Garret Jones was one of the worst 1B in Baseball last season. Matt Garza is one of the best young starters in Baseball…

4 years 8 months ago

Fail. Why in the he!! would the Rays do this?

$1529282
4 years 8 months ago

The Rays would probably have to throw in Hellickson too. GI Jones gots skiiiiillls.

jwsox
4 years 8 months ago

probably not considering age of jones

BlueCatuli
4 years 8 months ago

Negative. Going to have to beef that package up.

BrocNessMonster
4 years 8 months ago

No. I don’t agree. I don’t think anyone does.

Beachbummer
4 years 7 months ago

lol, the Rays will get a haul for Garza but it may be nearer to next trade deadline! The Rays are gonna get like 8 extra high picks this year…love it!

mkorpal
4 years 8 months ago

Yuck, do not want Garland. The Rockies have 20 million to spend, and thats all they get?

bleedrockiepurple
4 years 8 months ago

You should be surprised that the Rockies are even on this list.

Garland isn’t all that bad…seen him pitch in CO a few times but he is no De La Rosa. He did throw 200 innings this year which is something JDLR cant say hes done.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 8 months ago

As a Jays fan, I’d rather have Ramirez over Maggie. Ramirez has a much higher career .iso, age doesn’t seem to be slowing him down any, he gets on base more often and both are Scott Boras clients so it doesn’t really matter which route you go between the 2 with that variable. Ordonez is also coming off the busted ankle that ironically the Jays gave him.

Bombastic_Dave
4 years 8 months ago

That they’re both Boras clients means neither will be signed by the Jays. Why would AA want either of them? They’re both injury-prone and thus unlikely to still be good when the Jays will need them in 2-3 years. Lind would have to be moved to 1B for either of them which would likely make E3 common on the scoresheet — not good for a developing team dependent on defense.

The Jays are simply not on the above list for free agent candidates. They don’t want to spend money or, more importantly, give up the draft picks they’ve been buying.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think you’ve been paying attention to the Jays much, so I’ll let it slide. They can spend money however they wish, and the White Sox won’t offer arbitration because they’ll grant him $20mil when he’s worth $10mil at most – hence giving up no pick. Ramirez would also DH so injuries would be avoided.

According to UZR/150, Lind had above average defense last year at 1B.

A window for the Jays could be next year with the Rays potentially losing Crawford, Soriano and Pena, and the Red Sox and Yanks a year older.

jwredsox
4 years 8 months ago

Lind only had 11 games at 1B. Not anywhere near enough for a good enough sample size.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 8 months ago

Agreed. I most certainly don’t think he’s an above-average defensive 1B, but if they put up with Delgado’s defense for many years, I think Lind should be adequate.

Bombastic_Dave
4 years 8 months ago

Telling me I haven’t been paying attention to my hometeam isn’t exactly “letting it slide.”

Also, 11 games played in a position for the entirety of a player’s career does not a reliable stat make. Adding on the single game played during his minor league career won’t help, either. I don’t know he’ll make a ton of errors there, but without the practice an actual 1B has, it seems likely.

I’d love to see the Jays get some big, expensive bats. I just think buying up expensive free agents seems contrary to how AA is playing his game. And by the attention I’ve been paying to my Jays, I don’t think he expects to for another year or two.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 8 months ago

Well now that I know you’re a Jays fan I won’t make such an outlandish claim about you.

But Anthopoulos has stated that he’s both not afraid to trade prospects and to sign a free agent, surrendering a pick. It just has to make sense, and having Lind at 1B while signing Ramirez to DH for 1 year does make sense to me. It’s much better than Lind DHing and resigning Overbay.

As for my statement about Lind’s defense, read my reply to jwredsox.

4 years 8 months ago

Lind played 1B exclusively in college. It’s not professional experience but he does have a fair bit of familiarity with the position.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

It all comes down to Lind being able to play at 1st. . that frees up the DH spot, and ya clearly Man Ram is the better choice for the DH spot as he is a far superior bat.

but again, thanks to cito, we don’t know if Lind can atleast be an average 1st basemen.

4 years 8 months ago

Lind doesn’t need to be average at 1B for moving him there to make sense. Kinda like how Bautista being “better” in RF doesn’t mean it’s wrong to put him at 3B.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

apples and oranges…

The jays don’t have a particularly strong infield.. If Lind isn’t atleast decent you cant move him there. With young pitch to contact starters on the mound you need someone who isn’t going to commit too many errors, and eliminate a few errors as well..
I’m not saying he has to be Texeira or Gonzalez.

I’m saying he has to atleast be a Delgado to move him there.. at this point we really don’t know what he is.

4 years 8 months ago

heres an interesting though. just looking for an opinion. what about keeping Lind in the DH spot and taking a run at Victor Martinez to play first exclusively. and maybe catch a few games. he getting old and cant catch forever plus it couldn’t hurt to even having him around to help with Arrencibia’s growth along with Jose. He would look nice in the middle of our lineup around Lind, Wells, and Jose [once we resign him]. Plus the jays got a nice selling point by hiring the soxs pitching coach last year as our new manager.

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Likely not feasible considering the potential pay difference. Somebody’s likely going to offer him catcher money on a four to five year deal (Tigers). His bat is elite for a catcher, but only really good for a first baseman, so he’ll seek a full time catching position as he’ll get less money to play first base. Only way he’ll play first base full time is if the team signing him to do so overpays substantially, which doesn’t seem like something AA is apt to do in this circumstance.

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Likely not feasible considering the potential pay difference. Somebody’s likely going to offer him catcher money on a four to five year deal (Tigers). His bat is elite for a catcher, but only really good for a first baseman, so he’ll seek a full time catching position as he’ll get less money to play first base. Only way he’ll play first base full time is if the team signing him to do so overpays substantially, which doesn’t seem like something AA is apt to do in this circumstance.

4 years 8 months ago

I can’t see the Reds signing Podsednik. They already have four useful outfielders. I think the Dodgers or Diamondbacks are more likely. I agree Berkman is probably the second choice for the Diamondbacks behind Konerko. Besides the Reds need a shortstop because I doubt theyll give the job to Janish or Valaika.

Gunner65
4 years 8 months ago

I am just thrilled the Reds are even mentioned in a free agency thread … but with the raises coming to all their arb eligible young guys this off season, they will be lucky to upgrade at the Bat Boy position

fabiani1233
4 years 8 months ago

Uribe a Dog and Burrell a Pad but who will play LF and SS for the Giants? Will the Pads and Dogs have the money? If Uribe and Burrell go, that will leave the Giants a lot of money to spend on someone like Crawford. You can’t have it both ways. Is this list a prediction or what you would ideally like to happen?

Jason_F
4 years 8 months ago

Theoretically, DeRosa will be playing left for the Giants next year. Uribe made $3.25M and Burrell made the pro-rated minimum, so combining those salaries does not a Carl Crawford signing make. And the list is obviously a prediction…why would it be what he would like to happen?

BlueCatuli
4 years 8 months ago

If Kung-Fu Panda doesn’t hold up his end of the bargain, DeRosa will be playing third.

After arbitration raises and bringing Huff back at a higher salary, they’ll basically be at last year’s payroll.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 8 months ago

Dog? Stay classy my friend

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Tell me you’ve NEVER said Red Sux in your life.

lakersdodgersyankees4life
4 years 8 months ago

Not since I was 13, and I’m guessing he is at least that age…

Beachbummer
4 years 7 months ago

Red Sux Red Sux Red Sux

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Tell me you’ve NEVER said Red Sux in your life.

vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

Hopefully this means a Zack Greinke to the Dodgers deal, as winding up with zero of the starting pitchers in the top 50 is just not good. I can see Carl Pavano being Ned Colletti’s next Jason Schmidt. Three-year $30 million deal.

ThinkBlue10
4 years 8 months ago

i think a pavano signing would be good for the dodgers. but i would love for the dodgers to go after greinke.

4 years 8 months ago

EVERYBODY wants their team to go after Greinke.

4 years 8 months ago

I don’t want my team to go after Greinke… He would cost way too much in prospects with the possibilty he won’t return to his 2009 form.

4 years 8 months ago

fair enough – I was wrong.

neoncactus
4 years 8 months ago

I see the Rangers aggressively going after Greinke, especially if they lose out on Cliff Lee.

bleedrockiepurple
4 years 8 months ago

Rangers already dished out some big time prospects in getting Lee. If they lose out on him, i don’t see them unloading the minors again for Greinke.

LordD99
4 years 8 months ago

Hmmm, I don’t know about that. Teams like the Yankees and Red Sox have the resources to always be competitive. Bring in new, high-priced talent as their old guard fades. The Rangers are built to win now, so they can’t wait two or three more years and hope they’ll still be one of the top teams. They need to maximize that opportunity now. They have a deep farm system, and a farm system serves two purposes: players to help the MLB club, or players to trade. They don’t have large gaps on the MLB roster, so it makes sense to use that talent for a key trade. If they lose Lee, they will need another front-line stud. Greinke is it, and Texas seems like the type of market he could handle being traded to.

4 years 8 months ago

I’d be sort of surprised to see the Twins bring Pavano back, despite his successes in MN. They have enough cheap starting pitching to contend and payroll will be tight even without him. Also, the draft picks…

4 years 8 months ago

I’d love for the Twins to give Pavano a 2 yr deal. But unfortunately I think he wants 3 years and the Twins will take the draft picks.

fabiani1233
4 years 8 months ago

Uribe a Dog and Burrell a Pad but who will play LF and SS for the Giants? Will the Pads and Dogs have the money? If Uribe and Burrell go, that will leave the Giants a lot of money to spend on someone like Crawford. You can’t have it both ways. Is this list a prediction or what you would ideally like to happen?

vtadave
4 years 8 months ago

I would imagine most any team would have the money for the likes of a Pat Burrell. Hopefully the Dodgers are aiming a bit higher.

Guest
4 years 8 months ago

Coletti has already said he’ll have money to play with this offseason, so it isn’t far-fetched to think that he’d make a run at Uribe and screw up the Giants. As Sabean said about both Huff and Uribe, it will come down to length and dollars. With Uribe, he really wants, and thinks he deserves three years, and if Coletti offers it to him, Sabean will let Uribe walk. And even for the Padres, Burrell at 2/$4 million is affordable, so Tim’s suggestions aren’t unreasonable.

If the Giants lose out on Uribe because they wouldn’t go a third year or over $6 million, Sabean would have to pivot to someone like J. J. Hardy for SS for a couple of years, with DeRosa at 3B next year. So they would still need a left-handed stick for LF by way of trade.

4 years 8 months ago

The Giants wouldn’t need to trade for a LF. It’d be as simple as Huff in LF and Belt at 1B.

BrocNessMonster
4 years 8 months ago

I think Belt needs another year in the minors. Looked good at the futures game though, even though all he did was take a few walks.

Fangaffes
4 years 8 months ago

Great list, Tim. Here are some thoughts:

– I hope the Red Sox go after Crawford rather than Werth.
– John Buck is a good call. I don’t think they are ready to hand the keys to Saltalamacchia yet.
– Great call on Jeter. Yankees want to pay less than $20M. Jeter will insist on a 4th year.
– I don’t see Manny as a good fit for Oakland. Manny quits when the team is losing. Oakland always gets off to a slow start. Dangerous combination.
– I agree on Beltre. The Sox will overpay him to be able to keep Youkilis at first. If he stays and Iglesias comes up in 2012, it could be the best infield in baseball.

Fangaffes
4 years 8 months ago

Oh yeah, and I don’t think Jed Hoyer would pick up Burrell to play in that huge park. My guess is the Nationals or he re-ups with the Giants.

scatterbrian
4 years 8 months ago

I agree with you that Manny is not a good fit for Oakland. They’ll likely accept comparable-to-slightly-less production from a much cheaper Jack Cust, or they will hand the reigns to Chris Carter (which isn’t as likely). But “Oakland always gets off to a slow start” doesn’t really hold water. That was a characteristic of the A’s of the early 2000s, but the only guy left from those teams is Mark Ellis. As personnel changes, so does the idea that a team plays a certain way…

Fangaffes
4 years 8 months ago

Yeah, I guess my information was a bit dated.

grant77
4 years 8 months ago

Tim,

The Blue Jays seem certain to add a relatively big bat on a short term deal for their open 1B/DH spot. Ordonez and Berkman are certainly reasonable choices, but would you also lump Ramirez, Lee, or possibly Matsui in that group?

briantalletsmoustache
4 years 8 months ago

With his knees, there’s no way Matsui would want to play on that turf, and there’s no way the Jays would want him to, either. With the Jays needing to (and having explicitly said they’re going to try to) improve in OBP, any 1B that can get to first when batting as well would fit the bill.

If there’s a merciful God, Matsui’s feet only ever touch dirt from here on out.

roberty
4 years 8 months ago

So how is he supposed to get from the dugout to the batters box?

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Handstands. After the 2006 “break my arm in half and throw the ball in BEFORE acknowledging the pain” situation, I consider Matsui to have the biggest stones in the MLB currently.

0bsessions
4 years 8 months ago

Handstands. After the 2006 “break my arm in half and throw the ball in BEFORE acknowledging the pain” situation, I consider Matsui to have the biggest stones in the MLB currently.

Bombastic_Dave
4 years 8 months ago

If the Jays get a new bat, it won’t be a big name and certainly not through top-tier free agency. The Jays are buying draft picks, not selling.

AA has been saying as much anyway.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t get why the Jays would sign Magglio Ordonez instead of Manny, who will cost a lot less than Mags and isn’t worse. Manny will also put more fans in to Rogers seats.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

it’s all about the future of adam lind, damn cito. WE LEARNED NOTHING!!!

RiverKKiller999
4 years 8 months ago

Kevin Gregg – Braves ?!?!?!? Oh for the love of god I hope not !!!!!

NYBravosFan10
4 years 8 months ago

Lol, he always helped us win before maybe he can continue that.

TheHotCorner
4 years 8 months ago

You mention Soriano going to the Angels because you can’t find a match. Any chance you could see Soriano going to the Rangers. With Cliff Lee presumably going to the Yankees would the Rangers give Feliz a chance to start? I realize there is an innings issue going from relieving to starting. Just curious what others think.

4 years 8 months ago

Soriano to the Angels is one I don’t see happening. He wants 5 years and Boras is his agent.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

ya but realistically, no team is going to get that. Most free spending teams already have a closer already.

coachofall
4 years 8 months ago

I see Soriano accepting arbitration again

roberty
4 years 8 months ago

I think he had too good of a season to accept arbitration. His 2010 was the kind of contract year that all closers, and Boras clients, dream about.

4 years 8 months ago

I dont think the Rangers would be making a good choice doing that, its a risk but i think they should focus on signing a back end starting pitcher if Lee goes. I see Sorino going to the Angels or Dbacks.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

If a lot of these end up being right, the red sox looked poised for a return back to the top of the AL east

Hoosierdaddy92
4 years 8 months ago

Why are the Blue Jays so intent on adding a Big Bat? They were among the league leaders in homers last year. If anything, they should be looking to upgrade their bullpen. With an elite bullpen, their young crew of starting pitchers, and their offense, its hard to see them not contending. There are so many DH-types out there, its hard to see the Jays needing to overpay for one

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

because bautista isn’t going to hit 50+ HR’s again.
Who knows which vernon will show up

and getting on base for the team collectively was probably their biggest downfall.

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 8 months ago

The Blue Jays getting rid of Tallet is an upgrade in itself.

moonraker45
4 years 8 months ago

my men’s softball team losing tallet would be an upgrade

4 years 8 months ago

I assume they want to add a big bat because the other manager would complain about the 7 man batting order. (Probably not so much about the 2 man outfield.)

YourBase
4 years 8 months ago

They were the league leaders.