Orioles Notes: Martinez, Randolph, Nishioka

The Orioles declined to offer arbitration to Kevin Millwood or Koji Uehara tonight. Here are the other hot stove-related items about the O's:

  • President of baseball operations Andy MacPhail tells Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun that he's "disappointed" to have missed out on Victor Martinez. The Orioles made Martinez a four-year $48MM offer at the general manager meetings in Orlando last week and were not given the chance to raise their offer, according to Zrebiec. MacPhail says the O's are now "looking at other options."
  • The Orioles agreed to sign former Mets manager Willie Randolph to be Buck Showalter's bench coach, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.
  • The Orioles did not bid on Japanese infielder Tsuyoshi Nishioka, according to Connolly (on Twitter).


37 Responses to Orioles Notes: Martinez, Randolph, Nishioka Leave a Reply

  1. Dave_Gershman 5 years ago

    I hope the Twins won the bidding for Tsuyoshi…I just hope his negotiating points are valid…Hope he doesn’t compare himself to Derek Jeter!

    • basemonkey 5 years ago

      I’ve been reading that a lot of the hype behind him is somewhat overrated. I’ve been an avid watcher of Japanese ball over the years. This last year I have not been able to spend so much time in Japan so I am not super familiar with Tsuyoshi Nishioka. So I am not sure.

      US articles citing sources from US teams sometimes seem to think he might be a UT type of guy or slaphitter in the longrun.

    • basemonkey 5 years ago

      I’ve been reading that a lot of the hype behind him is somewhat overrated. I’ve been an avid watcher of Japanese ball over the years. This last year I have not been able to spend so much time in Japan so I am not super familiar with Tsuyoshi Nishioka. So I am not sure.

      US articles citing sources from US teams sometimes seem to think he might be a UT type of guy or slaphitter in the longrun.

  2. lazerball 5 years ago

    Surprised they were planning to go all in on V-Mart. Does this mean the O’s are planning to completely give up on Wieters?

    • They would have rotated him through C/1B/DH, and he could have mentored Wieters.

    • basemonkey 5 years ago

      The Os were planning on putting VMart at 1B-DH and sometimes C. In that order. Wieters would get the majority of starts at catcher. They saw Martinez as a good mentor to Wieters who might be able to guide him in the ways of being a switch-hitting catcher.

  3. jwredsox 5 years ago

    I hope the Sox don’t bid on Tsuyoshi like it has been reported they might. It just doesn’t make sense to me why they would.

  4. basemonkey 5 years ago

    Another free agents snubs the Orioles. It’s extremely frustrating that the top talents just don’t give the Orioles a shot. It’s like they think the Os are paying in Euros or something.

    Usually the GM doesn’t even bothers to mention it publicly though. So the transparency is refreshing. It’s not as if the Orioles don’t try to match opposing teams’ offers. Once the free agent’s demands are met, they basically don’t give the Os a shot to match it.

    • jwredsox 5 years ago

      I don’t get it either. They have a good young core and a great ballpark. Baltimore is probably my 2nd favorite team in the AL East. I like watching that team play for some reason.

      • WasianCU 5 years ago

        I think Baltimore is my 54th favorite team in professional sports…

        • basemonkey 5 years ago

          If that’s true then why are you reading (much less posting comments) on an article about Orioles news?

        • basemonkey 5 years ago

          If that’s true then why are you reading (much less posting comments) on an article about Orioles news?

      • basemonkey 5 years ago

        I think it’s one of those things where the ball needs to get rolling to overcome the bad rap it’s built up. So, the only way out for the Orioles is for enough of that promising young core to breakout. If that happens, the free agents will be more inclined to come along.

      • basemonkey 5 years ago

        I think it’s one of those things where the ball needs to get rolling to overcome the bad rap it’s built up. So, the only way out for the Orioles is for enough of that promising young core to breakout. If that happens, the free agents will be more inclined to come along.

    • explodet 5 years ago

      Victor Martinez has stated countless times that he wants to stay at catcher. He was never going to sign anywhere where he wouldn’t have been the starting catcher anyway.

    • explodet 5 years ago

      Victor Martinez has stated countless times that he wants to stay at catcher. He was never going to sign anywhere where he wouldn’t have been the starting catcher anyway.

    • Slopeboy 5 years ago

      The Orioles don’t project to be winners yet. That will change starting this year,but for now the perception is of a bad team. They should pay in euros- The euro is worth more than the Dollar.

      • basemonkey 5 years ago

        Hmm. Actually that’s not true right now. I think the dollar was at 1.33 for every 1 Euro at last check. This recent recession has hit Europe even harder than the US. Sure, the US has had to bail out companies but Europe has had to bail out 2 countries so far, maybe a 3rd (or more) to come.

        • guest_54 5 years ago

          It’s the other way around, basemonkey. You have to give $1.33 to get one Euro. Slopeboy is right, it’d be better if the Orioles were paying in Euros. The player would make more money.

          • basemonkey 5 years ago

            Ok. I had a late night brain freeze. Sorry about that. I was wrong. I swapped the figures around.

          • guest_54 5 years ago

            No worries. Happens to all of us :-)

            Btw, my dad likes to tell a story about how he was wrong once. Thought he had made a mistake, but in fact he hadn’t 😉

    • Slopeboy 5 years ago

      The Orioles don’t project to be winners yet. That will change starting this year,but for now the perception is of a bad team. They should pay in euros- The euro is worth more than the Dollar.

  5. Dylan Ramirez 5 years ago

    did anybody bid on Nishioka?

  6. Rickli 5 years ago

    The orioles are retarded for not? What’s to lose? This is ridiculous…

  7. Rickli 5 years ago

    The orioles are retarded for not? What’s to lose? This is ridiculous…

  8. inns13 5 years ago

    Pretty bad day all around. The GM is ‘disappointed’ he couldn’t blow $50M on a light-hitting, light-defending 1B/backup C. No comp picks at all when the Rays set themselves up for like 10. And no creative Japanese solution at short. ugh

    • basemonkey 5 years ago

      If you read closer you’d see that the Os didn’t get a chance to up their offer. Martinez just inked the deal without checking back with Baltimore. If the Os balked at raising their offer that’s one thing, but if they don’t even get a shot, that’s another.

    • basemonkey 5 years ago

      If you read closer you’d see that the Os didn’t get a chance to up their offer. Martinez just inked the deal without checking back with Baltimore. If the Os balked at raising their offer that’s one thing, but if they don’t even get a shot, that’s another.

    • ugen64 5 years ago

      light-hitting? 5 of his last 7 seasons, he’s had an OPS of .850 or higher (and last year it was .844). that would’ve ranked 6th in the AL last season among first basemen with >300 PA. as a 1B he’s basically a 3 win player (assuming he’s average defensively) and aging wouldn’t be as big of a problem since he wouldn’t be a full-time catcher. and looking at the market so far, $12 million a year isn’t a huge overpay for that kind of performance.

      • niched 5 years ago

        True, but is Victor Martinez any better at first base than Luke Scott? He’s not a true first baseman so he’s not really a fit on the O’s since the O’s don’t need a catcher or a DH (unless they trade Scott). I’d rather have a real first baseman, like Derrek Lee or Paul Konerko, even if they’re older. They can fill in until the O’s find a decent young first baseman (who was the last good home grown first baseman in Baltimore, Eddie Murray?) Even Carlos Pena brings a solid glove and good power even if he can’t hit for average. I guess what I’m saying is the O’s best choice perhaps would have been to bring Aubrey Huff back 😉 though that was never going to happen. Adam Dunn could still happen too even though his defense is bad.

  9. inns13 5 years ago

    Pretty bad day all around. The GM is ‘disappointed’ he couldn’t blow $50M on a light-hitting, light-defending 1B/backup C. No comp picks at all when the Rays set themselves up for like 10. And no creative Japanese solution at short. ugh

  10. BernieMac3000 5 years ago

    VERY disappointed the Orioles didn’t even make an offer for Nishioka…not that they were actually trying to get him in the first place or anything…

    Can’t believe the Orioles are going to go with yet another weak SS like Bartlett or Hardy (or, UGH, Izturis again) sitting in the 8 or 9 hole. I know Machado’s waiting in the wings, but you need a glove AND a bat at SS for the next 2-3 years until he’s presumably ready. What are they scared of? No one would have blamed them if Nishioka didn’t pan out. At least they would have tried. He’s GOT TO be better than what’s available in the pool of MLers.

    I’m not huge on the FA market, but what’s the point in even saying you’re going to sign guys when you know you’re just going to do what you do EVERY year? That, of course, is to over-pay for bullpen help (that doesn’t acutally help) and an “innings-eating veteran” and pick up some infielder off the scrap heap when all the legit FAs have been picked over and you’re left with some fool who’ll take anything at that point in the offseason.

    • ps314 5 years ago

      I don’t see much in the FA market for them to try to sign. You expecting them to sign Jeter??

      • BernieMac3000 5 years ago

        Nope! And I can say the same for the other top-tier FAs, too. The O’s just have to understand that they can’t create a culture of winning by bringing in big names off the market…even those who are proven winners elsewhere (Miggy/Javy/Raffy, anyone?). They need to create that from within the organization so FAs can see that and, in turn, hopefully see Baltimore in a whole new light.

        • ps314 5 years ago

          I completely agree about building from within, but the Orioles have no options aside from Machado who was just drafted this year. Bartlett and Hardy are hardly big names. I think this is the right approach for the Orioles and I’m glad they are going in the right direction. I’m a die hard Orioles fan by the way.

          • BernieMac3000 5 years ago

            I love the Orioles, myself. Now, Machado really is the one true prospect the Orioles have. Britton maybe will be alright, but one or two solid guys doesn’t make it a good system. There need to be rookies knocking on the door each year, but instead we see midseason call-ups that you can never expect a lot out of. Sometimes a rookie can energize a team, but how often does that happen? As for FAs…..

            There was absolutely no point in what they did last year in signing the likes of Gonzales & Atkins. I mean, you have a rebuilding team, yet you think getting a “sort-of closer” is going to fix something? Then, you get a guy who USED TO hit, but somehow couldn’t do it at all anymore…in COLORADO. Wouldn’t it have been just as risky to go with someone they already had? They ended up canning Atkins in the first half of the season anyway! Signing guys like that doesn’t show us, the fans, anything. You can’t fill in holes on a team with FAs. They’re meant to enhance an already solid team. I guess I just have a different definition of “solid” than Mr. MacPhail.

  11. ps314 5 years ago

    I completely agree about building from within, but the Orioles have no options aside from Machado who was just drafted this year. Bartlett and Hardy are hardly big names. I think this is the right approach for the Orioles and I’m glad they are going in the right direction. I’m a die hard Orioles fan by the way.

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