Cubs, Other Teams Also Pursuing Adrian Gonzalez

The Red Sox aren't the only team in the hunt for Adrian Gonzalez.  "Multiple teams besides [the] Red Sox," including the Cubs, are interested in the Padres slugger, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com.  This isn't the first time we've heard about Chicago's interest in Gonzalez, and the Cubs' search for a big-hitting first baseman may have intensified now that Adam Dunn has signed with the crosstown rival White Sox

Two big obstacles stand in the way of a Cubs/Padres deal: the Cubs' ability to provide the blue-chip prospects that San Diego desires in any Gonzalez trade, and whether the Cubs can afford the long-term extension that Gonzalez wants after 2011.  One obviously impacts the other, since it would be foolish for the Cubs to move several prospects for just one season of Gonzalez.  With the Carlos Silva and Kosuke Fukudome contracts coming off the books after this year, Chicago has about $63MM committed to their 2012 payroll.

Besides the Cubs, Rosenthal lists the Angels, Blue Jays, Orioles, Nationals, Rangers and Rays as having a "possible interest" in a Gonzalez trade.  All of the teams could potentially afford a Gonzalez extension except Tampa Bay, and all of the clubs have intriguing minor league prospects to interest the Padres (though it might be hard for L.A. to acquire Gonzalez without giving up star prospect Mike Trout).  Dan Hayes of the North County Times tweets that it's the Cubs and Red Sox, however, who are the "main focus" of San Diego's trade talks.


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170 Comments on "Cubs, Other Teams Also Pursuing Adrian Gonzalez"


42214221
4 years 8 months ago

wow

The_BiRDS
4 years 8 months ago

Im all Cardinals but damn I hope cubs get Gonzalez.. that would make Cards cubs games even better!

Dont think it ends up happening though…

dickylarue
4 years 8 months ago

I gotta believe Baltimore and Toronto are in this too. If the Mets aren’t in it offering Ike Davis among others, they really are morons.

42214221
4 years 8 months ago

snider romero

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

way too much.

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

That’s insanity.

AllYourBaseAreBelongToUs
4 years 8 months ago

Baltimore will be desperate after getting shafted by FAs, but they won’t give up Wieters or Matusz, and that’s what the Padres will look at first.

Toronto is in a good position for him, they really can compete as soon as next year, but is that worth losing a combination of Snider, Arencibia, Drabek and others?

I think the Mets hold on to Davis, and wait until there some contracts are off the books (Perez, Castillo, Beltran) before they do anything significant.

4 years 8 months ago

how willing would the padres be in reimold, tillman, and build from there, i wonder

4 years 8 months ago

If Gonzalez goes to Mets I will personally pay his entire year’s salary. No way that happens.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Why would the Orioles acquire A-Gon? Plus, he’s not going to want to sign an extension with them.

padresfuture
4 years 8 months ago

I agree. They are not close enough to contention to warrant giving away the players/prospects needed. I like the orioles farm system but I don’t see them making this move unless they plan to sign him long term and build aggressively around him.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

Neither can really afford the extension, though each can post the prospects.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 8 months ago

Why would you feel the O’s or Mets couldn’t afford Agonz? The O’s bid aggresively on Tex but lost and the Mets have tons of money coming off after 2011 but may or may not have the prospects. Obviously Ike Davis would be the centerpiece.

Vivid_Reality
4 years 8 months ago

For the love of all things baseball, DO NOT DO THIS HENDRY. You have pulled off some amazing trades in the past (Lee and Ramirez) but this will not work out in our favor. Its time to get your head out of the clouds and fully commit to the rebuild.

The_BiRDS
4 years 8 months ago

amen.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

no, please keep it up.

4 years 8 months ago

Details. Why won’t this work? You realize he’s a good hitter right? And that a good hitter would make the Cubs better, right? If the Cubs can pull something like this off and compete for the division or wild card there is no reason to blow it up and rebuild. The whole purpose of playing the games is to contend, if they’re able to contend why wouldn’t they? Besides, what we have on the farm is nice, but there aren’t any can’t miss prospects, no Jason Heywards or Buster Poseys. Committing to a rebuild with what we have down there wouldn’t be all that successful. Sure, there are some good players coming but nothing that will turn this team into a contender. If San Diego wants them and if AGon will sign, I’d deal.

4 years 8 months ago

First off, The Cubs don’t have the payroll for AGon and definitely don’t have the prospects for AGon. Even if you threw in C. Starlin they would still have a slim chance.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

Whoa, if they throw in Castro then they have a very legitimate chance at A-Gon. Castro, Vitters, Cashner, and Carpenter would probably get it done.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think so. Maybe I’m wrong, but that is not enough of a package to trump about 3 other teams who would be bidding.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 8 months ago

I think that deal is better than most of what the Red Sox have been offering. Also, it more directly addresses the needs I’ve been hearing a lot of Pads fans asking for, like a SS, OF and pitching since most of the younger guys will be graduating to the mlb staff. Castro fills the SS need where the Sox are reluctant to give up Iglesias. Cashner has proven himself to be more mlb ready than Kelly and has more upside than Doubront or Pimental. The Cubs may have to sub out Vitters and Carpenter for maybe Brett Jackson though.

4 years 8 months ago

Yanksfan, I somewhat agree with you. Yes Cashner maybe more mlb ready than Kelly. But Kelly has the higher up side. And I don’t know if I would say he has more upside than Pimental, Dourbront, I will give u. Lastly, I don’t see the Cubs trading Castro in the first place. But if they did, Castro, Jackson, and Cashner would probably be too much to give up.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

For some reason, any big player that comes to the cubs either blows, or has a few good years then ends up being overpaid. Not saying Gonzalez is a bad player, but I’m just saying.
IE: Alfonso Soriano, Milton Bradley, Carlos Zambrano, Kouske Fukudome, Jeff Samarzija were/all overpayed.
Ryan Dempster, Marlon Byrd, and Aramis Ramirez are next.

4 years 8 months ago

Marlon Byrd makes on average $5 mil a year during the life of his contract. I don’t really see how he can be overpaid unless he doesn’t play another game for the rest of the next two seasons.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

Which is possible, but hey, I’m just pointing it out, not saying Gonzalez will completely drop off if he comes to Wrigley, but I’m just pointing out the history, and that it HAS happened before.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

Except that Aramis Ramirez is and will continue to be UNDERPAID for 2011. He’s about the best short stop in baseball. He could get $17-20MM on the open market right now, if he were an F/A.

jb226
4 years 8 months ago

Ahem.

Aramis Ramirez is a third baseman for the Cubs.
Alexi Ramirez is a shortstop for the White Sox.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

i can think of 3 shortstops i’d rather have over Alexi.

Vivid_Reality
4 years 8 months ago

Don’t get me wrong, I would love Gonz in Cubbie Blue especially with the lack of 1B prospects in the system. The Cons just outweigh the Pros for me. At best we get a stud for 20mm a year to blast moon shots out of Wrigley for some prospects that may or may not work out. At worst we have the next Soriano. I would rather not take the risk given the current state of our team.

Neil Tatro
4 years 8 months ago

cashner, hak-ju lee, jay jackson, and sean marshall enough? i think the cubs definitely have the players to get a deal done.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

I’d be willing to bet it would take one of the two: Starlin Castro, Josh Vitters, then Andrew Cashner, and Tyler Colvin.

BlueCatuli
4 years 8 months ago

If it weren’t the Padres I’d say you were over valuing Vitters, but they have been in on him before. Hak ju Lee could be involved instead of Castro. In 5 years people will be talking about his big extension like we are all talking about Tulowitzki’s. Castro will be a Cub for his entire career and will be the face of their franchise.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

I remember a few years ago, even at a single-A level, Vitters was one of the best prospects in baseball, some ESPN writer wrote about it, I have no idea where he’s at right now.

tommy4205
4 years 8 months ago

He’s at AA Tennessee, from what I saw of him there’s no way he’s fast tracking it to the big leagues anytime soon.

BlueCatuli
4 years 8 months ago

He has had some Cubbie type injuries that have been nagging him. I look for him to have a break out year and be a September call up. He was hit in the hand by a pitch last year and never fully recovered, but he was just getting his groove back from the promotion to AA. He won’t be the blue chip everyone thought he would be, but I’d be willing to bet he is a part of the Cubs future, just not at third base. The Cubs website recently had an article in which Muskat discussed Vitters making the switch to first base. Baseball America has him projected as a left fielder. An outfield of Vitters Guyer and Jackson would be something to look forward to.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

as much as it doesn’t make sense, i can see it happening with Hendry. Jay Jackson, Hak Ju Lee, Andrew Cashner, and rafael dolis gets it done IMO.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Rafael Dolis doesn’t have much value. Brett Jackson would have to be included. And Jay Jackson’s value is very low at this point. Hak Ju Lee and Cashner are defnitely potential Padres though in an A-Gon trade…Both are blue chippers who have tons of value.

I actually really like your proposal, but I think Some how/some way, Brett Jackson has to be involved even if that means taking out Lee or Cashner.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

anyone who can hit triple digits with a plus slider has value. Why he hasn’t been moved to the bullpen baffles me.

crunchy1
4 years 8 months ago

It’s common for the Cubs organization to start their better pitching prospects in the minors, figuring you can always convert them to relievers later. Dolis’ future is very likely in the bullpen. But, like you said, guys who hit triple digits don’t grow on trees. I’m sure scouts are aware of who he is.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I seriously think the Red Sox do not have the best chance to acquire A-Gon…I think the Cubs have a good chance

Cubs: Hak Ju Lee, Brett Jackson, and Yohan Gonzalez
Rangers: Jurrickson Profar and Martin Perez
Nationals: Derek Norris and Drew Storen
A’s: Chris Carter, Stephen Parker, and Ian Krol
Rays: Wade Davis, Jairo De La Rosa, and Alex Torres
Blue Jays: Adeiny Hechevaria, Michael McDade, and Zach Stewart
Braves: Freddie Freeman and Randall Delgado

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

I would bet a large sum of money neither the Braves or the Rays will be in on Gonzalez. Neither are set up to give a Tex like contract to Gonzalez. The Rays for obvious reasons and the Braves because well they were the original team that didn’t extend Tex to a Tex like contract.

The Jays, Nationals and Rangers all seem like they would be able to give a big contract to a player like Gonzalez.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Since when is a contract extension a sure thing though? It doesn’t need to happen.

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

Because you don’t trade Freeman and Delgado for one year of a player, especially when you have a top prospect MLB ready at that position.

It doesn’t matter what any of us think. Wren refuses to give up any of his ‘franchise prospects’ in deals. Just look back to the Peavy talks and to the deals this year.

4 years 8 months ago

Then neither the Braves or the Rays are giving those guys up for a one-year rental.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

It does if you are going to give up 4+ top talent positions in trade.

TXHC
4 years 8 months ago

I doubt we’re seriously in on this. Maybe if all the starting pitcher stuff falls through, but other than that I don’t see it.

Beachbummer
4 years 8 months ago

The more i think about it the more i like a Fielder for Garza type deal for the Rays. Longoria and Fielder followed by Joyce, Brigniac or one of the FA Dh’s (Vlad or Thome) is significantly better than last year. Maybe enough to put the Rays in the mix. It doesn’t have to be a down year for us.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

Hey, I know about the recent Dunn signing, but I’m sure there is a extremely miniscule chance that KW talked to the Padres before signing Dunn, so do you think a package centered around John Danks would have gotten it done?

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

Sure thing. Absolutley…But I’m not sure the White Sox have the package to get A-Gon unless KW parts with Beckham…If he does part with Beckham…White Sox have a real shot…

Beckham and Short for A-Gon.

4 years 8 months ago

Not happening with the Braves. We can’t afford to commit $20MM+ a year to any player, especially with ownership up in the air after next season.

bbxxj
4 years 8 months ago

Of all those deals the Nationals is quite weak and the Rangers and Blue Jays seem like overpayments. I think the Braves offer is about fair with some wildcards in there but no way Wren gives up both those guys for a rental.

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

That’s a steal for the Jays.

Pretty sure they would want Drabek instead of Stewart which I wouldn’t be willing to part with but I would definitely take that deal.

Quest2b1
4 years 8 months ago

I think Seattle is a team no one is mentioning. Smoak, Franklin, Pineda and Ackley…not all but two of those four makes for a strong offer with a couple B prospects. They also have Ichiro coming off the books.

I think Pineda, Franklin tops Boston’s best two.

Sniderlover
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t understand… aren’t the Mariners re-building?

Quest2b1
4 years 8 months ago

Just a dark horse, but I have not seen them try and move Aardsma yet so not sure.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 8 months ago

I wouldn’t say they are rebuilding. They traded for Cliff Lee and signed Figgins to a multi-year deal. They have a 2 year window to win w/ Ichiro and a 4 year window before Felix hits FA. I would say they have the means to pay for a guy like Agonz.

I’m not sure if Smoak would interest the Pads since they have Blanks but he’s injured right now and could play LF when he gets back. Maybe the Pads bite on a Smoak, Triunfel, Ackley and Robles/Beavan will get it done?

Quest2b1
4 years 8 months ago

They would need one more arm, maybe Pavano? There was an article/blog on the losing culture in Seattle right now. AGonz could change that and sell a lot of seats. Also didn’t Seattle post for the Japanese SP? Not really a rebuilding move. Lastly, if Bedard can put together a healthy season, that team could make a run in the west.

padresfuture
4 years 8 months ago

I would love to see a package centered around Smoak and Ackley.

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t think they’re willing to move one of them, let alone both Smoak and Ackley.

42214221
4 years 8 months ago

pineda and ackley

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

I don’t have any proof, but I highly doubt – and nearly guarantee, that they wouldn’t trade the next best player in the 2009 draft after Strasburg, especially when he hasn’t even had a cup of coffee yet.

Quest2b1
4 years 8 months ago

Like I said, a dark horse, but they have the ammunition to top any team besides the Royals imo.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

Smoak, maybe, but not Pineda and Ackley. Kelly, Lowrie and Kalish top those three as a package. Still a good offer, but not a winner.

Quest2b1
4 years 8 months ago

Did you just say Kelly, Lowrie, Kalish > Pineda, Smoak, Ackley?

YanksFanSince78
4 years 8 months ago

Steve_in…..ahhh….MA. Explains it all.

4 years 8 months ago

Did you seriously say the Red Sox don’t have the best chance to land A-Gon?
Lol! Casey Kelley, Jose Iglesias and Athony Rizzo could probably (I wouldn’t do it) get it done now. If that wasn’t enough they could choose from the following list of Prospects.

Josh Reddick, Ryan Kalish, Ryan Lavarnway, Stolmy Pimental or Oscar Tejada.
Not only that, they can offer him more money than any other club interested in him.

hurley55
4 years 8 months ago

teams like the Jays have better prospects to offer. Drabek/Arencibia or D’arnaud/Hechavarria > Kelly/Iglesias/Rizzo

4 years 8 months ago

Sorry Kelly/Iglesias/Rizzo trumps Drabek/Arencibia or D’Arnaud/Hechavarria. Since the Pardes needs are 1st, SS, OF and pitching.

hurley55
4 years 8 months ago

you would take the best talent, not what your needs are

4 years 8 months ago

Agreed, But Kelly/Rizzo and Iglesias are the best talent compare to Drabek/Arencibia and Hechavarria. Not saying the Jays prospects aren’t
good, just the Red Sox prospects are better.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

Except that the last 5 of the seven teams you profile cannot afford the 6 year, $140MM extension it will take to get him signed to a long term deal.

YanksFanSince78
4 years 8 months ago

a) You’re assuming that a team has a desire to extend him. That’s not always the case and the Holliday to Oakland, Lee to Mariners, and Lee to Texas shows how much teams are willing to give up for 1 year or less.

b) Rays and A’s might think of doing it for short term purposes. Both have the farms to do it and not miss a beat. Cubs have Lee’s money off from 2010 and another $30 to $40 mil coming off next year. The Nats have offered big money to Tex and others and could afford to offer Agonz 6/$140. With Overbay and EE off the books the Jays are about $35 mil from their highest payroll of $98 mil in 2008. I doubt Agonz is a priority for them though. The Braves might consider it if Chipper tells them that 2011 will be his last year and he retires prematurely. They might decide to go for it one last time if Chipper is retiring. Agonz and Heyward could be the face of the team going forward. The Rangers don’t need Agonz because they have Moreland and probably won’t extend Agonz because they have Hamilton and other to consider so I don’t see them being players in this.

4 years 8 months ago

I seriously doubt any team interested in A-Gonz is going to give up the type of prospects it will take to land A-Gon. And not expect to sign him to an extension.

firealyellon
4 years 8 months ago

holy crap were you epically wrong

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

I was wrong

4 years 8 months ago

I’ll throw a dark-horse candidate out there: The Nationals. If they can scrounge the prospects together to make the deal, they’ve shown they’re willing to throw money at top players in free agency and would likely be more than willing to give A-Gon a big extension.

Dave_Gershman
4 years 8 months ago

exactly.

Steve_in_MA
4 years 8 months ago

Except that the Nats can’t afford to match a 4 yr. / $56MM contract on Dunn, and surely, A-Gonz will take about $140MM for 6 years to extend.

4 years 8 months ago

This would be a coup for Hendry and probably his best trade yet. Even giving up some of the pitching that the Cubs have built, they come out way ahead and are set at first for years to come, much as they were with the Lee trade. It won’t come cheap but they HAVE to kick the tires pretty seriously on getting one of the premier first basemen in the game today.

4 years 8 months ago

The Red Sox are clearly the leaders in this race. Padres are going to make National League teams pay more, Sox have the money, the prospects and the track record of these kinds of things.

4 years 8 months ago

See, I’m not the only one:
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
the #padres talking pretty seriously now with teams about gonzalez. got to think #redosx are heavy favorite should something happen

4 years 8 months ago

If the Cubs landed Gonzalez it would be Hendrys best move since D-Lee or A-Ram moves. Don’t think it would happen but something along these lines.SD—-A-GoCHC——Chris CarpenterTrey McNutt/ Jay JacksonWellington CastilloJosh VittersHak-Ju LeeKyler BurkeI’m guessing Castro, Archer, Cashner and Colvin are untouchable

After Silva and Fukudome if not traded become free agents.
Sign Adrian Gonzalez 6/1++ with 2 team options

shysox
4 years 8 months ago

Castro is the most likely untouchable. Colvin and Cashner are probably movable. I’m guessing that a package something like Vitters, Colvin, Jackson, Cashner and Carpenter could get it done.

BillB325
4 years 8 months ago

I`m sorry but you under value some of these guys, it would most likley be a trade like Vitters,Lee,Carpenter,Barney,and Castillo.

jammin502
4 years 8 months ago

I am not so sure that Colvin is untouchable. There has been talk about moving him to 1B because the OF is so crowded. If Guyer and/or Jackson are involved in this trade then they can slide into RF / CF at some point. Not mentioned, but I believe that Ramirez’s contract falls off the books after 2011? I do think that Welington Castillo would be a nice piece for the Padres. Don’t know what kind of value Vitters has right now. Hak-Ju Lee could be moved with what looks like a Castro locked shortstop spot.

padresfuture
4 years 8 months ago

Castro, Archer, and Cashner for Gonzalez and Bell.

Ferrariman
4 years 8 months ago

castro ain’t going anywhere.

padresfuture
4 years 8 months ago

I would’nt blame them for wanting to hold onto castro, but the Padres biggest need is ss/2b and unless the Cubs have anything meaningful to offer there other than castro then I dont see the cubs as a match. No castro and the cubs would have to gut their farm system to get Adrian.

4 years 8 months ago

Hak- Ju Lee, he’s supposed to move Castro to 2B when he comes up cause of the fact he is a better fielder.

crunchy1
4 years 8 months ago

And more of true leadoff hitter because of superior speed and patience at the plate.

BillB325
4 years 8 months ago

Keeping up with the farm system Kyler Burke didn`t really show any promise in high A so just take him off and that looks very good.

missyae
4 years 8 months ago

The Cubs are the ‘other team’ Jed is gonna use to get what he wants from Theo. Theo is too close to blow it this time. I think he is ready to give Jed what he wants.

4 years 8 months ago

Agreed. Great move by Hoyer.

Helps when Theo has guys like these guys to replace the guys he is about to trade:
Ranaudo
Cecchini
Coyle
Workman
Vitek
Ramos

Tyler Sekula
4 years 8 months ago

Oh how i just love the Red Sox 2010 draft class 😛 Wonder what will come of that number 18 pick this year!!! Theo better pull the trigger…spend your money..plenty of time to develop these guys while Gonzo mashes for the red sox for years to come. :)

Montero1220
4 years 8 months ago

Theo Epstein is pretty greedy with his prospects. I can picture someone stealing Agon from the Sox by overpaying for Gonzalez with a ridiculously good package. The Cubs seem like a good fit. Maybe Starlin Castro to start out as the centerpiece with possibly Tyler Colvin. No way Theo trades the beloved Casey Kelly.

Orioles, Braves, and Mets are great fits also. If the Mets would be willing to part with Ike Davis I could see the Pads jumping all over that as he is a proven major leaguer. As a Yankee fan I dread the thought of seeing Agon in a Sox Uniform. Brings back memories of Manny Ramirez. Gasp.

4 years 8 months ago

After the ridiculous 2010 draft the Sox had they can finally afford to pull the trigger on something like this.

Montero1220
4 years 8 months ago

True. I still don’t think the Padres will get what they deserve for Agon. Just a feeling.

4 years 8 months ago

Maybe that is why they are saying that others are perusing Gonzo hard. Jack up the price.

MaineSox
4 years 8 months ago

I may be wrong but I think for A-Gon the only guy who wont go is Iglesias and I wouldn’t be too surprised to be wrong about him too.

Potrzeba
4 years 8 months ago

I’d give up anyone except kalish, and Iglesias. But I would like to see the sox have him sign a contract extension.