Buehrle Would Accept Trade For Right Fit

White Sox left-hander Mark Buehrle said he would be willing to approve a trade, depending on the circumstances, if the South Siders were looking to deal him, writes Scott Merkin of MLB.com.

Buehrle has full no-trade protection on account of being a so-called 10-and-5 player, meaning he has 10 years of service time, the five most recent of which have come with his current team, the White Sox. Buehrle said there are teams for which he wouldn't want to play and would therefore invoke his trade veto. But he also said that he would accept certain trades if one were in the best interest of the White Sox because he is on good terms with the team and owner Jerry Reinsdorf.

"They have done enough for me," Buehrle told Merkin.

Chicago, though, is considered a strong contender in the AL Central this year and is not actively interested in trading any of its starters, according to Merkin. Buehrle, in the final season of a four-year, $56MM deal, could be an attractive in-season trade target for contending teams should the White Sox get off to a slow start and fall out of the postseason picture.


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188 Comments on "Buehrle Would Accept Trade For Right Fit"


YankeePhan1234
4 years 6 months ago

Yankees Anyone?

4 years 6 months ago

If the Yankees want to make an impact in the offseason, they could somehow trade for Albert Pujols or trade for the White Sox ace.

NomarGarciaparra
4 years 6 months ago

Pujols has already said that he will veto any trade proposals…

redsox4120
4 years 6 months ago

NOMAHHHHHH

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

And your point is?

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

NOMAH is a point.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

That has no bearing on Pujols almost constant recitation that he will revoke ANY trade proposal.

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

No one said the point had to make any sense 😉

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

you are not thinking about this the right way. consider this,

NOMAHHHH GUY

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

Ahh, Fail on my part.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

nah no fail. just a bit of whoosh

0bsessions
4 years 6 months ago

DUDE KED IT’S NOMAAAAAAAHHHH

ellisburks
4 years 6 months ago

Who’s Nomah?

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 6 months ago

Mia Hamm’s Caddy!

Retnan
4 years 6 months ago

Nomar Garciaparra. “Nomah” is what his name sounds likes when spoken with an exaggerated Boston accent.

ellisburks
4 years 6 months ago

Thanks! Would never have known!

4 years 6 months ago

Unless Pujols can pitch, he’d be wasted money. Besides, the Yanks already have an expensive 1B locked up long term & I doubt either of them would be happy DH’ing.

RIP steve jobs
4 years 6 months ago

Joba and Granderson works for me, Joba cant seem to handle the bright lights of NY

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

mark buehrle+carlos quentin for joba and either bret gardner or curtis granderson….joba would go into the bullpen and coop can fix him. sale steps into the rotation and thornton is the closer…if the sox get gardner or granderson they play right and provide a nice left handed bat to bat 2nd or lead off….bret lead off with juan batting second or juan leading off with curtis batting second. Slot carlos to right field move swisher to left and either gardner moves to Cf or curtis stays there

its actually a decent move for both team….obviously with gardner the sox would probably have to eat some salary but if it were granderson then salaries could match up pretty close

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

No thanks for Quentin. Gardner and Granderson are of more importance to the Yankees then Quentin would be.

YankeeBaseball
4 years 6 months ago

I like this deal for both the Yankees and White Sox. Yankees get the starter they need with Quentin a wild card. Sox deal from surplus and fill two areas of need. Joba still has good upside. He pitched well the second half. Granderson also improved in the second half (but Gardner could fill his spot nicely & cheaply in CF). Yankees OF defense would take a hit for sure, but the Yankees biggest need by far is starting pitching and Buehrle would fit that need admirably.Win-Win.

4 years 6 months ago

Of course he meantions this RIGHT as Wainright goes down. You know, because he’d love to pitch for the Cardinals and all. ANYTHING TO HELP THE WHITESOX WIN ;D

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

I would LOVE to have Mark Buerhle pitch for us. I’d think he’d do great.

4 years 6 months ago

St. Louis is going to replace Wainright with Joe Blanton in the short term, watch. If Buerhle is available in July & STL is still in the race, then maybe.

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

Joe Blanton will not happen unless the Phillies cover his contract, The Cards just can’t take it on with Albertageddon coming up after this season.

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

He’s makes more sense now than he did 24 hours ago. The problem is that the White Sox are a little short on starting pitching, with Peavy still being questionable.
The Cardinals would have to pay a huge price to get Buehrle for 2011.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

not really. every time peavy throws more and more scouts are impressed with him. Dr. James Andrews(the TJ guy) gave him a clean bill of health and said he is ok to resume full baseball activities right before spring training. and with chris sale being there is peavy is even 90% ready by opening day there could be a pitcher who is expendable….trade buehrle and quentin for a real outfielder and slot sale into the rotation….peavy-danks-jackson-sale-floyd…bring lucas harrel up from the minors to fill in for peavy if need be for a bit…trade buehrle to one of these teams….idealy the cards for rasmus(maybe even swing a holliday deal with some money being moved wishful thinking i know it wont happen but a guy can dream..the sox get holliday and some cash, the cards get quentin, buehrle, vicedio haha again i know it wont happen)…..the yankees again along with quentin for joba and granderson……the mets for beltran(he probably wont approve)……..dodgers for kemp(again probably wont approve)

Yankees420
4 years 6 months ago

Rasmus is too good, cheap, and young for the Cards to be enticed to trade him, I think. Kemp is under control through arb after next year so I don’t think he has any veto rights, but I think it’s moot since the Dodgers don’t need pitching. As for the Yankees, I think it’s interesting and I would probably make that deal. Granderson isn’t good against LHP and with Soriano, Joba is more expendable. I have concerns about Quienten’s health, but if can stay healthy and have a more league average BABIP, he could have a great year, and with Buehrle at the 4 , I think the Yankee rotation would be able to at least repeat last season’s numbers.

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

I’m rooting for Peavy. I like the guy with his attitude and work ethic. However, I will accept the fact he is back when he returns to his Padre form, and sustains it for a few months. There is a very realistic possibility that he may never be the same.
Also, for as great as Sale looks, he has not started a game since high school. Turning him into a starter at this level and asking him to get you into the 7th inning every 5th day may or may not work out.
The Sox are not obligated to save the Cards. If I were Kenny, I would stay the course.

eck78
4 years 6 months ago

HUH? Sale started in college and has always been a starter until his MLB career.

mboss
4 years 6 months ago

Chris Sale was one of the top LH start pitchers in the draft last year. His change up was graded as a plus pitch as was his fastball along with an average slider. He started in the BP his freshman year and moved into the rotation his Sophomore and junior years.

I’m just not sure if Sale is ready to be counted on for a different reason….he’s only thrown 40 innings as a professional!! Yes, he was great in the BP last year but things change when you have to face guys 3 times and make adjustments, and his FB would not play up into the upper 90’s as a starter.

foxtown
4 years 6 months ago

OK. We’ll take Rasmus though.

4 years 6 months ago

BALTIMORE!

4 years 6 months ago

He said for the right fit, it’s in the title — Baltimore has no starting pitching and a worse bullpen, why would he go there?

JohnnyHamer
4 years 6 months ago

I doubt Baltimore contends but perhaps with Buehrle a wild-card would be possible. To Say Baltimore has NO pitching is an exaggeration. Guthrie,Matusz and lots of closing experience in the pen.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

lol

4 years 6 months ago

Are you high? Guthrie (3.83 11-14) is BAL’s ace. Matusz (4.30) is the #2 & Duchschere is their #3 and he’s only pitched over 100 IP once in his career. Gregg and Gonzalez? Are you kidding me. Yeah, I stand by my earlier point: Baltimore has garbage pitching.

RIP steve jobs
4 years 6 months ago

I doubt he would accept that one

MatzMatics
4 years 6 months ago

Wainwright may be gone for the year and all of a sudden, Buehrle is willing to be traded? Coincidence?

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start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, my first thought exactly. Must be a coincidence.

4 years 6 months ago

Except CHW wont even consider trading him till July…

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

actually he has never said that he wouldn’t approve a trade. A writer more than likely asked him about the possibility of a trade to the cards now that adam is down

4 years 6 months ago

If we get rasmus take buehrle and quentin

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah not very realistic.

Andy_B
4 years 6 months ago

to give up Rasmus, cards would need a pretty good prospect

4 years 6 months ago

Would Buehrle+Quentin+ Jared Mitchell + B Level be enough for Rasmus?

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

And play Quentin where?

NL_East_Rivalry
4 years 6 months ago

fine, they will give you Quentin and their LF position meaning Cards have LF1 & LF2. 10 players on field, and pitcher doesn’t hit. Also, Sox have 8 players on field and the pitcher hits. Sound fair?

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

the cardinals would have 4 left fielders with Quentin, Berkman, Holliday and Jay whose best position is LF.

NL_East_Rivalry
4 years 6 months ago

Hey, with 4 left fielders, who needs CFers or RFers? Think of how Dunn’s defense could improve if there were six of him on the field… he’d still probably have a ton of errors.

inleylandwetrust
4 years 6 months ago

That would actually be worse. They would all be tripping over and running into each other.

NL_East_Rivalry
4 years 6 months ago

worse for who? I pay to see slapstick, that’d be better!

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

on the team they flip him to

Andy_B
4 years 6 months ago

I’d really hate to give up Rasmus. At the all star break last year he was leading the league in OPS, and for most of the year led for all CF in OPS. Once he pulls it all together I think he will be a perennerial all star. Any package that included Rasmus would have to include Sale and then some.

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

sale and then some? no…sale for rasmus straight up maybe …not saying i want to do this deal but i think their value is even. Rasmus has the potential to an all star CF#3 hitter sale has the potential to be a top of the rotation starter or at the least an elite closer

David C. Ruckman
4 years 6 months ago

Rasmus and Sale are NOT even in value. How in the world would one come to the conclusion that they are? Career potential? Sorry, I just can’t connect the dots here.

4 years 6 months ago

Rasmus is NOT that good. Kenny would be crucified if he did that.

Lunchbox45
4 years 6 months ago

lol

mboss
4 years 6 months ago

I think you are completely over valuing Rasmus…

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

the white sox hate those

jwsox
4 years 6 months ago

Buehrle + vicedio+ either mitchel or Jordan danks and cash for Colby. It gives the cards a 1st base back up if they lose Albert and a center field prospect

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

this junk again? I thought the fact that there was zero rumors about trading Rasmus and them signing a defensively challenged Berkman sort of made it clear as day Rasmus isn’t getting traded….

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

It’s just that if the Cards want to land Buehrle they’d have to trade one of Rasmus, Miller, or Cox, (maybe Sanchez, depending on how high the ChiSox are on him)…

The other thing I guess is to trade a bunch of guys — pure quantity. Salas, Green, Descalso, Hamilton, etc… And then spinning that quantity into some talent that the ChiSox would want.

Maybe the Cards could do it if Buerhle agreed to restructure his contract through an extension. Given his love for the Redbirds, that’s not out of the question I don’t think. But why would the Sox trade Buerhle unless they were overwhelmed with what they were getting in return? He’s a great pitcher, not exactly something that comes cheap…

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

you are correct in everything you just said. My hope is if/when Buerhle is a free agent, we can sign him for nothing instead of giving up prospects. I’m assuming the ChiSox decline to offer arbitration for fear of having to pay him about 18million in 2012.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

I don’t know about the ChiSox declining to offer arb, cuz I think someone would sign him. But I know the Cards won’t give up a top draft choice to get him (He’s type A FA right?).

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Colby is not being moved. That’s it. End of conversation. Trust me, I want him as much as you do but it’s just not realistic.

Pete
4 years 6 months ago

This guy has proclaimed his love of the Cardinals so many times, its just about a done deal. Funny timing how this gets written as soon as Wainwright is lost for the season…

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Not really “just about a done deal” He’s starting the season with the White Sox.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

It’s not a done deal until the ChiSox sign off on it. And given the Cards hesitancy to trade any of their young guys (Rasmus, Miller, Cox, etc…) there’s not much incentive for Chicago to even consider a trade with StL.

Unless the Chisox are looking for salary relief, which I doubt.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Zack Cox and Eduardo Sanchez for Mark Buehrle and cash.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

As a Cardinals fan, I’d say yes right now.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

That is if he stays at 3rd base.

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

Zack Cox? No way that happens, But Eduardo Sanchez could definitely be in the mix along with Lance Lynn/Kyle McClellan.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

You mean Kyle McClellan.

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

Haha, Oops. I just drafted Ryan Zimmerman in a mock, so I got the first names mixed up.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

The White Sox don’t really need a bullpen arm at this moment and Lance Lynn looks like an innings-eater tops TO Me, how about Martinez/Blair and Sanchez for Buehrle and cash? Yeah, Cox seemed unrealistic.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

Lynn is a back end of the rotation guy, maybe a 3rd starter ceiling. Blair is less developed, still an A ball prospect I think, but envisioned with the same ceiling. Although people think he’s not going to hold up as a starter, so you’re looking at Ryan Franklin 2.0. Martinez might hold some interest but he’s such a raw talent (great tools!), I don’t know that the Sox would bite.

Sanchez is future closer material. No doubt about it. He’d could be in this deal and the Cards would have to be sold on either Boggs/Motte becoming closer.

I think a Motte/Boggs + Lynn (4th starter material ETA 2012) + Hamilton (1B/DH Adam Dunn-esque ETA 2012) gets it done. Motte/Boggs could be spun later for another player who holds more interest to the ChiSox. Who’s looking for RHRP?

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

Martinez has ridiculous raw tools…one year of buerhle and adding in Blair…i’d rather wait till he is a free agent and accept this might be a down year. Re-tool next year. Not re-build, re-tool.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

Dunno why that was a response to me. But I certainly agree.

A Buerhle trade is a real longshot.

I think Millwood is more likely. I’d get Millwood in on a minor league contract that vests into a solid major league contract if he makes the club (say $5 million?). If not, give him an opt out clause. Don’t know if he’d bite, but right now the guy is out of a job. He’d be given a chance to work his way on to a contender. Should be easy if he’s sharp and eager to prove something.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

**Two years of Buehrle. His option for 2012 vests if he is traded.

4 years 6 months ago

Cox cannot be traded until 1 full year after signing (I think he could be a PTOBNL, but I’m not sure)

mboss
4 years 6 months ago

Correct, and the same with Chris Sale. Also PTBNL can only be un-named for 90 days, so you would not be able to complete a trade realistically this year until after the end of June. Teams typically do not like to do PTBNL for too long, especially if those players are actively playing (and could get hurt).

PJaysW
4 years 6 months ago

Eduardo Sanchez is the pseudonym Kenny Powers father goes by in Mexico.

Andy_B
4 years 6 months ago

You got yourself a deal, tell Mark to come on over

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

cox can’t be traded and i’m not interested in mortgaging the future.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Must be a pretty sad day for a Cardinals fan.

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

Yep, The Nick Punto injury was devastating.

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

i’m not crying but it definitely stings.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

cox can be traded, but shouldn’t be

4 years 6 months ago

He’s from Missouri, he probably saw the chance to say he wants to go to the Cardinals after he heard of Wainwright’s incident.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

St. Chuck to be exact.

Schoenhole
4 years 6 months ago

Up the street and around the corner from me to be exact lol

NomarGarciaparra
4 years 6 months ago

I wonder how much Buehrle paid the doctors to advise Wainwright to undergo TJ…

redsox4120
4 years 6 months ago

White Sox would be wise to keep that rotation together for as long as possible. Now that it’s paired with a awesome offense that rotation has serious potential to propel them to first place in the AL Central

4 years 6 months ago

Cardinals don’t have prospects to give and they are not parting with Rasmus for a player who is going to be a FA soon and who’s thinking of retiring at the end of his contract.

4 years 6 months ago

Jaime Garcia for Buehrle?

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

And the Cardinals would do this why?

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

because one step forward and two steps back feels like dancing!

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

First time I actually physically laughed at a MLBTR comment..

4 years 6 months ago

To get a good pitcher so they don’t need to worry about Wainwright being gone for a year or the Reds winning the NL Central again this year, thats why.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

You really think that Garcia for Buehrle straight up makes sense for the Cardinals? A young, cost controlled, almost ROY last year for an older soon to be FA who costs millions more? The Cardinals future rotation revolves around Wainwright (after his TJ surgery) Garcia, and Shelby Miller.

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start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Burhele is a slightly above average pitcher at best. If Wainwright is out they’re going to need all the potentially talented arms they can get. The trade makes absolutely no sense.

Stl_Great
4 years 6 months ago

Jaime Garcia is a good pitcher, It’s pretty much a exact swap, with Jaime being cheaper at the moment.

4 years 6 months ago

Thank you for understanding my point.
Garcia can’t take over Wainwright’s spot for an entire season, he’s only been in the majors since last year. Thats why the Cards need to make a move for a solid pitcher, which is why I threw out Buehrle’s name since he sounds like he wants to go there.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

No one is saying Buehrle to the Cards doesn’t make sense….it the idea that the Cards would give up Garcia for him that doesn’t.

notsureifsrs
4 years 6 months ago

cheaper younger (harder better faster stronger) controlled for longer with higher upside

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

And the idea is for the Cards to IMPROVE the overall rotation, not just one spot. Whoever they bring in needs to complement CC, Garcia, Westbrook and Lohse, not replace them (ok maybe Lohse).

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

But now that I think about it how much cash would the White Sox have to send to St. Louis considering Albert Pujols’ upcoming most lucrative contract in history?

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start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Well I doubt you have to worry about that, as someone above said it make no sense for a team like the White Sox to trade away any of their starters right now. Unless a team, oh let’s go out on a limb and say Burhele wants to go to the Cards, offers to pay Burhele’s whole contract and give instant helpful pieces then there will be no trade.

Antonio Nicarelli
4 years 6 months ago

After 100 comments, finally one that makes sense. Neither the Cards nor Sox want to take on more salary, so any trade would have to be even, right now, both financially and on the field. At that point, what is the point?

Wek
4 years 6 months ago

If I’m Buehrle I would accept a trade too, to any team really. His option for $16mil vest as soon as he is traded.

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start_wearing_purple
4 years 6 months ago

Actually according to Cot’s that option ended July 2010, unless you have another source. Besides, I think he’d not want an option to kick in, unless Sabathia joins in next years FA pitchers market looks pretty bleak.

Wek
4 years 6 months ago

I checked Cot’s and didn’t see the option expired, only that he got a 10-5 NTC. I don’t know if getting a 10-5 NTC voids this clause but B-R still list the option.

I don’t see Buehrle getting more than $16mil anually even if Sabathia doesn’t opt out. He’s pitched so many inning and thrown so many pitch that arm could fall off any time.

Yankees420
4 years 6 months ago

“2009 – July 15, 2010: limited no-trade protection allowing Buehrle to block trades to certain unspecified clubs. A trade triggers an escalator paying $1M raise to $15M annually, plus a guaranteed fifth year paying $15M for 2012.

July 16, 2010-2011: Buehrle may not be traded without his permission, under right as 10-and-5 player”

Straight from Cot’s.

4 years 6 months ago

As everyone says, It’s no coincidence this comes right after the Wainwright deal. But the Sox are “all in”. Granted, Buehrle is no stud anymore, but any downgrade in the rotation could severly hamper their chances (especially if Peavy won’t be ready). However, the Cards may be desperate, but the only way I see a Buehrle deal working out is if the Sox got Rasmus/Garcia, and that is obviously a ton for a guy past his prime.

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

And the Cardinals want to build around Rasmus and Garcia as part of their future core…makes more sense to just stick it out this year than to trade away budding superstars.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Just put Sale down in Charlotte for a month and go with a 4 man rotation if necessary. Peavy/Danks/Jackson/Floyd/Sale is a pretty good rotation, assuming Buehrle gets traded near the deadline. That being said, I doubt that the White Sox will trade Buehrle until they are completely out of contention.

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

You think Peavy will hold up pitching every 4th day?

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

Depends on the schedule… The Cards went with a 4 man rotation for about a month last year when they set down Garcia. They only needed 2 spot starts from Suppan (who actually pitched really well in his brief return to StL under Duncan… surprises me he didn’t come back in 2011).

Maybe that’s how this whole mess with Wainwright started… either that or you can believe TLR’s story (he slept on it funny)…

YanksFanSince78
4 years 6 months ago

Is Peavy even going to be ready to pitch before June?

disgustedcubfan
4 years 6 months ago

I agree. Without Buehrle and Peavy, the rotation would be really thin. Kenny would want a starter coming back in any deal for Buehrle,which is why a deal with the Cards would be tough.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Not only past his prime, but in a walk year. Why would *anybody* give up young MLB-level talent (potential All-Stars at that) for a RENTAL?!?!!

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

Isn’t Buehrle from St. Charles?

chaifetz10
4 years 6 months ago

Yup.

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

If they could find a trade that works with out giving up too much it might not be a bad idea.
Cards are pretty deep in pitching prospects.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

Deep in RHRP prospects. Our starters are pretty thin after Miller and Lynn (Maybe Blair?).

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

Jenkins and Martinez should be starters. Thats sort of reaching though as there so far off but i felt the need to include them as you mentioned blair.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Yes.

StanleyPujols
4 years 6 months ago

I wonder if the Sox would be interested in Jason Motte/Jon Jay/Eduardo Sanchez. This enables them to put Sale in the rotation. Motte can close. Jay adds outfield depth which they could use. He’s an immediate upgrade over De Aza.

A rotation of Floyd, Danks, Peavy, Jackson, and Sale is still very formidable.

The Cardinals meanwhile would have Carpenter, Buehrle, Westbrook, Garcia, and Lohse – also very formidable.

The White Sox are the long-range winners securing years of back-end bullpen security for an aging pitcher who probably wasn’t going to return anyway.
The Cardinals are short-term winners as they will still be in the playoff hunt and probably still the favorite to win the NL Central. They also can use this move to show Albert that they will always do what it takes to stay competitive.

Cardinals pen survives with Salas, Batista, K-Mac, Boggs, Franklin, Tallet, and T. Miller

Not sure how the money shakes out, though.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

Peavy’s status is relatively unknown at this point, Sale hasn’t started a game yet, not even in the minor leagues. Not taking anything away from Jay, but he doesn’t seem like anything special. We really don’t need another bullpen arm but I do like Eduardo Sanchez. Blair/Sanchez would do it for me, IMO.

StanleyPujols
4 years 6 months ago

oh and did I mention Wainwright returns in time to close games in the playoffs and rescue the Cardinals from Ryan Franklin as he did when he took over for Izzy in ’06. Sweetness.

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

How do you know that?

StanleyPujols
4 years 6 months ago

???

I thought it was pretty evident that this was just wishful thinking. I’ll try to be more outlandish with my daydreams going forward.

RepOak
4 years 6 months ago

Wow, where this come from?!

booyahtastic
4 years 6 months ago

Just throwing this out there…what about a trade with Sale and rasmus as the core?

shysox
4 years 6 months ago

I highly advise you don’t throw that out there. Every time a Rasmus comment appears (a) Cardinals fan(s) get(s) pissed off. From prior experience.

Redbirds16
4 years 6 months ago

When they don’t make much sense, you’re going to get negative feedback. This one is rather vague though, so maybe it can be worked with…

This would be fine, except the Cards would have a huge hole in CF now, not to mention missing a big bat. If the Cards got a decent bat at 3rd, 2nd, or SS, you could justify losing Rasmus’ bat and replacing it with speed and defense in CF…

So maybe you’d see something like Rasmus and Schumaker for Sale, Beckham, and a CF (If Pierre could still play center, he’d be the type you’re looking at…) at the core of the deal. Money and maybe a low level prospect from the Chisox might make this work. But it’s still a real long shot and it’d be a lot of scouting work to be done. Good part is, the ChiSox already scouted the mess out of Rasmus, so that’s one player down. Don’t know how high the Cards are on Beckham or Sale though…

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 6 months ago

Yeah, Kenny Williams would lose his head if he traded Sale AND Beckham.

Ferrariman
4 years 6 months ago

its sort of hard to keep a cool when people are attacking like angry bees at the first signs of a chance to go bottom feeding on a guy who isn’t available.

TwinsVet
4 years 6 months ago

Not just Cards fans. Any student of baseball gets irritated.

Rasmus is a heart-of-the-order guy, talent, and CHEAP. There’s alot to like about him. And Holliday-Rasmus are the extent of the offense in life-after-Pujols for the Cards.

The idea that the Cards would give up Colby for Buehrle (an expensive, declining rental player) is just completely offensive.

If you want to talk about reasonable value for Rasmus, you need to start with Sale. While Sale has monster upside, he’s still proven less in the majors than Rasmus – and their value is much closer than Buehrle-Rasmus.

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 6 months ago

Hmmm…..that’s quite an interesting trade actually (even though Sale would have to be a PTBNL).

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

no.

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 6 months ago

Why? And from which team? I really have no idea what I would say in this case.

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

From the cards, and because Colby is going to be re-signed long term once we lose Albert.

Joey Doughnuts
4 years 6 months ago

Oh ok. From the Sox point of view, I would probably take the trade since they only appear to value him as a reliever at the moment, and even though they SHOULD move him back to starter, a successful season in the pen may make them want to leave him there, and I would rather have a stud CF over a stud reliever any day.

syphercx
4 years 6 months ago

Lol well from a Sox point of view I agree with you, but I happen to like our center fielder and the Cards have a stock pile of relievers and pitching prospects in the minors.

The_Silver_Stacker
4 years 6 months ago

Colby Rasmus is a popular guy around here