Red Sox Open To Offers For Matsuzaka, Others?

7:51pm: One Red Sox official has called the ESPNBoston story "false," tweets Edes. According to Edes, however, his source was describing scenarios he'd been told by another Sox official. GM Theo Epstein also disputed the report, writes John Tomase of the Boston Herald.

5:49pm: The Red Sox moved a little closer to finalizing their Opening Day roster today by reassigning a number of players to minor league camp. Before April 1st rolls around, however, the club appears open to making more significant roster moves. Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston reports that the Red Sox "have let it be known" they'll listen to trade offers on a number of players expected to start the year with the team.

According to Edes' source, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Tim Wakefield, Mike Cameron, Darnell McDonald, and Marco Scutaro would be available in the right deal. Some of those players would likely draw more interest than others. Matsuzaka, for instance, in addition to having a full no-trade clause, is owed $10MM this season and has struggled so far this spring. So while Edes writes that the Red Sox would move the right-hander if they could "add to their young catching inventory," finding a deal that works could be tricky.

Cameron and Scutaro have been identified as potential trade candidates previously this winter, given Boston's depth at their respective positions. As for Wakefield, Edes' source says the 44-year-old is "on the bubble" and could be available for a left-handed reliever. Though his 2011 role with the Sox is up in the air, the knuckleballer said earlier this week that he can't imagine playing anywhere besides Boston.


112 Responses to Red Sox Open To Offers For Matsuzaka, Others? Leave a Reply

  1. piro18 4 years ago

    Ill take Scutaro on the Phillies. Could make up for the lose of Chase Utley a bit. Plus he is in the final year of his contract I believe.

    • According to b-r.com, Suctaro was worth 2.2 WAR for the Sox last year at $5M, or $2.25M per win. Wilson Valdez was worth 1.7 WAR at a salary of $381K, or $225K per win despite only playing half of the season. Therefore, Valdez on a WAR basis is at least 10x’s more of a value at his price than Scutaro is at his.

      In layman’s terms, no thanks.

    • Ok, since my previous comment apparently had to be approved by a moderator first, I’ll summarize.

      I would much rather take Wilson Valdez’s 1.7 WAR at $400K over Scutaro’s 2.2 WAR at $5M. By WAR metrics Valdez is 10x’s the value on a $ per WAR basis.

      • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

        lol

      • xfipMachine 4 years ago

        You go ahead and take Valdez’s career .240/.289/.326. Smart.

        • On which planet is the difference between Wilson Valdez and Marco Scutaro’s worth $5.5M?

          I get it, you don’t like the WAR/$ analysis. But you better do better than quoting Valdez slash line before I think about adding $6M for a guy who hasn’t played a meaningful 2B since 2004.

      • its not about that when you are trying to win. It’s just who is better. If the want to win why wouldnt they take a better player?

        • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

          crazy talk!

        • That’s fine, I agree that Scutaro is the better player. Now as soon as the Sox are wiling to eat about $5M of the $6M Scutaro is owed in 2011, I’m sure Amaro will be more than happy to put together a mutually beneficial deal.

          Otherwise, I’ll stick with Valdez.

          • RedSoxDynasty 4 years ago

            Yup and good luck finding a taker for Blanton cuz by you’re logic the Phils are gonna have to eat about 14 of the 16 remaining on his contract too cuz he sux!

  2. RahZid 4 years ago

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say Wake won’t be dealt. He says he can’t imagine playing anywhere else and he has 10-5 rights.

    • wickedkevin 4 years ago

      You beat me to the 10-5 rights. I doubt he approves to leave.

      • johnsilver 4 years ago

        Not to mention I’d rather have him as the #5 over Matsuzaka anyway. No other reason? In the AL Wake can throw a masterpiece every 3 games or so and give just as many innings as Matsuzaka can every time out.

        Matsuzaka needs to be in the NL anyway..He moves over there and his game improves vastly.. A Blanton type x2 stuff wise.

        • qbass187 4 years ago

          Wake was baaaaaddd all last season and is looking bad this spring.
          I’ll take Dice-K over Wake, right now, any day of the week .

          • dwarfcatt 4 years ago

            Wake can join Bronson Arroyo in the “Living proof you never take a hometown discount with the Red Sox” camp

          • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

            yea he’s really pissed at them over how he’s been treated his entire career. hates the red sox so much

          • wickedkevin 4 years ago

            Meh, I’d take off Wakefield and replace him with Lowell. How is it a hometown discount at age 44?

          • dwarfcatt 4 years ago

            on reflection, i regret that comment – when you are 44 you are pretty lucky to get what you get

  3. Holidayjesus 4 years ago

    Theo, I will trade you this awesome candy bar for Dice K. But you have to pay off his contract of course.

    • I don’t think they will accept that.

    • Pete 4 years ago

      What are you going to have him do? Mow your lawn?

      • Holidayjesus 4 years ago

        Mow my lawn and have him pitch to the local beer league.

      • Fangaffes 4 years ago

        On days that Papelbon can’t close, Dice-K can start warming up in the 4th inning so he can be the one to walk the park full in the 9th.

  4. jnolan33177 4 years ago

    Utley isnt out or lost yet, they announced he has gotten a lil better today.

    • And Amaro said this regarding that baby step…..

      “”I don’t know if it’s good news or not good news”

    • Tko11 4 years ago

      It doesnt matter how he feels today, the condition he has is tricky. One day you feel great and then the next day it can hurt more than ever before and vice versa…or at least this is how it was explained on the radio for the past week.

  5. Guest 4 years ago

    One of nats catchers for Dice-K? ill take that, as long as the sox pay close to half the salary

    • I bet he’d do better in the NL (maybe). Can’t figure this guy out. Which catcher do they give up? From what I’ve heard Flores is the most likely to be dealt and he doesn’t match up as well with what the Sox would want if they’re after more of a “prospect.”

  6. RedSoxDynasty 4 years ago

    Why are Wake and McDonald even mentioned here? Wake will retire if he doesn’t make the team and McDonald won’t fetch equal value to what he brings to the sox and he’s cheap!

  7. Encarnacion's Parrot 4 years ago

    I’ve heard a rumor that the Angels like to take on big contracts..

  8. hrbomber1113 4 years ago

    Gee, YA THINK??? A 35 year old SS who’s had one really good year and had a wOBA of .319 last year. A 38 year old OF coming off a ton of injuries with a fairly large contract for this year. It’s tough to tell if age, the move to the AL East, or injuries was the main culprit but I’m guessing it was a mix of all three. A 44 year old injury plagued pitcher who might even retire if he was traded and is probably a swingman at best at this point in his career. And last but not least an injury plauged SP with over $20MM left on his deal with control issues. I bet the Yankees would trade AJ Burnett and the Giants would trade Barry Zito too. How is this news? They didn’t come out and say they’d trade Lester or Pedroia or something. Some of their worst contracts and players without defined jobs or players being pushed out by younger better players are available in the right trade…kinda just like every other MLB team.

    • wickedkevin 4 years ago

      How insightful of you.

      • hrbomber1113 4 years ago

        How completely unfunny of you.

        • jordan 4 years ago

          yankee fan? figures

          • hrbomber1113 4 years ago

            um no? guess you’re not so hot at being insightful yourself. it wasn’t a bash on the red sox. Every team has players they’d like to deal…that was the entire point of what I said. you’re pretty sensitive. Red Sox fan? figures. See? I can make random guesses and say vague unfunny things too.

          • wickedkevin 4 years ago

            Series of events: Red Sox Front office says some players are available, openly.
            Edes reports it.
            MLBTR then forwards report for all to read (as they do with every other story, no matter how redundant).
            You come on and point out its redundancy (which in itself is redundant).

            Your comment is as useful to everyone else as the original post was to you.

          • Nice summary.

            Your avatar is still gay.

          • wickedkevin 4 years ago

            Yeah, I made it when I was 15 and Yahoo won’t let me change it.

        • wickedkevin 4 years ago

          To each his own my friend….to each his own.

    • qbass187 4 years ago

      You had a point until Dice-K. “Injury plauged”? Not quite. He’s only had one real injury and that was a pulled groin muscle.
      I’d go as far as to call Beckett “injury plauged” but not Dice-K.

  9. john12121212 4 years ago

    Bosox are throwing out the trash lol, none of these guys are worth much!

    • FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

      well that makes no sense at all! Why would anyone try to get rid of trash? We should keep them!

    • Guest 4 years ago

      Dice-K is worth a #2 spot in any NL rotation except the Phillies. Yeah, he’s not worth much.

  10. BentoBox 4 years ago

    Matsuzaka’s starts are always painfully long and his walk rate drives me insane but he’s a decent fifth starter.

    • HerbertAnchovy 4 years ago

      The only problem with that is Daisuke isn’t paid like a 5th starter.

      • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

        he’s got way more upside than a fifth starter, particularly in the NL. and to any team but boston, he’s not all that expensive. it’s the sunk cost that was the posting fee that really chaps their asses

      • BentoBox 4 years ago

        Dice-K is being paid $10 M this year and next year. That’s not that unreasonable. People think he’s expensive because of the posting fee.

        Although his perks are quite jaw dropping. Wow.

    • qbass187 4 years ago

      It’s true. He gets alot of heat but he’s really not a bad pitcher, especially for the 5 spot.
      Painful to watch, yes. But he gets the job done…eventually.

  11. They mind as well hang a “free trash” sign around that crap. Just because they play in Boston doesn’t mean they have value. Crappy mcCrap crap

  12. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    if they really want a good catching prospect, Cardinals Bryan Anderson (former top 100 prospect, still very young, good minor league numbers minus injury filled 2009) could probably be had with Molina at the mlb level in front of him and Tony Cruz having an excellent AFL, ST, and 2010 season possibly tugging from behind. Not sure i would want Matsuzaka at that price, or even half that price though.

    • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

      he’s very obviously worth it at half the price, don’t be weird

  13. I think the Nationals are the best fit for Dice-K… only problem is getting him to approve the deal.

  14. Guest 4 years ago

    Scutaro to the Cubs. He can play 2b since they stink, stink, stink, at that position and we give them Silva and cash.

    • Ferrariman 4 years ago

      yes, i’m sure the red sox are lining up to trade their trash at a position of need for trash with no purpose.

      • Guest 4 years ago

        Well, you know what they say…garbage in, garbage out!

  15. Guest 4 years ago

    Dice-K to the Cardinals.

  16. josepht555 4 years ago

    Wow. This guy cost 100 million dollars and the genius GM is putting him out on the sidewalk. Wow.

  17. YankeePhan1234 4 years ago

    All I see is “Oh man we spent too much money on 2 guys, we gotta ditch anyone that isn’t that good that we overpaid in the past”.

  18. woadude 4 years ago

    Dice K would approve a trade to Seattle to play with Ichiro, the Red Sox can’t expect much in return if the Mariners take on his salary, but I am sure Jack Z and Theo can work something out, Matzuzaka to Seattle makes too much sense.

  19. EarlyMorningBoxscore 4 years ago

    Dice gets traded….Felix Doubront the new number 5 starter?

    • notsureifsrs 4 years ago

      wakefield, aceves, and maybe even andrew miller get a shot before doubront

  20. frank_costanza 4 years ago

    Where theres smoke theres fire. Sounds like one member of the Red Sox brass screwed the pooch and now the Red Sox are losing leverage

  21. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    As a Jay fan I’d take Scutaro back, he did well for us here and I’d rather have him leading off than rajai davis.

    Put him at 3b and move bautista back to RF.

    scuts 3b
    esco ss
    lind 1b
    bautista rf
    snider lf
    encarnacion dh
    hill 2b
    arencibia c
    davis cf

    looks good for 3-4 place in the division IMO

    boston doesn’t have too many holes, but they could maybe use another bullpen arm and some catcher depth

    so Jerolomann and Jason Frasor ?

    • 0bsessions 4 years ago

      Scutaro’s coming off of a shoulder problem last year that moved him to second base for the last month or so. I’m not sure third is a good spot for him.

      • Lunchbox45 4 years ago

        but his shoulder problems should be resolved? he’s obviously not going to play 2B for the Sox this year, so if he’s good enough to play SS, sliding over shouldn’t be too taxing on his arm.

        • 0bsessions 4 years ago

          Considering he’s my team’s starting shortstop, I’m hoping he’s okay, but they never did surgery, they just waited for it to heal. We’ll see, but I doubt the extra strain of moving to third would help him any.

    • grownice 4 years ago

      I think your underestimating what Davis will be able to do in the leadoff spot in Toronto’s lineup as opposed to Oaklands, i think the Davis , Escobar combo at the top of the order will be lethal for the Jays this year.

  22. Guest 4 years ago

    Yeah, the red sox are in big trouble.

  23. BoSoxSam 4 years ago

    Oh, shush.

  24. They call me Murphy 4 years ago

    The last two of which will definitely never, ever happen. Why would Tampa trade Longoria? And why would they trade him to Philly? Philly has nothing they want to give up. If I’m the Rays GM, I’ll trade you Longoria for Halladay or Ryan Howard + prospects.

    IF the Mets trade Wright, why would they EVER trade him to the team that wins the division every year? The only place David Wright is going to is the AL so the Mets don’t have to deal with him.

  25. So “YES” to guys that the Phillies have absolutely no shot in hell of getting, and “NO” to some potentially useful guys who probably wouldn’t cost much in return? Fair enough.

  26. johnsilver 4 years ago

    Wouldn’t discount the idea of Scutaro being moved, if not to the Phillies (just throwing out there) then to another team before the AS break. This is his last year under guarantee and he has had 2 pretty decent/solid seasons with the bat, plus last year even not able to lift his arm above his shoulder he didn’t do too bad defensively.

    Boston will more than likely be looking to move him woth both Lowrie and Iglesias later on coming up.

    They won’t get a ton for Scutaro, but someone will pay the 5-6m salary that loses a middle IF and give them a low-mid level prospect back eventually.

  27. CaseyBlakeDeWitt 4 years ago

    Please stop your nonsense

  28. Dude, as a fellow Phillies fan, you are embarrassing me with those ridiculous propositions.

  29. Nope, because of two very simple reasons, and not a jab at the Phillies’ farm system whatsoever which you were so quick to jump to.

    Evan Longoria is one of the best players in baseball on widely regarded as the most team friendly contract in baseball on a small market team who has made him their franchise player.

    David Wright is a perennial all-star and franchise player on an affordable contract who, for a big package, could possibly be moved, but certainly not to the Mets’ main division rival.

    So, yup. No shot in hell of getting. Don’t just assume I’m pissing on the farm system.

  30. You are one of the most unrealistic baseball fans I’ve ever came across. The stuff you say is borderline retarded, and you do it so frequently.

    Are you just trolling or are you genuinely spoiled by big-name players coming through Philly recently? Either way, you never have anything worthwhile to say.

  31. And aside from Brown, those guys you mentioned are all in the lower minors right?

  32. FrankTheFunkasaurusRex 4 years ago

    Do you see any of them anywhere near as good as Longoria or Wright?

    edit: I wouldn’t even trade longoria for all five of those guys. Wright, I would consider.

  33. Dylan 4 years ago

    No one has a shot at Longoria….no one…

  34. You also must be a football fan if you think there’s any chance of Wright or Longoria being traded to the Phillies. And don’t give me that BS again about how Longoria is wanting out of Tampa, you’re embarrassing yourself.

  35. qbass187 4 years ago

    Trading Scutaro and making Lowrie their everyday SS won’t happen. Not only can Lowrie not stay healty (yet)…then who is their utility infielder? Lowrie plays all 4 infield positions. He’s the only guy they have that can do that.
    Trading Scutaro opens up more holes then it closes.

    Now, cutting/moving Wake is another story.
    As much as I Love Wake he’s really dead weight right now.

  36. johnsilver 4 years ago

    They have that covered with Navaro and could even call up Iglesias if Lowrie was to get hurt. Navaro could be the utility player and if Lowrie DID get hurt, then Iglesias could play SS until Lowrie returned, much like Kalish made the jump from AA last season with the injuries.

  37. Plus, whatever package the Phillies offer it will likely be topped by another team if/when those guys do become available. This guy’s been saying this for months now…

  38. grant77 4 years ago

    All of this is really inarguable common knowledge. It’s not like teams are lining up to get a 31 year old journeyman OF or to pay 5 or 8 million for a utility infielder or backup OF, respectively.

  39. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    i still get chuckles about his idea of Pujols being a fit for Philly.

  40. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    an .800 ops at catcher is valuable. This isn’t a firstbaseman or corner outfielder, an .800 OPS at catcher means your doing pretty well off there. By comparison, Jarrod Saltalamacchia has a career minor league OPS of just a hair over .800 and he is what, 2 or 3 years older with more minor league time. Anderson’s ops is also weighed down by 2009 which i already said was injury filled/forgetful/outlier.

  41. No reason to rush Iglesias unless Scutaro gets them the kind of catching depth they want or some team takes Matsuzaka with him. I do like Navaro though, especially his arm. He can handle 3B 2B or SS in that regard.

  42. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    in your haste i think you weirdos are forgetting how scarce quality shortstops are

    scutaro was the 10th (of 21 qualified) most valuable shortstop in baseball during a down year last year. include 2009 and he’s 7th overall. for $6MM many teams would consider him a nice player to have around

  43. johnsilver 4 years ago

    What it looks like is they need to *maybe* find a catcher for a year or 2 until they get a chance to see until the 3 decent catching prospects they have shake out, being Lavarnway, Exposito and Federowicz. They don’t really need someone’s AA and down catching prospects to clog up the system since they already have MORE good catchers in Dan Butler and Cuban Ibarra just signed anyway. If anything, they need someone to help NOW or right at MLB ready and not clog up one of the deepest prospect positions the Sox have.

  44. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    lol

  45. Are you actually serious? You think Longoria is going to punch the Rays’ GM or owner in the face to get out of his contract? I would play that contract out, so would you, and so will Longoria. Why? Because he’s on a competitive team with an excellent farm system and smart owners, he’s still earning millions of dollars, and he will still become a free agent at a young enough age to land a monster contract (assuming he performs at the same level).

    The Mets never drop a pretense of winning because they have a ton of money, and they’re just starting to get out of some of their lousy contracts. Why on earth would they hand over their best player to their division rival? “Keeps salaries from escalating”? You really think the Mets and Phillies purposely trade off being dominant so they don’t have to pay their players as much?

    Still no shot in hell. Not even in the slightest.

  46. PJaysW 4 years ago

    drivel

  47. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    evan longoria is going to punch andrew friedman so that he can get out of his contract

  48. stl_cards16 4 years ago

    More proof you have no idea what you are talking about.

  49. grant77 4 years ago

    Like I already said, someone would probably take Scutaro for a bag of balls and they wouldn’t have to eat salary.

  50. Guest 4 years ago

    “If your boss cut your pay to one third of what you were paid would you continue to show up for work?”

    Whatever his contract stipulates, that is what is paid. So no one is cutting his pay short.

  51. RedSoxDynasty 4 years ago

    Surely, you can’t be serious!

  52. You're Killing Me Smalls 4 years ago

    When did the wacky shack get internet access?

  53. grownice 4 years ago

    Im speechless, and somewhat afraid for you after reading this and most of your comments. God Speed.

  54. MaineSox 4 years ago

    I’m going to the Verizon store Monday and punching the guy in the face so they’ll let me out of the contract. Then, if that works, I’m going straight to the bank to punch a few faces.

  55. Dylan 4 years ago

    Please stop….please?

  56. RedSoxDynasty 4 years ago

    You sure hes not a Babe Ruth type prospect!

  57. marisfan009 4 years ago

    Anderson was drafted at age 18 and was still growing in strength. He started his minor league career as a high-OBP guy for a catcher. He worked on developing some power in 2010, after he recovered from a serious shoulder separation and resulting surgery in 2009. Last season he added about 15 pounds of muscle; Anderson is much closer to filling out his 6’1″ frame than the skinny kid the Cardinals drafted on the 4th round in 2005. As a result, Anderson hit 12 HR in only 82 games at Memphis last season (in 302 plate appearances). He has a line-drive stroke (not an uppercut/home run swing) and a good batting eye, as he draws walks.

  58. PJaysW 4 years ago

    welp, that settles it, you win.

  59. MaineSox 4 years ago

    Wait. Are you sure?

  60. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    your own rationality has created a disqus account to reach you

  61. Lunchbox45 4 years ago

    scutaro is not worth arencibia, d’arnaud or perez lets be serious here.

    and I very much disagree about Frasor not being valuable to the sox. The bullpen is top heavy and needs some reliable arms for depth

  62. Ferrariman 4 years ago

    the reality is your probably not gonna get an elite prospect for junk like Dice-K or Scutaro so try aiming your sights a bit lower. Now if your logic is, if it isn’t improvement than don’t do it, than i can understand but to insinuate that simply because he has a career (LOOK AT 2009-OUTLIER) OPS under .800 makes someone a bad prospect is actually a bit laughable, especially at catcher. Jose Iglesias has a career OPS of just over .700 in the minors, does he suck too? No, because he is young, developing, plays a prime position, and overall has had little exposure. Anderson was never an OPS guy anyways, was always more of a high average/obp guy with his swing and overall makeup.

  63. notsureifsrs 4 years ago

    you are right that is just as outlandish as predicting that evan longoria will punch his GM in order to get out of his contract

  64. Are you sure? I’m pretty convinced by his arguments of “ZOMGZ! A handful of Phillies prospects will pry away star players from other competitive teams!” Based on my new perspective on the matter, I am assuming the Phillies will be able to trade for BOTH Longoria and Wright. Longoria at 3rd, Wright… utility player? After that, they can sign Pujols in the offseason and put him in at catcher or 4rth outfielder! It will be awesome!

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