Red Sox Open To Offers For Matsuzaka, Others?

7:51pm: One Red Sox official has called the ESPNBoston story "false," tweets Edes. According to Edes, however, his source was describing scenarios he'd been told by another Sox official. GM Theo Epstein also disputed the report, writes John Tomase of the Boston Herald.

5:49pm: The Red Sox moved a little closer to finalizing their Opening Day roster today by reassigning a number of players to minor league camp. Before April 1st rolls around, however, the club appears open to making more significant roster moves. Gordon Edes of ESPNBoston reports that the Red Sox "have let it be known" they'll listen to trade offers on a number of players expected to start the year with the team.

According to Edes' source, Daisuke Matsuzaka, Tim Wakefield, Mike Cameron, Darnell McDonald, and Marco Scutaro would be available in the right deal. Some of those players would likely draw more interest than others. Matsuzaka, for instance, in addition to having a full no-trade clause, is owed $10MM this season and has struggled so far this spring. So while Edes writes that the Red Sox would move the right-hander if they could "add to their young catching inventory," finding a deal that works could be tricky.

Cameron and Scutaro have been identified as potential trade candidates previously this winter, given Boston's depth at their respective positions. As for Wakefield, Edes' source says the 44-year-old is "on the bubble" and could be available for a left-handed reliever. Though his 2011 role with the Sox is up in the air, the knuckleballer said earlier this week that he can't imagine playing anywhere besides Boston.


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112 Comments on "Red Sox Open To Offers For Matsuzaka, Others?"


piro18
4 years 5 months ago

Ill take Scutaro on the Phillies. Could make up for the lose of Chase Utley a bit. Plus he is in the final year of his contract I believe.

4 years 5 months ago

According to b-r.com, Suctaro was worth 2.2 WAR for the Sox last year at $5M, or $2.25M per win. Wilson Valdez was worth 1.7 WAR at a salary of $381K, or $225K per win despite only playing half of the season. Therefore, Valdez on a WAR basis is at least 10x’s more of a value at his price than Scutaro is at his.

In layman’s terms, no thanks.

4 years 5 months ago

Ok, since my previous comment apparently had to be approved by a moderator first, I’ll summarize.

I would much rather take Wilson Valdez’s 1.7 WAR at $400K over Scutaro’s 2.2 WAR at $5M. By WAR metrics Valdez is 10x’s the value on a $ per WAR basis.

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

lol

4 years 5 months ago

lolzzzzzzz!!!

xfipMachine
4 years 5 months ago

You go ahead and take Valdez’s career .240/.289/.326. Smart.

4 years 5 months ago

On which planet is the difference between Wilson Valdez and Marco Scutaro’s worth $5.5M?

I get it, you don’t like the WAR/$ analysis. But you better do better than quoting Valdez slash line before I think about adding $6M for a guy who hasn’t played a meaningful 2B since 2004.

4 years 5 months ago

its not about that when you are trying to win. It’s just who is better. If the want to win why wouldnt they take a better player?

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

crazy talk!

4 years 5 months ago

That’s fine, I agree that Scutaro is the better player. Now as soon as the Sox are wiling to eat about $5M of the $6M Scutaro is owed in 2011, I’m sure Amaro will be more than happy to put together a mutually beneficial deal.

Otherwise, I’ll stick with Valdez.

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 5 months ago

Yup and good luck finding a taker for Blanton cuz by you’re logic the Phils are gonna have to eat about 14 of the 16 remaining on his contract too cuz he sux!

JB3
4 years 5 months ago

I’m going to go out on a limb and say Wake won’t be dealt. He says he can’t imagine playing anywhere else and he has 10-5 rights.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

You beat me to the 10-5 rights. I doubt he approves to leave.

johnsilver
4 years 5 months ago

Not to mention I’d rather have him as the #5 over Matsuzaka anyway. No other reason? In the AL Wake can throw a masterpiece every 3 games or so and give just as many innings as Matsuzaka can every time out.

Matsuzaka needs to be in the NL anyway..He moves over there and his game improves vastly.. A Blanton type x2 stuff wise.

qbass187
4 years 5 months ago

Wake was baaaaaddd all last season and is looking bad this spring.
I’ll take Dice-K over Wake, right now, any day of the week .

dwarfcatt
4 years 5 months ago

Wake can join Bronson Arroyo in the “Living proof you never take a hometown discount with the Red Sox” camp

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

yea he’s really pissed at them over how he’s been treated his entire career. hates the red sox so much

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

Meh, I’d take off Wakefield and replace him with Lowell. How is it a hometown discount at age 44?

dwarfcatt
4 years 5 months ago

on reflection, i regret that comment – when you are 44 you are pretty lucky to get what you get

Holidayjesus
4 years 5 months ago

Theo, I will trade you this awesome candy bar for Dice K. But you have to pay off his contract of course.

4 years 5 months ago

I don’t think they will accept that.

Pete
4 years 5 months ago

What are you going to have him do? Mow your lawn?

Holidayjesus
4 years 5 months ago

Mow my lawn and have him pitch to the local beer league.

Fangaffes
4 years 5 months ago

On days that Papelbon can’t close, Dice-K can start warming up in the 4th inning so he can be the one to walk the park full in the 9th.

jnolan33177
4 years 5 months ago

Utley isnt out or lost yet, they announced he has gotten a lil better today.

4 years 5 months ago

And Amaro said this regarding that baby step…..

“”I don’t know if it’s good news or not good news”

Tko11
Tko11
4 years 5 months ago

It doesnt matter how he feels today, the condition he has is tricky. One day you feel great and then the next day it can hurt more than ever before and vice versa…or at least this is how it was explained on the radio for the past week.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

One of nats catchers for Dice-K? ill take that, as long as the sox pay close to half the salary

4 years 5 months ago

I bet he’d do better in the NL (maybe). Can’t figure this guy out. Which catcher do they give up? From what I’ve heard Flores is the most likely to be dealt and he doesn’t match up as well with what the Sox would want if they’re after more of a “prospect.”

RedSoxDynasty
4 years 5 months ago

Why are Wake and McDonald even mentioned here? Wake will retire if he doesn’t make the team and McDonald won’t fetch equal value to what he brings to the sox and he’s cheap!

Encarnacion's Parrot
4 years 5 months ago

I’ve heard a rumor that the Angels like to take on big contracts..

hrbomber1113
4 years 5 months ago

Gee, YA THINK??? A 35 year old SS who’s had one really good year and had a wOBA of .319 last year. A 38 year old OF coming off a ton of injuries with a fairly large contract for this year. It’s tough to tell if age, the move to the AL East, or injuries was the main culprit but I’m guessing it was a mix of all three. A 44 year old injury plagued pitcher who might even retire if he was traded and is probably a swingman at best at this point in his career. And last but not least an injury plauged SP with over $20MM left on his deal with control issues. I bet the Yankees would trade AJ Burnett and the Giants would trade Barry Zito too. How is this news? They didn’t come out and say they’d trade Lester or Pedroia or something. Some of their worst contracts and players without defined jobs or players being pushed out by younger better players are available in the right trade…kinda just like every other MLB team.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

How insightful of you.

hrbomber1113
4 years 5 months ago

How completely unfunny of you.

jordan
4 years 5 months ago

yankee fan? figures

hrbomber1113
4 years 5 months ago

um no? guess you’re not so hot at being insightful yourself. it wasn’t a bash on the red sox. Every team has players they’d like to deal…that was the entire point of what I said. you’re pretty sensitive. Red Sox fan? figures. See? I can make random guesses and say vague unfunny things too.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

Series of events: Red Sox Front office says some players are available, openly.
Edes reports it.
MLBTR then forwards report for all to read (as they do with every other story, no matter how redundant).
You come on and point out its redundancy (which in itself is redundant).

Your comment is as useful to everyone else as the original post was to you.

4 years 5 months ago

Nice summary.

Your avatar is still gay.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

Yeah, I made it when I was 15 and Yahoo won’t let me change it.

wickedkevin
4 years 5 months ago

To each his own my friend….to each his own.

qbass187
4 years 5 months ago

You had a point until Dice-K. “Injury plauged”? Not quite. He’s only had one real injury and that was a pulled groin muscle.
I’d go as far as to call Beckett “injury plauged” but not Dice-K.

john12121212
4 years 5 months ago

Bosox are throwing out the trash lol, none of these guys are worth much!

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
4 years 5 months ago

well that makes no sense at all! Why would anyone try to get rid of trash? We should keep them!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Dice-K is worth a #2 spot in any NL rotation except the Phillies. Yeah, he’s not worth much.

BentoBox
4 years 5 months ago

Matsuzaka’s starts are always painfully long and his walk rate drives me insane but he’s a decent fifth starter.

HerbertAnchovy
4 years 5 months ago

The only problem with that is Daisuke isn’t paid like a 5th starter.

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

he’s got way more upside than a fifth starter, particularly in the NL. and to any team but boston, he’s not all that expensive. it’s the sunk cost that was the posting fee that really chaps their asses

BentoBox
4 years 5 months ago

Dice-K is being paid $10 M this year and next year. That’s not that unreasonable. People think he’s expensive because of the posting fee.

Although his perks are quite jaw dropping. Wow.

qbass187
4 years 5 months ago

It’s true. He gets alot of heat but he’s really not a bad pitcher, especially for the 5 spot.
Painful to watch, yes. But he gets the job done…eventually.

4 years 5 months ago

They mind as well hang a “free trash” sign around that crap. Just because they play in Boston doesn’t mean they have value. Crappy mcCrap crap

Ferrariman
4 years 5 months ago

if they really want a good catching prospect, Cardinals Bryan Anderson (former top 100 prospect, still very young, good minor league numbers minus injury filled 2009) could probably be had with Molina at the mlb level in front of him and Tony Cruz having an excellent AFL, ST, and 2010 season possibly tugging from behind. Not sure i would want Matsuzaka at that price, or even half that price though.

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

he’s very obviously worth it at half the price, don’t be weird

Nevertheless
4 years 5 months ago

Been wondering for a while…

4 years 5 months ago

I think the Nationals are the best fit for Dice-K… only problem is getting him to approve the deal.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Scutaro to the Cubs. He can play 2b since they stink, stink, stink, at that position and we give them Silva and cash.

Ferrariman
4 years 5 months ago

yes, i’m sure the red sox are lining up to trade their trash at a position of need for trash with no purpose.

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Well, you know what they say…garbage in, garbage out!

Guest
4 years 5 months ago

Dice-K to the Cardinals.

josepht555
4 years 5 months ago

Wow. This guy cost 100 million dollars and the genius GM is putting him out on the sidewalk. Wow.

YankeePhan1234
4 years 5 months ago

All I see is “Oh man we spent too much money on 2 guys, we gotta ditch anyone that isn’t that good that we overpaid in the past”.

woadude
4 years 5 months ago

Dice K would approve a trade to Seattle to play with Ichiro, the Red Sox can’t expect much in return if the Mariners take on his salary, but I am sure Jack Z and Theo can work something out, Matzuzaka to Seattle makes too much sense.

EarlyMorningBoxscore
4 years 5 months ago

Dice gets traded….Felix Doubront the new number 5 starter?

notsureifsrs
4 years 5 months ago

wakefield, aceves, and maybe even andrew miller get a shot before doubront

frank_costanza
4 years 5 months ago

Where theres smoke theres fire. Sounds like one member of the Red Sox brass screwed the pooch and now the Red Sox are losing leverage