Blue Jays Bid $50MM For Darvish

The Blue Jays bid over $50MM for Yu Darvish, falling just short of the Rangers' $51.7MM bid, according to Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star. Here's the latest on the Blue Jays’ division, starting with a right-hander who spent three up-and-down seasons in Toronto… 

  • Several teams are kicking the tires on acquiring A.J. Burnett, but the Yankees will have to absorb significant salary to make a deal and Burnett can veto trades to ten teams per year, according to George A. King III of the New York Post.
  • The Yankees bid less than $20MM for Darvish, according to Andrew Marchand of ESPNNewYork.com.
  • Orioles GM Dan Duquette explains the team's shrinking pro scouting department to MLB.com's Brittany Ghiroli. "In an effort to make an impact on the franchise, I can argue that the scouts are most valuable to a team at the amateur level,” Duquette said. “They can have a bigger impact on this organization.”
  • Former Rays catcher Toby Hall has decided to retire, according to Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times. The 36-year-old spent seven seasons with the Rays and last played in the Major Leagues in 2008. 
  • Dan Hayes of the North County Times hears the Rays are one of the teams that has asked the Padres about Anthony Rizzo (Twitter link). However, the Padres, who have been flooded with interest, aren't matching up that well with the Rays at this point, according to Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio and ESPN.com (on Twitter).
  • MLB executives expect Gio Gonzalez to be traded relatively soon now that Darvish is no longer available, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com (on Twitter). The Red Sox are among Gonzalez’s suitors.


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134 Comments on "Blue Jays Bid $50MM For Darvish"


MB923
3 years 8 months ago


Several teams are kicking the tires on acquiring A.J. Burnett, but the Yankees will have to absorb significant salary to make a deal and Burnett can veto trades to ten teams per year, according to George A. King III of the New York Post.”

I’ll take a bag of balls for him.

3 years 8 months ago

Ok, but you have to give the bag back.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

We keep the bag and give you back A-Rod instead. 

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Or we’ll just keep the bag.

3 years 8 months ago

Teixera or the deal’s off.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Deal off.

Next topic, manager exchanging. You give us Wash for our next ALDS and ALCS, we’ll give you Joe for your next WS (Hey they are a combined 5-0 in those)

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

Francona’s a free agent and he’s 8-0 in the WS.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Francona FTW

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

I wonder if the Jays bid $51.6 million

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

I can’t imagine what profanities AA would be yelling if they did. If they were serious about Darvish then that knowing they were just 200k off would suck.

3 years 8 months ago

I doubt this report is completely accurate, but if it is, it’s good for the Rangers. It would at least mean that they didn’t outbid everyone else by a large amount…just enough to win. As I said, this news would not get out though.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Either way you think about it though. Spending only 300k more than the Dice-k bid for a far superior pitcher and winning the bid is impressive in its own right.

3 years 8 months ago

Yea, it is. I’m cautiously excited about this. They’ve made me happy I renewed my season tickets again this year. I’m sure i’ll see that posting fee when my ticket renewal form comes in the mail next year though.

$21002046
3 years 8 months ago

He’s not superior to anyone until he pitches in MLB…..

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Speaking directly about stats from Japan, Darvish is superior to Dice-K. Speaking in terms of stuff and make up, Darvish is younger, taller, has better stuff, sick offspeed pitches, and sky high potential, he is vastly superior over Dice-K.

$21002046
3 years 8 months ago

IF he is effective in the U.S. and IF he stays healthy he may be worth getting excited about. Fully 90% of Japanese “greats” have been below average big league players. Karl Spooner was better than Sandy Koufax at one time too. Get back to us in a couple of years and I may agree, but until he does something, anything in the majors, he’s not even superior to Vin Mazzaro

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

With the Matsuzaka bidding, teams could at least say “Seriously? Wow, didn’t see that coming” considering the next highest bid was something like $30MM. If this report is accurate, that’s got to hurt.

That said, I don’t doubt its accuracy. Toronto and Texas were considered the two biggest suitors and reports coming out ahead of the bidding were that Darvish and his representation would be insulted by anything less than what Matsuzaka’s posting fee was, meaning anyone seriously interested was apt to top that $51.1MM fee.

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

I’m pretty sure knowing you were off by under a couple million on a bid exceeding fifty million has got to be plenty demoralizing enough that it only being a difference of 200K probably wouldn’t be any worse.

Either that or the Jays just weren’t all that serious with their $50MM+ bid.

Lunchbox45
3 years 8 months ago

demoralizing is the absolute best word to describe this scenario.

Imagine convincing owner ship that this is the best bet, and then falling so short..

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

It sucks as it is the Jays were the only other serious competiter for Darvish. What a downer.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

So assuming they were willing to dole out the posting fee and then 5/80 or whatever to sign him means that they should have money to spend. Time for AA to place a call to Mr. Boras re: Edwin Jackson and Ryan Madson.

3 years 8 months ago

I don’t believe a word of that reported Jays bid.  There’s no way Griffin knows, as the Jays would never let it leak (which they made very clear today in an AA conference call).

johnsmith4
3 years 8 months ago

Not even Paul Beaston?  I wonder if James Paxton has an opinion on the matter?

dredog
3 years 8 months ago

What does Kevin Gray say?

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

Maybe the leak was in Japan?

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

the nippon ham fighters only get information on the top bid, so they wouldn’t know what the Jays bid.

renegadeisback
3 years 8 months ago

According to Griffin’s sources/drinking buddies.

3 years 8 months ago

not to be confused with bob elliott’s drinking buddies

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago


The Blue Jays bid over $50MM for Yu Darvish, falling just short”

Ouch.

“Burnett can veto trades to ten teams per year”

I totally misunderstood that for a second. I was just imaging a scenario of the Yankees basically asking and asking and then upon getting to the eleventh potential suitor saying “Ha! You’re maxed out on your NTC!”

“The Red Sox are among Gonzalez’s suitors.”

Is this remark just in here to tie in all 5 ALE teams? It seems rather out of place.

101andCounting
3 years 8 months ago

I think it’s more because it’s Heyman’s column. It’s not like he’d go a whole column without scratching the Red Sox behind the ear*

*This was originally a much more obscene metaphor, but I didn’t want to tick off the mods.

JacobyWanKenobi
3 years 8 months ago

I think it’s so that this post shows up in the twitter feeds of redsox fans for more page views. 😀

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

AJ will win 14 games for the Yanks this year. Burnett is 121-111 in 12 seasons with a 4.10 ERA not too shabby. This is better than Don Larson for his career.

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

John Lackey won twelve for the Sox this year, doesn’t change the fact he stunk out loud. Yeah, it’s entirely feasible Burnett will have fourteen decisions that come up as wins for him, but the Yankees offense will have a lot more to do with that than him not being a bad pitcher.

slider32
3 years 8 months ago

John Lackey isn’t pitching this year, he will get no wins. Dice K insn’t pitching this year he will get not wins, Johan Santana didn’t pitch last year, and go no wins. Who would you rather have.

Are my only two choices AJ Burnett or Don Larsen?

3 years 8 months ago

LOL, I remember him being up something like 11-0 after the second and he couldnt even make it to the fifth inning to get the decision. He left in the 4th with the score at 11-7 or something close to that.

3 years 8 months ago

if the issue is simply not having enough amateur scouts, why not just hire more? how do they expect to do their homework on young talent in other organizations??

3 years 8 months ago

This whole blog story is about players except for the Orioles section.

Duquette is talking about scouts!

What is wrong with this picture?

Come on Dan Da Man step up to the plate with Angelos and convince him to sign Oswalt and Kuroda and leave Prince Fielder for another team!

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

thank god you arent running the orioles.

3 years 8 months ago

You type this because you live a life of fear!
Live a little Caca… Live a little!

cacavolante
3 years 8 months ago

no, i type this because i just lived through a string of mediocre to brutal gm’s and i finally see a guy trying to clean up our scouting and player development and im encouraged by it. besides it would probably take 15 mil to get oswalt here and i can watch the pitchers we already have get hit all over the yard for much cheaper than that.

Wilsonl
3 years 8 months ago

Another Gonzalez for the Red Sox?

0bsessions
3 years 8 months ago

God, I hope not. Someone’s going to overpay for him and I don’t want it to be us.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah a combination of high walk rates and facing the AL East offenses day in and day out doesn’t scream success to me. Sox would be wise to look elsewhere. Honestly, wouldn’t it make perfect sense to pick up a Oswalt or Kuroda on a short term deal?

3 years 8 months ago

Someone’s going to pay Oswalt 10 million to rehab his back at their facility. 

3 years 8 months ago

A less talented Gonzalez.

No Neck
3 years 8 months ago

Missed it by THAT much

johnsmith4
3 years 8 months ago

LOL AA = Get Smart

* Edit * AA must also have a “cone of silence”

soxxxxx
3 years 8 months ago

wouldnt exceeding Dice K’s bid have made some sense? It just seems strange to bid 100,000k less than the dice-k bid

Lunchbox45
3 years 8 months ago

 nothing about the bidding system makes sense

if the rangers had bid 49 million you would applaud AA.

The winner wins, thats it

Jose_Bautista
3 years 8 months ago

There is no definitive proof of 50MM bid from Jays. All speculation. Nowhere in the article it’s confirmed.

No one from Jays front office including GM has either confirmed bidding or not bidding. So yes, WE WILL NEVER KNOW.

It’s just bunch of speculations, there couldve been NO bid. Or a bid less than 30MM.

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

For Jays fans that had their hopes built up sake, I really hope they bid over $50MM.  If not all of this was just hype and they were never really serious about landing Darvish.  With how good he has been in Japan, you knew it was going to be right at Dice K’s record.

Encarnacion's Parrot
3 years 8 months ago

Dear Griffin: Please stop trolling my already torn heart.

joeybw
3 years 8 months ago

How?

Padres have too many 1B, Rays need a 1B. Rays have too many SP’s (if possible) and Padres need one.

This is one of the GM’s trying to rip the other one off. Either Friedman is offering some mid level prospect SP instead of a Wade Davis type or Byrnes is asking for Shields.

Bob
3 years 8 months ago

for real just give them Wade Davis.

Rangersfan32
3 years 8 months ago

You want Davis? If I was going after a Rays starter, Davis would be near the bottom of my list.

joeybw
3 years 8 months ago

Dude, that’s kinda the point. I’m a Rays fan.

3 years 8 months ago

i would hope byrnes is asking for hak ju lee

3 years 8 months ago

I would hope he likes the sound of laughter. Beckham would be closer.

3 years 8 months ago

a borderline non-prospect who showed some signs of life this season and can’t stay at shortstop which significantly hurts his value, for a top 20 offensive prospect in the game..riiight

lee had an outstanding season at a difficult position to fill, but he’s still a bit away from the majors. rizzo tore up AAA at the same age of lee, there’s value on both sides of this proposal.

AirmanSD
3 years 8 months ago

“Padres have too many 1B, Rays need a 1B. Rays have too many SP’s (if possible) and Padres need one.”

There is the misconception. The Padres don’t need a SP, they would not mind netting one provided he has higher upside then their current options. The Padres currently have ready for the majors Stuaffer/Luebke/Richards/Volquez/Moseley/Bass. None of them are top flight, but neither is Davis. In addition the Padres have Kelly/Castro/Erlin/Wieland/Oramas/Hernandez all in AA or higher and near ready. Pitching isn’t what the Padres are targeting, unless it clearly institutes an upgrade.

The Padres are still after hitting and position players specifically at SS. The Padres want a prospect that matches Rizzo’s value that plays SS, that’s the problem with the match up. The Rays don’t want to give up Lee (which would be an overpay), and that has to be who the Padres want for Rizzo. According to minorleagueball’s John Sickles the both rate as B+ type prospect the difference being the positions and SS is far harder to find then a 1B. But that is irrevelant to the Padres, SS is the only true weakness in their system. Thats the hole that the Padres hope to fill in any Rizzo deal.

Remember the Padres have at least 2 option years remaining with Rizzo, this isn’t something that have to do right now. Depth is never a bad thing.  

Beersy
3 years 8 months ago

You are correct.  The last thing the Padres need to do is trade Rizzo for a mid rotation starter, they have plenty of those on the way.  If they can’t pry a SS from somebody, an athletic outfielder who can hit for average and field wouldn’t hurt either.  If Byrnes can’t work an extension out with Maybin they will have to replace him down the road.  I’ve said it before on here, Rizzo to the A’s for Choice.  That deal would benefit both teams.

3 years 8 months ago

The A’s don’t want a 1st basemen. They already have Barton, Brandon Allen, Chris Carter and Kila Ka’huehue(whatever his name is). Choice is about the only decent prospect they have. They aren’t giving him up. 

3 years 8 months ago

If you cant remember his name, he probably isnt worth much,

Beersy
3 years 8 months ago

Bartons’ bat really doesn’t fit the 1st basemans role, Rizzo would be an upgrade.  Carter can play the outfield and the A’s also could use Rizzo or any of these guys at DH.  As for their farm system, I think Parker, Green, Gray, Cabrera, and Taylor would have something to say about the A’s only having one decent prospect.

Fstuffup
3 years 8 months ago

50 MILLION!?! NOOOOOO!!! I would rather have them not bid at all than lose by that much such a heartbreaker!!!!!!

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

Do they lose that money or get it back?

joeybw
3 years 8 months ago

They get it back. Even the Rangers get their money back if they can’t sign him.

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

Oh, that’s not bad but should have bid 55 mil just to lock him up.

joeybw
3 years 8 months ago

They had no idea what the other teams bid but they had to figure 50 mil+ would be enough.

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah but you had to know it was gonna be a little more than Dice K.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

nope, no one “had to know”

Lunchbox45
3 years 8 months ago

I’m surprised it got this high

I was thinking 40-45 million easily takes it

sammykhalifa
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t understand baseball any more.  They think it’s an outrage that will not stand for teams to pay 5 million to a second-round draft pick, but are totally cool with the idea of sending out $50MM just for the rights to talk to someone and maybe get him to play.

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

Great point.

3 years 8 months ago

I agree partially, but at the same time Darvish is ready to come over and contribute now, where as draft picks usually take 3-4 years or so to develop.

3 years 8 months ago

But we don’t know what TX is getting with Darvish

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

It’s not for the rights to talk to him, it’s to buy him out of his obligation to play for the Nippon Ham Fighters. If there was no posting fee the Fighters would be losing their best pitcher for nothing.

sammykhalifa
3 years 8 months ago

Okay.  So why isn’t it OK for the Royals to buy Bubba Starling out of his obligation to be a quarterback for Nebraska, or for the Pirates to buy Josh Bell out of his decision to go to Texas? 

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

Um, what? That’s exactly what they did.

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

double post woohoooooooo

FrankTheFunkasaurusRex
3 years 8 months ago

ROGERS IS CHEAP BLAH BLAH BLAH

Lunchbox45
3 years 8 months ago

can’t believe they didn’t bid an extra 1.8 million! gosh!!

nestleraisinets
3 years 8 months ago

trade burnett to the mariners for 1 wii for CC…

NYPOTENCE
3 years 8 months ago

Please someone take this heap of s*** off the Yankees’ shoulders. I bet he would do fairly well in the right situation just not in the “bright lights”.

Lunchbox45
3 years 8 months ago

As a jay fan, this may be shocking to hear.. but I don’t want him here

MeOnTheInternet
3 years 8 months ago

AA got outsmarted, too cute with the bid and lost

3 years 8 months ago

outsmarted? how can you outsmart someone on a blind bid?

H E I N Z
3 years 8 months ago

The same way you get outsmarted in The Price Is Right when you bet 1 dollar more. 

The thing is, for some reason they figured nobody was gonna bid what people bid for Dice K….Rangers took the rumours that Yu wanted his posting to be higher than Dice K’s because he feels he’s better than him. Rangers took the chance and bid a little higher…..and won.

IMO. outsmarted. 

but I’m glad AA and Rogers were willing to spend 50MM +.

AJCBE
3 years 8 months ago

But on the Price is Right, everyone knows each other’s bid, so that analogy fails. Jays put out what they were comfortable with. That’s all you can do in this system. Has nothing to do with being outsmarted.

YODA777
3 years 8 months ago

The only way the Rays get Rizzo is by starting with Lee and adding another prospect.  Rizzo is rated the number 1 first base prospect in all of baseball.  Furthermore, outside of the offensive stiffling Petco Park,  Rizzo will become a masher.  Lee would fit into the Padres collection of excellent elite prospects, as they really do not have an upper level shortstop prospect at the moment. 

AirmanSD
3 years 8 months ago

Stop. Please. Its a dream if you think that Rizzo is worth more then Lee. Yes, Rizzo has a chance to be an elite level masher at 1B. But you are really undervaluing Lee here. Lee has a chance to be above average both offensively and defensively at SS. The both could bust or both become all-stars. But at this point they are both unproven prospects, with basically equal overall value. The difference is that one is that shortstops are harder to produce. Thus Lee has greater value even if he is slightly further away.

Besides you have to look at how it impacts the Rays to make that deal. The Rays have had problems filling their long term SS as well. Lee might be the answer, which is why they will value him more then if they had a SS truly entrenched at the position.

But that is just my position. I for one don’t understand the Rays fans who believe that Davis is worth Rizzo, but I also can not understand Padres fans who think he is worth something of a package of prospects.