Rojas Source: Hanley Prefers Trade Over Position Change

WEDNESDAY: The Marlins have every intention of Hanley being their third baseman next year, president Larry Beinfest said at today's Jose Reyes press conference.

TUESDAY: Hanley Ramirez isn't on board with the idea of moving to third base and would rather be traded than switch positions, a "credible source" told Enrique Rojas at ESPNDeportesLosAngeles.com (link in Spanish).

"Hanley doesn't want to play third base and the Marlins were informed of that," the source told Rojas. "Rather than ask for a trade, what he has done is to inform (the team) that he does not want to play another position other than shortstop." Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post has also verified with a Marlins official that Ramirez did not ask to be traded (Twitter link).

Ramirez's agent Andy Mota told Rojas he had no comment about the situation, but the player himself posted a resigned-sounding Tweet this morning, saying, "What I am gonna do is work hard and get ready for next season because that is the only thing I can control I love y'all!!!!"

Rojas also spoke with Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen yesterday in Dallas, and the skipper said he had spoken with Ramirez before Reyes was signed and plans to revisit the discussion soon. "He has to understand what is best for the club, and he'll be a better player with those two guys [Reyes and Emilio Bonifacio] in front of him in the lineup," Guillen said. "The last thing we would do is smack the kid and tell him, 'You've got to move.' That's not the way… I think the boy will have the opportunity to be an All-Star third baseman. We have the opportunity to have two all stars in those positions."

Both owner Jeffrey Loria and president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest suggested recently that Ramirez would ultimately defer to Reyes, and that a trade wasn't on the table. A week ago, before Reyes had signed, Ramirez expressed deference toward the possibility in an appearance on Dominican TV, saying "the front office has the last word." Ramirez played just three games worth of third base while in the Red Sox system, most recently in 2005. His -4.8 UZR in 2011 was firmly in the bottom half of NL shortstops, directly behind Reyes and in front of Bonifacio, who took over the six-hole when Ramirez underwent shoulder surgery in August.


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271 Comments on "Rojas Source: Hanley Prefers Trade Over Position Change"


Cosmo3
3 years 8 months ago

Marlins prbly should have run this by him first…

3 years 8 months ago

Pretty sure they did…

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

Then they should have known this was gonna happen .

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

You still have to do what’s best for the team and HanRam is horrible at SS. He makes Jeter look great.

gradylittle
3 years 8 months ago

Whoa! Yankee fan admitting that Jeter is horrible at Shortstop?!

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Umm a lot of Yankee fans know he’s a bad SS. Just like many people know you’re a pretty bad manager.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Speaking of the Yankees, they have been very quiet the past few days, makes you wonder what thos sneaky sons of b*tches are brewing up..

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Nothing. The Marlins already snatched up the best free agents.

gradylittle
3 years 8 months ago

“Just like people know you’re a pretty bad manager” 

Why you gotta be like that?

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Why did you leave him in?

gradylittle
3 years 8 months ago

He was on fire!

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Is that Gradyspeak for “his arm was about to fall off, but since it wasn’t completely detached from his body…”?

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

And he got pissed on. :)

gradylittle
3 years 8 months ago

I don’t like talking about it. 

flickadave
3 years 8 months ago

That’s why Jeter moved when the Yanks signed ARod, right? Oh, wait…

3 years 8 months ago

Jeter’s attachment to short is as sick as Hanley’s.

chico65
3 years 8 months ago

Sure didn’t take long either.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 8 months ago

Which explains why he’s unhappy now.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 8 months ago

Which explains why he’s unhappy now.

mattinglyfan
3 years 8 months ago

Why? He’s not the manager of the team and he isn’t what I would consider a team leader.

Rabbitov
3 years 8 months ago

Hanley just has these feelings, bottled up inside.  If he can’t play SS he’s going to write a nasty page in his diary. 

3 years 8 months ago

Hanley needs to be quiet and do what his manager tells him to do. In my mind, he isnt good enough yet to be demanding trades.

rsanchez1
3 years 8 months ago

Well, his ego is inflated enough for him to think that way. Too bad Fredi the Failure never had the spine to put him in his place.

paul_oneills_lovechild
3 years 8 months ago

His ego’s writing checks his body can’t cash…
 

MaineSox
3 years 8 months ago

Just taking a page out of Michael Young’s book.

imachainsaw
3 years 8 months ago

and once the season starts he’ll say “naw I wanted to stay here all along guys, ima team player lol”

Craig Carlton
3 years 8 months ago

And I assume you gave a pass to Michael Young’s shenanigans last preseason then, right?

3 years 8 months ago

Michael Young has proven himself already with 10 good years for the Rangers, 2000+ hits. Hanley hasnt done anything yet.

imachainsaw
3 years 8 months ago

are you serious? Hanley has put up better seasons than MY. in fact Hanley is better across the board. don’t say stupid things man, like you can say you appreciate michael young and will his diva moment a pass, but don’t say hanley hasn’t done anything, when we all know that’s not true.

3 years 8 months ago

Michael Young has proven himself already with 10 good years for the Rangers, 2000+ hits. Hanley hasnt done anything yet.

3 years 8 months ago

Hanley needs to do what his manager tells him to do. In my mind, he isnt good enough yet to be demanding trades.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

How about Loshe and Westbrook for Hanely..

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

sarcasm? is that you?

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Yes.. a brother can dream cant he?

3 years 8 months ago

I guess you also regularly dream of Playboy models seducing you. That has as much chance of coming true as that horrific trade proposal. In fact, you have a better chance with the Playmates, that’s how bad that offer is.

3 years 8 months ago

They aren’t Latin enough…

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Sorry. Loshez and Westbrookirez

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

I didn’t want to “like” this comment but I couldn’t help it. 😉

Chris Infante
3 years 8 months ago

Red Sox need a legit SS, Marlins need a legit 3B….Youk for Ramirez! MAKE IT HAPPEN BEN!

commenter3346
3 years 8 months ago

The Red Sox offense is fine. They need pitching, not a mediocre defensive short stop with attitude problems, especially the latter part.

commenter3346
3 years 8 months ago

The Red Sox offense is fine. They need pitching, not a mediocre defensive short stop with attitude problems, especially the latter part.

onemanwolfpack
3 years 8 months ago

hanley was a red sox once…your not getting him back.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Yes he was on the Red Sox. The GCL Red Sox, not the Boston Red Sox.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

What else are the Sox sending?

MaineSox
3 years 8 months ago

Nothing, but only because it’s never going to actually happen.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

What else are the Sox sending?

3 years 8 months ago

And I thought the offer from The_Birds was stupid/silly. This one is worse.

EdinsonPickle
3 years 8 months ago

Selfish much?

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

The Marlins are going to be a fun team to keep an eye on.  Either they’ll be really good.  Or they’ll be a really good show.

jhfdssdaf
3 years 8 months ago

Like Jersey Shore?  Painful to watch, but you can’t tear your eyes away…

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Dont worry Miami… Hanely will still get to play SS once Reyes gets hurt on openning day!

Rabbitov
3 years 8 months ago

Its about time the elephant in the room got out. 

3 years 8 months ago

Bonifacio is still better defensively than Hanley though…

3 years 8 months ago

Here come the “Hanley to the Red Sox” trade offers.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Reddick, Lowrie, and Lars Anderson should do it.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

lol

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 8 months ago

He’s just joking… We wouldn’t just give them Anderson without expecting Johnson.

John McFadin
3 years 8 months ago

Like, and if there was an option, keep hitting the like button on an infinite loop.

John McFadin
3 years 8 months ago

Like, and if there was an option, keep hitting the like button on an infinite loop.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Johnson? You forgot about Stanton!!

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 8 months ago

Sigh. Fine. We’ll take him off their hands but only if the Marlins offer to pay for a majority of Hanley’s salary.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

And they are willing to take John Lackey I heard too.

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Johnson? You forgot about Stanton!!

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

That deal isn’t happening without Bowden!!!

start_wearing_purple
start_wearing_purple
3 years 8 months ago

He’s just joking… We wouldn’t just give them Anderson without expecting Johnson.

woadude
3 years 8 months ago

Throw in Michael Bowden, they will need top tier pitching to be included.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

And it all comes crashing down for the Malrins.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I posted that this was gonna happen the other day when Reyes signed and all the Marlins wanted to say was ‘na he’ll be fine and WANT to play third . He and Reyes are good friends’ . Yeah right !!

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I posted that this was gonna happen the other day when Reyes signed and all the Marlins wanted to say was ‘na he’ll be fine and WANT to play third . He and Reyes are good friends’ . Yeah right !!

Rabbitov
3 years 8 months ago

Jesus I never realized Hanley was such a doofus. 

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

doofus?

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Acronym for “poo-poo head”…

sharenski
3 years 8 months ago

synonym*

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

M&M!  

BAM!!

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

M&M!  

BAM!!

Rabbitov
3 years 8 months ago

You my good friend would be first buckaroo in the grammar rodeo. 

3 years 8 months ago

Do you know what an acronym is?

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

Jack, we’re having a conversation about “doofus” and “Poo-poo heads”  and you’re trying to teach what an acronym is.

Come on Maan!

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Brain fart….lol.  So much for that Masters degree turning into anything useful.

3 years 8 months ago

Good lord man, that’s 2 comments in this thread that you should have let simmer in your head for a bit before hitting “post as…”

Rabbitov
3 years 8 months ago

I thought his explanation was awesome, because no matter what else he said, he said poo-poo head.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Yeah nothing else should matter when that “word” is used on this board.

Please keep that in mind people, as I plan on using it again after getting six likes.  Heh.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

 has had gator mouth for a long time. Gotten into trouble over refusing to cut his hair and ran his mouth, over the club trading his buddies, but Loria has usually backed him up and smoothed things over, like buying him that huge gold neck chain with his number on it one time you might have seen Ramirez wear a time or 2?

How well his diarrhea of the mouth would go over in NY, as well as his poor SS play is another matter and can just about guarantee the Fish would empty what little the mets have in their prospect chain to even think of acquiring him. Therefore think any Mets fans hopes of getting him is premature at best.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

In his defense, it’s not like he himself said it publicly.

That being said can someone remind him he’s a horrible SS?

MB923
3 years 8 months ago

Yes. Even worse than “Num buh 2″

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

It was public enough on Foxsports/marlin broadcasts, especially the time he refused to cut his hair and Fredi Gonzalez benched him, he talked some more. Gonzalez and Ramirez went back and forth for a few days before Loria stepped in and bought him that gold anchor he wears around his neck now.

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

I meant the recent part about complaining about playing SS.

Interesting thing. I just moved to the Miami area and when I was staying at a local resort one of the employees works for the Marlins in one their charitable/community organizations and I was sort of ragging on HanRam. She was brutally honest about a lot of his short comings, especially on defense, but she had nothing but praise about him, saying how great a guy he is and that the “lazy” tag was the complete opposite of who he was because he was usually the first player in the weight room, at workouts and usually one of the last ones to leave. She also said how it’s sort of a “Latin” thing that she felt was misconstrued as “lazy”. She’s white so I don’t think she had a motive to play “that” card. She seemed sincere. She also says Loria absolutely loves the kid…like a son.

johnsilver
3 years 8 months ago

Was going to ask your take on information since seemed to recall that you live now in the southern part of the state, closer to Miami than I do and what I get is mostly from Foxsports south and other central florida media, while you get it 1st hand, plus a few latin media outlets and you know what?

Cookie Rojas is harder on him IMO than most others are if that gives you some type of perspective and am NOT trying to throw any race thing into this. Maybe it has to do with how much effort rojas put into his fielding when he played and took pride into it also and how much he despises that OF type mitt Ramirez uses also and at times will go on and on about.

mgsports
3 years 8 months ago

2B or Reyes to 3B or 2B.

3 years 8 months ago

you don’t give 106 million to a guy you want to play second base

DownLow Bi-guy
3 years 8 months ago

I think Pedroia or Cano would be worth Reyes money at 2nd

YanksFanSince78
3 years 8 months ago

Both of those guys are worth that and maybe more at 2b now.

bravesdude
3 years 8 months ago

I think the guy wants to play SS . If HE can’t play it (which he won’t now) for the Marlins , then he’ll ask to play SS for someone else .

3 years 8 months ago

Then trade him. You don’t want someone who values themselves above his team.

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

Lohse for Hanley!!!   

yes, it was sarcasm

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Throw in Westbrook

no, not being sarcastic.. just throw him in.. get rid of him

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

Throw in Westbrook

no, not being sarcastic.. just throw him in.. get rid of him

walrusgod
3 years 8 months ago

I’m pretty sure we’d throw in Westbrook, too.

*Edit: Ha, apparently in the time it takes to read down the comments and comment on this, someone beat me to the punch. Cards fans don’t have much faith in either Lohse or Westbrook right now, do we?

3 years 8 months ago

That’s too bad, because Hanley sucks as a shortstop.

GriffeyandSizemore
3 years 8 months ago

There is gonna be so many bad trade proposals on this post i can’t wait!

3 years 8 months ago

Brandon Inge for Hanley!   Hahahahaha!

AJCBE
3 years 8 months ago

And this year’s Michael Young Award goes to…

$3513744
3 years 8 months ago

???

3 years 8 months ago

Inb4 they sign Pujols and Hanley sucks it up and plays third

3 years 8 months ago

Inb4 they sign Pujols and Hanley sucks it up and plays third

miamiroc
3 years 8 months ago

Reyes + Pujols > Hanley

Works out better if they trade Hanley anyways, they can use the money to sign Buehrle. Stanton, Pujols, Reyes, and LoMo can more than hold it down. Bonifacio can play at 3rd.

stl_cards16
3 years 8 months ago

and when they don’t get Pujols

Reyes < Hanley

YaGottaBelieve11
3 years 8 months ago

Wrong.

YaGottaBelieve11
3 years 8 months ago

Wrong.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

How about Pujols hasnt signed?

miamiroc
3 years 8 months ago

Obviously, trading hanley is completely dependent on whether or not they sign Pujols.

The_BiRDS
3 years 8 months ago

How about Pujols hasnt signed?

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

I think the Marlins always knew this, I think they put the rumor out there that Hanley would switch positions so it wouldnt stop Reyes from coming. That’s why they keep going for position players and after that they will move Hanley for pitching.

3 years 8 months ago

I doubt it. This is just another rumor! 

3 years 8 months ago

Dom Brown, Jesse Biddle and Polanco for HanRam. It’s goin down.

baseball52
3 years 8 months ago

LOL

nats2012
3 years 8 months ago

Marlins would want pitching for him.

vtadave
3 years 8 months ago

Brown and Worley

Darren
3 years 8 months ago

The Marlins implode in 3… 2… 1….

theguy17
3 years 8 months ago

Barry Zito for Hanley straight up!!!