Tigers Willing To Deal Jacob Turner

The Tigers have made it known to other teams that they are willing to trade Jacob Turner in a deal for the right pitcher, tweets Buster Olney of ESPN.com.  The Tigers have seemed willing to deal the right-hander in the past but this is the first indication that they are actively advertising Turner's availability.

Turner, 20, had a big fan in A's GM Billy Beane and was discussed as the centerpice for a deal that would have brought Gio Gonzalez to Detroit.  Ultimately, Gonzalez was shipped to the Nationals as the Tigers were unwilling to part with prospects Nick Castellanos and Drew Smyly in addition to Turner.

It's hard to say who the "right pitcher" for Detroit might be, but the Tigers are one of the clubs who are in the mix for Cubs right-hander Matt Garza.  Last season, Turner spent the bulk of the year with Double-A Erie where he turned in a 3.48 ERA with 7.1 K/9 and 2.5 BB/9 in 17 starts.


138 Responses to Tigers Willing To Deal Jacob Turner Leave a Reply

  1. YaGottaBelieve11 4 years ago

    Jon Niese?

  2. Richard Ellard 4 years ago

    Trade Turner, but trading Smyle would be a mistake!

  3. John Czech 4 years ago

    I really think that Turner will be traded before the start of Spring Training. Bums me out for a selfish reason because I just bought one of his autographed cards. As long as we trade him for someone that can help I guess; though I really do like this kid. 

    Sure in a sample size at the MLB level he looked ok. Who knows what he can do with 31 starts.

    • Josh Gedert 4 years ago

      I’d be the one losing here! I have his 2011 ST GU jersey signed, 2010 BP jersey signed, and 25 autographed cards/baseballs/photo’s and his debut ticket signed. So, Cubs fans if you’re interested let me know :)

  4. I just hope this doesn’t mean they are so locked into “win now” mode they do another Jair Jurrjens for Edgar Renteria type deal.

    • JacksTigers 4 years ago

      They learned from their mistakes.

    • 14 Rocks 4 years ago

      You can have Jurrjens back for Turner (though Castellanos would be even better)…hehehehe

    • If they did, Detroit would have traded him for the likes of Gio Gonzalez

  5. cubs223425 4 years ago

    Dear Theo Epstein:

    You now have 24 hours to trade Garza for a deal with Turner and Castellanos. Get on it.

    Sincerely,

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SAVE THIS TEAM!

    • JacksTigers 4 years ago

      No way in hell you get both.

    • John Czech 4 years ago

      If he wants Castellanos the deal WILL NOT happen. Dombrowski said no to the A’s for Gio because they wanted Castellanos. He will not do the trade if Epstein wants him in the deal as well.

    • Richard Ellard 4 years ago

      LOL, YOU will get Turner but not Castellanos also!

    • tigers22 4 years ago

      No way in hell you’re getting both….sorry.

      • Neil Tatro 4 years ago

        Dont worry, we’re gonna gladly take Turner and Smyly instead

        • Richard Ellard 4 years ago

          You will not get both!

        • JacksTigers 4 years ago

          You’re not getting Turner and Smyly either.

        • verlander 4 years ago

          Keep dreaming.

          • BillB325 4 years ago

            I’ve seen over pays before, but I think there is no way the Cubs can get Castellanos and Turner in the same deal. They could get Smyly and Turner but only if it was a 2 for 1 deal and nobody was added. I think the best the Cubs could do is a Turner, Oliver, and Paulino deal.

          • Tigers94 4 years ago

            If they want them both, Starlin Castro is a Tiger

    • wrestlingcritic 4 years ago

      You are dreaming if you think you are getting both

  6. stewie75 4 years ago

    if i’m the cubs, i offer to take inge off their hands if it’ll push the deal into garza for turner + smyly or castellanos. that’d be a $6MM reduction in payroll. hell, throw in dewitt and jeff baker in with garza too.

    • Richard Ellard 4 years ago

      @Stewie you can have Turner and Oliver not Turner and Smyle or Castellanos.

    • John Czech 4 years ago

      You can have Brandon Inge for free right now if you’d like.

      • stewie75 4 years ago

        that’s the point, no one wants him, he’d be used as salary relief($5.5M salary + $500K buyout in 13) rather than an actual desirable piece. kind of like the baron davis to the cavs deal last year.

    • He’s got five-and-ten rights, and I doubt he’d be so gracious to accommodate the Tigers.

  7. kaywizz22 4 years ago

    Burnett for Turner??? :)

  8. Jarret Schneider 4 years ago

    Gee can you throw in Porcello and all your other bust prospects too

  9. Nathan Fenstemaker 4 years ago

    Inge only has a year left on his deal, the Tigers aren’t hard up for cash, they would probably just waive him if they are going to get rid of him. They did it with Shef and Robertson in the last year of their deals.

  10. Jarret Schneider 4 years ago

    The fact that Detroit fans cannot spell Smyly correctly proves they have no clue about the farm system or the prospects in it, merely by name

    • Tigerfan93 4 years ago

      The same person misspelled it twice. The fact that you have to call out someone for misspelling an uncommon name shows LOADS about your real life character. 

    • wrestlingcritic 4 years ago

      Or they just don’t concern themselves with their farm system year in and year out becuase they have a respectable major league club and they arent picking wilidly away at their triple a club in order to claw to a .500 record at the end of the year

      • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

        Most baseball fans who have any serious interest in their team usually knows at least a little bit about their top prospects, seeing as those are the guys said fan will be watching in 2-3 years.

    • Someone is lonely and has nothing to do tonight..

    • verlander 4 years ago

      False dichotomy.

    • brucekennedy 4 years ago

      Now spell all the names in the Red Wings system.

  11. briankoke 4 years ago

    Turner to the Padres, Rizzo to the Cubs, Garza to Tigers to start. Add a few pieces here and there to make it work.

    Headley to the Tigers too for a big confusing 3 way deal?

    Padres get B. Jackson and Turner.
    Tigers get Headley and Garza.
    Cubs get Rizzo, Smyly, and Castellanos.

    • Dynasty22 4 years ago

       That’s a decent start.

    • Caballo14 4 years ago

      Bad trade for the Tigers moving their top 3 prospects for Garza and Headley (Headley is nothing special)

      • briankoke 4 years ago

        Headley is much better than he is given credit for. Get him out of Petco and he’s a potential all star. He’s also young and under control.

        Yeah all 3 might be a little much. Take one of the Tigers top 3 out add a lesser prospect and the Padres kick in another prospect.

      • Amish_willy 4 years ago

        How many 3b have been more valuable than Headley over the last two years?

        Not a trick question, but at the same time answering that will prove your point to lack merit. Assuming your a Tigers fan, and having looked up the production they got from 3b last year… of all people to criticize Headley, I’d think a Tigers fan would be one of the least likely. Headley is not a star, but a well above-average regular in his prime with three years of control left. He out hit Hunter Pence when you look at what each did away from their home parks, not to mention being a ton cheaper.

        • Caballo14 4 years ago

          If you couldn’t tell from my pic, I’m not a Tigers fan but a Yankees fan. And 3B that were better than Headley the last two years

          No perticular order:
          Evan Longoria
          Adrian Beltre
          Alex Rodriguez
          Aramis Ramirez
          Pablo Sandoval
          Michael Young
          David Wright

          • Ferrariman 4 years ago

            you have to remember defense and affordability.  Headley is a better defender than everyone except Longoria and probably on par with Beltre and the cheapest, plus look at his H/A splits. Its pretty legit.

          • baseball52 4 years ago

            A-Ram couldn’t play good defense at 3B if Brooks Robinson was standing behind him.

          • slider32 4 years ago

            There’s no way to cut down an immortal, you look foolish, and don’t start with the steriods, 90% of the players were using something.

          • briankoke 4 years ago

            So he’s in the top third of MLB 3B? That’s pretty good.

    • Neil Tatro 4 years ago

      HAHAHAHAHA u must be a padres fan

      • Amish_willy 4 years ago

        Headley & Rizzo nettng B. Jackson and Turner doesn’t seem out of line to me. I like Turner a lot more then Brett Jackson, whom I think is over-rated. For instance I wouldn’t trade Rizzo for Jackson strait up as Jackson doesn’t scream perfect fit.  

    • JacksTigers 4 years ago

      Not Castellanos.

    • Beersy 4 years ago

      That trade would be good for all teams involved.  I glad I read through all of the posts before I posted the exact same thing.

  12. Chioakcisco 4 years ago

    This just in: Oakland A’s trade entire team for Jacob Turner.

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      This just in: Tigers decline and hang up the phone.

  13. JunKim 4 years ago

    If Tigers seriously want Garza, it would cost them Turner plus one other good prospect whether if it is Castellanos or Smyly and some low level lotto prospects.  That is the price Cubs are seeking and if not interested then so be it. There are plenty of other teams interested in Garza’s service who just had top 10 WAR season last year with 2.95 FIP.

  14. Ben Roth 4 years ago

    I’m good with trading Turner. I love the kid. I saw his MLB Debut. However, I like Drew Smyly a lot more. If anybody asks for Turner and either Smyly or Castellanos it should be and has been an immediate no. I think that Turner, Oliver, Avisail Garcia, and Bruce Rondon should be a haul that would entice Theo.

    • Neil Tatro 4 years ago

      we wouldnt touch Garcia with a 10 foot pole.. hes horrendous! he struck out 12 times more than he walked

      • Ben Roth 4 years ago

        His eye does need work. However, ive seen him play multiple times. The kids got amazing talent. Scouts routinely compare him to Vlad.

        • baseball52 4 years ago

          Vlad didn’t fit the Theo mold either.

        • Bob 4 years ago

           him and 25 other Latin kids who strikeout entirely way to much

        • I’m a Tiger fan, and I would be shocked if Garcia ever becomes a major league player.  He had a .294 OBP and 11 home runs last year in High-A as a 20 year-old, and the K/BB ratio is what you would expect if you brought a 20 year-old up to the majors.  At 20, he’s young, but he’s just about at the level he should be at.  Also, the power still needs to develop.  While he’s much more likely to develop power than make adequate improvements in plate discipline, that’s still another question mark.  This is also a corner outfielder we’re talking about, not a shortstop or catcher.  If he cut the ratio in half next year in high-a, and maintained that at each level into the  major leagues, he would come up as a 24 year-old corner outfielder with Austin Jackson K/BB numbers.

    • Hawkguy 4 years ago

      Turner, Porcello, Rondon, and Danny Worth for Garza and Barney.

  15. SupBro69 4 years ago

    ERA against Cleveland 4.81, ERA against Chicago 4.73, ERA against Minnesota 3.86, and ERA against Kansas City 3.83. Don’t know if hes worth it for Turner. 

  16. stewie75 4 years ago

    theo and jed can easily let him prove him how much more he’s worth next season and let 2 extra wild card teams jump in the mix with wining fan bases. is the offer really going to be any worse than 2 major players and a couple lotto 20 year olds?? i can’t imagine something like that wouldn’t get it done today or at the deadline.

  17. Vic_Petro 4 years ago

    Detroit gets Jurrjens
    Oakland gets Turner, Casey Crosby, 1 of McCann/Fields/Garcia, Pastornicky
    Atlanta gets Michael Choice and Cliff Pennington

    • LiveFastCyYoung 4 years ago

      Hahaha. Awful deal for Detroit.

    • what is this i don’t even

    • Seems you opted not to wait until midnight to get bombed

    • This makes too little sense to comment on! Who is Fields or Garcia and how are they exchangeable with McCann if I don’t know who they are?

      • RationalSportsFan 4 years ago

        Fields is Daniel Fields, Garcia is (I think) Avisail Garcia, and McCann must be James McCann, the catcher the Tigers drafted in the 2nd round this year.

        But, as everyone else noted, this trade is brutal for the Tigers.  They shouldn’t even be willing to give up Turner by himself for Jurrjens.

    • baseballdude 4 years ago

      oakland fan?

    • Leonard Washington 4 years ago

      So let me get this straight. Braves deal Jurrjens for a prospect and Pennington? And for some reason they would get the A’s involved and somehow the A’s would end up with all the best prospects? Wow. Just wow. 

      How about the Angels eat all of Pujols & Harens salary and trade them and Trout to Detroit for Victor Martinez and an actual tiger? 

      ……..seriously….

      • i think throwing in an actual tiger nets detroit weaver as well

      • verlander 4 years ago

        //How about the Angels eat all of Pujols & Harens salary and trade them and Trout to Detroit for Victor Martinez and an actual tiger?//

        I’d do that deal in a heartbeat, even though the tiger has high upside.

      • verlander 4 years ago

        //How about the Angels eat all of Pujols & Harens salary and trade them and Trout to Detroit for Victor Martinez and an actual tiger?//

        I’d do that deal in a heartbeat, even though the tiger has high upside.

    • verlander 4 years ago

      I will rain fire and death down upon all of MLBTR if that deal happens.

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Obviously an A’s fan

  18. Leonard Washington 4 years ago

    If they can get Garza they should do it. I mean they are probably gonna bring up Turner too early and ruin him anyway aren’t they?

    • RationalSportsFan 4 years ago

      I see people say this about the Tigers a lot, but I don’t see why.

      Who have the Tigers ruined by rushing?

      • Thomas 4 years ago

        Andrew Miller, Rick Porcello, and Andy Oliver say hello.

        • Come again?

        • verlander 4 years ago

          Andrew Miller also got the Tigers Miguel Cabrera, so I’m perfectly happy with “ruining” him.

          Still too early to tell on Porcello and Oliver, but keep pushing that narrative, bud.

      • Thomas 4 years ago

        Andrew Miller, Rick Porcello, and Andy Oliver say hello.

  19. Bob 4 years ago

    id try to move Porcello before Turner.

    • Let_Timmy_Smoke 4 years ago

      paging Andrew Miller…you could argue they rushed Porcello and Oliver, Turner perhaps

      • RationalSportsFan 4 years ago

        Jury is still out on Turner and Oliver, as each has only had a cup of coffee (so it would be strange to already claim that rushing them ruined them).  Porcello has been solid (2 WAR/yr) and is now a healthy 23 yr old w/ 500 MLB IP…not a bad spot to be in.  Miller had a total of 37 games in the Tigers’ organization, so even if they rushed him, his failure to develop can’t be pinned on the Tigers.

        I’ve also seen people mention Bonderman, but he developed into a very good pitcher before his arm blew out 6 years in.

        It’s common to claim the Tigers ruin pitching prospects by rushing them, but the facts simply do not back up that assertion.

  20. Let_Timmy_Smoke 4 years ago

    sorry, responding to rational

  21. slider32 4 years ago

    Theo knows by now what he can get for Garza, so he either keeps him like the Sox did with Danks or he trades him to the Tigers, Yanks, Marlins, or Sox.

  22. Eric Foster 4 years ago

    A package around Turner is probably the best the Cubs will do, unless the Jays want to re-negotiate.
    Theo and Jed have GOT to make DD include one of Smyly/Crosby and another high-end, fringe prospect farther away.

    • this will not happen.garza is not worth that much.

    • Jarret Schneider 4 years ago

      I find it interesting that Detroit fans find Matt Garza not worth 2 prospects yet they are willing to settle for the Joe Saunders, Paul Maholms, and Edwin Jacksons in the world. The difference will show up once they make the playoffs and then maybe a few of their more educated fans will understand the importance. 

  23. you idiots think detroit will trade Castellanos! and Turner for garza??? I mean come on they could of had gio for that!!! what hell is wrong with you idiots

    • BlueCatuli 4 years ago

      Sounds to me like you’re insinuating Gio Gonzalez is a better pitcher than Matt Garza, but that just can’t be. I mean unless you think he’s more valuable because he has two more years of team control. Even then a team with a payroll like Detroit shouldn’t be affected by that.

      • RationalSportsFan 4 years ago

         Detroit’s payroll is big, but NOT necessarily flexible (i.e. Illitch won;t increase it substantially unless he has VERY good reason to do so).  Acquiring either would involve a commitment to significantly raise the payroll in coming years (lots of young guys to keep around as well).

    • Eric Foster 4 years ago

      Supply and demand.
      It’s not realistic to get Castellanos AND Turner, but the Cubs hold the best available starter on the market.
      Someone will overpay. 

    • Rangersfan32 4 years ago

      Gio Gonzalez is a worse pitcher than Garza.

      • RationalSportsFan 4 years ago

         Four years of control vs two years is a big deal.

  24. Dan_O62 4 years ago

    Turner, Iorge, Crosby and Garcia for Cain and Pill… Giants struggling to get 1 of their real good pitchers to resign means being proactive.

  25. Dan_O62 4 years ago

    6’4 1st baseman trapped behind many Giants prospects — clobbered 25 HRs last year at AAA. Tigs have no use for 1st baseman/dh but could showcase him in ST and in early 2012 then spin him for something else. Of course the key get would be Cain; any other piece added by the Giants would be gravy.

  26. batherton43515 4 years ago

    why garza?  cubs wanna let him go……must be something wrong.   No more than a number 4 for Detroit

  27. donbrake 4 years ago

    Hesitant to deal top prospect, but if we can get Garza or Jurrjens for Turner and someone else not named Castellanos, then I think it would be a good trade for us. We’d be a all right-handed pitching staff, but a totally solid one!

  28. Lastings 4 years ago

    …And he has his own television network there, it’s a lock…

  29. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    You might want to watch ‘your style.’ Tim’s gonna start crackin’ down on it.

  30. cookmeister 4 years ago

    did Tim tell you that?

  31. Guest 4 years ago

    Tim should take Jacob Turner to task. He hasnt lived up to the hype.

  32. Khabibulan 4 years ago

    BLEACHER CREATURE will be gradfathered in. He’s an icon.

  33. redsx968 4 years ago

    Yea… it’s part of the new commenting policy

  34. Encarnacion's Parrot 4 years ago

    The problem with the policy is if it were actually followed closely, there’d be no comments left untouched by the mods.

  35. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    What’s that supposed to mean? Are you gonna try to make me out to be an anti-semite again? Go troll somewhere else.

  36. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    And this wayyy different.

    The original said Tim should put Jack in his place. Then something that referenced a previous time when you called me an imbread and said I wanted to hurt Jason Marquis because he was Jewish.

  37. redsx968 4 years ago

    Except he won’t… Tim specifically addressed that and said he would make no exceptions. Also that rule is pretty blatantly made directly in response to Bleacher Creature and people’s complaints about him

  38. Guest 4 years ago

    huh?

  39. redsx968 4 years ago

    lol cool edit man…

  40. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    Interesting how this says something different from the email I got. Nice edit.

  41. Put the bottle and pipe down

  42. verlander 4 years ago

    Who is Hicks?

  43. baseball52 4 years ago

    And the needle. And the moon rocks. And the spice.

  44. Guest 4 years ago

    What are you talking about and what does this have to do with Jacob Turner’s WHIP of 1.141 not translating at the major league level?

    Do you feel he needs to develop a plus third pitch or will that effect his arm slot?

    Will he develop better in the National league in say Petco, a hitter’s black hole?

    Is his ERAplus a mirage of BABIP luck?

    Will one line posts drag down your qualitative vs. quantitative post ratio, or is it just your emphasis on using the “sometimes ‘Y’ as a vowel” rule too liberally? I surmise its just because you subscribe to your own posts and reply to them.

    But, I digress… Jacob Turner could be a solid #2 if his SO/9 remains consistant with his minor league workhorse like pitch counts and arm strength conditioning where he can repeat his pitches at the same velocity over 7 plus innings.

    Go Red Sox!

  45. JacksTigers 4 years ago

    I’m talking about how you edited your post to make me look like an idiot. Want proof? Nobody would say that a 20 year old top 10 prospect is not livin up to hype unless they were trying to hurry and change something. On top of that, your edit doesn’t make sense as a reply to my post. Your busted. Take a seat.

  46. cain is an actual no.2,unlike garza who could be a 2,3,or 4.to me cain is worth more.i would give the giants turner,crosby,fields & a low level prospect.but he must sign a new deal with the tigers  for the trade to happen.

  47. Dan_O62 4 years ago

    You’ve mixed up my post; I said Pill was behind better prospects (Belt) and that’s why they’d be willing to move him. Unless they consider Belt as an outfielder, Pill won’t be popping at AT&T unless some catastrophe occurs. But I concur, it likely would take a lot to get Cain, if SF chooses to move him.

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