AL East Notes: Ortiz, Kim, Longoria

A few notes to share coming out of the American League East …

  • An arbitration hearing appears likely for the Red Sox and David Ortiz, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOXSports.com. When the sides exchanged salary proposals earlier this month, the Red Sox offered $12.65MM, while Ortiz and his representatives at SFX request $16.5MM, so a pretty sizable gap exists. The 36-year-old DH posted a sharp .309/.398/.554 line and slugged 29 homers in 2011.
  • The Korean Baseball Organization is displeased by the Oriolessigning of 17-year-old lefty Seong-Min Kim to a minor league deal because of his age and is threatening to petition Major League Baseball, according to Eduardo A. Encina of the Baltimore Sun. Orioles GM Dan Duquette said he doesn't understand the complaint, as Kim and his family were both in favor of the move, and he is closer to 18 than to 17. 
  • Rays third baseman Evan Longoria said during an appearance on MLB Network's Intentional Talk that he has no regrets about the club-friendly extension he signed in April 2008, according to Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times"I can honestly say that I’ve never regretted doing it. I can look at myself in the mirror and say that I made the right decision. You never know, who knows, one or two years in I might’ve hurt myself and not been the player that I am today." The six-year deal includes three club options for what would have been free-agent years for Longoria. It could be worth as much as $45MM and will expire after Longo's age-29 season. 


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79 Comments on "AL East Notes: Ortiz, Kim, Longoria"


3 years 7 months ago

With regards to Longo, I think if you like the organization, and can make $45MM then it’s a good deal.  That’s plenty to live on, and you get piece of mind and security.

Also, did everyone see Jim Bowden’s trade proposals on ESPN?

JohnPaulP
3 years 7 months ago

Not to mention he’ll still only be 29 when his deal runs out if all those options are exercised.  If the stingy Rays think it’s worth paying him $15m/year, he should be able to land a 100m+ deal when he’s 29 no problem.

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

Blah, Stingy just isn’t the word I would use to describe it.

$7562574
3 years 7 months ago

that won’t happen though.

BostonRedSox777
3 years 7 months ago

What was it?

3 years 7 months ago

1. AZ trades Parra to DET for Andy Dirks, Don Kelly, Andy Oliver
2. TEX trades Martin Perez to MIN for Span
3. LAA trades Trumbo to TB for Davis
4. NYY trade Betances and Austin Romine to LAD for Ethier
5. STL trades Shelby Miller, Jon Jay, Zack Cox to BAL for Jones

Rangersfan32
3 years 7 months ago

Lmao at that Texas trade. Texas is gonna trade a top prospect in their system and in all of baseball for SPAN? No way.

lefty177
3 years 7 months ago

you better watch your back or SPANdemonium will respond to you…

lefty177
3 years 7 months ago

you better watch your back or SPANdemonium will respond to you…

Os54Fan
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll take the STL trade for Jones. Where do I sign.

Os54Fan
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll take the STL trade for Jones. Where do I sign.

Os54Fan
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll take the STL trade for Jones. Good for both teams.

Rabbitov
3 years 7 months ago

Its not good for St. Louis.  Very lopsided.

Os54Fan
3 years 7 months ago

I’ll take the STL trade for Jones. Good for both teams.

Snoochies8
3 years 7 months ago

That Seong-Min Kim named looked way too familiar, so I looked it up.

Crazy, the A’s signed a guy with the same name, only difference being that he’s a catcher….that definitely threw me off a little

3 years 7 months ago

Hopefully the Rays decide to draft a replacement if Longoria leaves, or they lock him up with an extension. Mike Moustakas from the Royals looks like a long term solution if Evan decides to chase the money. The Rays could ship Shields or Upton to KC, however the Royals value him very highly.

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

Not sure Upton is a viable piece to them, perhaps Shields.

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

Longo is under contract (including option years) through 2016, at which point Moustakas will be 28 and in his prime, and Shields and Upton will no longer be on the Rays. So…I don’t think the Rays will be trading Shields or Upton for Moustakas, and I don’t think the Royals are really looking to trade one of their franchise cornerstones.

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

I honestly believe Longo will be a Ray for life. After the 2016 option, the Rays can and will spend 5/90 for a franchise player. Even if their payroll must increase. 

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

I think Longo looks for atleast a 6+ year deal

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

I think Longo looks for atleast a 6+ year deal

Leonard Washington
3 years 7 months ago

Longo will be out of that contract just in time to score another big deal so there is no reason to worry on his part. Waaaaaaawaaaaa Korean league waaaaawaaaaaa, who cares? I think that about covers it.

3 years 7 months ago

Those Koreans are mad

3 years 7 months ago

Does Papi think he’s going to see an offer anywhere near $12 mil on the open market?

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

I bet he gets more than $12 mil in arbitration.

$7562574
3 years 7 months ago

does he ever get tested for p.e.d.?

Yankees420
3 years 7 months ago

You don’t seem to understand how arbitration works, Papi isn’t on the open market and he is guaranteed at least 12.65MM for 2012.

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

Somebody ask Dan Duquette to explain how a 17-year-old is closer to 18 than 17.

$7562574
3 years 7 months ago

what if he is 17? it’s not like mlb teams haven’t signed 15 year olds from dominican republic.
btw, the mlb should raise the age of latin american prospects when they are signed so that they don’t have to resort to the identity thefts.

BigPattyG
3 years 7 months ago

Even if the singing age were 18, you’d have 21 and 22 year olds trying to pass themselves off as 18.  I agree that the age should be raised though; the whole MLB system in the DR is very exploitative and gives rise to very unsavory businessmen.

BigPattyG
3 years 7 months ago

Even if the singing age were 18, you’d have 21 and 22 year olds trying to pass themselves off as 18.  I agree that the age should be raised though; the whole MLB system in the DR is very exploitative and gives rise to very unsavory businessmen.

letsgogiants
3 years 7 months ago

Well, he turns 18 in April, which means that right now he is over 17 and a half (17 yrs, 9 months), making him closer to 18 then he is 17. 

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

But…he’s 17. I mean, I don’t have a problem with them signing him, but it’s kind of silly to say that a 17-year-old is closer to any age other than his own.

$7562574
3 years 7 months ago

so you’d have problems with the ladies kinda taking some numbers off their real ages.

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

I’m smart enough to not tell “the ladies” what to do, but not smart enough to know what your comment has to do with this thread.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 7 months ago

Time doesn’t actually freeze for a year on your birthday.

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

17 doesn’t magically become 18 because Dan Duquette says so.

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

You forgot what you said earlier?

Hoosier_Oriole
3 years 7 months ago

Would it have made you happier if he had rephrased it to “He’s closer to his 18th birthday than to his 17th?”

Michael Moses
3 years 7 months ago

semantics people

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

In mathematics anything greater than or equal to 17.5 is increased to 18 when rounding.

3 years 7 months ago

For some reason “In mathematics” made me laugh.

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

And here I thought no one would get my sarcasm.

3 years 7 months ago

Everyone has very serious and important things to say. It would be a shame if someone didn’t realize how important this issue of rounding was to be honest

Colin Christopher
3 years 7 months ago

He’s a Korean, not a mathematic.

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start_wearing_purple
3 years 7 months ago

All Koreans are mathematicians. Just ask anyone who’s ever said a joke about Asians.

mstrchef13
3 years 7 months ago

What has the KBL so upset? It’s not like Japan where they would make money off the signing. My only concern about signing a young Korean is the required military service time.

3 years 7 months ago

They don’t like young KBO prospects leaving to go to MLB.

Loyalty is a big deal in S. Korea, and players are typically encouraged to stay in the country and play for a team there.

tgilfoy
3 years 7 months ago

I wish more Players were like Longoria, just wants to play the game to play the game and win, money isn’t his major motivation…………..Refreshing.

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

By taking less money Longo becomes a more likeable person, but it’s still one of the worst contracts. He should have done what Lincecum did, he would be making 20 million by now. He can rake! Same for Moore.

Mikey Roederer
3 years 7 months ago

I agree..and as somebody posted above, the less he takes in payroll the more they can spend on having quality people around him.If he takes up too much he ends up all alone..I also still love Jeff Weavers comments after his “Team Friendly” deal..”If I can’t find a way to live off 85M then I’m not very smart”

3 years 7 months ago

Wrong Weaver, though Pujols did accidentally call Jered “Jeff” at the press conference.

Mikey Roederer
3 years 7 months ago

I agree..and as somebody posted above, the less he takes in payroll the more they can spend on having quality people around him.If he takes up too much he ends up all alone..I also still love Jeff Weavers comments after his “Team Friendly” deal..”If I can’t find a way to live off 85M then I’m not very smart”

AnJrue
3 years 7 months ago

its a problem because he hasnt graduated high school, Duquette took him without permission of the KBO and the high school team.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 7 months ago

Took him?  He didn’t kidnap the guy.

OhthePossibilities
3 years 7 months ago

Took him?  He didn’t kidnap the guy.

3 years 7 months ago

Evan Longoria is the man, how much money does one person really need?

Hoosier_Oriole
3 years 7 months ago

Were this the Yanks, everyone would be singing a different tune, methinks, but the “lowly” O’s? They must have taken him in the middle of the night at gunpoint, right? NOT!! Let us not pretend that no one has ever signed a 17 yr old (almost 18, lol) before, ok?

Go O’s!

stl_cards16
3 years 7 months ago

If the Rays decide he’s making too much they can trade him for a huge haul. I think they’re fine with paying him but it won’t get to the point of declining the options.

3 years 7 months ago

If I were a superstar caliber player, I’d sign a deal like this.  It gives my team more room to bring in better guys around me to fill out the roster.  Better team = more WS Rings baby.

3 years 7 months ago

If only the Rays could get by the Rangers in the first round :(

bvw87
3 years 7 months ago

Or just get signed by the Yanks/Red Sox/etc. and get both…

3 years 7 months ago

If it makes you feel better, I wore my Longo jersey to Camden Yards on the last game of the year. (I’m an O’s fan).

I like to think it had something to do with what occurred in B-more and St. Pete that night.

3 years 7 months ago

Only 2 comments for Ben Goessling?  Why no love for him?

William Kafer
3 years 7 months ago

Obvious joke is obvious. Why so serious?

3 years 7 months ago

Ha.  Yes I’m aware.

3 years 7 months ago

Whatever you have to tell yourself man.

mstrchef13
3 years 7 months ago

If the Red Sox hadn’t fallen apart that night (or the rest of September for that matter) then the outcome of that one Yankees/Rays game wouldn’t have mattered now, would it?

mstrchef13
3 years 7 months ago

If the Red Sox hadn’t fallen apart that night (or the rest of September for that matter) then the outcome of that one Yankees/Rays game wouldn’t have mattered now, would it?

diesel2410
3 years 7 months ago

LOL Bitter McBitterson over here. It’s okay man, you’ll get through it eventually (not really). 

3 years 7 months ago

Touche

inleylandwetrust
3 years 7 months ago

Of course you like that trade. Two big prospects for a pretty good bat but one that has no business being at any position other than DH? 

slider32
3 years 7 months ago

No way, Either is a free agent after this year. Cashman has his team set, he made the best moves of the winter.

Onetimeaccount
3 years 7 months ago

I think Shields was likely to get anybody this offseason.

BigPattyG
3 years 7 months ago

Sounds like most professional sports leagues.

NickinIthaca
3 years 7 months ago

Who is up for free agency after this year as well…

NickinIthaca
3 years 7 months ago

Although Shields’ value was at an all time high, I really still couldn’t imagine he would net Moustakas, especially 1 for 1.

Yankees420
3 years 7 months ago

Clauses like that do exist (Sizemore’s old contract), but they don’t appear to be written into Longoria’s contract based on a quick look at Cot’s.  

Rabbitov
3 years 7 months ago

Lol ok.