NL Central Notes: Bedard, Garza, Greinke, Reds

Here are today’s NL Central notes, including thoughts from three of the division’s GMs on a few starting pitchers…

  • Pirates GM Neal Huntington said he’s cautiously optimistic about Erik Bedard this season, Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports. "Not that long ago, Erik was one of the better pitchers in baseball," Huntington said. "We still see good stuff. The challenge is going to be health.”
  • Cubs GM Jed Hoyer joined Casey Stern and Jim Bowden on MLB Network Radio and said he's hopeful to sign Matt Garza long-term because pitching is such a difficult commodity to obtain.
  • Brewers GM Doug Melvin told Bowden that he and owner Mark Attanasio plan to discuss an extension with Zack Greinke this spring (Twitter link). In this case, Melvin and Attanasio will be speaking to Greinke without relying on an intermediary. The right-hander is without an agent, unlike the overwhelming majority of players. Melvin recently cited deals in the $80MM range as possibly comparables for Greinke.
  • The Reds are a sleeper team for 2012, one scout told ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick (Twitter link).


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37 Comments on "NL Central Notes: Bedard, Garza, Greinke, Reds"


3 years 6 months ago

Boy, that’s a bold statement, scout-friend of Jerry Crasnick.

3 years 6 months ago

LMAO, that’s what I’m saying…I haven’t seen one “pro” not say the Reds will win the division..

Fizzzay
3 years 6 months ago

Get the Grienkster locked up.

eyeglass1
3 years 6 months ago

My scout friend told me that the Astros are the worse team in the league… amazing! :)

3 years 6 months ago

I know you are being sarcastic, but I think Seattle might have a worse record in 2012.  Their best position player last year was Brendan Ryan, and they traded away their second best starting pitcher.  If they avoid 100 losses this year, AND Jack Z is still employed, it will be a Festivus miracle.

lefty177
3 years 6 months ago

idk, i think i have to agree with eyeglass, at least the Mariners have an ace that can shut a team out every night, a ROY candidate DH, a future batting title candidate 2B, & Mike Carp (he doesn’t seem that bad)

Andrew Steven
3 years 6 months ago

I love how everyone forgets about Smoak just because he hurt  his hand and his dad passed away…

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 5 months ago

I don’t see them losing 100 games. I think they’re going to have a better offense with Ackley and Montero in the middle of their line up. Smoak could also develop into the hitter he’s supposed to be.

They might lose 99 though.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 6 months ago

The Brewers are dreaming if they think they are going to sign Greinke for around $80MM.  He’ll be a FA in 2013 and he only turns 29 in Oct. 2012.  He would be absolutely stupid to take anything less than 5 yrs/$18MM per.  More likely he should be looking at 6 yrs/$108MM minimum.  He should slot in just behind Hamels and Cain if they hit FA next winter.

3 years 6 months ago

But this is Zack Greinke….not your typical player. If anyone were to take less money it would be him. Hes been scouting pitchers for Milwaukee, seems a bit like he wants to stay there.

Otis26
3 years 6 months ago

I hope he does. People in KC have this fantasy that Greinke will re-sign with the Royals. As far as I’m concerned he can stay where he is.

He told KC to *(&%-off and sulked until he got traded. I was happy because KC got a huge haul of prospects in return…but he can stay there. The Royals should compete for the division in 2013, and Greinke’s one-and-done with the Brewers is exactly what he deserves.

Good riddance.

3 years 6 months ago

Why should you care?  Dude already said he doesn’t want NYC. 

And your brethren responded by saying he is too “soft” for the Bronx.

UltimateYankeeFan
3 years 6 months ago

I don’t care. And I’m fairly confident the Yankees management have no interest in him at all.  I was only voicing my opinion.  It’s unfortunate that you seem so intolerant of someone else’s opinion.  After all it’s not like Greinke is going to take my advice.

kidsmoke96
3 years 6 months ago

Brewers need Gamel to perform like the stud a lot of us MKE fans think he can be. And staving off ARam’s inevitable decline wouldn’t hurt either.

BarrelMan
3 years 6 months ago

If Gamel can adjust to the big leagues well, the Crew will be better than most people think

kidsmoke96
3 years 6 months ago

I’m optimistic that the M’s have upgraded their offense this year. But I think I just read that Gutierrez might be out for a while. And they’re talking about Figgins leading off. Always good to give a declining offensive player more AB’s than anyone else.

Andrew Steven
3 years 6 months ago

If Figgins still struggles even @ leadoff (which i’m pretty sure he will) He won’t be in the line up long.

Andy_B
3 years 6 months ago

How are the Reds a sleeper team?  I still think the cards are favorites, but the Reds are the sexy pick.  If you want a sleeper team it’s Milwaukee, that was a really good team last year, and while losing fielder hurts filling the hole they had at 3rd base will help offset it.

daveineg
3 years 6 months ago

Scouts loved the Reds last year too.  I remember articles saying the “scouts” weren’t high on the Brewers then too.  Do the scouts see Drew Stubbs lowering his K total below 200?  Reds can certainly contend but they need Stubbs to make better contact and Bruce to be more consistent.  Votto can’t carry them alone.

David Silverwood
3 years 6 months ago

I believe the Reds are capable of nosing out the Cardinals, biggest match-up problem is the Reds lack of hitting discpline.

monroe_says
monroe_says
3 years 6 months ago

The Reds won 79 games last year. To get to the playoffs they’re probably going to need to win at least 90. Latos was good for 3.2 last year. Madson and Marshall were good for 4.5 wins. Assuming those guys are replacing a big 0, they need 3 more. Meanwhile, they’ve got rookies at short and catcher – the two most pivotal position on the field – so who knows what they get from them. Rolen is a back spasm away from the DL (and Miguel Cairo). And, of course, Dusty will want to play Ludwick all the time. Cueto is poised for regression and the rest of the staff is full of question marks. For the Reds to win, a lot of dominoes need to fall in line. To say they are a “sleeper” sounds about right. The Cardinals are clearly the team to beat and why any Reds fan would want to be proclaimed the frontrunner is a mystery to me.

CC
3 years 6 months ago

WAR doesnt solve anything. Who was at SS last year? Cozart is an improvement. Mesoraco has potential but he might be worse than hernandez. Arroyo’s year was a fluke and stubbs and bruce can only get better. Chapman is a sleeper. He’ll come up sometime this year and be lights out. While you cant be a favorite over World Champs, the Reds have a good chance.

monroe_says
monroe_says
3 years 5 months ago

hey, I hope you’re right. The Cards and the Brewers are still quite formidable, though.

LazerTown
3 years 6 months ago

Agreed, but so many people write them off.  In my opinion they are hands down the best team in the central, yet many are still putting them behind the brewers and the cards. Pujols and Fielder out of the division will help them out so much.

3 years 6 months ago

If anything the division champ Brewers are the sleepers. Everyone is writing them off after Fielder left. They still have real good pitching and a decent offense.

kidsmoke96
3 years 6 months ago

Dusty Baker + Mat Latos = 60 day DL.
But I agree that on paper CIN has talent very capable of winning the NL Central.

3 years 6 months ago

Lol. “Hands down”? Really? They are very competitive. But so are the Cards and Brewers. I have no clue how they are “hands down” the best. They made some good off season moves, and Prince and Albert left. However, I think people are over estimating how much that’s going to affect the Brewers and Cards. Clearly a huge loss for both, however, Beltran and Waino and Motte and Furcal should make this team better than we were last year. ARam will at least soften the blow for the Crew.

Reds: 91 wins
Brewers:86/88 wins
Cardinals: 93-94 wins

Could go anyway though.

3 years 5 months ago

 Almost every baseball spring magazine I have picked up this year has the Reds picked to win the Division.   so like others I don’t know how they are the sleeper team.  This comment seems kinda blah anyway… lets see we need to write something about the central and mention the reds.  Ok here we go.  lol.. lame.

3 years 6 months ago

 Yeah and the BIGGEST CHEATER and FAKE in MLB in Ryan Braun…

3 years 6 months ago

Yeah totally

Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

 sadly, this will probably never go away

Lunchbox45
3 years 6 months ago

cards lose Pujols and win 3-4 more games this year?

k. 

3 years 6 months ago

Nor will this Josh Mohr troll. At least he’s cut back to only half his words being all caps…

Todd Smith
3 years 6 months ago

That’s kind of what happens when players cheat.

Andrew Steven
3 years 6 months ago

Then become a mod and quit crying. God this site is so lame now.

monroe_says
monroe_says
3 years 6 months ago

 and get back Wainwright, add Beltran and have Furcal for a full season … well, actually, having Furcal for a full season is probably a pipe dream.

Phillies_Aces35
3 years 5 months ago

You’re not going to get the Adam Wainwright of old… at least you shouldn’t expecting him to be. I think he’ll be very good but he hasn’t pitched since 2010.

Beltran might be a pipe dream too if he’s manning centerfield full time.