A.J. Burnett Rumors: Wednesday

The Pirates and Yankees are discussing an A.J. Burnett trade, as the Yankees look to unload some of the $33MM owed to him for 2012-13.  The latest:

  • Marc Carig of the Star-Ledger hears four teams are in the mix for Burnett and that "a deal will get done with somebody.“ 
  • The Yankees are engaging the Pirates and one other team about Burnett and a deal seems increasingly likely, David Waldstein of the New York Times reports.  It doesn't appear that Burnett would block a trade to either one of the two possible destinations.
  • The Yankees tried to convince the Angels that Burnett could be their fifth starter, according to Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com.  The Yankees would have obtained Bobby Abreu in the proposed trade, but Burnett rejected the deal because he'd prefer to play on the East Coast.
  • The two clubs remain at an impasse, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.  As the day before Yankees pitchers and catchers report to spring training, Saturday represents a soft deadline for the trade talks.  A trade is not likely with any of the three other teams interested in Burnett, as the Indians never got serious, Burnett will not approve a deal to the Angels, and the mystery team has lukewarm interest. 


116 Responses to A.J. Burnett Rumors: Wednesday Leave a Reply

  1. jeremiah15y 3 years ago

    Sounds like Pit has all the leverage here… wow, that’s strange to say

    • johnsmith4 3 years ago

      Yep….typically….you have leverage when dealing with a trade partner needing financial relief.  The longer you wait, the more amenable your trade partner becomes.

  2. Fizzzay 3 years ago

    Who’d have thought the Yankees would get hung up over 3 million dollars?

    • chico65 3 years ago

      The same people who expected the Red Sox to sit on their wallets this winter?

  3. UltimateYankeeFan 3 years ago

    Looks like yet another day of waiting around for something to happen.

    • chico65 3 years ago

      Sounds like just any other day in the offseason.  Can’t wait for pitchers and catchers to report in a few days!

    • formerdraftpick 3 years ago

      I think they are just trying to compete with the Yu Darvish signing announcement….didn’t that lead to an 8 month saga of rewriting the same thing and speculating on this site?

  4. Rick Garcia 3 years ago

    If the trade happens, does AJ start opening day for PIT?

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      Almost certainly not. But by the end of the season, it isn’t entirely out of the realm of possibility that he has become the team’s #1.

      • Ron Loreski 3 years ago

        I think it will be Bedard regardless if they get Burnett or not. Playing the Phillies on openeing day, starting a lefty gives them a better chance of winning.

        • James Attwood 3 years ago

          Bedard would be my guess as well. The biggest question about Bedard is whether or not he stays healthy enough to last for PIT.

          • $3513744 3 years ago

            There is no question.  He won’t.

        • Phillies_Aces35 3 years ago

          Not necessarily. Other than Utley, there won’t be any other big lefty bats in the line up.

          Odds are the Pirates are going to win that series anyway… our offense disappears at PNC.

    • Todd Smith 3 years ago

      Either Burnett or Bedard, I would assume.

  5. $3513744 3 years ago

    I’m more stumped as to why he won’t approve a trade to the Angels knowing that the Pirates are his only other suitor right now.  Yikes.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      He has an NTC for all the western teams, so, unlike many NTC clauses that include strategically selected teams this is quite obviously about regional comfort. There are a lot of stories circulating out there that his wife is less than thrilled with the idea of air travel. If that is indeed the case, then it’s not a big surprise if he sticks to his NTC, as that means the NTC is acting as a “quality of life” clause in his contract.

      • maybe they dont like to be sweating through out the summer.

        • $3513744 3 years ago

          They should be able to afford air conditioning.

        • raffish 3 years ago

          If they don’t like sweating through the summers they should be jumping at the chance to play on the west coast!

    • NathanielS 3 years ago

      He doesn’t want to win a World Series as much as please an unreasonable wife? Keep him please.

      • YanksFanSince78 3 years ago

        Happy wife, happy life and cheaper to keeper. Words to live by.

  6. NYYANKEES 3 years ago

    Has AJ’s wife ever heard of a train?

    Can’t blame Yanks for wanting Pirates to take more salary. Paying him $23 millon and getting bad prospects is not ideal

    • $3513744 3 years ago

      It’s not like there are any trains in NY right?  I can’t blame them for demanding more either, but realistically they’re in no position for demands since it’s no secret they want to unload him.

    • SierraM363 3 years ago

       Addition by subtraction

  7. alphabet_soup5 3 years ago

    Mystery team?!

    • oldyankfan 3 years ago

      orioles? their current starting 5 is pathetic, their 2012 budget is only $68 mil right now and maybe they figure AJ would be happy so close to home

  8. Rabbitov 3 years ago

    This is your chance, get out of there Pirates!

  9. I think the Pirates are thinking why spend $10mm+ on Burnett and lose 2 prospects, when they can wait longer, keep their prospects, and only pay Burnett the league minimum when the Yankees release him.

    The Yankees are in it to win it every year, and will pay anything to win a championship. They have 7 starters for 5 spots and 7 relievers for 6 spots. so 14 pitchers for 11 spots… there’s no room for Burnett anymore, they cant hold onto him like the Mets did with Perez, they will have to cut him if they cant trade him.

    • James Attwood 3 years ago

      No way the Yankees are simply releasing Burnett.

      •  He better learn how to DH then.
        Yanks pen will be Garcia/Hughes, Wade, Robertson, Logan/Feliciano, Jobba, Rivera.
        There’s no room for him on a championship team.

        • Gibson17 3 years ago

          Feliciano will never pitch again for the Yankees…injured arm and out for the year.

          • Gibson17 3 years ago

            And no Job until June or July at the earliest.  AJ will absolutely not be released.

      • they can still send hughes to the minors as he has one option left

        • YanksFanSince78 3 years ago

          I can’t see that happening at all. Not to mention it would mean releasing or demoting one of Bans, Bets, Warren, Phelps or Mitchell and the last 3 all performed well @ AAA last year.

    • Yanks are not releasing AJ. They do have option. Hughes can go back the the bullpen for part of the season and they can trade AJ on the trading dead line to a team in contention and desperate for a SP.

      Also,

  10. Raymond Holguin 3 years ago

    Burnett + Cash for Abreu, done.  Angels don’t want abreu just like yanks don’t want  Burnett.  But the angels also don’t want Burnett + ~13M additional salary.  

    • roomwithamoose 3 years ago

      that probably was the deal that Burnett probably refused to accept, it makes sense, considering both teams surpluses, to do that deal

    • Gibson17 3 years ago

      For the millionth time (not to you, but to posters in general), AJ has the 10 westernmost team on his no-trade list.  The Angels are not going to happen.

    • EsquireMatt 3 years ago

      Its been reported that AJ vetoed a trade with the Angels for Bobby.

  11. tim2nyy 3 years ago

    Never count out the mystery team.

  12. Would this 3-team trade work?

    Yankees get Abreu
    Pirates get Burnett + cash and Mark Trumbo
    Angels get Hanrahan

    Mike Trout in LF, Vernon Wells or Torii Hunter moves to DH

    • NYYANKEES 3 years ago

      no for the Angels to add Trumbo.

      they can get C  prospects from Pirates, AJ to Pirates, and Abreu goes to Yankees.

      Thats what the Angels should do trade Abreu for prospects to whichever team that wants him. I have no idea why they want Burnett + extra salary.

      • EsquireMatt 3 years ago

        Because they have a big ? at their 5th starter.  He eats innings and has enough talent to win more than just a handful of starts. 

    • Todd Smith 3 years ago

      Pirates would be giving up too much.  

      • Ron Loreski 3 years ago

        No they wouldn’t. I’m sure Meek could handle the 9th. If not, sign someone like Mike Gonzalez, who closed for the Pirates before. Almost anything that brings Trumbo to Pittsburgh would work for me. Not going to happen though.

        • Todd Smith 3 years ago

          I wouldn’t really want Trumbo at all, as he’s not really much of an upgrade over Jones anyway.  I certainly wouldn’t give away Hanrahan for Trumbo straight up.  They could get much more than that for Hanrahan.

    • oldyankfan 3 years ago

      i don’t think the yanks would not take on abreu’s $9 mill salary — they’d rather have prospects and sign ibanez/damon for $2 mill

  13. Exposfan 3 years ago

    If I were NH right now, I’d say to Cashman:
    “You know what? I’ve tried my very best to accomodate you, but you are being more and more picky. I’m fed up, see ya”

  14. I’m surprised the Orioles aren’t getting involved. They can use a good innings eater, and his wife would love for him to play in Baltimore. Its probably the #1 place he’d want to go to finish his career.

    • Ron Loreski 3 years ago

      They could be the mystery team.

    • arthur3 3 years ago

      It might be because that the O’s have seen Burnett within their division and recognize that his best years may be behind him. Wasn’t Burnett the only Yankee pitcher to have a losing record against the Orioles this year? The price being asked by the Yankees from the Pirates is, in no doubt, an attempt to recover some dignity after the fleecing they took in the Nady/Marte trade a few years ago.

  15. Im part italian, i could make Burnett disappear for half his salary lol!

    • Lastings 3 years ago

       They’re better off going to Lance Burton…

  16. I hope the unnamed team really gets interested. I think this is a terrible deal for us here in Pittsburgh if Burnnett is not actively excited about pitching in PGh. If he is looking to “mail it in ” for two years , there are more arms that would be a better fit.

    • Gibson17 3 years ago

      There hasn’t been anything to give the impression that AJ doesn’t want to be in Pittsburgh.

    • I’m not an AJ Burnett fan at all, but for $10 million its not a terrible deal. The NL Central is extremely weak (you have Votto, 2/3 of a season of Ryan Braun, and the rare days Matt Holliday isn’t hurt; thats pretty much it). I see no reason he couldn’t regain, at least, some of his form in a weak division with little pressure.  Any more than $10 mil and/or a decent prospect and I’d probably pass though.

  17. jeremiah15y 3 years ago

    Wallace Matthews is a flat out bad journalist… he reported yesterday that Cole wouldn’t be going in the deal… well no durrr.

  18. chuckuangels 3 years ago

    Boring. Hello…Hello…is this thing on?

  19. Giraffe Monsoon 3 years ago

    I can’t wait to see what happens when the Yankees finally realize Ibanez is way over the hill and has no power anymore.

  20. Victor Kipp 3 years ago

    Smart for Burnett to reject that trade. If he goes to the angels there is pressure on him to perform.

  21. FieldofDreams 3 years ago

    Ye olde Mystery Team

  22. Jesse Heiman 3 years ago

    They should offer him to Detroit for delmon young

    • tiger313 3 years ago

      im kind of intrigued about AJ for a fifth starter in Detroit.

  23. bjsguess 3 years ago

    I would like to publicly flog myself for saying yesterday that if offered a choice between playing in Pittsburgh or playing in Anaheim that Burnett would choose LA. 

    I was wrong. Very wrong.
    That is one serious phobia. To rather play in Pittsburgh (great city – horrible club) is just absurd. 

  24. im curious on to who the 4 teams are that burnett will accept a trade too. pittsburgh obviously but who are the other three? especially since cleveland is out of it

  25. Johnny S. 3 years ago

    How about AJ for Jason Bay ?

  26. HHHDMS 3 years ago

    Too bad AJ was a bust after the Championship season. I still think he has great stuff, but flourishes better with a non pressure team like the Pirates or Royals – He has his ring and he can say he was part of a World Championship club at the very least. Im sure hed do well in Pittsburgh. I am curious about the dreaded mystery team ..the Mets ? Cubs ? Royals ? Just guesswork, maybe it is the Os ?

    • he was apart of 2 championship teams….florida/miami also

      • MB923 3 years ago

        Well he did win a ring with the Marlins, but he didn’t pitch at all in the playoffs in 2003. 2009 was actually his first career postseason appearances.

    • JaysNesan 3 years ago

      Jays.. why not.. he enjoyed and did well in Toronto, except those years he was injured. I think Jays can gamble with him.. he was pitching well against  Boston and NY. He still can pitch mid to high nineties. Without any additional pressure, he can pitch well and also now he may want to revenge the Yankees …Jays get 10M of AJ’s salary and give Thames to NY. Now, Jays can put Snider in LF so give a final chance to succeed as a major leaguer.

  27. Richard Griffith 3 years ago

    Burnett can’t block a trade if there not on his no-trade list.

  28. slider32 3 years ago

    Yanks are building to the furture their main club is almost set. The Yanks are looking to dump 12 million in contract and get a few prospects in the deal. The Bucs seem to be willing to give them 10 million at this point.

  29. MB923 3 years ago

    That is correct.

  30. $3513744 3 years ago

    To each his own I suppose.  I’m more curious what the refusal to move to the west coast is all about.  

  31. Look what happened to that family in American Horror Story when they moved out west. She’s right to be afraid. However, AJ Burnett is no Dylan McDermott so there’s that…

  32. MB923 3 years ago

    lol he just answered you (and yes it’s for real)

  33. $3513744 3 years ago

    It must be the only place he could go that would require her to fly.  Makes perfect sense :)

  34. Faceman937 3 years ago

    Obsessions, you are correct. The reported reason Burnett chose the Yankees over the Braves was due to his wife flying. ATL was a flight where the Yankees were a train ride from his home.

  35. roomwithamoose 3 years ago

    hey in the end though at least he’s being thoughtful phobias are irrational fears, and he’s not forcing her to do something that will make her blood pressure go through the roof

  36. James Attwood 3 years ago

    She never relocated to Toronto. Part of Burnett’s contrat was 8 round-trip limo rides (about 10 hours or so one way) from their home in Baltimore to Toronto so she could see her husband play.

  37. Jim McGrath 3 years ago

    Do you think Josh Beckett’s wife has the same issue(actually I think they just had a new baby this off-season which could cause a moving issue)–maybe the Angels would consider Josh as a suitable starter and would send some prospects east.

  38. GlassJawn 3 years ago

    A bit of hyperbole, Toronto is only a 90 minute drive from the New York state border.

  39. $3513744 3 years ago

    Well there’s no fighting it then, because the island won’t let her stay there even if she tried.

  40. wolf9309 3 years ago

     probably there’s family on/near the east coast she doesn’t want to be that far from- as the west coast is several days of driving away

  41. $3513744 3 years ago

    She could just turn on a tv like other people if she’s so scared to fly.  Just saying.  Given the possible career paths of playing for the Angels or the Pirates right now, it seems like a really poor decision given the circumstances.

  42. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Well, they have two children and a home in Baltimore so…

  43. James Attwood 3 years ago

    I have no idea how the logistics played out. I imagine that the team has plenty of limos crossing back and forth across the border to get business sone though. I would assume that they are “old-hat” at figuring it all out by now.

    But I’m with you, I want an Intl. limo clause too.

  44. because a 10 hour drive is alittle better then a 2 1/2 day drive. i have drove from lancaster california to Ft. walton beach florida and its not a fun drive.

  45. James Attwood 3 years ago

    Maybe Burnett likes the idea of seeing his wife and two children more often. Maybe his family wants more than to watch Burnett on the telly.

    His kids may not mind flying, but his exceptionally hot wife certainly does. It appears the happiness of his family is more imprtant to him than playing for a top-tier contender like the Angels. Quite frankly, good for him.

  46. maybe he wants a shot at being a number 1 or 2 starter instead of a 4 or 5…pittsburgh he can get that shot, as for the angels he would be number 5

  47. i dont really see it as leverage because techincaly the yankees dont really need to get rid of him. he will be a 5th starter, and he prob more then likely wont start in the playoffs as the yankees usually only go with 3 starters come post season time. yeah the salary may hurt, but im sure they would rather keep the salary then trade him and not get anything in return

  48. EsquireMatt 3 years ago

    That sounds worse than my Miami to Kileen, Tx.  Though your destination was probably more fun.

  49. jeremiah15y 3 years ago

    Maybe he sees that if they can turn Correia into an all-star, then he’s a lock!

  50. $3513744 3 years ago

    LOL.  That reminds me of wanting to be a starter on the JV team rather than a role player on the varsity team.

  51. Bleed_Orange 3 years ago

    Couldnt agree more.  He has a huge contract, a ws ring, and he is on the down swing of his career.  Winning at this point is probably not his biggest concern. Family comes first.

  52. EsquireMatt 3 years ago

    My guess is the Yankees believe for a $5MM/year savings, he is still a usable arm that they won 97 games with last year.  That type of savings doesn’t really get them to expand the price tag for a DH. And without a decent prospect there’s really no incentive.

  53. Smrtbusnisman04 3 years ago

    They can then use those savings to sign Raul Ibanez.

  54. $3513744 3 years ago

    Maybe he’s not doing her any favors by catering to her fears.  People don’t grow by avoiding their fears.

  55. What makes you think the other teams in the NL Central are that much better than the Pirates?  Honestly, the Pirates will start with a better overall team than they had last year.  Therefore, I would never rule out a chance for them to contend.

  56. dook83 3 years ago

    I assume she must have a fear of flying…you could fly BALTCALI in considerably less time…

  57. EsquireMatt 3 years ago

    Come on now.  Jerome Williams? Garret Richards? AJ is still a KO pitcher and has almost a 8 K/9inn ratio during his time in NY.  We know he has not pitched great, but things get blown out of control in NY.  He can still go out there and give you 6 innings.  Hes not going to shut people out every time, but he can still keep teams in games.

  58. nictonjr 3 years ago

    If the Angels can get Burnett for $500K a year and only give up Abreu they’d be all for it.  Other than that Williams/Richard will do.

    Their top 4 guys threw 223+ innings each last year. You need a 5-6 inning pitcher in the #5 spot to keep the BP active…..

  59. johnsmith4 3 years ago

    You left out Brad Mills

  60. He showed real signs of improvement down the stretch last year, starting with the crucial rubber-game of the September-1st series in Boston, and the Yanks can pretty-well count on an injury taking out at least one of their starters. If I were Cash, and the deal wasn’t exactly what I wanted, I’d save Burnett and see what’s happening at the trade deadline.

  61. James Attwood 3 years ago

    ^ This…

  62. nictonjr 3 years ago

    One shoulder tight or forearm injury away from getting nothing back and having his $16.5 mil, 24.75 counting luxury tax, staying on the books.  He’s been healthy as a Yankee, but he does have arm problems in his history.  And 35 year old SP in the post steroid era….

  63. mypoorbuccos 3 years ago

     “Don’t look at me! DON’T LOOK AT ME!!!!”

  64. YanksFanSince78 3 years ago

    I’m trying to find a “not too inappropriate” joke and I’m striking out…. you win :(

  65. Okay, I’ll give you that.

  66. roomwithamoose 3 years ago

    lets take the psychology discussion elsewhere, and i am just saying a surprise trade to the Angels, and suddenly forcing her to fly may not be the best idea for now. They should deal with it at a more appropriate time. He had the right to block the trade, he didn’t do it cause he hates the Angels, but out of concern for family

  67. formerdraftpick 3 years ago

    The Buccos should have went for bigger signings and locked up a legitimate clean up hitter so they could “take over” the division.  It seems like no one wants to sign for them.  Therefore, they might have to go the route of trades.

  68. Beltran is starting to decline, there’s no doubt of that.  You also failed to mention all the other players the Brewers lost.  Yes, they may be returning some good pitching, but you also need good offense to win.  I honestly think the Reds will have the best team.  Having said all of that, I really do think the Pirates could make it interesting. 

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