Red Sox, Marlins Discussed Crawford, Hanley, Bell

1:10pm: There's no current discussion involving Crawford, Ramirez and Bell, ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports (on Twitter). The idea surfaced briefly as a concept and immediately died.

12:57pm: The Red Sox and Marlins are discussing a trade that would send Carl Crawford to Miami for Hanley Ramirez and Heath Bell, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports. The Marlins approached the Red Sox about the possible blockbuster, Nightengale reports.

The biggest impediment to the deal is the Marlins' indecision about their course for the rest of the 2012 season. Miami VP Dan Jennings is in Boston scouting Crawford, according to Nightengale. The potential trade would be the second-biggest contract swap in history, trailing only the 2004 trade involving Alex Rodriguez and Alfonso Soriano, Nightengale writes.

The Marlins are also discussing trades involving Josh Johnson and Anibal Sanchez, plus a deal that would send Omar Infante back to Detroit, Nightengale reports.

Ken Rosenthal reported earlier today that the Red Sox are determining trade interest in Crawford. However, GM Ben Cherington says there's "nothing going on" with the left fielder, who is in the second year of a seven-year, $142MM contract he signed following the 2010 season.


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126 Comments on "Red Sox, Marlins Discussed Crawford, Hanley, Bell"


3 years 1 month ago

Yes, please.

sourbob
3 years 1 month ago

(head explodes)

Karkat
3 years 1 month ago

What.

ultimate913
3 years 1 month ago

Que?

seldomused
3 years 1 month ago

The Red Sox have to be including prospects in that.  Crawford hasn’t proved healthy enough yet to be worth Hanley and Bell despite their struggles.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Either that or (maybe more likely) adding a significant amount of money to the deal, so the Marlins get Crawford for cheap.

melonis_rex
3 years 1 month ago

Money would be logical, but then the luxury tax would become a huge concern (considering Bell and Hanley would be on the Sox payroll).

Sky14
3 years 1 month ago

Cheap, that does seem to be the Marlins way.

Fifty_Five
3 years 1 month ago

If I would have proposed this the mlbtr comment section would have excommunicated me

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Honestly, I probably would have made fun of you…

kevinfoley46
3 years 1 month ago

Agreed. You’d be a laughing stock. But honestly, I don’t know how big of a difference this is for anyone, unless both teams are going for a “change of scenery” thought process.

Fangaffes
3 years 1 month ago

Sometimes I wonder if the New York based media is just screwing with the Red Sox to try to promote doubt and dissent. These guys come up with the most “amazing” trade rumors.

mike melusky
3 years 1 month ago

Boston will have three proven closers now.

$17049574
3 years 1 month ago

and yet, none

MB923
3 years 1 month ago

Whoa.

V john
3 years 1 month ago

Who didn’t see this one coming?

Karkat
3 years 1 month ago

No seriously what.

JB3
3 years 1 month ago

Make it happen Ben!

walnutfalcons
3 years 1 month ago

Forgive me, but I am completely drawing a blank on Hanley’s contract.

Would this be two bad contracts swapped for one?  

melonis_rex
3 years 1 month ago

 Nope. Hanley’s contract isn’t bad. Not cheap, but not bad.

There’s got to be more coming from the Red Sox (whether salary relief  or prospects) or the Marlins know something about Hanley we don’t.

Fifty_Five
3 years 1 month ago

He’s owed about 31 mill through 2014. So it’s more like two bad shorter term contracts for one atrocious long one

MB923
3 years 1 month ago

Why would the Sox want Heath Bell? Unless there is a 2nd Heath Bell that I don’t know of on the Marlins.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Couldn’t be a worse closer than Aceves, and couldn’t be less healthy than Bailey.  Between the three of them they might have one complete closer.

slyfox1908
3 years 1 month ago

The Sox probably don’t want him. I bet the Marlins are insisting he be included for money purposes.

JB3
3 years 1 month ago

Any chance Crawford could even pass his physical for this deal?  He still needs TJ after the season.

MaineSox
3 years 1 month ago

Given that the Marlins know about that they wouldn’t nix the deal because of it showing up on the physical.

JB3
3 years 1 month ago

Are we sure they know about it?  I mean, certainly they must, but maybe they don’t know about his contract?  This trade doesn’t make any sense to me from the Marlins’ perspective, but I guess it wouldn’t be that far off from the Wells deal between Toronto and LAA.

kevinfoley46
3 years 1 month ago

If we know about it, I’m sure they know about it.

JB3
3 years 1 month ago

Whoosh!

Ben_Cherington
3 years 1 month ago

What the hell is going on?

East Coast Bias
3 years 1 month ago

You tell us. 

Ben_Cherington
3 years 1 month ago

How did this get out!!!?!?!?

mlbscout6
3 years 1 month ago

This sounds like it was thought up by some Red Sox fanboy. I’m sure the Marlins are gearing up for another disadvantageous trade, but it won’t be THIS bad.

3 years 1 month ago

Nope. Not going to happen. 

3 years 1 month ago

The Orioles could do better to get Ramirez than the Red Sox!
Bell can stay in South Florida though!

M.Kit
3 years 1 month ago

Pure media driven nonsense

3 years 1 month ago

Absolutely.

3 years 1 month ago

You don’t. And there isn’t. 

3 years 1 month ago

that was in response to everyone who will say we don’t need another closer and is there someone else you can package in the deal. Keep dreaming. 

Brv Rocks
3 years 1 month ago

Wow!!!  The Marlins must be desperate to get rid of Hanley and Bell if they are willing to take on that albatross of a contract. 

slyfox1908
3 years 1 month ago

If my math is right (from the start of 2012),

Ramirez+Bell: $73.5m, $24.5m/yr, expire 2014Crawford: $127m, $21.1m/yr, expires 2017

I agree, the Red Sox should send some money or a prospect the Marlins’ way.