Farrell Likely To Be Top Choice In Boston

John Farrell has a job and the Red Sox have a manager, but rumors about Boston’s interest in Farrell persist as the Blue Jays prepare for a series at Fenway Park. MLB sources indicated to Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe that Farrell will be the top choice to replace Bobby Valentine in 2013. Furthermore, people who know Farrell say he’d welcome the opportunity to return to Boston, according to Cafardo. However, Farrell maintains that his focus remains in Toronto.

“My focus and my commitment has been and is here, unequivocally," he told reporters this week.

Farrell, who is under contract for 2013, was Boston’s pitching coach before being hired by the Blue Jays. The Red Sox attempted to acquire him from Toronto twice last year, according to Cafardo. Though the Blue Jays were willing to listen, the sides didn’t agree on compensation. The Red Sox eventually hired Valentine, who’s also under contract for 2013. However, there’s a widespread expectation that Valentine won’t return to Boston next year.

The Red Sox probably wouldn’t want to part with recently-acquired pitching prospect Rubby De La Rosa, but the Blue Jays would love to add someone like him to their organization, Cafardo writes.


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2 years 10 months ago

Watch Farrell manage his lineup and bullpen for an extended period and he wouldn’t be anyone’s first choice. As a Jays fan I’d have no problem with him leaving.

Devern Hansack
2 years 10 months ago

I’d be ticked if we gave up anything of great value for him. The Sox should promote Beyeler or Bogar.

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

Not Bogar. NEVER Bogar.

2 years 10 months ago

SANDBERG! gammons has come around on him even. Keith Law thinks he’s the next name to manage in the Major Leagues even, and Law hates everybody.

Daniel
2 years 10 months ago

Couldn’t agree with you more. I would be quite happy to let Farrell go for a somewhat descent prospect.

j6takish
2 years 10 months ago

….have they watched Farrell manage a game before?

Wes
2 years 10 months ago

The Blue Jays are going to demand such an exorbitant, prohibitive price that this just isn’t going to happen. Boston scribes & Front Office really need to get over this obsession. The Jays have Farrell under contract & the optics of letting Farrell go to the hated Red Sox would be sooo unbelievably bad that Rogers Communications will not allow it (imagine telling fans they they let the manager go for some middling prospect). This isn’t happening. Boston can desire the guy all they want but they won’t get him.

rdillon99
2 years 10 months ago

The Blue Jays only have him under contract through 2013. Presumably, the Jays and Farrell will sit down soon after the season ends to discuss an extension. If Farrell conveys to the team that he is not interested in signing an extension beyond 2013, then the Jays would very likely be motivated sellers this offseason as otherwise they would have a lame duck manager on their hands for all of next season. They would have to replace him at the end of 2013 anyways, so they might as well get something for him while they can and start the process of finding a new manager sooner rather than later… Really, whether Farrell is traded or not to the Red Sox will be determined by what message Farrell sends to the Blue Jays during their off-season meeting.

Brent Lafond
2 years 10 months ago

Yes that is true that his availability of him will most likely depend if he wants an extension or not. And if a team was willing to pay a high price even tho he wanted one they would move him. But I dont think any one will.

I dont want the Sox to give up anything of value for him even tho I want him. We can get some one whos a great manager for nothing.

Howard
2 years 10 months ago

Even if he went back to Boston… which I doubt… Toronto would have coaches like Butterfield trying to take the spot now since he came close to beating Farrell for the job as manager of the Jays. I don’t know though…. lol

sourbob
2 years 10 months ago

If the Sox–in the middle of what they hope is an accelerated rebuilding–give up an arm like De La Rosa for a MANAGER… well, that would be yeah… I have no way to get that past the filter and still convey what I mean.

notsureifsrs
2 years 10 months ago

this is what happens when boston sports writers don’t have any actual baseball to write about

it’s also what happens when they do have actual baseball to write about. but especially when they don’t

qbass187
2 years 10 months ago

It all depends on Ferrell himself.
If he communicates to the Blue Jays he wants to go back to Boston (which has been reported by “sources”) they’ll make a deal. Otherwise they’re just hurting themselves and IMO AA is smart enough to see that.

Dan Gorgone
2 years 10 months ago

Farrell was a great pitching coach, but at the same time, Manny was a great hitter, Schilling was a great pitcher, and Varitek was a great catcher – but those days are over. Move forward and provide new leadership to create a new culture. Don’t live in the past or try to turn the clock back.

Edmark Dalmacio
2 years 10 months ago

Take Farrell and promote Brian Butterfield!

rikersbeard
2 years 10 months ago

Promote Sal “the mustache” Fasano

Jim McGrath
2 years 10 months ago

The Sox take Butterfield and you keep Farrell.
If Cherrington ever traded Rubby DLR for Farrell–BenC should be fired instantly. He was the most Maj. League ready of the players they got for AGon.

Jim McGrath
2 years 10 months ago

The crazy thing is they will hold out for a Sox prospect–had the Sox not made their feelings known through the press he probably would have been fired by Toronto the day the season ended and they would promote Butterfield. Thanks Boston media, once again, for letting the cat out of the bag and costing us a prospect.

2 years 10 months ago

Absolutley agreed!

Budyzer
2 years 10 months ago

A prospect come on give your head a shake ! It’s gotta be a MLB starting pitcher or impact bat with years of control not some kid who may not even make it to the show …

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

This is sarcasm right? please?

Budyzer
2 years 10 months ago

No it’s not sarcasm ! Why would the jays give up something the sox want so bad as to try three times now to acquire him for nothing but a middling prospect that wouldn’t make our top 20 prospects list ? If they don’t want to let him go then ask a very
High price and with the gong show that’s running things in Boston who knows whats could happen. Although I concede I doubt Boston gives up anything big

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

They already did that when they asked for Buchholz. But as long as you aren’t actually expecting that to happen…

johnsmith4
2 years 10 months ago

Actually, De La Rosa is good enough to be in Blue Jays Top 10 prospects. Baseball America projected him to be a No. 2 SPer. The guy throws a 95 MPH fastball. He has even thrown as hard as 102 MPH.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

Hmmm.. Finley got a washed up Manny Sanguillen for Chuck Tanner. Epstein got Chris Carpenter and Aaron Kurcz. Go ahead and shoot for the moon with a coach turned manager that has nothing in their repertoire to match either Tanner, nor Epstein and see how far that flies.

johnsmith4
2 years 10 months ago

Hmmm, I think Anthopolous is shrewder than Charlie O. My take on the situation is AA has informed Red Sox they can have Farrell if they make Toronto an offer it can’t refuse. I doubt AA has any interest in being fair to Boston.

johnsilver
2 years 10 months ago

Pretty tall order for Anthopolous when Finley built 3 WS Champion teams and the dynasty A’s of the early-mid 70’s. AA needs to get busy getting to the top 1-2 of the Al East 1st.

johnsmith4
2 years 10 months ago

I presume you never spoke with anyone who worked for Charlie O. I have (on the hockey side) and the stories were not flattering.

Never the less, I doubt AA settles for a “Manny Sanguillen” deal. I am sticking to my guns on asserting he has a “make me an offer I can’t refuse” mind set.

Karkat
2 years 10 months ago

You don’t give up actual players or prospects for a manager, come on…

If the Jays will take Chris Carpenter (compensation for Theo, we remember), then fine. Otherwise, get someone for the interim and go after Farrel in 2014. Sheesh.

Lunchbox45
2 years 10 months ago

I doubt very much that the jays will go in to 2013 with a manager on a 1 year deal.

he’ll get an extension, so theres no point in planning for 2014

Casor_Greener
2 years 10 months ago

Why is this Farrell dude so hot in Boston? Weren’t the Blue Jays supposed to be contenders this year?

If you are getting paid millions and quit on a manager, the problem is with a player not the coach.

Francona too loose? Valentine too harsh? Nope!!!

Players just chumps? Yep!

Much respect to the players who didn’t show up to that meeting. That whole ordeal was a coward move.

notsureifsrs
2 years 10 months ago

the idea is that farrel wasn’t just liked by the players (as francona was), but also respected and – to some degree – feared. i don’t know whether that’s true or meaningful or even important, but that’s the idea

Casor_Greener
2 years 10 months ago

Fair enough. So it sounds like they are expecting him to be the perfect blend of Francona and Valentine.

mike
2 years 10 months ago

Farrel isn’t worth all this hype but jays in contention this year made sense before we lost lawrie bautista 3 starters in a week and our closer before season started and another late reliever (perez). Jays playing with a triple A roster

Casor_Greener
2 years 10 months ago

I can roll with Bautista and Lowrie, but I really don’t think a closer is going to make or break a teams chances at the playoffs. Isn’t that the most over-rated position in baseball? (Serious question)

mike
2 years 10 months ago

True outside of five or six guys its an over rated position. Having one injured though even if we replace him means one less first team option plus 3 starting pitcher go down in a week and two need tommy john. Farrell has been ok. I don’t think any manager in baseball would make huge difference. I don’t see the red sox any better off with him

rikersbeard
2 years 10 months ago

lawrie

mcbeard
2 years 10 months ago

Especially since the closer the Jays use right now is better then their wildest dreams. Janssen is one of those silver lining players for the this year.

But the starter injuries were Bautista, Lawrie, Morrow, Perez, Santos, Arencibia, Lind, Frasor, Drabek, Hutchison, Litsch, and then a replacement, Cooper (who was hitting) was also injured. It’s no small amount of players. I’m probably forgetting someone too.

The true talent of the team is a mystery.

Encarnacion's Parrot
2 years 10 months ago

Rasmus has been playing through a groin problem for at least 4 weeks now too, and it’s kinda noticeable.

Encarnacion's Parrot
2 years 10 months ago

Closers I don’t think are overrated by the MLBTR community. They are an important pitcher, but the saves stat is completely useless to judge a reliever by.

2 years 10 months ago

well, you wouldn’t be a contender if about 4 of your Opening Day Pitchers needs either TJ or Shoulder surgery

Ken Roucka
2 years 10 months ago

If I’m the Jays I treat the Sawks like they treated the Cubs in the Theo negotiations. Start out by asking for some combination Ellsbury, Middlebrooks & Bogaerts. Ridiculous.

Tko11
2 years 10 months ago

I dont see why teams cant just sign a free agent manager, there is no point in giving up players for managers. Look at Robin Ventura, hes doing a great job and the White Sox gave up no players for him.

Steve Corbett
2 years 10 months ago

Wait until 2014 for Farrell if they have their heart set on him and bring in an interim for 2013, as has been suggested here. Since it’s for one year, go get Tommy LaSorda or Tony LaRussa. They have the money now, the team ain’t doing anything next year anyways, so no loss. Be entertaining, too.

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

Lasorda..that’s funny. Pretty sure he’d rather die first than manage in Canada.

Jeff Brandon
2 years 10 months ago

If you are a Dodger fan, you would know that Lasorda has immense respect for baseball in Canada, being it is where Jackie Robinson broke into the previously segregated organized professional leagues of baseball. A relatively significant moment in the game, don’t you think?

vtadave
2 years 10 months ago

I know….bad joke.

Steelslayer
2 years 10 months ago

Maybe you should learn to read a little better…he’s talking about Boston but your comment about “rather die first than manage” in Boston would be applicable there as well.

Daniel
2 years 10 months ago

Either LaRussa or Lasorda would want a chance at winning, which is not going to happen for a while in Boston.

Michael
2 years 10 months ago

They ARE winners, but LaRussa would only need 36 wins to pass McGraw, and even the 2013 Sox can go 36-126. No pressure on him, either. The Fenway fans would love him and they probably aren’t expecting much next year.

horseiv
2 years 10 months ago

If he doesn’t wanna be here go, he started something with Jays but if he doesn’t think he can finish it I rather him go there. Besides Fasano can come in and take over he is great at developing young arms

2 years 10 months ago

Being an ORIOLES fan all I can say is I’m so glad VALENTINE turned down the O’s when he was approached about managing in BALTIMORE!

2 years 10 months ago

As a Yankee Fan Even I can be Happy for Baltimore , They did not Deserve a Mgr like Broadway B. V. We The yankees will eventually get our act back Together
and in the meantime IMHO its’ good for Baseball the Os Nats many teams that have not Been to the Dance in a long time or EVER to have there Turns

I feel all the DEPRESSION all of us feel when our Team is “Not Doing WELL”
lol but I LOVE BASEBALL and have Been to Many DANCES w/ the Yanks, and have a lifetime of the “SPECIAL FEELING” when your Team wins the WS

Wining a W.S. is such a Special FEELING it needs to be SHARED Until my Team Rebuilds I will enjoy watching Great 2012 Baseball and the Young hungry Talented Teams

Good Luck I will be expecting the Yanks to be back in the Hunt by 2015

Go Yanks

APNDaveR
2 years 10 months ago

Farrell was the right move back when he was the obvious heir to Francona and would, in theory, keep the positive clubhouse culture/organizational strategy we thought they had going after Francona retired/moved on. The right move would have been to convince him to stay on, Dave Duncan-like, as the crown prince for as long as it took. I know some will say “but he’s being offered his own team, how can you keep him from that?”… but the answer, as always, is “you throw a LOT of money at him”. Everyone has their price.

But instead, Lucchino et al. hung Francona out to dry by not extending him, and let the heir apparent walk to Toronto. Now they apparently want to come crawling back to him and beg Toronto to free him up to take the job he should have been promised three years ago. (Which, apparently, he actually wants — I can’t believe a smart guy like him would walk willingly into this poopstorm, but there you go.) But while Farrell was great at managing the pitchers in a clubhouse with a good tone set by Francona, we don’t know how he’ll be managing the full team in a caustic clubhouse left in ruin by the Valentine era. He might be a good choice, but he’s no sure thing.

TL;DR summary: If you fire Paul Simon, hiring Art Garfunkel probably isn’t going to bring back the sound of silence.

Brent Lafond
2 years 10 months ago

I would love to have him but wont give up anything of significant value for him. No way, id be wicked mad. There is anuff good coaches capable of becoming our manager who wont cost a thing.

2 years 10 months ago

Let him go . The Jays should get Thomson like they should have 2 years ago.

Yondu Udonta
2 years 10 months ago

The Jays need position players and starting pitchers so either Pedroia and prospect or Buckholtz and prospect and Boston can have Farrell, then Toronto will need to sign Francona to a 2 or 3 year contract