East Links: Ortiz, Farrell, Guillen, Litsch, Red Sox

The Red Sox and Blue Jays are making progress on compensation talks for manager John Farrell, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. A contract between Farrell and the Red Sox won't be an obstacle once compensation is agreed upon. Here is the latest from baseball's two East divisions…

  • Nick Cafardo of The Boston Globe reports (on Twitter) that the Red Sox and David Ortiz did engage in contract talks earlier this week. A few days ago we learned that the slugger was still seeking two years and $25-30MM.
  • The status of Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen is expected to be settled early next week, reports Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. Club officials will meet in New York to discuss the state of the team.
  • Jesse Litsch still feels pain in his throwing arm and has started to think about his post-playing career, perhaps coaching or scouting according to Shi Davidi of Sportsnet.ca. The right-hander had two surgeries this year and could have a third soon. The Blue Jays recently outrighted him off the 40-man roster and he elected free agency.
  • Orioles third base coach DeMarlo Hale is unlikely to get the Red Sox gig as the club apparently has their heart set on Farrell, writes Rich Dubroff of CSNBaltimore.com.
  • Meanwhile, Hale told Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe (via Twitter) that he believes that his interview with the Red Sox went well. The coach added that he's unsure of when he'll he might hear back from the club.

Zach Links contributed to this post.


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34 Comments on "East Links: Ortiz, Farrell, Guillen, Litsch, Red Sox"


Chris_RG
2 years 10 months ago

When is Hale going to get a real shot instead of being “Obligatory Minority Candidate”? His name seems to come up in every managerial opening yet he usually doesn’t make it past the first round.

Steelslayer
2 years 10 months ago

I am a Jay’s fan and am indifferent to him either staying or going. He is a articulate and a good communicator. He has only 2yrs experience as a manager, and maybe I expected more but in the end I am not that impressed with him. Sometimes his “FarrelI-talk” tends to wow you a little too much, sort of like a polished car salesman, as he uses great catch-phrases and descriptors to get his point across but the substance seemed to be lacking. There were some games were I truly think he was out managed, or mismanaged leverage situations. The base running blunders, and the situations regarding both Lawrie and Escobar, on top of what Vizquel said is cause for concern. I don’t know if he will go on to find great success, but he will bring some professionalism and needed stability to the Sox. Hopefully the Jays can extract their pound of flesh if he goes.

JP
2 years 10 months ago

I agree. I don’t want the Jays to just help out the Red Sox… but I’m not devastated seeing him go. Didn’t love what he did tactically, and the Jays made a lot of mental errors this year. Plus Vizquel’s comments about the locker room.

I’m not sure how responsible he was for some of that stuff… but there wasn’t a ton to like onfield for the Jays this year.

ice_hawk10
2 years 10 months ago

i get the feeling that the sox are just desperate for someone familiar who can give them some stability, but at the end of the day this may not be the best hire for them. not convinced the jays are helping the sox by letting him go. as you said, he certainly left a lot to be desired tactically.

Yondu Udonta
2 years 10 months ago

An article in the Toronto Sun stated that Farrell wanted to release Vizquel in July, but AA did not want to cut him loose.

Visquel probably knew Farrell wanted him gone…hence his comments at years end.

Lunchbox45
2 years 10 months ago

extremely well said.. if you had a news letter, I would subscribe

Steelslayer
2 years 10 months ago

Thanks…I agree with a whole lot of what you say as well

thefridge99
2 years 10 months ago

My favourite example of Farrell Talk “I think any time you look at consistent and successfully consistent bullpens, you’ve got that consistent you’re building back towards. As there’s been some flux in that role, it’s not that it’s created uncertainty, but when you look to go to a guy in a certain spot and that performance has been inconsistent, we’ve seen the end result be inconsistent as well.” -JF on the 2011 closer spot

Steelslayer
2 years 10 months ago

That is exactly it…you heard it here first on MLBTR “Farrel Talk” A great example.

meanguygary
2 years 10 months ago

Will be great to get this over with once & for all.

JP
2 years 10 months ago

Agreed.

JP
2 years 10 months ago

Really curious what the compensation will be.

I mean, it’s obviously not going to be a major asset. But, as a Jays fan, I DO want it to hurt the Red Sox to give up.

I just don’t see the point in helping out a division rival otherwise. I mean seriously, if AA and Farrell don’t get along, wait till the Sox hire a different manager and THEN fire Farrell. Seriously. Why help out a team in your division like that?

Lunchbox45
2 years 10 months ago

if its a guy that sticks on the 25 man roster i’d be shocked.

honestly, i’m not sure if its allowed.. but the rights to david ortiz would be JUST fine.

Dan Gorgone
2 years 10 months ago

As a Sox fan, I’d be okay with the Jays getting Lackey. LOL

EarlyMorningBoxscore
2 years 10 months ago

Because that joke hasn’t been talked to death. It’s about as annoying as the Sox infatuation with Farrell.

Yondu Udonta
2 years 10 months ago

Ortiz won’t even enter the picture in this saga, he’s a free agent.

Lunchbox45
2 years 10 months ago

right, which is why I said the ‘rights’ to

Yondu Udonta
2 years 10 months ago

You do know what Free Agent means don’t you?
Ortiz is “free” to sign to any team that offers a contract to his liking, there is no “rights”.
The team with the best offer gets him pending his agreeing to the terms of the contract.

lefty177
2 years 10 months ago

They would technically have until right after the World Series to sign him to an extension before the other 29 teams have a shot at him

Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
2 years 10 months ago

While I am happy that the Red Sox have their heart set on John Farrell. The problem is who are the Blue Jays going to hire to replace him (Farrell) if and when he leaves?
Honestly, I thought Brad Ausmus was a good choice for the Red Sox. Maybe the Blue Jays could hire him. I just don’t know if Brad wants to go to Toronto or even if the Blue Jays are even interested. As a wild card and a name that hasn’t been mentioned in these parts for awhile, but was a hero, Joe Carter?

rikersbeard
2 years 10 months ago

yikes, Joe Carter?

suhiscrazierthanyou
2 years 10 months ago

let’s just stop that right there… no to Joe

Cliff Lau
2 years 10 months ago

Rubby De La Rosa for John Farrell?

You Know Who
2 years 10 months ago

It’ll end up being that with how Boston is gunning for this guy

2 years 10 months ago

I’m an Orioles fan and I’m selfishly glad Hale will return as our 3rd base coach. Invisibility is the greatest attribute of a 3rd base coach. Hale was just that, and contrasted with other Orioles’ recent 3rd base coaches who were all to visible with their poor judgment of when to hold vs. send runners.

Bob Bunker
2 years 10 months ago

The Sox should just give Ortiz 2 years 30 million its not like they are anywhere near their budget. He is a fan favorite and still has value as a DH in the middle of a lineup. what else are they going to do with that money?

jed_hoyer
2 years 10 months ago

whats the purpose of signing somebody to a contract if they can just walk away? i guess the red sox didn’t get enough of this mess last year.they’re not going to win anytime soon no matter who manages the team anyways.

Lunchbox45
2 years 10 months ago

Seems as if they were interviewing, we would hear about it. Which means it’s probably an internal promotion.

unless they were silly enough to not think ahead.

Jaysfan724
2 years 10 months ago

Jesse Litsch

JP
2 years 10 months ago

I believe I read somewhere that Alomar would still be available if a manager position came up. But failing that, he’ll be in Cleveland.

johnsmith4
2 years 10 months ago

Does anyone else see the sweet and cruel irony of Omar Vizquel getting John Farrell’s job. Not saying it is going to happen. But, contemplating it is a guilty pleasure.

Cooper
2 years 10 months ago

Isn’t Butterfield in the mix? Was he not considered when they hired Farrell?

rikersbeard
2 years 10 months ago

Come on Sal. Give it to Sal.

Sniderlover
2 years 10 months ago

Alomar was the runner up last time they did the interviewing. Maybe they will do it one more time and give it to him. Sal Fasano is a good internal candidate.