Rangers Sign Shin-Soo Choo

4:05pm: ESPN Dallas' Richard Durrett reports that Choo will earn $14MM in 2014 and 2015, $20MM annually from 2016-18 and $21MM in 2019 and 2020 (Twitter link).

3:15pm: With an outstanding rotation locked up for the foreseeable future, the Rangers have focused on re-shaping their offense this winter, and Shin-Soo Choo is the next piece of the puzzle. The Rangers have officially announced the signing of Choo to a seven-year contract that is reportedly worth $130MM. Reportedly, $5MM of the first year's salary will be shifted to 2016-17, creating more flexibility in 2014. The 31-year-old Scott Boras client does not have an opt-out in his contract but did receive a limited no-trade clause.

Choo

As MLBTR's Tim Dierkes wrote in his profile of Choo, who ranked third on Dierkes's list of the top fifty free agents, the South Korean on-base machine hit the open market at an optimal time. Having never seen his OBP drop below a .373 mark, Choo reached another level last year with a .285/.423/.462 line (over 712 plate appearances) in his first and only season with the Reds. (Of course, as Dierkes explained, Choo's biggest weakness — his struggles against left-handed pitching — could force him into a platoon role in the later years of his deal.) Choo also knocked twenty home runs in 2013 for the third time in his career. Batting atop the lineup in Cincinnati, Choo also swiped over twenty bags for the fourth time, though he was also tagged out eleven times in the process.

Though Choo played in center last year for the Reds, the expectation is that he will man a corner position in Texas. If the Rangers indeed intend to go with Leonys Martin up the middle, it would seem likely that the club would be out of the mix for Nelson Cruz. (Alex Rios is already penciled into one corner spot.) Though it certainly doesn't preclude anything, Choo will wear No. 17 in Texas (as he did in Cincinnati) — the same number that Cruz donned while with the Rangers. The Rangers said at today's press conference today that the current plan is for Choo to serve as their new leadoff hitter.

Texas GM Jon Daniels has not been shy in adding lengthy and substantial contracts to his club's books of late. He added dollars and years through trades for Rios and Prince Fielder (offset only in part by the departure of Ian Kinsler in that deal). And Daniels has done the same via extension, with Martin Perez (four years, $12.5MM), Elvis Andrus (eight years, $120MM), and Matt Harrison (five years, $55MM) all getting new deals in the last year. Add it all up, and the Rangers have added nearly $400MM in future obligations in the 2013 calendar year. That would seem likely to take the club out of the mix for Masahiro Tanaka (in the event that he is posted). 

At seven years and $130MM, Choo will receive an average annual value of just over $18.5MM. His deal slots in $23MM shy of that inked by Jacoby Ellsbury with the Yankees over the same length of time, but comes with a $40MM larger guarantee than that achieved by Hunter Pence in the five-year deal he reached with the Giants just before hitting the open market.

The Rangers were willing to go to seven years and a big sum of money, says Passan, in part due to the weak set of hitters available via free agency next year. Of course, new candidates could emerge; one year ago, it would have seemed quite unlikely that Choo would command this kind of payday. The Yankees may have been willing to reach the $140MM level in a seven-year pact with Choo, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post. But the lack of state income tax in Texas boosted the value of the Rangers' offer, and Choo apparently also preferred to join Texas.

Since Choo turned down a qualifying offer from the Reds, his former club will receive a compensatory pick. Texas, meanwhile, stands to lose its first-round draft choice, though it could regain a choice in the sandwich round if Cruz signs elsewhere.

Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com reported that an agreement had been reached (via Twitter). Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News first reported (via Twitter) that the deal was expected to be worth $130MM. Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported that $5MM of Choo's 2014 salary was shifted to 2016-17 (via Twitter), and Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports tweeted that Choo's contract does not contain an opt-out but has a limited no-trade clause.

Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.


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393 Comments on "Rangers Sign Shin-Soo Choo"


Thizzie
1 year 8 months ago

Oh no, I hate long term contracts. Teams got to have flexibility

Muhamed Mashkulli
1 year 8 months ago

Its about time….

Quikmix
1 year 8 months ago

any idea where this puts the rangers payroll wise?

nms9807
1 year 8 months ago

Edited – 20 million for Choo.

They’re up to 133 million now with 3 empty spots.

nms9807
1 year 8 months ago

According to ESPN Texas was at 113 million before Choo.

I’d assume he gets somewhere around 15-20 million, and they have 3 empty roster spots.

They’ll likely have around 130-135 million committed.

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

I think Choo is a nice player but i’m not okay with giving a platoon player 7 years.

livestrong77nyyankz
1 year 8 months ago

True, but he has a cannon, gets on base, and has some pop. Put him in leadoff and you’re good to go.

Ryan Graywacz
1 year 8 months ago

One of the highest OBPs in baseball, 20 bombs, 100+ runs I think. He’s not a platoon player.

livestrong77nyyankz
1 year 8 months ago

He has horrible splits. Dreadful, which would suggest that he needs to platooned.

Ryan Graywacz
1 year 8 months ago

If he needed to be platooned, he would have been the last 3 years when he has been one of the toughest guys to get on base. This guy would have been a Billy Beane machine if Oakland had the money to spend.

Paulie Corleone
1 year 8 months ago

I watched him play in Cincinnati against the Pirates. If he comes up against a lefty, it’s almost an automatic out. He kills (KILLS!) righties, but he is bad against lefties. He should be platooned, ideally, although most teams don’t have the depth to do it.

Yes, he has good numbers and he’s an on base machine. That doesn’t mean that he’s good against lefties though.

Mike Query
1 year 8 months ago

Got on base against lefties at a .350 clip last year, thats likely better than any RH guy you would platoon him with.

Yettyskill
1 year 8 months ago

And this should end this silly debate, .347 to be exact

Paulie Corleone
1 year 8 months ago

Yeah, and a .612 OPS against lefties last year with a .265 slg % should end the debate too.

That’s Clint Barmes territory

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Who cares? A guy that dominates righties and gets on base plenty against lefties works just fine for me.

LazerTown
1 year 8 months ago

But obp is much more valuable than slg. And Barnes is career .529 ops vs lefties.

1 year 8 months ago

plus he gets 76 games in the AL West. Cant think of many talented LHP in the AL West and his career numbers vs LHP are better than the .200 BA he put up last year while his OBP has stayed consistent.

Scott
1 year 8 months ago

First of all, no, .347 isn’t an insurmountable OBP for the other half of a platoon match up. And secondly, I would gladly sacrifice a few OBP points to get someone who could at least MAKE CONTACT when he’s not up there getting walked. OBP is a great stat. It is not, however, the only stat you need to consult in evaluating matchups.

Adam Wainwright had a higher overall SLG% last year than Choo did against lefties.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Excellent point. BUT….did you happen to look at how many times he got hit by a pitch last year? 26!! (yes Twenty Six) and 13 of those 26 were against LHP.

If we take away HBP out of the OBP calculation, it drops down to .307 against LHP. Not Terrible, but still not good.

david
1 year 8 months ago

His On Base Percentage vs. Lefties last year was .349 – perhaps you should alter your “automatic out” rhetoric.

That OBP would have been second on the Rangers without including his stats vs RHP, which averaged him out to a .423 OBP – He is NOT a platoon player.

livestrong77nyyankz
1 year 8 months ago

His contract dictates that he will not be platooned but his performance against lefties indicate otherwise. I already listed that he is a very useful player for many reasons. I like him as a player.

monkeyking42
1 year 8 months ago

His splits are more dramatic than most, but I think people are making too much of this. Most lefties have serious platoon splits. CarGo, for example, drops to a 101 wRC+ against lefties (roughly a league average hitter). Josh Hamilton is at 102 for his career. Cano is at 110. Choo’s a ways beneath those guys with a 92 wRC+ against lefties for his career. But that’s not dreadful. It’s just a little below average. It’s not like he’s Garrett Jones where you’re basically forced to bring in a pinch hitter any time a lefty steps in.

Scott
1 year 8 months ago

And that’s why Garrett Jones is on a 2yr/$7.75 mil deal.

For $130 million, you should be getting more than a guy who absolutely cannot put the bat on the ball against lefties.

monkeyking42
1 year 8 months ago

You’re paying attention to the wrong part of that comparison. His numbers are a lot closer to Robinson Cano’s than they are to Garrett Jones’s. A .243/.340/.341 line is not demonstrative of someone who “absolutely cannot put the bat on the ball against lefties.”

Scott
1 year 8 months ago

That’s exactly what it is demonstrative of. I chose my phrasing deliberately: he did not HIT lefties last year. He walked against them.

And it was significantly pronounced last year. His .265 SLG% and .050 ISO% are PUTRID. Chone Figgins’ career ISO is almost DOUBLE that. The funny thing is that his contact rate against lefties went up over his career marks last year quite a bit (27.7% career K-rate, 19.9% last year), and he STILL couldn’t hit them. 8 XBH, 0HR. At what point does a player with this limited hitting ability, especially as they age and the problem is magnified over 7 years, just become exploited by LHPs who realize they can just go back to throwing him strikes?

Defiant Fiandt
1 year 8 months ago

What difference does it make…he should be batting one or two and getting on base. Set him down his 10 games a year against lefties. As long as he’s playing at a level like he has so far, you’ll be happy. He’s a very good player.

monkeyking42
1 year 8 months ago

“I chose my phrasing deliberately: he did not HIT lefties last year”

That isn’t how you phrased it though, so how deliberate could it be? He “put the bat on the ball” against lefties last year at a roughly league average rate.

Anyway, your concern is definitely legitimate if the one-year splits demonstrate an actual trend. Given the inherent variability of one-year split statistics, that’s not a safe assumption though. The research I’ve seen shows that platoon splits tend not to widen much over time, on average:
link to baseballprospectus.com

Either way, it’s a huge contract for a guy at his age with his injury history, his uneven performance, and yes, his platoon splits. But if he can muster something like his career average against lefties, he should be a viable everyday player for a few years yet, which was the point initially being argued.

slider32
1 year 8 months ago

Now the Angels need to trade for Price, he will nullify both Fielder and Choo along the other lefty pitchers -Wilson- Scaggs- Santiago make Di Poto’s moves look even better with the 3 way trade. The Angels can throw all leftys at them.

1 year 8 months ago

Yeah but how are those pitchers gonna fare against Rios and Beltre? Not to mention Fielder actually handles LHP better than he does RHP

Wudlander3000
1 year 8 months ago

you took a mere sample size of the 2013 regular season to state that fielder actually handles LHP better than RHP. that’s not a good move. from 2006 to 2012 he handled rhp much better. over his career fielder is .267/.347/.457 agaisnt LHP and .295/.408/.562 against RHP. oh and don’t forget his laughable postseason performances against LHPs. this only suggests that 2013 was a “fluke” and nothing else.

1 year 8 months ago

No I actually looked at his career numbers vs LH starters because the comment I replied to was referring to the left handed starters of the Angels. Fielder’s career numbers vs left handed starters are better than his career numbers vs RH starters and his postseason numbers last season were vs all pitchers. He has struggled in the postseason his whole career, nobody is arguing that.

His career numbers vs LH relievers are awful no doubt, but Skaggs and Santiago were not brought in to pitch out of the pen

1 year 8 months ago

No I actually looked at his career numbers vs LH starters because the comment I replied to was referring to the left handed starters of the Angels. Fielder’s career numbers vs left handed starters are better than his career numbers vs RH starters and his postseason numbers last season were vs all pitchers. He has struggled in the postseason his whole career, nobody is arguing that.

His career numbers vs LH relievers are awful no doubt, but Skaggs and Santiago were not brought in to pitch out of the pen

1 year 8 months ago

Also those numbers vs LHP have been solid for the past 3 seasons which clearly debunks that 2013 was a fluke. Its called an adjustment made by a hitter

1 year 8 months ago

Also those numbers vs LHP have been solid for the past 3 seasons which clearly debunks that 2013 was a fluke. Its called an adjustment made by a hitter

1 year 8 months ago

Also those numbers vs LHP have been solid for the past 3 seasons which clearly debunks that 2013 was a fluke. Its called an adjustment made by a hitter

p_phelps09
1 year 8 months ago

Even with his bad avg against lhp choo still has a higher ops against lefties than Ian did overall so its still an upgrade at the leadoff spot no matter how you look at it.

charles stevens
1 year 8 months ago

He is if you look at his numbers against lefties.

Scott
1 year 8 months ago

.612 OPS against lefties, and a 1.011 against righties.

I think the problem here is that you don’t understand the meaning of the word “platoon” player, because those splits suggest EXACTLY that. He could still draw some walks against the lefties, but oddly enough he didn’t hit a single home run (of his 21) last year against a LHP.

Career, it’s a little less pronounced, but still awful. .680 vs. .932.

monkeyking42
1 year 8 months ago

OPS is a little deceptive on this one though, because every point of OBP is worth more than a point of SLG. Normally this doesn’t skew the numbers much, but with Choo you’re looking at a career line against lefties of .243/.340/.341. His power completely disappears, but that’s still a good OBP, and overall translates to a 92 wRC+. Below average, but not terrible.

Scott
1 year 8 months ago

I’m aware of that (as I’ve said above), but 92 is more than just “below average,” (though technically also that) and in the context of this discussion (about the contract he just received), is significantly below what you expect for such money.

OBP is way, way too hard of a fall back stat for people that just saw Moneyball as a movie in 2011. He can draw walks off of lefties, and that’s fine. It’s indisputably important to get on base. But when you’re COMPLETELY neutralized as a HITTER, you lose significant value in key situations. He would have negative value relative to most right handed platoon “replacement players” (WARPP, I suppose you could call it?). As the hitting inability becomes more pronounced (above, you’ll note that his LHP SLG% was lower last year than Adam Wainwright’s overall number), the long-term effect is to essentially treat someone like a pitcher: throw strikes and just LET them hit the ball and get themselves out. It’s too easy a weakness to exploit for a long-term deal player, and he could/should be replaced against lefties.

You mentioned Garrett Jones above. Assuming he were opposite-handed and to be used in a platoon here, would you not take the 10 point OBP reduction (.337 career against his better half) in exchange for the 224 point up-tick in SLG?

timani1
1 year 8 months ago

But pitchers aren’t just “letting” him hit the ball to get himself out. I imagine if they just “let” him hit the ball, he would hit better than .243 and slug better as well. They are pitching to him like the weapon that he can be. He still gets on base, which means he’s not chasing pitches that much.

monkeyking42
1 year 8 months ago

What would be a more appropriate term than “below average”? A full-time wRC+ of 92 would put him in-line with 2013’s Trevor Plouffe and Brandon Phillips.

As for having negative value relative to a replacement-level right-handed platoon player, I think you’d have to prove that out. Can we take Jesus Guzman as an example? By fWAR, he was replacement level last year. He hit that mark by hitting .226/.297/.378 for a wRC+ of 92 (exactly Choo’s career mark against lefties). He also put up negative defensive value in a small sample. Stands to a reason that an average fielder could put up even worse offensive numbers to reach 0 WAR. Given that Choo is an average-ish corner outfielder and average-ish baserunner, he could outplay a replacement-level right-handed platooner just by hitting his career numbers vs. lefties.

Tim Korey
1 year 8 months ago

Lucky for Choo that right handed pitchers are still allowed in the majors.

skandy1
1 year 8 months ago

…with a 207 avg the last 2 yrs vs LH?

Casor_G
1 year 8 months ago

I think he is better than a platoon player, he just isn’t good enough for 7 years at 20 mil a year

jason
1 year 8 months ago

you could find a fault in any player if you want to….

david
1 year 8 months ago

His OBP vs LHP last year was .349 – the only Ranger with over 300 AB and a higher OBP on the season overall was Adrian Beltre. He has a near .400 career OBP, and that includes lefties!

I, along with millions of other fans out there, are glad you aren’t running a team.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

“His OBP vs LHP last year was .349″

Thanks in large part to getting hit by a pitch 13 times by LHP (26 overall for the season). If we remove HBP, his OBP against LHP is .307

david
1 year 7 months ago

Took you awhile to come up with a rebuttal, and a somewhat weak one at that. Do you take out HBP when you talk about anyone else’s or even his RHP stats? He’s gotten hit his entire career, it’s a repeatable skill.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

Getting hit by a pitch takes absolutely no skill whatsoever. I’m not saying it shouldn’t coubt towards OBP but it’s clearly a huge reason why it’s high. He flat out stinks against LHP and I just feel that his OBP last season is a bit misleading. Most people see it as an ability to draw BBs which he does quite well too

david
1 year 7 months ago

If there’s “absolutely no skill whatsoever,” then why do some hitters consistently get hit more than others?

Have you ever faced a pitcher throwing 85+ mph? It takes a little skill and a lot of balls to learn how to take a pitch like he does. Most jump out of the way. (And for good reason: injuries)

If you’re not going to give him anything for it, fine. But you certainly shouldn’t dock him for it to make your point. The man gets on base, period.

MB923
1 year 7 months ago

“then why do some hitters consistently get hit more than others?”

Because some players crowd the plate more than others. Not sure how much Choo does it though.

“But you certainly shouldn’t dock him for it to make your point. The man gets on base, period.”

I never said he doesn’t get on base, I’m just simply pointing out the HBP’s which are more times than not a bad throw by the pitcher, was a huge factor why last year, a .040 difference.

I think he’s a great player, but I also think he is very poor against LHP. I never called him a platoon player like others have.

Seanb1223
1 year 8 months ago

The Rangers lineup just got a whole lot better. With the bullpen and starting pitching, Texas has to be the favorites for the AL West.

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

2nd Oakland still are the favorites.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

How? Rangers have improved significantly while Oakland is basically the same team.

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers lost their closer and Kinsler plus no Cruz while adding 2 players. The A’s changed out a starter and a closer but rebuilt the back of the bullpen. The A’s also added a super utility player and a stronger 4th outfielder. Scouts still pick the A’s as the team to beat.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers will be adding Choo and Fielder to a team that won 91 games last year. And will be replacing Kinsler with Profar, Nathan with Scheppers and the Tepesch/Grimm/Wolf disaster with a healthy Matt Harrison.

The A’s have replaced Balfour with Johnson, Smith with Gentry, Blevins with Gregerson, and added Kazmir. Come on man.

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

So who is replacing Scheppers place in the bullpen? Who is replacing Profar place as super utility? Who is replacing Cruz? Who is replacing AJ behind the plate? So that is 4 big downgrades you failed to mention. Rangers fans can always dream of a world series trophy but can go to Oakland to see 4.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Really?

1. Feliz takes over the bullpen spot
2. Fielder EASILY covers Cruz production and then some.
3. Super utility? Really?
4. You got me good here bro. OAK will be favorites because we lost AJP.

Kyle
1 year 8 months ago

Argh, I knew Texas should have re-signed AJP! Now we’ll never defeat the A’s, much less win a World Series!

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

Starting catcher who batted .192 is a improvement? That is funny. Feliz taken out of the rotation to be a closer now you have another hole. Texas Bench is weak very weak especialy faciung the many lefty relievers coming in to face Choo and Fielder. You got to love the optimistic ranger fans who believe anything can happen.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

You’re just reaching now. No one said we improved at catcher. You got me there! Pat yourself on the back! How is Feliz being taken out of the rotation if he didn’t start a single game last year? Then bench is weak? Our bench has Michael Choice, Engel Beltre, and JP Arencibia. All we need now is a back up infielder.

Are you done pretending that you know what you’re talking about when it comes to the Rangers yet?

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

Don’t need to pretend. The last 2 years the rangers were the ones to beat according to ranger fans and they were beat. Never count on players have career years. The division will be tougher and the A’s have improved even if you hate to admit it.

LoneTXRanger
1 year 8 months ago

I really believe that if we give Soto a shot to play almost everyday, we can see some solid numbers. He has raw power, the Angles can attest to that from first hand experience. Lets give Soto a shot.

Steven Russell
1 year 8 months ago

Not to mention Rios was was a mid season acquisition so HE basically replaces Cruz.

Jay Sanders
1 year 8 months ago

They didn’t make the playoffs with Rios either.

Steven Russell
1 year 8 months ago

Didn’t say they did but a full season with him replacing Murphy and Choo replacing Cruz…they automatically improve.

Jay Sanders
1 year 8 months ago

Cruz had more HR, a higher AVG, and a higher SLG than Fielder last year despite playing 50 less games. How will Fielder “easily” replace him?

Chet Steadman
1 year 7 months ago

you’re comparing basically a career year from Cruz to Prince’s worst season. Cruz is a strikeout machine, the last thing we need.

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

It’s a massive waste to use Profar as a utility player. He needs everyday play at a regular position at this point.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Well……..then it’s a good thing he’s Texas’ starting 2b…

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

Yep

Jay Sanders
1 year 8 months ago

Yea I’m sure there will be no drop in production from Kinsler to the .230 hitting Profar.

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

Getting him into a consistent position and allowing him get the position down and start focusing on hitting should help. It beats throwing him into different positions every day and still getting that .230 hitting. The guy is 20 and has a far higher upside but using him as a utility player just stunts his growth. Also Profar is going to be an amazing defensive player.

Jay Sanders
1 year 8 months ago

Maybe because the Rangers have lost Murphy, Garza, Nathan, Cruz, Pierzynski, Kinsler, and Gentry and think that spending $250 million on two 30 year old players is somehow going to make them “better”.

talcha32
1 year 8 months ago

Rangers have already replaced that production and then some. Only position they didn’t get better at is catcher.

Jay Sanders
1 year 8 months ago

Garza > Harrison, Nathan > Scheppers, Pierzynski > Arencibia, Kinsler > Profar, Cruz = Fielder (although Cruz was way better last year), Gentry > Choice…. the only upgrade was Choo over Murphy. Not too mention that Beltre has to fall off at some point. Rangers are no better than last year.

txftw
1 year 8 months ago

See you lost all credibility when you said Cruz=Fielder

txftw
1 year 8 months ago

See you lost all credibility when you said Cruz=Fielder

Dbacksfan44
1 year 8 months ago

I think 7 yr 147 million

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

Boras does it again! Gets a player that should have no longer than a 5 year deal a 7 year deal.

Casor_G
1 year 8 months ago

Why do these teams keep throwing away so much money!

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

One thing about the rangers is they will see lots of lefties this year. The team is stacked against righties but lefties will give them trouble. The rangers 2 best hitters against lefties were traded.

JustAnother24
1 year 8 months ago

There are only 1 maybe 2 starting lefty pitchers in the AL West that are in the top 2 of their teams respective pitching rotation; meaning there is no discernable ace lefty in the AL West. CJ Wilson is one. I don’t know if there is a second.

liberalconservative
1 year 8 months ago

Oakland has the best lefty relief in baseball. The angels just picked up 2 lefty starters. So expect Choo and Fielder to struggle at times.

lwayne
1 year 8 months ago

Most lefties are # 4 or 5 at best. Always good to face the bottom rungs.

Paulie Corleone
1 year 8 months ago

They aren’t throwing it away if they’re still making profit

NickinIthaca
1 year 8 months ago

Boras obviously wanted him to hold out until the Brett Pill situation was resolved…

Also, are any pitchers ever going to sign?

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

All waiting on Tanaka and the Golden Eagles to stop wasting everyone’s time.

NickinIthaca
1 year 8 months ago

You’d think they’d just go for it, and set Tanaka’s market/lower his bargaining power, as opposed to the other way around…

outlawsundown
1 year 8 months ago

My guess would be the pitchers’ agents aren’t talking serious prices until Tanaka sets the the bar.

Thizzie
1 year 8 months ago

I would rather have Nellie for 3 than Choo for 7

sfes
1 year 8 months ago

Cruz is terrible.

Thizzie
1 year 8 months ago

I like Cruz to DH and let Choice handle LF.
Cruz rakes

sfes
1 year 8 months ago

um… 1.3, 1.1, and 1.5 fWARs over the last 3 years. He is TERRIBLE.

Thizzie
1 year 8 months ago

I’ve been watching him for years, he is not terrible

sfes
1 year 8 months ago

OK OK not terrible but he stinks. Definitely overrated and I wouldn’t expect him to “rake” at ages 33, 34, and 35.

sfes
1 year 8 months ago

I’d take Choo in a heartbeat. At least over the first part of his contract you’d get great production with his skill set. Cruz going forward for ages 33, 34, and 35 at less than 2 WAR each? I’d rather take the risk on Choo.

Yettyskill
1 year 8 months ago

You would rather the lesser player who can’t match Choo’s production even when juicing? A horrid OF who’s only really position is DH?

There is no debate that Choo is WAY ahead of Nellie offensively or defensively.

Thizzie
1 year 8 months ago

Yes I would