Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Orioles Finalists For Arroyo

2:55pm: Arroyo may have a clearer picture of where he's going to land by the end of the day today, a baseball source tells ESPN's Jerry Crasnick (Twitter link).

FRIDAY, 12:44pm: Jim Bowden of ESPN and MLB Network Radio tweets that Arroyo will end up signing with either the Dodgers or the Diamondbacks.

THURSDAY: Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that Arroyo's camp has lowered the asking price to the two-year, $22MM range, and the Orioles and Diamondbacks are "definitely pushing" for the veteran righty.

WEDNESDAY, 9:32pm: The D'Backs are "very serious" about signing Arroyo and are planning to meet with him, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe tweets.

2:11pm: The Diamondbacks, Dodgers, and Orioles are the three finalists to land free agent starter Bronson Arroyo, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today (via Twitter). Among those clubs, the Diamondbacks are "slight favorites" to lock up the soon-to-be 37-year-old.

We heard recently that Arroyo had yet to receive a firm offer, but reported interest has never waned in the durable righty. Another recent report suggested that Arroyo has continued to ask clubs for a third guaranteed year. Arizona, a newer entrant to the chase for Arroyo, is said to be interested in a two-year pact. 


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122 Comments on "Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Orioles Finalists For Arroyo"


Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

I’ll say he ends up with the Dodgers. The Diamondbacks and Orioles haven’t had luck on their side this offseason.

PittsburghPirates0022
1 year 6 months ago

Diamondbacks are the slight favorites

Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

I don’t believe reporters when they say so and so are the “favorites” to land ________. We all know what happened with Tanaka.

Sami20
1 year 6 months ago

Yankees were always favorites

Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

First it was the Yankees, then it was the Dodgers, then Mariners, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs. It changed depending on who you asked.

johnsilver
1 year 6 months ago

Hey.. This is one FA I’d pull for the Yank’s to win :-)

James Pinsky
1 year 6 months ago

It’s not a lack of luck with the Orioles. It’s a philosophy about a lack of money.

Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

I think the Orioles get Burnett… IMO I don’t think they can compete with the Dodgers if they are serious about him.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I think luck would be on the Dbacks side not to get him.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I think luck would be on the Dbacks side not to get him.

Dbacksfan44
1 year 6 months ago

I think Arroyo would be a nice addition for the Dbacks. He is a good pitcher and can provide some veteran leadership for a realtively young team

Dustin Smith
1 year 6 months ago

He’s a solid pitcher, but I’d be slightly worried about pitching in that park. I know he’s been in cincy, but when Arroyo has struggled, its been with HRs. Full disclose I’m a dodger fan and hope he goes there, but I think he could help wherever he ends up

Laurence Adams
1 year 6 months ago

a soft tosser like him, wouldn’t pitch well in Arizona, in my opinion. If he was there for a stretch run, it might be a different thing….but an entire season?…of 30-some starts?…in that launchpad, in Phoenix?…NOT!

GRINGOMHT
1 year 6 months ago

Sure if you look at it that with the current rotation will never win the division and don’t seem to want to. Add another mediocre pitcher to McCarthy & Cahill and maybe we’ll finish last

Mike
1 year 6 months ago

Pick Arizona. I need to stay alive in the FA Contest.

Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

How many have you gotten right so far?

Mike
1 year 6 months ago

I have 7 right. First place is 13.

Riaaaaaa
1 year 6 months ago

Wow… If I’d entered, I’m sure I would have gotten just about everything wrong.

Matt Mccarron
1 year 6 months ago

I picked Halladay to sign with the Jays, which happened, but they put down ‘retirement.’ Pretty sure he signed a 1 day deal to retire with them.

Michael
1 year 6 months ago

I picked Ellsbury to sign with Texas and it’s been downhill since. I’m favoring Baltimore with Arroyo, though.

Matt Mccarron
1 year 6 months ago

I think Amaro will shock and overpay, but Baltimore seems most reasonable.

Matt Mccarron
1 year 6 months ago

I think Amaro will shock and overpay, but Baltimore seems most reasonable.

Michael
1 year 6 months ago

I picked Ellsbury to sign with Texas and it’s been downhill since. I’m favoring Baltimore with Arroyo, though.

Luke Wise
1 year 6 months ago

Even though he pitched well at GAB, I would still avoid AL East if I were him.

Matt Mccarron
1 year 6 months ago

Fly ball-type pitcher going to the AL east with all the left-handed sluggers they got there, I wouldn’t even consider if I was him. Ortiz, Ellsbury, McCann, Beltran, Tex, Davis, and theres just starting it.

Meh Sheep
1 year 6 months ago

If he goes to the Orioles he won’t be facing Davis.

Bleed_Orange
1 year 6 months ago

Probably his last contract, got a ring, not going to the hall… go where the money is even if it’s the AL East

Piratecaptain27
1 year 6 months ago

I think he ends up in Arizona they have the biggest need with that young staff. If he goes to the AL East he could get destroyed, look at his inter-league numbers. I know he pitched in Boston but that was a long time ago.

UltimateYankeeFan
1 year 6 months ago

If the Orioles sign him he will be a disaster in the AL East. With the way he gives up home runs it will be a “festivus” for the rest of the AL East teams.

1 year 6 months ago

The Pesky pole better not have tinsel on it. It’s distracting.

alexamato
1 year 6 months ago

I don’t see where the Dodgers would fit him in, without eating Beckett’s contract..
I mean, you have Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Haren and Beckett..

Joe Orsatti
1 year 6 months ago

Also Billingsley

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

But not until June or July. What they do with Arroyo will tell us a lot about whether they think Beckett can pitch.

Joe Orsatti
1 year 6 months ago

Doesn’t arroyo want at least 2 years? They would have 7 big league starters come July each making a lot of money. They had the same problem last year but suffered injuries after dropping Harang. They need to trade one and sign a ton of low risk guys like Jake Westbrook or Jair Jurrjens as an emergency starter.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

The talk is he wants three guaranteed, which I doubt the Dodgers give him. Another team with a greater need and less starting pitching coming up might though. I agree they need to stock away some starters in the minors, and they probably will, but I think it’s premature to talk about trades. Still one open starting slot.

Joe Orsatti
1 year 6 months ago

Without Bronson, their rotation winds up like this. I’d imagine Bronson slates 4th between Ryu and Beckett.
1.) Kershaw
2.) Grenkie
3,) Ryu
4.) Beckett
5.) Haren
6.) Billingsly*
7.) Stephen Fife

thegrayrace
1 year 6 months ago

Haren will be the #4 starter as it stands now.

Beckett, Magill and Fife will fight it out for the #5 spot in Spring Training, with Zach Lee having an outside chance.

Haren wasn’t signed for $10m to be relegated to the bullpen. Beckett is a sunk cost.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

Beckett is a sunk cost at this point, but he could very well start the season on the DL, leaving the unappealing options of Fife and Magill.

vtadave
1 year 6 months ago

Yeah but the Dodgers don’t really need a fifth starter until somewhere around April 19 given the funky schedule with the Australia trip and then several early off-days. I’d rather they avoid Arroyo and go with one of Fife, Lee, Stripling, or worst-case, Magill until Beckett is ready.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

We’re going to have to say if not when on Beckett. Like I said when the discussion started, how interested the Dodgers are in Arroyo is going to tell us something about whether or not Beckett is expected to pitch again. Even if the Dodgers don’t need a #5 for a few weeks, they aren’t going to want to break camp without one. Those other options sound a lot better to me as backups if someone gets hurt.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

We’re going to have to say if not when on Beckett. Like I said when the discussion started, how interested the Dodgers are in Arroyo is going to tell us something about whether or not Beckett is expected to pitch again. Even if the Dodgers don’t need a #5 for a few weeks, they aren’t going to want to break camp without one. Those other options sound a lot better to me as backups if someone gets hurt.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

Beckett is a sunk cost at this point, but he could very well start the season on the DL, leaving the unappealing options of Fife and Magill.

RoadWarriorUSCA
1 year 6 months ago

Me in my honest opinion he is best fit with the D-Backs.

Laurence Adams
1 year 6 months ago

he’ll end up in LA…period. He likes to hit, and he’s probably tired of pitching in all those fishbowls in the NL Central.

DerekJeterDan
1 year 6 months ago

Baltimore Orioles Depth Chart Lists Four Starters –
Bud Norris, Miguel Gonzalez, Chris Tillman, & Wei Yin Chen.
The addition of Bronson Arroyo would certainly round things out fittingly.

Joe Orsatti
1 year 6 months ago

Orioles should get him. They desperately need a new starter.

Joe Orsatti
1 year 6 months ago

Early in the process, like July, I can recall San Francisco being one of the favorites.

Spencer James
1 year 6 months ago

If he joins the O’s, he’ll know why teams were weary of giving him the 3-yr deal he was asking for.

BlueSkyLA
BlueSkyLA
1 year 6 months ago

Probably wary, too.

Robert Mango
1 year 6 months ago

If he agrees to sign with the O’s, there’s a 50/50 chance he’ll make it past THEIR physical. Apparently they now use different drs than the ones who passed Brian Roberts.

Meh Sheep
1 year 6 months ago

Brian Roberts got the concussion that lingered for years after signing his 4 year deal.

Robert Mango
1 year 6 months ago

If he agrees to sign with the O’s, there’s a 50/50 chance he’ll make it past THEIR physical. Apparently they now use different drs than the ones who passed Brian Roberts.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Seems a little questionable whether he’d even be an upgrade on the 5th starters in LA and Arizona. Maybe a bit. AZ just seems determined to spend $$ on a pitcher come heck or high water.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I agree that Arizona is determined to get a starter. What I don’t understand is why don’t they at least offer Burnett a hefty 1 year deal and make him turn it down (yes I know he prefers the east coast, but a $22 million, 1 year deal would be beneficial to both sides).

slasher016
1 year 6 months ago

Because you could get Arroyo for 2 years for that price (or close to it?)

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

But Arroyo is not good… barely better than what they have. Burnett was a borderline ace throughout last year.

slasher016
1 year 6 months ago

That’s hilarious considering Arroyo had a higher WAR and lower WHIP last year. Burnett also threw 10 fewer innings.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

What WAR are you looking at? Fangraphs had Burnett at 4 WAR and Arroyo at .8. WHIP is an overrated stat, when compared to fip and xfip. Also, 10 innings is not that big of a difference in the course of a 162 game season.

slasher016
1 year 6 months ago

Baseball reference WAR. WHIP is overrated? You prefer pitchers that allow more baserunners?

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

It’s highly variable and based in luck. I also prefer pitchers that are actually able to strike people out (especially in hitters’ parks). You prefer more variable/lucky stats like WHIP instead of more mathematical stats that evaluate pitchers?

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

It’s highly variable and based in luck. I also prefer pitchers that are actually able to strike people out (especially in hitters’ parks). You prefer more variable/lucky stats like WHIP instead of more mathematical stats that evaluate pitchers?

slasher016
1 year 6 months ago

So Kershaw allows fewer baserunners because he’s lucky?

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

Logical fallacy – appeal to extremes (all his other stats like FIP are good too, so WHIP is bound to be good when FIP is as well over long periods of time). My argument is that FIP and xFIP are better indicators of performance than WHIP on a year – year basis and that WHIP is more influenced over the course of a season by luck (the quality of team fielding and BABIP). Maybe looking up the stats that I talked about would help.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

Logical fallacy – appeal to extremes (all his other stats like FIP are good too, so WHIP is bound to be good when FIP is as well over long periods of time). My argument is that FIP and xFIP are better indicators of performance than WHIP on a year – year basis and that WHIP is more influenced over the course of a season by luck (the quality of team fielding and BABIP). Maybe looking up the stats that I talked about would help.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

The idea that Arroyo was better than Burnett last year is just about the funniest thing I’ve seen on this blog in months. And that’s saying something.

slasher016
1 year 6 months ago

Who said he was better? They had comparable years. To say Burnett is an “ace” and Arroyo is “not good” just is wrong, plain and simple.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I agree that Arizona is determined to get a starter. What I don’t understand is why don’t they at least offer Burnett a hefty 1 year deal and make him turn it down (yes I know he prefers the east coast, but a $22 million, 1 year deal would be beneficial to both sides).

Dylan Griffin
1 year 6 months ago

My guess is LAD. Wouldn’t be a smart move to pitch in the AL East, and LAD is more favorable for pitchers than ARI and Bal. Also, with his age, he may like another shot at the championship, and the best shot may be in LAD. Of course, LAD will have all the $$ he may want. I’d like to see him go to ARI however…

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I would rather see Delgado get the opportunity as an Arizona fan.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

I would rather see Delgado get the opportunity as an Arizona fan.

Anthony Hughes
1 year 6 months ago

I can appreciate what Arroyo has done in his career, but I hope the Dodgers pass. I don’t see the upside with him, and he wouldn’t be a part of the postseason rotation. I’d rather the Dodgers give a chance to Zach Lee, if it happens that Beckett can’t get it done and Fife can’t get it done. They only need a #5 starter until June or so, anyway, if Billingsley comes back fine. And if #5 starter is still a problem around midseason, fine, swing a trade. I don’t want to commit 2 or more years to a 37-year-old pitcher who throws an 87 MPH fastball.

Matt
1 year 6 months ago

I 100% agree. With all the money wasted on Beckett, I’d rather give him a chance to be a decent #5 and if not we can turn to Fife, Lee, or maybe even Stripling until Billingsley is ready.

Matt
1 year 6 months ago

I 100% agree. With all the money wasted on Beckett, I’d rather give him a chance to be a decent #5 and if not we can turn to Fife, Lee, or maybe even Stripling until Billingsley is ready.

Anthony Hughes
1 year 6 months ago

I can appreciate what Arroyo has done in his career, but I hope the Dodgers pass. I don’t see the upside with him, and he wouldn’t be a part of the postseason rotation. I’d rather the Dodgers give a chance to Zach Lee, if it happens that Beckett can’t get it done and Fife can’t get it done. They only need a #5 starter until June or so, anyway, if Billingsley comes back fine. And if #5 starter is still a problem around midseason, fine, swing a trade. I don’t want to commit 2 or more years to a 37-year-old pitcher who throws an 87 MPH fastball.

Robert Mango
1 year 6 months ago

I dont understand the hate for this guy on this board. He’s not an ace, never has been, but has been a solid 2 – 3 guy his entire career. And he did it in Cinny and Boston, which isn’t the greatest ballparks for pitchers. Dodgers have 0 need for pitching so I bet it comes down to Balt or Arizona. Out of need, I say Ari signs him.

Matt
1 year 6 months ago

Not entire career. But 4 of the last 5 years he has been good.

Seamaholic
1 year 6 months ago

Gotta be a pretty bad rotation for Bronson to be a 2 or 3. He’s a very good back end guy. Problem is, Arizona already has 4 guys better than him, and he’s the fifth only because the best pitching prospect in baseball (or 2nd best) is still a few months away. Seems like a weird place for the Dbacks to spend a bunch of money.

Mr_Anderson1017
1 year 6 months ago

They’re probably banking on McCarthy getting hurt/being horrible again.

mmiller54
1 year 6 months ago

an argument can even be made that Delgado will be better this year too. So Cahill, Delgado, McCarthy, Corbin, and Miley could all be more valuable than Bronson this year.