Latest On Trade Talks Between Mariners, Rays

FRIDAY: Taijuan Walker‘s name is once again at the center of trade talks surrounding Price, reports Heyman. He adds that Tampa has also expressed interest in the likes of corner infield prospect D.J. Peterson and James Paxton, neither of which is particularly surprising; Peterson and Paxton are two of the top young players in Seattle’s system.

The two sides are discussing various iterations of deals for Price, Zobrist or both. Heyman adds that Seattle might be willing to include Brad Miller in a deal as well, given the emergence of Triple-A shortstop Chris Taylor. The M’s, however, have said they won’t deal Mike Zunino.

THURSDAY, 9:51pm: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Mariners’ talks with the Rays have been more focused on Zobrist than Price, and the two sides have been discussing Zobrist “for weeks.” Nick Franklin‘s name has frequently come up in talks, he adds.

Heyman also reports that the Mariners have spoken to the Twins about Josh Willingham and the White Sox about Dayan Viciedo, and he notes that he, too, has heard Byrd’s name in learning of the Mariners’ trade talks. One big league source tells Heyman, however, that a deal for Byrd is now “less than likely” due to his no-trade clause.

He also adds that the Mariners’ ownership group is very big on bringing in players who want to be in Seattle. Offseason comments by Price’s agent about his client not wanting to sign a long-term deal in Seattle seem to indicate that Price doesn’t fit that description. However, the team’s status as a legitimate postseason contender may have changed Price’s thinking on that front.

2:10pm: Though no deal is imminent, the Mariners have been engaged in ongoing discussions with the Rays regarding lefty David Price and utilityman Ben Zobrist, reports Jon Morosi of FOX Sports (Twitter links). Meanwhile, talks have stalled with the Phillies regarding Marlon Byrd.

Needless to say, Price and Zobrist both represent potential impact to contenders. Either player could presumably add value to just about every roster in baseball. That holds particularly true for Seattle, which could not only pair Price with current ace Felix Hernandez but would be able to play Zobrist at shortstop, outfield, or even first base.

Of course, the return for either — and, especially, both — would figure to be substantial. (It is not clear from Morosi’s report whether the two would be joined in any potential deal, or indeed whether the sides have progressed that far.) Tampa is said to be interested in beating the return that the Cubs received for Jeff Samardzija, if it deals Price at all. Certainly, a hypothetical pairing of Price and Zobrist (both under control for next season) would require a bigger return on paper than was commanded by Samardzija and Jason Hammel.

Meanwhile, the news on Byrd makes sense in light of last night’s report from ESPN.com’s Jim Bowden, which indicated that Byrd would ask the Mariners to guarantee his $8MM option for 2016 in order to waive his no-trade clause. Seattle is one of just four teams on Byrd’s no-trade list.

Steve Adams contributed to this post.


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364 Comments on "Latest On Trade Talks Between Mariners, Rays"


Jeff Miller
1 year 1 month ago

Catching the A’s this season isn’t realistic. 8 back with 67 to play is quite a big lead. Even if the A’s played just over .500 the rest of the (34-33) that’s a 93-69 record. The M’s would need to play 42-25 to match that. Then you gotta factor in the Angels who are just 1.5 behind the A’s.

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

Look what the Dodgers did last year though. I’m sure it won’t be easy but it can be done.

Ryan Fawcett
1 year 1 month ago

The M’s did go 40-27 over a recent stretch. So adding Price and Zobrist to a team that already accomplished that then going 42-25 isn’t out of the question. Regardless though I think the chase is for the WC I don’t see the M’s taking the division.

Jeff Miller
1 year 1 month ago

Right, but that’s going under the assumption that both the A’s and Angels play no better than .500 for the next 67 games when they’ve got the 2 best records in baseball. It’s unlikely one of them plays .500 over the stretch, let alone both.

PWNdroia
1 year 1 month ago

Remember, Price only adds success 1/5 days.

SteveHB
1 year 1 month ago

Not entirely accurate. He is a lock to go 7 + which helps the pen stay fresh.

PWNdroia
1 year 1 month ago

You might be right, but he still only pitches once every five days.

NickinIthaca
1 year 1 month ago

Three years ago, two separate teams came back from 9 games back in September. If we should have learned anything by now, it’s that it ain’t over till it’s over.

SteveHB
1 year 1 month ago

Not really accurate…you have to count in the fact that he is almost guaranteed to give you seven + innings every time out. He will add value to anyone’s bull pen as well

Nozm
1 year 1 month ago

It can be done. If the M’s can have a breakout second half and continue to dominate with their pitching and defense. I do agree winning the division will be an uphill battle. Also let’s not forget the Angels are still wedged in there.

TheoHoyer
1 year 1 month ago

Isn’t Chris Taylor a shortstop? I believe the Rays have Hak-Ju Lee at AAA, but I think he’s struggling. But I suppose as the Cubs have shown, you can never have enough SS prospects..

EDIT: Also – Price’s value goes way, way, way down if they trade for him now, and then try to flip him at the deadline next July.

John Kreese
1 year 1 month ago

I’m not sure what the Rays have but Taylor is a guy on the rise in the M’s organization. Just won the MVP of the PCL All-Star Game. With Miller, Franklin, etc they have some SS options in the SEA organization.

If I’m SEA it’s a risk I take. Sure Price’s value goes down but you’d still get a nice player for him at the ’15 deadline.

Trock
1 year 1 month ago

I think the Cubs are making it a goal to have as many SS prospects they can possibly take!

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

The Rays also have Beckham, LOL. Hak-Ju hasn’t hit in AAA, how is he going to hit in the majors? Taylor is a better SS. The M’s can trade either Miller or Taylor. Add that to Franklin, Walker and a few more arms like Diaz (who was throwing 97 in the 6th last night in Clinton), Sanchez, Pries, Pike and even Elias or Erasmo could be part of a package. The M’s have the pieces and it won’t leave the cupboards bare.

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Some of those pieces can also be dealt to the Rockies by dealing couple prospects from either of those two teams to the Rays, Morneau heading to the Mariners to play first base and at times DH to give Hart a day off. Morrison, Smoak, and/or Montero is another piece that Rockies should be thinking about. Disregard on Chase Headley as he is not worth to acquire.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Headley? He is so 2012. Headley will never be what he was. No thanks.

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Other option is Justin Morneau as he’s better than Headley recently w/ the Rockies by not costing too much to acquire.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Morneau would be nice. Not sure the Rockies are looking to move him and his reasonable contract. Getting better talent is the key, the M’s biggest need is corner OF with a RHB being the preference.

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

What will it cost to acquire him and Carlos Gonzales to Seattle w/o sending Paxton, nor Walker? Rockies need pitching after major injury by Chatwood.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Not a chance. The Rockies may not be interwsted in moving Morneau. Cargo isn’t in discussion.

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Morneau for mid level prospects that have depth at some postions and are not getting too much attention like DJ Peterson, Taylor, and Tyler Pike would make sense for both teams.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Peterson and Taylor are top prospects. Taylor will be part of a package for a big deal top return. Morneau could be that if he’s available. DJ isn’t going anywhere.

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Kivelhan is a better piece for a mid tier prospect and outfielder Jabari Blash or Dario Pizzano for Morneau. How about that deal?

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

If you can get Dowd to do that deal, Seattle fans will write stories and sing songs about you. You may even get your own bobblehead.

TheoHoyer
1 year 1 month ago

Agreed, but I think Z is on the hot seat and would include Peterson to land both Price and Zobrist for 1.5 seaons.

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

There is no way. He just went on record saying he would not trade Peterson and I think he would want to hold onto what little credibility he has left or is starting to build back.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

He said he has no intention of trading Peterson. A good GM listens on everyone. For instance, if the Marlines offered Stanton for Peterson, Z would be a fool to say no.

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

Well obviously, but we are not talking about Stanton here. We are talking about 1.5 years of talent as opposed to numerous cost controlled years with Peterson. Come on, I’m sure you know how high Z gets on right handed power.

cjr45
1 year 1 month ago

It is Marlins not Marlines and Peterson is not considered an elite prospect. It would take at least one elite prospect to get Stanton.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Yeah yeah yeah. I saw that and didn’t edit it. Anyway, it all depends on what you consider an elite prospect and that wasn’t a serious trade proposal – it was simply an example of when a GM says a guy is untouchable, he’s never trouble untouchable because another GM could always make an overpay.

Peterson’s bat is considered elite. The only thing keeping him out of the top 20 is his defense.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

He said he had no intention of trading Peterson. That’s not the same thing. The right GM listens to all trade proposals and nothing is off limits. There’s just an overpay that would need to happen. As a Mariners fan, would I trade Felix? I wouldn’t plan to. But if the Cubs called and offered Rizzo, Bryant, Russell, Almorra, and Soler, we’d be foolhardy to not make that deal.

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

Z is not on the hot seat anymore. M’s will give him an extension at the end of the year.

cyberboo
1 year 1 month ago

For both Price and Zobrist, I can see the M’s giving up both Paxton, Walker, Franklin, Montero, and perhaps Ackley, since he needs a change of scenery to progress again.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Ackley and Montero at this point have extremely low value. Each alone might net a toolsy reliever. If that.

Encarnacion's Parrot
1 year 1 month ago

What is a toolsy reliever?

Lefebvre Believer
1 year 1 month ago

A reliever who in the offseason is also handy around the house.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

A relief pitcher who throws hard but doesn’t necessarily have command at the time (like what Danny Farquhar was when the Mariners got him, or what Brandon Maurer is right now).

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Maurer is a beast. He’s shooting lasers from his eyes and spite fireballs from his back side. I think he’s got rabies since they moved him to the pen.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

A relief pitcher who throws hard but doesn’t necessarily have command at the time (like what Danny Farquhar was when the Mariners got him, or what Brandon Maurer is right now).

AaronAngst
1 year 1 month ago

A figment of his imagination. Folks tend to get hung-up on scout-speak, and often use it in ways that aren’t appropriate.

AaronAngst
1 year 1 month ago

A figment of his imagination. Folks tend to get hung-up on scout-speak, and often use it in ways that aren’t appropriate.

Donald Munson
1 year 1 month ago

Does Montero have any value left?

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

None. Neither does Ackley for that matter. They’re both replacement value.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

No.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Yes, to the M’s at this point. He’s Hart insurance at DH, has an option for next year and doesn’t have to be moved. He’s starting to mash in Tacoma.

The_Unnatural
1 year 1 month ago

I doubt the M’s are giving up both Walker and Paxton. Elias is losing his effectiveness and his innings will likely be limited. Who would the M’s put in his place? Erasmo? Maurer? That’s tantamount to an automatic loss and the M’s are trying to win as many games possible. It’s probably something like Walker, Franklin, Peterson, and Sanchez or something like that. Throw in Smoak and Ackley for all I care.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Peterson isn’t going anywhere. I could see them moving Kivlehan or Romero, just not DJ.

Edit: and Taylor or Miller

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Make a three team trade w/ the Rockies by receiving Justin Morneau & David Price (his teammate Guyer or minor leaguer in AAA from the Rays to Colorado is a good fit). Rockies should get Maurer or Pryor to be a setup man/future closer.

Dogham
1 year 1 month ago

No thank you sir. Can’t have both Paxton and Walker – there are other pitchers further down in AA and A they can have.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Wow. I don’t know what to say to that.

FOmeOLS
1 year 1 month ago

That would be a great pickup for the Mariners, possibly enough to win the division, but oh how expensive that would be!

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

I think the package will be something like Walker, Franklin or Taylor, Wilson + either Sanchez or Pike. That will give the Rays three-four of our top 10 prospects. In my opinion that is more than what the A’s paid so it makes sense. I think the M’s system is still deep enough that it doesn’t hurt that bad.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 1 month ago

It would kill your franchise. You’d be successful for a couple of seasons, but then, after David Price refuses to sign any extension with Seattle, as he said he would do, what are you left with? You gave up all the young guys who would be ready by 2016…

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

Well first of all Walker, Paxton and Franklin do not count as “prospects” anymore as they have had enough service time.

M’s system will be left with Jackson, DJ, Diaz, Ghora, Morban, Marte, etc., The system will still have a few high upside guys. Jackson, DJ, Diaz and Ghora are all potential (or already are) top 100 type of prospects.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

You’d at least get draft comp, be left with some of the leftovers, and Alex Jackson!

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

But don’t you almost have to go for it during Cano’s good years? Cano is on the wrong side of 30. That contract is going to be an albatross around their necks for years to come. If they aren’t going all in now, what are you paying Cano 20+ million dollars a year for? To be a very expensive, very good player on a team that just misses the playoffs? Or maybe just makes the playoffs, but really only has a puncher’s chance of going anywhere?

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 1 month ago

But will Seattle be that much more of contenders with Price in the mix? Especially if they give up their best trade pieces for pitching when what they need is offense?

Jim Johnson
1 year 1 month ago

Any team with arguably the two best pitchers in baseball are serious contenders in the playoffs.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

The M’s need to score more than the other team. Improve where ever you can. If it means giving up fewer runs, so be it. Get the best talent you can. Who would want to face a rotation with Felix, Price, Iwakuma and Paxton in 5 or 7 game series?

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

Not just successful for a couple of seasons, this deal would give the M’s a good shot at making it deep into the playoffs. What is one WS worth?
The M’s don’t need a lot to be ready for 2016. Their major league roster is very, very young. The M’s need to get a legit LFer and someone to stabilize 1B. They have a solid bullpen full of young guys. What would a projected 2016 lineup look like?
1B Peterson/Morrison
2B Cano
SS Miller/Taylor whoever doesn’t get traded/Smith
3B Seager
LF Romero/Kivlehan
CF Jones
RF Saunders/Guerrero
C Zunino/Sucre/Hicks
Hmmm, that’s about what we have right now. I was going to try to add Zobrist, but he’s only signed thru next year. Or does he have an option?

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

What baseball needs is to move the amateur draft to six weeks later as some picks will be dealt w/ teams impacting the playoff races & being sellers just like in NBA & NFL should the new commish work out the plan.

Jeff Miller
1 year 1 month ago

Even if Byrd wanted his 3rd year picked up, the Phillies should be willing to pay that if the return is good enough. If the deal is Edwin Diaz and either Gabby Guerrero or Austin Wilson, that should be enough to warrant sending $10M ($8M for 2016 and $2M for 2015).

timpa
1 year 1 month ago

Cliff Lee + Byrd makes more sense. It’ll be cheaper in terms of prospects for Seattle while giving them more competitiveness in the present and holding onto their key pieces for the future.

Price ends up being a big overpay for 1.5 years of service. In terms of just Byrd Phillies should pay whatever it costs since it’s just money. You can’t throw tons of money into the draft anymore. Might as well use it to get prospects in a trade.

GD
1 year 1 month ago

Cole Hamels and Byrd might be safer bet than Lee at this point. But I totally agree.

Seattle pays WAY LESS for a Philly’s Ace SP and Byrd than Price and Zobrist.

Jeff Miller
1 year 1 month ago

I don’t see how it would be less for Hamels and Byrd, let alone way less. Hamels is signed through 2018 with an option for 2019 while Price is only controlled through next year. Zobrist and Byrd are owed similar money through next year and Byrd is more productive at this point.

flyerzfan12
flyerzfan12
1 year 1 month ago

All depends on Cliff Lee’s health too, no way anyone trades for him til they see him pitch in the majors. I don’t see him getting moved til August or the offseason.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Get ready, Mariners fans! This very realistically could cost Tai Walker, Nick Franklin, DJ Peterson, Austin Wilson, and Chris Taylor!

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

BOOOOO. Keep Taylor and Peterson and give them Ackley, E Ram, Montero, and Ketel Marte.

Tony Matias
1 year 1 month ago

I will never be ready for the cost of THOSE players for THESE rentals. M’s need to make a move, but this move could smack of a Bavasi type ending depending on who’s given up.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Yep. There are only two players in baseball that I would give up both Tai and DJ for and neither of those two guys play for the Tampa Bay Rays. One is in our division, and one is in the same state as the Rays…!

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

Trout and Stanton?

Tony Matias
1 year 1 month ago

Yup.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

For both of those guys? Yep. Well. Maybe McCutcheon too.

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

And Tulo?

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

No. Too injury prone. For me, for Tulo, it’s one or the other.

GD
1 year 1 month ago

Exactly! Plus Stanton would be a LONG TERM franchise player for us. That’s the type of player you give up our Farms Top Prospects for!

Tony Matias
1 year 1 month ago

Ohhhhh… Giancarlo!!

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 1 month ago

Too many fans forget that the cost of David Price is the entire future to their franchise.

Look at the Royals… they gave up Will Myers for James Shields… not a terrible move, as Shields has done really well… but they can’t find a stable right fielder (Myers, anyone?).

Or the Giants… they gave up Zack Wheeler for a 3-month rental of Carlos Beltran…. I promise, Sabean would kill to have Wheeler over most of the arms on their rotation.

The list goes on and on…

Moral of the story: one guy is not worth the future of your team. The Mariners can easily find an upgrade at starting pitcher that won’t cost them everything they’ve got and then some. Whoever gets David Price will certainly get a good pitcher… but is it really worth it?

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

If I’m the Mariners FO, I wouldn’t give up more than Walker and a quality lower-minors lotto ticket (Gabby Guerrero or Edwin Diaz, for example) for Price. And if Price walks before 2016, well, the Mariners get a draft to replenish a bit of what they gave up for a couple hopeful playoff runs.

For Zobrist, I would not give up more than a Nick Franklin/Chris Taylor type and the same sort of lottory ticket described above. Zobrist is worth less than Price as well, since he would surely take a QO in his mid-30s once his current deal runs out, and by that point he won’t be worth it (most likely), so no draft comp.
So if I’m the Mariners GM, I offer Walker, Franklin, Diaz, and Guerrero. If Friedmann says no, I offer the above individually and see if he says yes. Otherwise, I walk away.

Tired_OF_FakeRumors
1 year 1 month ago

Bartolo Colon will not be expensive and he has been pretty good this year except for some bad starts.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

He’ll be expensive in money. Isn’t he owed 11 million next year? A lot for a guy in his early 40s.

TheRealRyan
1 year 1 month ago

You know this goes both ways right? A few years ago the Tigers gave up 2 top 10 prospects, which are higher ranked than any in the M’s system currently, for a 2 year “rental” named Miguel Cabrera and that has worked out pretty nicely for them.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 1 month ago

Except Miguel Cabrera was willing to sign an extension with Detroit… we don’t even know if Price will sign an extension with Seattle… all we know now is that before the season, he said he wouldn’t… that might certainly change, but what we know as of now, he might not.

TheRealRyan
1 year 1 month ago

Except Cabrera was traded on Dec. 4, 2007 and didn’t sign his extension until March 24, 2008 after agreeing to a one year deal in Jan. of 2008 to avoid arbitration.

docmilo5
1 year 1 month ago

If the cost of Price was the entire future of the franchise, then the franchise wouldn’t be very good and acquiring Price right now wouldn’t be a good move. However, it’s not the entire franchise. Peterson very likely isn’t going anywhere so it’s going to cost Walker, an MLB ready SS, an MLB ready 2nd baseman and 3 more quality MiLB pieces. That should get Zobrist, too.

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

Man if the M’s pull off this trade they could be a dark horse for the world series. No team will want to face a rotation of Felix/Kuma/Price/Young/Paxton in the playoffs. All the M’s will have to do is scratch and claw a run or two.

GD
1 year 1 month ago

We also have Elias club controlled for the next 5.5 years!

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

Elias is on an innings limit. He wont start in the playoffs

Lefebvre Believer
1 year 1 month ago

Asking the Ms to scratch and claw a run or two is asking a lot.

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

HAHA. That is why we are asking and not expecting.

Steven Northrup
1 year 1 month ago

As long as they don’t trade Paxton or DJ I’m fine with them getting price and Zobrist. Walker and Franklin would be the center pieces going to Tampa along with 3 other solid prospects (Noriega and Taylor come to mind). And before Mariner fans say that is too much we could trade Price in the off season to recoup our losses.

agureghian
1 year 1 month ago

I think it’ll take much more than Walker, Franklin + lesser specs.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Wilson isn’t much of a lesser piece….

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

I think a package of: Walker, Franklin or Taylor, Wilson + either Sanchez or Pike can get it done. Trust me you don’t want Noriega he does not walk at all. I think this year is a fluke with how well he has been hitting.

Ryan Fawcett
1 year 1 month ago

Agreed, Paxton and Peterson are the only untouchables for me. Giving up Walker I can live with especially if we geta proven guy like Price in return. Guys like Franklin, Ackley, Smoak, Montero, Taylor and many others are guys that I’d take the risk in sending out to make a run this year and next.. Keep Paxton and Peterson though.

JohnDavidWSU
1 year 1 month ago

I agree completely. When healthy, I like what I’ve seen from Paxton far more than Walker to this point.

David King
1 year 1 month ago

As a M’s Fan the very most I trade is Walker, Elias, Franklin, Marlette and Medina/Pryor and could possibly throw in Jesus Montero or Erasimo Ramirez or I move on and Tampa can wait out for a better package

DickieThong
1 year 1 month ago

If Ruben Amaro Jr. was the Rays GM, I could see that happening.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

Instead, they deal with the extremely smart Rays FO.

Friar Tuck
1 year 1 month ago

Hearing the name Ruben Amaro Jr. reminds me of his track record….Wasn’t he a journeyman outfielder before he finally ended up on the Phils or was it the other way around…?

El Guapo
1 year 1 month ago

Price is not worth the overpay. He doesn’t want to play in Seattle and won’t re-sign here. Zobrist is fine. The second that Ken Rosenthal recommended the David Price to the Mariners trade a week or two, you knew the trade was a bad idea. Anything Rosenthal recommends, do the opposite.

The_Unnatural
1 year 1 month ago

I’m not sure I’d want another $25MM pitcher long-term anyway. I’d rather put that money towards plugging a couple holes in the offense.

John Evans
1 year 1 month ago

Ken Rosenthal seems to think he should be the Mariners’ GM. He’d be far worse at it than Bavasi.

Mike M
1 year 1 month ago

The Mariners haven’t been good in forever, if they have the chance to get Price and Zobrist then need to do whatever it takes. Its not like they have a Buxton or Kris Bryant. Everyone should be on the table.

mrnatewalter
mrnatewalter
1 year 1 month ago

My fear for the Mariners is that they are panicking. They want to win (everyone does)… so they run out and they give up everything to win. And here’s the thing… they’ll win for a couple of years. You have a few more years of solid production from Cano, but not 9… you’ll have 1.5 good years with Price before he keeps to his word about extending his contract. But what’s after that?

The Cubs, Astros, and Marlins could be some of the best teams in baseball in 3-4 years… and their GMs all know it. Everyone is giving them the best young talent in baseball for players who are definitely good, but now the Cubs have the best of the best when it comes to future players they can develop.

The Mariners have one of the best farm systems in baseball… wiping it out for David Price would be an absolutely foolish move.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

It is literally impossible for the Mariners to wipe out their farm for Price. They cannot trade Alex Jackson or Gareth Morgan. And they won’t trade all of Walker, Peterson, Paxton, Taylor, Franklin, Wilson, Sanchez, Pike, Diaz, Gohara, Missaki, Guerrero, O’Neill, Marlette, etc. In fact I’d be surprised (and disgusted) if a deal happened that had more than 3 of the guys listed above.

Quikmix
1 year 1 month ago

shouldn’t they be looking to trade for some additional offense?

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

That would be Zobrist.

David King
1 year 1 month ago

Zobrist isn’t a pitcher

stl_cards16
1 year 1 month ago

Adding wins is adding wins, doesn’t matter where it comes from. Zobrist and Price would give the M’s a great shot at the playoffs. That would be a scary rotation to be facing in a playoff series.

PittsburghPirates0022
1 year 1 month ago

Felix, Price, Iwakuma.

Nick Cannon
1 year 1 month ago

Sucks for Rays fans to lose either

MB923
1 year 1 month ago

Yep….all 8 of them

i'm me ..
1 year 1 month ago

the M’s are gonna pay. Sky Walker. Dj Paterson. Paxton. Brad Miller or Chris Taylor would be in talks with another such as Ketel Marte. – The M’s will be prospect broke.

Mike M
1 year 1 month ago

I particularly like how M’s fans are saying that back-end top 50 (or not even at all) prospects are untouchable for 1.5 years of David Price.

The_Unnatural
1 year 1 month ago

Bill Bavasi is fresh in their minds.

xthetouristx
1 year 1 month ago

I think it’s more like a top 10 guy (Walker) along with two or three guys who’ve been top 50 (Peterson, Franklin, Paxton). No one of those guys alone is untouchable for Price. Where Mariners fans are balking is when two or three of them are suggested for 1.5 years of Price. That’s 18 collective years of blue-chippers for 1.5 years of Price. It’s pretty easy math.

McNasty
1 year 1 month ago

I would hope they can keep Paxton. Quality cost controlled lefty. If they trade both Paxton and Walker, I would be pretty upset/disgusted.

TheRealRyan
1 year 1 month ago

If you look at past deals for top SP and it takes multiple blue chippers. Shields cost a top 5 and a top 75. Jimenez cost 2 top 50. Garza to the Cubs cost a top 30 and top 100. Garza to the Rangers cost a top 30 and one year removed top 25. Samardzija just took a top 5. Price is better than all of these other pitchers and will cost a lot.

Nozm
1 year 1 month ago

The advantages have to far outweigh the disadvantages. Surely Paxton and Walker would be pursued by Tampa.
I’m really not warm to the trade esp. in light of David Price’s comments during the offseason about not wanting to sign an extension with Seattle should he end up here.

LALSEADEN
1 year 1 month ago

This would make us the odds on favorite for the WC in my opinion. However, i would only like for them to do this if Price agrees to an extension prior to trade. And hope we don’t give up an entire truck load of prospects, other then the customary overpay. Go M’s!

RyanWKrol
1 year 1 month ago

They need more offense if they want to compete with the A’s and Angels. Both teams have struck big against league aces. Even though pitching rules the game in general, a dangerous offense is always the bigger potential threat.

DieHardMsFan
1 year 1 month ago

I disagree. What wins in the post season is pitching. We just had a three game series with the A’s where our pitching dominated that series. The Ms need a difference maker on offense and I just find any available hitters making a huge difference this year. They will just have to find hitting during the offseason. Besides zobrist will be a welcomedaddition to fill in for Ackley or Chavez

Danielle Rennifer
1 year 1 month ago

Mariners should also go after Chris Carter of the Astros or Justin Morneau of the Rockies as an inexpensive pickup that can propel the team at least to the ALCS.

Ashemnat99
1 year 1 month ago

Seems kind of silly to let guaranteeing Byrd’s option stand in the way as it’s a pretty easily reached option to begin with. Anyone trading for him would almost assuredly be paying that option. They had to know this going in.