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NL Notes: D’Backs, Marlins, Herrera, Tulowitzki

By Mark Polishuk and Jeff Todd | May 15, 2015 at 10:08pm CDT

None of the top candidates for the first overall pick in the upcoming amateur draft seem likely to command the $8.6MM+ bonus slotted for the #1 pick, MLB.com’s Jim Callis writes as part of a draft mailbag.  Callis notes that the Diamondbacks would likely save a couple of million on whomever they pick first overall, making the team’s explorations of taking a lesser-ranked prospect first to save even more bonus pool money seem rather needless.  “There’s no need to do a discount of $4 million or more, and it’s unlikely there will be enough quality players to spend that much extra money on in later rounds,” Callis writes.

Here’s more from the National League:

  • The Marlins’ decision not to pursue Rafael Soriano does not indicate that the team is not going to look to spur change in its pen, MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro writes. Nevertheless, the focus is now internal. A.J. Ramos is just beginning his audition in the closer’s role, and should get a fairly long look. Otherwise, righties David Phelps and Tom Koehler could be shifted to full-time bullpen roles. It makes sense for Miami to see how things look with in-house changes now, of course, to gather information before the summer trade market heats up.
  • Mets second baseman Dilson Herrera is headed to the DL with a broken middle finger on this throwing hand, Adam Rubin of ESPNNewYork.com reports (Twitter links). Third baseman and utilityman Eric Campbell will slide into the mix for the time being. It remains to be seen how long Herrera will be out, but his absence could impact the club in a multitude of ways. For one thing, it reduces (or even eliminates) the possibility that Herrera will seize the everyday job and render Daniel Murphy a trade piece — an admittedly somewhat unlikely scenario to begin with, especially given David Wright’s prolonged absence. Also of note: the decision to tab Campbell means that the team is not yet ready to bump Wilmer Flores off of shortstop, which was at least a theoretical alternative if Matt Reynolds had received the call. Unless and until Flores can curb his difficulties in the field, the position will remain an area of focus. As Andy Martino of the New York Daily News writes, the overall disposition in New York (particularly given the context of a five-game losing streak) is not terribly sunny at present.
  • The Rockies’ shortstop situation is also going to continue to get press, albeit for somewhat different reasons. Dave Cameron of Fangraphs takes a shot at valuing Troy Tulowitzki, opining that the excellent but oft-injured star would probably command something north of the Jacoby Ellsbury contract. That implies something like $50MM to $60MM in excess value in his contract, says Cameron, indicating that Tulo might bring back a package of very good prospects rather than one headlined by a super-premium young player. (Though, as Cameron notes, we should expect some mark-up for an in-season deal. Last year’s Jeff Samardzija–Addison Russell trade certainly illustrates that point.) The article suggests some possible groups of players that could theoretically be offered to Colorado.
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  1. Tommets

    10 years ago

    Cameron mentioned that the Mets would be the best fit. At this point I would begin considering giving up one of Syndergaard and Matz. He suggests both but I think it can be done with one along with other prospects.

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    • ezrider

      10 years ago

      And Troy is hurt as usual.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      Tulo’s hurt again. It’s very difficult to see the Mets being better with Tulo and without Matz/Syndergaard + one of Nimmo/Conforto + Rosario +. They’re a team with 12 guys on the DL out of their 25-man roster; that’s exactly the type of team that would be better served by 3 or 4 decent players instead of one superstar who plays just over half the games. The team was counting on Wright, too, and look at where he is and what the effect has been. Tulo’s the same story – great when healthy but not healthy often enough. It’s absolutely the wrong time for the Mets to put all their eggs in a basket about to break at any moment.

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    • calamityfrancis

      10 years ago

      One of those two pitchers could land a someone younger, far cheaper with upside. Mets can’t afford Tulo’s contract, nor do I think they want to trade for another aging, oft-injured past-his-prime star (see David Wright).

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      • David Coonce

        10 years ago

        Tulowitzki, I don’t believe, is past his prime. He almost certainly would have been the NL MVP last season had he not gotten injured. I do think he gets injured enough that it is a concern, although perhaps playing in a different environment might help him stay on the field more. Wright’s injuries seem to have sapped his power and defense, while Tulo’s just seem to keep him off the field. (I can’t explain his bad start to this season).

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  2. Grizzy

    10 years ago

    Success for the Mets was predicated on many gambles, most of which have not worked out in their favor.
    Practically every offensive player on the team has underperformed, regressed or gotten hurt. Their pitching staff has even been pedestrian of late.

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    • Vandals Took The Handles

      10 years ago

      The Mets are just beginning to come out of a rebuild, and are currently sitting in 1st place in their division. They have a slew of young players coming into the major leagues that will be going through an adjustment period – some of whom will fail, as happens in all rebuilds – some of whom will become important players to the team.

      Yet all I read for 2 years is that they have to trade a number of their good young players to get a veteran such as Tulowitzki whose salary is on an uptrend, and whose play is on a downtrend. Like that will make the Mets an immediate WS contender. Mets will stay the course, they want to compete for more then a year or two before they start another rebuild.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      That’s inherently inaccurate. Despite 12 guys on the DL from their 25 man roster, the Mets are still on pace for 85 wins. That’s not shabby at all. Any team is going to struggle offensively missing 2 of its top 3 best hitters.

      Reply
  3. willi

    10 years ago

    Mets have Built their team around Pitching Now and for the foreseeable future,they can in the short run get by with that but sooner or later it will catch up with team .

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    • Tommets

      10 years ago

      It already has. They’ve shown that a team with top pitching in the MLB (statistically), with sub-par offense doesn’t equal wins.

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      • rich 3

        10 years ago

        I would think they have shown the opposite, they are 20-16 with half of their team on the DL or having bad years.

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        • Tommets

          10 years ago

          The only two offensive pieces they are missing are Wright and d’Arnaud. Yes, will make this lineup better, however, I still think the need to add somebody. Also, this is the second bad year Grandy is having. Cuddyer, we can have another one coming up next year. They need another bat.

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      • Vandals Took The Handles

        10 years ago

        Does defense and base-running count?

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        • Tommets

          10 years ago

          Even if they play good defense they still lose games. There base-running has cost them a few games. But last night, among other nights they get 3 guys on base in 8 innings off of a guy coming in with an ERA over 7. That’s what has been happening. They’re getting shutout by not that good of pitching.

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        • MrBlue

          10 years ago

          The pump don’t work cuz the…..

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      • paqza

        10 years ago

        They’ve shown that a team missing its 2nd and 3rd best hitters is going to have a tough time scoring.

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    • paqza

      10 years ago

      I don’t think you’re understanding it correctly. The Mets’ problem is that 12 of their top 25 players are on the DL. When you’re missing your 2nd and 3rd best hitters, it’s obvious that the team’s offense is going to struggle.

      Reply
  4. Jaysfan1994 2

    10 years ago

    All these trade talks got Tulo’s hamstrings tight.

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  5. stymeedone

    10 years ago

    Seems like the Mets need a good defensive ss. I would think the Twins could spare Escobar, with Santana playing SS this year. He’s not an auto out with the bat either. That would be a lot cheaper than Tulo.

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  6. youngcy

    10 years ago

    I’m not taking that contract, and giving up Good Prospects.

    Reply
  7. Marc Seligman

    10 years ago

    Interesting when they talk of the value of players contracts. The Yanks overpaid Ellsbury so, that makes Tulo’s contract cheap? Each team is in a different situation and values contracts differently. If I’m the Mets, I just can’t trade young pitching for Tulo

    Flores – 6 homers, .749 OPS
    Tulo – 2 ho,ers, .740 OPS

    Please don’t tell me Tulo is a better fielder. He’s about to sit out a second straight game with an injury. Who knows how bad it is?Point is, his fielding doesn’t help when he’s on the DL

    My question for the Mets is, what are you going to do with Reynolds? He’s pretty much killing it in AAA, supposedly can field and we need 2nd baseman.

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