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Cardinals Sign Andrew Miller

By Steve Adams | December 21, 2018 at 10:50am CDT

10:50am: The Cardinals have officially announced the signing of Miller to a two-year contract with a vesting/club option for a third season.

10:41am: Rosenthal tweets that Miller will be guaranteed $25MM over the next two seasons with a $12MM vesting/club option for the 2021 campaign. Miller will be paid $11MM in 2019 and $11.5MM in 2020, and the option carries a $2.5MM buyout. He’ll receive a full no-trade clause as well — something Heyman suggested was a priority for the left-hander last week.

Per Rosenthal, the option will vest if Miller pitches a combined 110 games between the 2019-20 seasons. He can earn another $500K annually based on incentives.

Dec. 21, 10:34am: The Cardinals and Miller do indeed have an agreement, tweets Fancred’s Jon Heyman. Frank Cusumano of KSDK News in St. Louis tweets that it’s a two-year deal with a vesting option for a third season.

Dec. 20, 6:55pm: Yahoo’s Jeff Passan reports that the two sides are close to a multi-year deal (Twitter links). Miller, according to Passan, has received multiple two-year offers but has been seeking a three-year deal. It’s not yet clear whether the Cards went to three years or made a sizable increase to the value of a two-year offer. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that the Cardinals could announce a deal with Miller as soon as tomorrow.

6:49pm: The Cardinals are closing in on a contract with left-handed reliever Andrew Miller, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic (Twitter link). Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch had reported shortly beforehand that the Cards were still looking at Miller and Zach Britton, and that there could be some movement in the market before the holiday week (Twitter link). Miller is represented by Frontline’s Mark Rodgers.

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Miller, 34 in May, had a down season in 2018 as he missed brief stints due to hamstring and shoulder issues while also spending a more substantial period on the 60-day disabled list owing to a right knee injury. The result was a 4.24 ERA with somewhat diminished K/BB numbers in just 34 innings of work.

Of course, in the four preceding seasons, Miller was arguably the game’s best reliever, pitching to a ridiculous 1.72 ERA with averages of 14.5 strikeouts and 2.3 walks per nine innings pitched from 2014-17. With the exception of the 2017 season, he’s posted at least average ground-ball tendencies on an annual basis, and dating back to the 2013 season, the only pitchers in all of baseball with a better swinging-strike rate than Miller’s 15.7 percent are Aroldis Chapman, Craig Kimbrel and Kenley Jansen.

A healthy Miller would give the Cardinals the high-end left-handed presence they’ve been seeking at the back end of their bullpen in recent seasons. St. Louis’ four-year contract with fellow southpaw Brett Cecil has yet to pay dividends halfway through the life of that contract. Tyler Lyons, meanwhile, showed promise in 2017 but was cut loose this past summer after struggling badly early in the season. The Cards have been linked to both Miller and Britton on multiple occasions this offseason, and it’s long seemed that bolstering the relief corps (ideally with a southpaw) was high on the team’s wish list.

If and when the deal is completed, Miller will join a bullpen that was completely overhauled on the fly over the summer. Frustrated by his bullpen’s inconsistency, Cardinals president of baseball operations John Mozeliak released Greg Holland, outighted Lyons and traded Sam Tuivailala to the Mariners within a matter of days in late July. That shakeup, combined with some late-season promotions, gives the Cards a potential relief corps consisting of Jordan Hicks, Dakota Hudson, John Brebbia, Chasen Shreve, Luke Gregerson and Dominic Leone. Top prospect Alex Reyes and veteran Adam Wainwright, too, could both be options in manager Mike Shildt’s bullpen.

Both Gregerson and Leone were 2017-18 offseason additions but, like Cecil before them, underwhelmed in their initial run with the team. This’ll be the third consecutive offseason in which Mozeliak, GM Michael Girsch and the rest of the front office do some heavy lifting in the bullpen, with the organizational clearly hoping that the “third time’s charm” adage rings true.

The addition of Miller will mark another aggressive, high-profile signing for the Cardinals, who have already acquired Paul Goldschmidt from the D-backs in a trade that sent young MLB-ready assets to Arizona in the form of Carson Kelly and Luke Weaver. After three straight postseason misses, it’s no surprise to see Cardinals brass acting aggressively in an effort to surpass the NL Central champion Brewers and a perennially contending Cubs team. Cardinals fans have come to expect postseason-caliber rosters on an annual basis, and the three-year absence from October baseball is the organization’s longest “drought” since missing the playoffs each season from 1997-99. As such, it won’t be the least bit surprising if the Cardinals continue adding to what already looks to be a much-improved roster as the offseason progresses.

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  1. xabial

    6 years ago

    Long way up from Brett Cecil for Left handed Reliever.

    Reports of decline overstated. If he didnt give up 4 ER in 0.2 IP LAST game season, his ERA would be 3.26 instead 4.24

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    • MetsYankeesRedSox

      6 years ago

      Congrats on being first!

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      • Vedder80

        6 years ago

        The most annoying part of it is the 30+ comments in the threads that just talk about who posts first as opposed to anything substantive.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 years ago

          At least 32+…

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        • NotaGM

          6 years ago

          at least he provides baseball knowledge vs bs comments like this? dont be sour cause by posting to his comments your name still reaches at the top.

          dumba$$es that post here Jesus…

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        • thebeaver13

          6 years ago

          Amen

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      • YourDaddy

        6 years ago

        Congrats on being the annoying guy that always has to comment on him being first. Why does it bother you so much that he is first?

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      • socraticgadfly

        6 years ago

        Goold reports this morning that a third year is under discussion. Doesn’t mention whether that’s a guaranteed third, or some sort of option year. stltoday.com/sports/baseball/professional/birdland…

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Does this mean since discussions have heated up, they sent Girsch on a coffee run to Starbucks?

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        • Cardinals17

          6 years ago

          Without a Michael Girsch, none of this would be happening!!!

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          The coffee run or the Miller signing?

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    • xabial

      6 years ago

      instead of* 4.24.

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      • ortsacnilrats

        6 years ago

        I don’t have a dog in this fight but you do seem to make an effort to post first A LOT and it’s often riddled with typos. I think most of what you say is fine but take a second, gather your thoughts, then articulate. I’m pretty sure that would silence some/most of your haters.

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          100% my fault. Just remove the post lol

          Just wanna avoid the hate. love Miller, man. Sad someone else signed him

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        • ortsacnilrats

          6 years ago

          No worries. Was just trying to be constructive. No hate here.

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        • braves25

          6 years ago

          Avoid the hate and stop posting all together!

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        • Adam6710

          6 years ago

          Who cares if he’s obsessed with being first? Frankly, i think it’s more annoying that it bothers people.

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        • NotaGM

          6 years ago

          thank you for posting this….

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        • nwwh

          6 years ago

          Agreed.

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        • elscorchot

          6 years ago

          Probably meant progression.

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        • JKB 2

          6 years ago

          What is most annoying is the morons who congratulate him or comment on it. Not the post itself.

          xabial made a baseball post. Someone has to be first so what as long as it is relevant to the article.

          x did not say anything about being first this time.

          Its the others who start with the congrats crap that is annoying here

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    • jonsteele

      6 years ago

      I like Miller. I think all relief pitchers have a lot of risk. See:Cecil. But to compare the two isn’t fair. I think a lot of us still are shell shocked by it.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Still can’t believe how much Cecil signed for. He was very good with the Jays but boy did he cash in….

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        • hollidayfever

          6 years ago

          His 2017 was stealthily solid. He was worth 1.1 WAR with equally solid peripherals. He seemed to cram all his worst BABIP luck into the most high leverage innings that year. Makes a great pitch, broken bat single. It was weirdly skewed that way. Last year he was awful and didn’t look right. They’ve got some good looking depth behind him in Shreve and especially Genesis Cabrera. He’s got vintage Andrew Miller stuff from the scouting stuff I’ve read.

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        • jdgoat

          6 years ago

          That was exactly like his time in Toronto. I’ve never seen a pitcher give up more weak rbi singles where the batter gets fooled terribly but somehow hits the ball pretty much of the ground. He got a lot of hate in his last year before he left even though it was exactly how you described it. Cecil must’ve done something bad to tick off the baseball gods.

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        • greg1

          6 years ago

          Though I am a Cards fan, I live in Toronto, and I can tell you from seeing him enough, Cecil was not very good for the Jays either in his last two years.

          I was shocked and disappointed that the Cards signed him in general, and for the amount of money they did. He’s proven to be everything I saw him to be late in his Toronto days.

          With teams still clamouring for left handed relievers, wonder if the Cards could move Cecil for a mid-level prospect?

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        • Cardinals17

          6 years ago

          Man…. that would be fantastic if the Cardinals could move Cecil and get just anything back!!! Same with Fowler!!!!

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        • CardsNation5

          6 years ago

          He had a family tragedy that happened in Spring Training and was depressed most of the year. That’s why Cecil struggled.

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      • Cardinals17

        6 years ago

        I’m a little confused on this article. They way I read it, is that even if the Cards sign Miller as expected, that they are still in on Britton. Is that correct????

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        • seth3120

          6 years ago

          I didn’t read it that way. I did have to take a double take though

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        • Cardinals17

          6 years ago

          Thanks! I didn’t really think the Cardinals would hit the daily double on prime relievers.

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    • justreading

      6 years ago

      miler tobplay in sant lewis
      think im 100th post
      typed quick to get that in

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    • bradthebluefish

      6 years ago

      Well said

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    • possible donkey

      6 years ago

      Seriously. Do you just sit and wait for posts to happen. Then jump on them.

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  2. Annihilus

    6 years ago

    Loved him as a Yankee. But his best days seem to be behind him.

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    • brewcrew08

      6 years ago

      I agree. Basically 34 at the start of the season and injuries caught him last year. Not saying he won’t be good but I would assume the $ he will get will be too much for his 34-37 years.

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      • Vedder80

        6 years ago

        You are underestimating the value he should bring as a veteran presence to the young bullpen. Hers a guy who had closer stuff but didn’t demand to be the closer at any point in his career knowing the difference saves meant to his paychecks in the future.

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        • NotaGM

          6 years ago

          love your use of past tense here. Being a veteran has value yes but being paid as if you are 30 and after an injury plague season being 34yrs of age.

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      • Cardinals17

        6 years ago

        With his injuries of recent, I hope Miller’s contract doesn’t end up like Brett Cecil.

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    • xabial

      6 years ago

      Take away 4ER last game, ERA would 3.26, not 4.24.

      I honestly believe this is a steal. Congrats Cards fans

      It’s like you’re paying for 4.24 ERA, but getting a 3.26 ERA pitcher. That’s what it feels like, maybe I’m wrong

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      • RedSox4Life4ever

        6 years ago

        Can’t say it’s a steal or not. You can’t say that the Cards are paying for 4.24 ERA when no mention of how many years and how much money the Cards gave Miller at this time.

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          True, but everyone was down on Miller’s 2018

          His stats were down all over 2018, just giving reason(s) for optimism. I don’t think decline… IF he gets over the injury-bug. Big IF. I believe

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        • costergaard2

          6 years ago

          X, I also believe that Francona used him like a rented mule since he got him in ‘16. If Miller goes back to pitching just 7th, 8th, or 9th, he should be pretty lethal, especially in the NL…

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        • excusemeflo

          6 years ago

          If he stays healthy, I do think he can still be very dominant. On the other hand, I don’t see a move to the NL making much of a positive difference. Late relievers rarely pitch to pitchers, plus the offenses in the NL Central are way better than the AL Central.

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        • indiansfan44

          6 years ago

          To be fair to Francona he didn’t have much choice in the 2016 playoffs. Lose your 2-4 starters either right before or during the playoffs and you basically have no choice but to over use the pen. That said he continued to do it since it worked through 2017 and I think that was a huge factor in Miller’s injuries and Shaw and Allen’s decine last year.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          It was a steal. Miller just stole $25M from the Cardinals

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      • Mikel Grady

        6 years ago

        Take out all runs and it’s 0.00.

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        • c1234

          6 years ago

          He still has struck out stuff but he most likely won’t be a 1 ERA guy anymore

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        • Dad

          6 years ago

          Grady is on to something here

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      • dimitrios in la

        6 years ago

        X, if you take away previous, effective innings his ERA would seem to jump higher.

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          But they weren’t his last game of the season

          was so soooo close…

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        • dimitrios in la

          6 years ago

          Mmm ok.

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  3. chitown311

    6 years ago

    Wow. Cards going for it. Look out Brewers

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    • ncaachampillini

      6 years ago

      Those two teams yeah sure they’ll be in a dogfight for second that’s for sure. Who knows maybe everything will go wrong for the Cubs again and the Cards/Brewers can even have a shot at first you never know.

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      • andyb

        6 years ago

        Given the state of the cubs rotation, I’d hardly think everything would have to go wrong for them to lose the division. Cubs has lots of holes and weak spots with very little resources in prospects or cash to fix them.

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        • andyb

          6 years ago

          Who is going to take Yu Darvish’s contract? or heyward’s, chatwoods?
          Cubs are in a precarious spot, they have a thin aging pitching staff that’s highly paid and not much depth to back them up. Windows always close faster than you think they would. I wouldn’t be shocked to see the prognosis of the cubs look much bleaker after a few months of the season plays out.

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          Last year Yu signed a below market value contract. If he’s healthy he is a solid 2 or 3. Hayward hit .270 with gold glove defense and has improved every year with the cubs. Chatwoods probably a lost cause but has at least shown he can be effective in the past. Considering Bryant was hurt for most of the year and should have a ton of positive regression, the Cubs are in great position.

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        • kenly0

          6 years ago

          I don’t understand the hate for the Cubs staff. If I’m not mistaken. I believe their pitching has been at least top 5 in the league over the past few years if not even better. Hendricks is a career 3.00 era pitcher. And, over the next 2 seasons he’ll be pitching for a big contract. I expect a couple of great seasons from him. Then, there’s trusty ol Lester. He’s going to give you 30 competitive starts. Quintana needs to be more consistent. He looks unhittable at times. But, he’s also pitching for his next big payday. Wouldn’t surprise me if he has a great next 2 seasons. Same thing with Hamels. He’ll want to get one more decent contract. I can see him starting out on fire then being average as the season rolls on. But, ending the season with good overall results. Then, the wildcard is Darvish. I think he just needs to be healthy. If healthy he can give you 3.50 era. It wouldn’t surprise me if the Cubs have the best staff in baseball next year. Their biggest problem over the past 2 seasons has been their offense has gone cold for stretches. And, it seems like the whole team gets cold at the same time. I fully expect the Cubs to be the team to beat in the Central again. But, the Brewers aren’t a joke. If they can get the same type of production from their staff as last year. They’ll be right there with the Cubs. And, the the Cards getting a middle of the order bat in Goldy. They’ll have a say in the division, too. It’s going to be one heck of a fight between those 3 teams. Can Opening Day get here sooner? I’m ready for some baseball!!

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        • spudchukar

          6 years ago

          “positive regression?”

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          yes? if you don’t understand something you can use google so you don’t look silly.

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        • andyb

          6 years ago

          If Yu is healthy, is a big IF, and that contract may have looked below market before the season started, but it sure doesn’t today. Lester’s peripherals have gotten worse every year for the last 4 years. And while heyward did have a better year, he was still just a 2 war player. As a cardinals fan, I’m admittedly biased but I do not like your rotation, I’m not crazy about your bullpen, and I really don’t like your depth.

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          I can tell you’re blinded by your love of the cardinals bc none of that made sense. Yu is healthy and throwing the ball already. He had one of the lowest risk surgeries you can have as a pitcher. You must have been too lazy to look up the stats bc Lester was excellent last year and beat his career averages pretty much across the board. Heyward is not great or worth his contract, but is still a good player. He isnt killing the team by any stretch of the imagination. The rotation is still widely considered top 10 in baseball so I am guessing you might just be in denial. The bullpen had the 2nd lowest ERA in all of baseball as well so maybe you arent crazy about any bullpen.

          mlb.com/news/top-10-mlb-starting-rotations/c-30147…

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      • STLCards33

        6 years ago

        Lmao are you serious? Cubs will be lucky to finish in third

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      • KMFN

        6 years ago

        Cubs won 95 games last year without Bryant darvish and morrow they will be there

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        • hojostache

          6 years ago

          Not having Darvish play more last year helped their pitching stats because he was brutal. I know because I got stuck with him in my fantasy draft (auto-draft mistake). so I watched him suck for weeks and then go down for the rest of the season.

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          Thats what happens when you are injured and try to play through it. No reason he doesnt pick up where he left off as one of the highest K/9 pitchers in baseball

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      They better hope they are “going for it” in 2019, because after this season, Ozuna and Goldschmidt are FA, Molina is on his last leg, so is Waino, and Carpenter and Fowler are 33.

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      • baseballfan1971

        6 years ago

        I honestly think it’s a tossup for the NL Central this year, and no team should be ruled out. The Cubs could have one of the best staffs in the division with Lester, Hendricks, Quintana, Hamels and Darvish. Not sure about their bullpen, and that offense needs to improve in 2019. But I wouldn’t count them close to out of it. Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, Contreras, Schwarb, and on and on. This is a solid team, and I wouldn’t put it past Theo to make some shrewd moves to help right the ship.

        As for the Cardinals, I like the Goldschmidt and Miller moves, but I don’t think this puts them over the top by any means. Too many question marks and what ifs. The rotation is uncertain at this point, but they have a ton of arms to throw out there. Lots of potential. (CMart, Mikolas, Flaherty, Wacha and Gomber perhaps? Waino? Gant? Reyes? Hudson?). Yadi is Yadi. Goldy is Goldy. Carpenter at 3B doesn’t excite me a ton as his defense leaves something to be desired. DeJong is just 25 and should be solid at SS. Wong has a good glove, but do we really want his bat in the lineup every day? I’d almost rather see Gyorko there. Ozuna, Bader, Fowler in the outfield? O’Neill, JMart backups? Just so many what ifs. I like their chances, but a lot of things have to go right for them to have a shot.

        The Brewers won’t repeat last year’s success I don’t believe. Weak infield, I expect Aguilar regresses some, does Shaw play 2B? Who’s their rotation? Chacin was excellent last year but do we expect him to repeat that?

        Pirates and Reds could sneak in, too.

        Is it time for the season to start yet?!?!

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          I agree. And if anyone thinks it wont be a dog fight between 2 or 3 of these teams, they must be crazy. There is no way that we could crown any of them at this point.

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        • Lanidrac

          6 years ago

          The Cardinals’ rotation is a lot more certain than the Cubs’ or Brewers’. Martinez, Mikolas, Wacha, and Flaherty are easily the best 1-4 in the division and currently one of the best in all of MLB.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Wacha is coming off an injury and Martinez was used in the bullpen last year. That doesn’t look real certain to me.

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    • Cardinals17

      6 years ago

      It’s not just the Brewers. Look at what the rest of the NL Central are doing.

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  4. anthony c

    6 years ago

    Cardinals aint playing around getting the best arm on the market

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    • Codeeg

      6 years ago

      They’re getting Ottavino?

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      • mga2q7

        6 years ago

        looks like you pushed the right button! The salty Card fans don’t like the truth

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    • andyb

      6 years ago

      I think Britton was seen as the better lefty

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      • hojostache

        6 years ago

        How….? Britton’s numbers when he came back weren’t earth shattering, his velocity was down, and he didn’t have as much sink on his sinker as prior to injury….so besides all of those reasons…sure, maybe he will magically bounce back and be dominant again in 2019.

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  5. fmj

    6 years ago

    I’ll take it

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  6. Piro

    6 years ago

    Nooooo!!!

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  7. Cubbie75

    6 years ago

    Oh crap

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  8. bellibombs

    6 years ago

    For what tho? 3 yrs 35 mil?

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    • kiddhoff

      6 years ago

      I’ll guess 3/$26mil

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      • mga2q7

        6 years ago

        Not a chance

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    • What

      6 years ago

      I guess 3/36. Flat 12 across the deal.

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      • JFactor

        6 years ago

        I’m guessing it’s a 2 year with a 3rd year vesting option that’s fairly obtainable so he could get his third year

        Probably 9-12M AAV range

        So as low as 2/18 with third vesting option at like 35 innings in 2020 for 3/27

        Or as high as 2/24 with third year option for 3/36

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          No way it’s 18. Guys like soria sign for 2/15.A guy like miller at minimum got a 2/24 with a probably fairly substantial buyout on a 3rd year option.

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  9. walls17

    6 years ago

    My mommas favorite player. Now I gotta get her a Miller Cardinals shersey

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    • CobiEven

      6 years ago

      Story?

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      • walls17

        6 years ago

        She found him very attractive when he was on the yankees and has loved him ever since

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    • Lanidrac

      6 years ago

      If Miller keeps the #48 he’s had with three other teams (the #24 he had with the Indians is retired by the Cardinals), you could grab a Shelby Miller jersey for cheap and just figure out how to modify the zero in 40 to an eight.

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      • fmj

        6 years ago

        now this guy is thinking ahead lol

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        Bader wears #48. Will need to pay him off to get that # now that Bader has been proclaimed as the next Willie McGee by Cards fan, media and the front office.

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        • nmahan1984

          6 years ago

          Show me your sources?

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Just listen to the local sports barf radio. Bader walks on water, and his hair is so cool. And he dresses cool too. And nobody is faster or has a better glove than him either.

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        • costas4commish

          6 years ago

          No one (on our team) is faster, but I still think he’s too heavy to tread water. No one (on our team) has a better glove than him, in the outfield.
          I think he looks dang good in Cardinal Red, with the Birds on the Bat.
          His hair IS so cool.
          I think someone’s jealous.

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  10. Piro

    6 years ago

    It’s been a busy day. What’s next? Machado signs with the Yankees.

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  11. cubsfan2489

    6 years ago

    Because ERA is everything now a days big wonder. Go Yankees.

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    • cubsfan2489

      6 years ago

      Boy wonder*. #Yankees

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  12. batty

    6 years ago

    I was hoping for Britton, but Miller is a big step up from Cecil.

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    • costas4commish

      6 years ago

      Me too. They probably met with him first, but Girsch messed up by getting Zach a whole milk latte instead of a non-fat macchiato with extra drizzle. Rookie mistake.

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  13. gashousegang

    6 years ago

    YES!

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  14. Yankeepatriot

    6 years ago

    He is one of my all time favorite Yankee relievers and I hope he works out great in st Luis (except against us in a potential World Series of course lol). Sadly if the last two years have shown his arm is a timebomb. Hope I’m wrong 🙁

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  15. troll

    6 years ago

    did the cardinals get a full bodied miller, or just a miller lite?

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    • ThatBallwasBryzzoed

      6 years ago

      They got Miller high life

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      • Mikel Grady

        6 years ago

        For playoffs it will be miller genuine drought

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    • KnicksFanCavsFan

      6 years ago

      Score.

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    • Lanidrac

      6 years ago

      I wonder how he’ll pitch when on the road against the Brewers at Miller Park.

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    • ken48tribe

      6 years ago

      Either way, it’s Miller Time in St. Louis! Sorry to see him leave CLE but best of luck to him in STL.

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  16. ThatBallwasBryzzoed

    6 years ago

    I was hoping the Cubs would have signed him. Hopefully they add 2 more bullpen arms. They need to trade kinzler because hes trash.

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    • Bocephus

      6 years ago

      -$$$

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      • ThatBallwasBryzzoed

        6 years ago

        Yeah they have plenty of money. If they really wanted to they could get both Harper and Machado and then extend Rizzo and Bryant.

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        • Vanilla Good

          6 years ago

          Oh but they don’t want to so…

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        • themed

          6 years ago

          No they do not have plenty of money as many sources have reported as such this winter. Face it. The cubs are done. Things are getting back to normal.

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    • ncaachampillini

      6 years ago

      Yeah I woulda liked that too. Oh well.

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    • simschifan

      6 years ago

      I hate to tell you this guy, but I don’t think they are signing anyone else unfortunately. This sucks for them ugh

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      • ThatBallwasBryzzoed

        6 years ago

        Why not? They still need a veteran catcher and a backup option for morrow. Who they dropped the ball on. He was a waste of money. They need to trade kinzler for salary relief then sign ottavino he would be a great pick up. Kinzler was terrible for the Cubs the month and a half they had him. He was a cancer in the Nats locker room. He was the sole reason why the Cubs didnt win the NL central this year. The offense went ice cold too but the bullpen didnt do their job and hold down the fort. Its pathetic how they had a 5 game lead on Sept 5th and lost by one game.

        It didnt help to have played 25 games in 24 days. 1 day off the entire month of September. Making up a meaningless game vs rhe nats throwing Jamie Garcia out there for 1/3 of an inning vs Scherzer.

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      • themed

        6 years ago

        This is fantastic signing and unlike the cubs have plenty of money. Cards just getting started!

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          Lol the cardinals and spending money. You don’t see that too often. I’ll believe it when I see it. My guess is they are going to hoard it and try to extend Goldy

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          They always spend money, but they just spend it on quantity instead of quality..

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  17. ZGDC

    6 years ago

    Hot stove heating up! Three signings in last few hours.

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    • clrrogers 2

      6 years ago

      And none of them by the Blue Jays. 🙁

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      • BlueJayFan1515

        6 years ago

        No other signings by the Jays for a while, either. At least not exciting ones. Buckle in, it’ll be a rough year, probably the year after too..

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  18. ChiSoxCity

    6 years ago

    Cardinals tightening the noose around the Cubs. If that roster continues to decline, Maddon will be out shortly after the break. Then the complete collapse begins.

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    • cubsfan2489

      6 years ago

      That’ll happen when X is banned from mlbtr

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    • simschifan

      6 years ago

      The way this winter has started it may be a 2 team race in the Central. And Cubs may not have enough. I hope I’m wrong.

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    • Mikel Grady

      6 years ago

      Yes because no cardinal player will decline this year smh

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        Baseball Reference is predicting Goldschmidt to regress below .900 OPS this year, to .884. His career OPS is .930. I’m sure this is due to going from a hitter’s park to a pitcher’s park.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        6 years ago

        Of you’re a Cubs fan, you should be concerned. None of the major FAs Epstein added have contributed in any meaningful way. This fact has made their front office gun shy and conservative, which means they’re committed to the current roster as constructed. It’ll be a bonza charge to the finish for Epstein and his staff. If his “guys” don’t step up early next season, the Cubs will be forced to press the reset button. Maddon will be fired, only to re-emerge phoenix-like with a Cubs rival. If this happens as I believe it will, the future belongs to the White Sox. They’ll come close in 2020, maybe a WS appearance. 2021 thru 2023 will involve a championship.

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        • andymeyer

          6 years ago

          Looking forward to seeing Eloy Jimenez. Kid looks like a machine. Sad to see Kopech go under the knife (almost certain with young flamethrowers). But he has legit talent. The Pale Hoes are not far off. Their farm is stacked

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          Uh, it’s Hose, not “Hoes”.

          Eloy is an immense talent, but I see one of the more low key prospects emerging as the heart/soul of the team. Madrigal?

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Unless you’re Carlos Martinez, then it’s hoes.

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  19. tomselleck

    6 years ago

    Son of a…..

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  20. YankeesWarriorsPatriots

    6 years ago

    i would probably be first to comment on every post if I didn’t have a life

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    • xabial

      6 years ago

      Judging by your name and avatar, this is a troll account.

      You don’t have a life, by default.

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      • YankeesWarriorsPatriots

        6 years ago

        Ouch so mean! Reported

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        • YankeesWarriorsPatriots

          6 years ago

          Seeing your name isn’t capitalized, I would assume you’re the troll account of Xabial 😉

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  21. terror661

    6 years ago

    Whatever…

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  22. c1234

    6 years ago

    So glad my Cardinals are making moves!

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    • rocknwell

      6 years ago

      Indeed!

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      Girsch has been making moves on Mo for years.

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  23. jay47

    6 years ago

    3 years 30 million. just a guess.

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    • Payne Train

      6 years ago

      3 for 30 would be fair to both parties .

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      • cards81

        6 years ago

        I disagree paynetrain

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        • Payne Train

          6 years ago

          Cards 81, I like you

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  24. mattcubs

    6 years ago

    As a Cubs fan, this hurts a bit. Cardinals should be damn good. I’m doubtful that the Brewers rotation is up to the task again this year. Many doubts about the Cubs as well. Should be a good 3-way race.

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  25. themed

    6 years ago

    WhooHooo it’s Miller Time! Yes Yes Yes!

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      Miller playing in Busch Stadium.

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  26. Jacob1982

    6 years ago

    I’m feeling pretty good about the upcoming season. Hopefully, everyone can stay healthy. If they do, it should be fun to watch.

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  27. rocknwell

    6 years ago

    All Cards fans should be happy about this, at least cautiously. After last season’s “major” RP signing and the other busts, I think we all feel a little reserved about our optimism when it comes to relief pitching. But, if Miller can regain his dominance, the Cards should have a playoff run!

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    • Jacob1982

      6 years ago

      I agree. Health for our starters will be big this year. Relief pitching is always a gamble. But, this seems to be a good pick. Our lineup with good pitching will definitely be dangerous against anybody.

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  28. daved

    6 years ago

    THE ACCOUNTANT, Dorkzeliak, is always about 2 years late in signing guys. Miller is a shell of himself now.

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    • Jacob1982

      6 years ago

      Perhaps…but, I looked at his stats. And before injuries last year, he was one of the best. And he is left-handed. So, I’m hopeful at least.

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      • mrnatewalter

        6 years ago

        The velocity is also down two full miles per hour from two years ago. And Miller isn’t exactly an elite control pitcher, so that’s gonna hurt him in several ways.

        Frankly, I think this is a mistake.

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  29. its_happening

    6 years ago

    Cards strategy; get lethal lefty bullpen arms for the NL Central lefty sticks. Rizzo, Votto, Yelich, Schwarber, Heyward, on and on and on. Well done.

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    • Vanilla Good

      6 years ago

      Doesn’t Yelich destroy lefties?

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      • champion

        6 years ago

        He did hit a few point higher vs lefties than righties in 2018

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Play the odds. Cecil and Miller will face Yelich if he’s batting in the 7th or 8th. Otherwise the media will ask this question, and it will be the first one asked in the post game presser:

        “Why did you choose not to bring in Miller or Cecil to face Yelich?”

        I think you get the picture.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          How many lefties in the pen will STL have? Miller, Cecil, Shreve, Gomber. Why in the world would they keep Cecil? Cut bait on that dead weight.

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    • hollidayfever

      6 years ago

      You know good and well Heyward doesn’t belong in that same sentence in reference to him being any kind of offensive force anymore.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Skippers will bring in a lefty to destroy Heyward and play the percentages.

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  30. daved

    6 years ago

    Most 37 year old pitchers who had 3 arm surgeries in 5 years usually bounce back well.

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  31. Jacob1982

    6 years ago

    Cecil definitely wasn’t cutting it.

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  32. matt_barkley

    6 years ago

    All of these new 1 inning relief pitchers are ruining the game. Anyone remember when pitchers would throw complete games?

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      Yes I do. I was drinking Ballantine beer and smoking Lucky Strike cigarettes while listening to the games on my portable radio.

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      • HANS_BOOBIE

        6 years ago

        Bad ass

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    • themed

      6 years ago

      Miller is not one of those one inning guys. He can go multiple innings and be very effective.

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    • rocknwell

      6 years ago

      I remember watching some AL games where the SP allowed 4-6 runs and was still pitching in the 6th or 7th innings. So I at least remember watching games where the SP went longer despite the runs allowed. Now if you so much as hiccup, they pull you out.

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  33. HANS_BOOBIE

    6 years ago

    So I guess this rules out a trade for will Smith .

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    • ChrisEnvy76

      6 years ago

      That’s okay, he hasn’t been good since Men In Black.

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    • JFactor

      6 years ago

      While I think it’s unlikely, I do believe they will still want to add another reliever at some point this off-season. But according to that other report, the Giants are waiting for Britton and Miller to sign first, and my guess is the Cards didn’t want to see themselves missing out on both and being forced to pay too much for Smith or Watson.

      I figure the Cards will still land a backup catcher and another reliever of some sort (even if it’s not a big name), and outside shot they try to get a left handed hitter somewhere on their bench somehow (maybe an outfielder on a one year deal that can protect Fowler and Bader and gain one more year of O’Neill service time, I think May 2nd they gain it).

      They do have a full 40 man at this moment

      So, sign Miller and DFA one of Webb, Meisinger, or Mayer’s (unless one can be traded for one of these other needs in time)
      Find a backup catcher, and DFA or trade…I’m not sure, maybe Garcia?
      Find a left handed hitting bench bat, ideally someone that could play center on occasion
      Find an additional reliever in a subsequent move, or prepare for Hudson/Reyes/Helsley to start stealing jobs

      So, long story short, I don’t think they are done looking at Smith, but no longer feel the need to meet the asking price the Giants has

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  34. Matthew De Lorge

    6 years ago

    For a guy who is aging and has had recurring knee and arm issues, this is a potentially risky signing for a team who can’t afford the pitfalls of a risky signing.

    Best of luck, I liked Miller in his time with the Yankees.

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  35. mrnatewalter

    6 years ago

    The Cardinals are gonna end up paying Miller close to 10M a year during his decline, when they could have had Will Smith (who was objectively better) for spare parts.

    Too bad for them.

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    • baseballpun

      6 years ago

      Why can’t they still get Smith?

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      • mrnatewalter

        6 years ago

        I mean, they still can. I just doubt they will.

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        • birdsonbat

          6 years ago

          And who would you propose cards trade for 1 year of will smith?

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          I thought Will Smith was going to cost more than both O’Neill and J. Martinez?

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        • mrnatewalter

          6 years ago

          Clearly, Mozeliak thinks paying an aging and declining reliever 10M+ a year is more important than giving up spare a outfielder for a top 10 reliever costing less than 5M.

          The guy hasn’t exactly nailed it on free agents as of late.

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        • birdsonbat

          6 years ago

          I’d give em jmart, O’Neill worth way more. Not sure who you were referring to as spare OF

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          O’Neill is not seen as a spare part in St. Louis and that’s the entire point. That’s who takes over left field when Ozuna leaves on free agency next year

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          He sees O’neill as a spare part and doesn’t get why the Cardinals would see him for Smith as a severe overpay

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        • birdsonbat

          6 years ago

          Yeah he just also happens to be current/former top 50s prospect who had a nearly 1.100 ops last year at AAA, with 6 years or whatever of control, and as you mentioned possible LF next year.

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        • mrnatewalter

          6 years ago

          How is that an overpay?

          The Cardinals are going to spend 2-3 times more money on a worse and older reliever.

          Will Smith was a top 10 RP last year. He’s arguably better than any RP on the free agent market, and won’t even make 5M next year.

          That’s insane value. O’Neill is another run-of-the-mill OF with control. He’s good, but Cardinals fans act like he’s the next HOF outfielder for them.

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        • mrnatewalter

          6 years ago

          Who on God’s green earth wants Jose Martinez? He can’t play anywhere. He’s a designated hitter.

          I doubt they land someone as good as Will Smith for him, even on a rental.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Again, O’Neill very well may not be a run-of-the-mill outfielder. His ceiling is massive, his skill set doesn’t just grow on trees. He may not hit his ceiling if he can’t overcome his plate discipline issue, but his potential makes him a lot more valuable than one year of Will Smith. You are undervaluing what O’Neill could become, no matter what he is now. The risk of him busting is well worth the value he could bring.

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  36. anthonyd4412

    6 years ago

    Nice signing. Really wanted him on the Cubs but they’re going cheap this year

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  37. troll

    6 years ago

    cardinals still need an ace

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    • hollidayfever

      6 years ago

      They’ve got 4 potential 3+ WAR starters locked into the top 4 spots in the rotation and plenty of average or better depth behind that, not to mention wild card high upside options like Reyes and Helsley. Very few, if any, teams can boast that kind of a rotation mix. Shoring up the bullpen is much better on a short term bet like this.

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      • JFactor

        6 years ago

        What this guy said

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    • CuddyFox

      6 years ago

      I guess you think Mikolas is not ace material.

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      • troll

        6 years ago

        one good year doesn’t make you an ace

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        Mikolas is NOT even close to ACE material. He came into the league from the Japan League and he had a huge advantage over the hitters. Nobody saw him. I fully expect Mikolas to regress closer to his norm, which will be a near 4.00 ERA guy and 5 inning guy.

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          Huge advantage? He gave up a metric ton of hits, but he kept the walks down. Good control kept the ball from flying too far.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          “His norm.” Lol. He’s been back pitching in the US for one year, so the numbers last year ARE his norm until he pitches here longer and you can establish a yearly average. You can’t just throw out arbitrary numbers and say he’s going to regress because that’s what he normally does when the ONLY thing he’s done since being back is last years numbers.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Stan Lee the SheepleManly, I guess you missed the Mikolas years, 2012-2014?

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          That’s why I said that he’s BACK in the US. He’s not at all the same pitcher that he was four years ago, which is incredibly obvious when you look at the numbers, his mechanics, and his results. You can cherry pick those stats all you want, but they aren’t applicable to the pitcher that is here now. He’s a different pitcher since learning how to pitch over there, so saying that he’s going to regress to what he was in 2014 is absurd.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Cherry picking? You’re using 1 year’s worth of stats in the majors. You ever notice how Japanese Pitchers that come over here don’t have nearly the numbers that they did overseas? I’m going off years worth of stats from guys from Nomo to Tanaka over the last 20 years. Mikolas will regress. It’s as a sure thing as Carpenter only being able to hit leadoff.

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        • live42day

          6 years ago

          @Stan lee- I have read enough threads to know that “Daved” is not worth your time.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Yeah, factual information pisses off sheeple Cards fans.

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  38. ChiSoxCity

    6 years ago

    The Cardinals command a ton of respect, snd here’s why: they rely on solid fundamentals, not talent. They stay in their lane in terms of spending. And they’re timeless, meaning they’re not susceptible to trends. If the Cubs are smart, they’ll assett themselves as the bigger market, with better scouting and resources. If they back down from this direct challenge, it’s going to be a long time before they’re in the driver seat again for the NL Central. The Cubs need to focus on maintaining the talent advantage, because nobody does fundamentals better than the Cardinals, historically.

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    • JKB 2

      6 years ago

      But the 2018 Cardinals were not good fundamentally

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      • ChiSoxCity

        6 years ago

        I did say historically, yes?

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      The Cards stay in their lane alright. That lane labeled “golf in October.”

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      • BirdsontheBatAZ

        6 years ago

        Daved, just curious what you would deem a successful offseason? That is, what would you do if your were GM?

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Sign Harper. Have him bat 3rd with Goldy 2nd. Then they have a balanced lineup of Carp, Goldy, Harper, Ozuna, Dejong, Wong, Bader, Molina. Sign Keuchel. Move Carlos to closer. Hicks 8th. If you need a lefty reliever, make a trade.

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        • BirdsontheBatAZ

          6 years ago

          I am guessing you will deny it now that we are able to look in the rear view mirror, but I have a hunch you were one of the people upset at Mo for not throwing more money at Heyward and Price to get them. And I’m guessing you would now also be complaining about the Cards inactivity due to being hamstrung by said contracts.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Nope. The Cards got lucky by losing Pujols, Price and Heyward.

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  39. stan lee the manly

    6 years ago

    This offseason has left me very excited for the season to start, the Cardinals are finally going to have a strong team to challenge the division. Go Cards!

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  40. junkmale

    6 years ago

    So many people down on Miller but think Eovaldi is about to become a breakout star. Baseball fans are odd.

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    • mrnatewalter

      6 years ago

      Eovaldi is 4 years younger and just had a career year. I don’t know if I believe that Eovaldi is a “breakout star”, but I can see the justification.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        6 years ago

        Miller was over utilized in Cleveland. Used properly, he’s a force of nature.

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      • hollidayfever

        6 years ago

        He’s had 3 TJS. That’s like 300 in baseball years.

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  41. Jacob1982

    6 years ago

    Off topic…but here is my lineup:
    Carpenter
    Bader
    Goldy
    Ozuna
    Dejong
    Molina
    Fowler
    Wong
    Pitcher

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      2-6 all RH bats. That’s not ideal.

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      • Jacob1982

        6 years ago

        I thought of that after I posted it. Was thinking more about production. Handedness doesn’t matter to me as much as some. If you can hit, you can hit. But, I could try a more balanced mix for kicks.
        Carp
        Bader
        Goldy
        ozuna
        Fowler
        Dejong
        Molina
        Wong
        Pitcher
        Just seems a little high for Fowler…until he proves himself a little more

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      • Jacob1982

        6 years ago

        I thought of that after I posted it. Was thinking more about production. Handedness doesn’t matter to me as much as some. If you can hit, you can hit. But, I could try a more balanced mix for kicks.
        Carp
        Bader
        Goldy
        ozuna
        Fowler
        Dejong
        Molina
        Wong
        Pitcher
        Sorry if this posted twice

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          Bader doesn’t hit enough to be any higher than 7th imo

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          I see your point there. It’s just hard not to put him near the top with his speed. And hopefully in his first full season he will be able to get on base a little more and surprise us. He puts a lot of pressure on defense when he makes contact or walks. I will be rooting for bader big time this year.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Would be nice if Carp could slide down to two and Bader could lead off, but there’s no way Schildt should mess with that. No one can explain it, but he’s a completely different hitter at lead off and they need that.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          I agree…that would be nice. But, for whatever reason carp hits best at leadoff. It would be fun to see Carpenter get a walk…then have bader hit a triple! Bet he would be close to catching him on the bases. Lol

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Wong has speed too, but he’s not batting anywhere but 7th or 8th, because he tries to hit like Ruth instead of Lofton.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          Yeah, if he would become more of an all fields slap hitter, I’d think about moving him up. But, I just haven’t seen it yet.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          The reason Carpenter doesn’t bat well other than leadoff is because he’s a selfish player and refuses to bat anywhere BUT leadoff. And when he was moved down, he sulked and complained. It’s not hard to figure out.

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          I’d like to see pitcher hitting 8th and Bader or Wong 9th. A lot of RBI potential for Carp. Of course, he’s going to have to bring his opposite field hitting ability, which has largely disappeared in recent years.

          If Dex can bounce back, he’s our #2. If not, then JMart.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          That could be true. Regardless, I’m an “if it isn’t broke don’t fix it” kinda guy. And he has been one of the top leadoff guys in the game….without the steals of course. But, he does ok up there.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Jose Martinez likely won’t be on the team. I’m fairly confident they will find an AL team to take him by the time ST comes around. They can’t keep him, Fowler and O’Neill on the 25 man roster. They are NOT going to send O’Neill back to Memphis.

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          Absolutely. Not sure what his deal is, but only one thing has worked for him.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          I would love to see Fowler bounce back….if he does…yes, he is my #2 also…I don’t have a problem batting pitcher 8th either. If you have 4 guys that have leadoff potential… I’d put one of them 9th

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          JMart is worth 10x more to the Cardinals than any other organization.

          If Ozuna and Goldy leave, it would be nice to have another hitter in the lineup to replace them should we fail to replace them.

          Can’t just give up a .300 hitter for peanuts. Gyorko is a player that is definitely expendable.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Daved, your statement about Carpenter refusing to bat elsewhere in the lineup is flat out not true. He has been willing to bat second and third in quite a bit of Matheny’s past lineups, he’s logged a very good size of at bats in other spots because he, surprise surprise, was willing to bat somewhere else. Every time Matheny tried to move him, the results were not good, so he has been moved back to lead off, where he has thrived.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Jacob1982, I think their right fielder should be batting second, no matter which of the three it is playing. If Fowler can rebound, then that’s a good piece to have near the top. Otherwise, you’ve got a 300 hitter in Martinez or an unproven but power/speed combo in O’Neill. All depends on how both Fowler and O.Neill look at the plate coming out of Spring Training and into the first month of the season, as sell as if Martinez gets moved.

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          your 2 and 3 hitters strike out more than 25% of the time. I don’t think they would stick Bader up there.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          Yeah…I’m ok with O’Neil, Fowler, or Martinez batting second. Whoever can get on base in front of the big boys is who I want at the top. I love lineup talk! I’m ready for baseball…and fishing.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Throw both my way and I’m a happy guy! Should be a fun year to be a Cardinals fan, that’s for sure.

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        • mga2q7

          6 years ago

          Fowler was such a good lead off for the Cubs, maybe he will regain his form. I cant wait for some baseball

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          So if an AL team gave Martinez 550 at bats in the DH role, that would be less valuable than the Cards giving him 150-200? Where does he get at bats? 1B? NOPE. RF? Not unless O’Neill goes to Memphis and he platoons with Fowler. LF? Nope, not unless Ozuna gets hurt.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Because he hated hitting in the 2 or 3 spot, so he tanked in order to go back to leadoff. Like I said, not hard to figure out.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Ya, because Carpenters problem is his lack of effort. The guy who has been shut down by the medical staff multiple times for working to hard and getting fatigued (insert eye roll emoji)

          Reply
        • daved

          6 years ago

          What the hell does his fatigue or work ethic have to do with not wanting to bat 2nd or 3rd? It’s a mental thing. Once you decide you don’t want to do something, the harder it is to put your mind and body to it. I’ll say this until the guy retires, because he will never admit it. He only wants to bat leadoff. He can still show up to the park, prepare and work. However, once he gets in that batter’s box, if his mind isn’t into it, he will fail. This is nothing more than a mental block.. It’s nothing physical whatsoever.

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        • nmahan1984

          6 years ago

          Its hopeless, save your typing fingers…

          Reply
    • JFactor

      6 years ago

      Mine is

      1. Carpenter
      2. Fowler
      3. Ozuna
      4. Goldschmidt
      5. Molina
      6. DeJong
      7. Wong
      8. Pitcher
      9. Bader

      If Bader can post a .360 obp, then he moves up to leadoff, Wong to 9.

      If Fowler regresses, he goes to 7, Wong would join the front 6, not sure where yet.

      But for the most part, that would be the od lineup.

      Martinez first pinch hitter off the bench every game.

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        Nobody is batting leadoff but Carpenter.

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  42. dematteo1982

    6 years ago

    Was kinda hoping the Mets would sign him. They need a lefty in the ‘ pen.. plus the Callaway/Eiland connection I feel would have brought the best out of him. But good move by StL. Kinda depends on the contract. I was seeing a 2yr/$19.5mil…so I’m curious to see what he actually gets.
    Now…Britton is the best remaining lefty…but wants to close and can’t do that in Queens. Tony Sipp, Ollie Perez, Justin Wilson Or Jerry Blevins remain. But they have options. They could just get Robertson or Allen, fill the LOOGY from within….or…my favorite option…acquire another quality SP and slide that albatross Vargas to the Bullpen. Which starter? Well…i’d make a trade…
    Mets trade:
    Steven Matz, Andres Gimenez, Anthony Kay,Desmond Lindsay and Gavin Cecchini
    Indians trade:
    Corey Kluber, Nolan Jones and Austen Wade
    Then sign Gio Gonzalez 1yr/$13mil
    1) deGrom
    2) Syndergaard
    3) Kluber
    4) Wheeler
    5) Gonzalez
    Very Solid IMO
    Or they can just open the damn Wilpons wallet and sign Kuechel to a creative 5yr contract with opt outs from the 2020 season on and move Vargas to the pen. deGrom, Thor, Kuechel, Wheeler, Matz
    Those 2 rotation options would make them the best in the League

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    • Jbigz12

      6 years ago

      Buddy if you’re getiting Kluber it’s hurting way worse.’you’re waving goodbye to Nimmo, and Gimenez to even start the conversation. Your 2nd piece certainly wouldn’t be Steven Matz.

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  43. wrigleywannabe

    6 years ago

    Fowler, Gregerson and Holland weren’t enough?

    The Cards turn everyone into misfit toys.

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    • STLBaseballFanSince2020

      6 years ago

      This is what fear looks like.

      Reply
      • Android Dawesome

        6 years ago

        I know you probably just wanted to post your bumper sticker comment anywhere but… is the commenter wrong? I mean, other than Mikolas the past free agent signings from the Cards haven’t exactly been a windfall…

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        • STLBaseballFanSince2020

          6 years ago

          Yes, he is wrong about the Cardinals turning “everyone into misfit toys”

          Did I say something wrong? Is it safe to assume that Wrigley is a Cub fan????

          No surprise that you’re a Cub fan too.

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  44. Philliesfan4life

    6 years ago

    Come on Phillies , are you gonna spend that stupid money.

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  45. bb15020

    6 years ago

    Playing in the “established reliever” market is a fool’s errand. I expect more out of Mo and the front office. These funds should have been used on going all in on Harper and making a big push for 2019.

    Now it looks like they are going to follow this bad move with another, trying to sign Goldschimdt long term and pay for his 30s

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    • Wainofan

      6 years ago

      It’s a fools errand to expect much more out of Mo and the cards. Been watching them for almost 40 years and they almost never sign the biggest names. Not their style. They don’t operate like the Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox. They never have even with different owners/GM’s. Yet In that same time period, they have been to same World Series as Yankees with no other team matching that. Granted Yankees won 5 and we only won 3. And during that 40 year span they never tanked, not once.

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        How many people care about what a team did 40 years ago? I can’t stand that argument about the success of a team. All that matters is what have you done the last few years and where are you heading the next few years? 2019 is a huge year for the team. If they fail to make the playoffs again, there could be major overhaul here.

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    • mga2q7

      6 years ago

      boy I hope they can do it! I had my fingers crossed when they wanted to lock up Pujols long term. Of course I don’t think anyone actually knows how old he actually is yet.

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  46. al080991

    6 years ago

    All the way back too high school summer ball for Miller and Shildt. Good too get these guys back together

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  47. tiredolddude

    6 years ago

    Have to hand it to the Cardinals. They’re sure upgrading. I’m sure they’re not done yet

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      They’re definitely getting older.

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      • stan lee the manly

        6 years ago

        Easy to do when the majority of your pitching staff is rookies

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  48. daved

    6 years ago

    Waino, Mikolas, Wacha, Martinez, Shreve, Cecil, Gregerson, Leone, Brebbia….and now possibly Miller all NOT rookies.

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    • stan lee the manly

      6 years ago

      And last year, Leone, Gregerson, Martinez, Cecil, Wacha, and Waino all missed massive amounts of time, so they were, as I stated above, replacing them with rookies in their rotation and bullpen. Flaherty, Gomber, Hudson, Hicks, Poncedeleon, Webb, Gant (I am not sure if he technically qualifies as a rookie, but last year was his first significant chunk of action)

      I suppose I misspoke and should have said the majority of the pitching staff WAS rookies rather than is, but it was pretty obvious what I meant, at this point that is just splitting hairs to split hairs.

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    • JFactor

      6 years ago

      Reyes, Hudson, Helsley, Hicks, Gomber, all very young and don’t have a spot in the rotation

      Reply
      • daved

        6 years ago

        Reyes hurt. Hicks in the bullpen with Hudson. Gomber likely 5th or 6th starter. What are you talking about?

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  49. STLBaseballFanSince2020

    6 years ago

    “Close to a deal” in Cardinal terms:

    Miller wants 3/$36 million

    Moz offers 1/$5 million

    Out of respect for the organization, Miller is willing to hear out another offer.

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  50. driftcat28 2

    6 years ago

    That’s a bummer

    Reply
  51. juicemane

    6 years ago

    Gonna spend a lot of money for what will be a marginal reliever for the next 2-3 years.

    Here’s 35 mil…
    Here’s a 3.5 ERA…
    You could get that elsewhere. This signing is just for the delusional Cardinals fans who think this team is ready to compete haha. Ownership is looking out for ya!

    Reply
    • JFactor

      6 years ago

      Career 2.24 ERA since becoming a reliever, don’t think the Cards intend on using him as a starter.

      And he’s 33 right now, not 35. Will turn 34 in May.

      Was throwing 95 in September after all the injuries.

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      • juicemane

        6 years ago

        What was his ERA last year??
        Not since becoming a reliever, haha.
        Using that stat helps your one sentence argument, but doesn’t show his current and continuing decline. Lol

        I wasn’t talking about his age…his ERA will be north of 3.5

        A 1 WAR pitcher next 3 years…um congrats

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        • Cards6270

          6 years ago

          Who even looks at ERA for a reliever? 1 ER allowed in an inning of work gives him a 9.00 ERA.

          Reply
        • juicemane

          6 years ago

          So look at WAR or FIP, all bad…probably only accounts for 1 WAR over both seasons. (1/2 or less both years)

          Reply
        • JFactor

          6 years ago

          Entering the final day of his season, it was 3.24

          He’ll be fine, let’s not freak out over small sample sizes.

          If he’s healthy, he’ll be dominate. If he’s not, he’ll be on the DL and they are weak on the left hand side of the pen.

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        • JFactor

          6 years ago

          And his FIP was 3.10 entering his last appearance of the season.

          Don’t freak out over small sample sizes.

          That’s like judging Gant on his 2017 MLB numbers and guessing how he’d do in the majors in 2018.

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    • baseballpun

      6 years ago

      He could go help the Pads compete but he’ll be 38 in 2025.

      Reply
      • baseballpun

        6 years ago

        *39.

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    • themed

      6 years ago

      Your delusional OJ Juice. The Cardinals have past the cubs this offseason. They have young solid veterans as starters with a slew of gifted youngsters to start also. Now a lights out bullpen to go along with a top notch offense and also improved defensively. This is going to be fun to watch. Baseball the way it outta be!

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  52. Yankeepatriot

    6 years ago

    Considering that ozuna will probably walk after 2019 the cards should get a bat win a few years of team control. Cub fans say they aren’t worried about their red birds but they should be. Plus the cubs have been declining since 2016

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      I’m not sure Ozuna knows what planet he’s on?

      Reply
      • Yankeepatriot

        6 years ago

        His defense is hilarious at times lol

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    • Ry.the.Stunner

      6 years ago

      “The Cubs have been declining since 2016”

      Of course they have. They won the World Series in 2016. Anything short of repeating is declining. 103 wins follows by 92 wins followed by 95 wins isn’t much of a decline though. Let’s not pretend they went from first to non-contenders.

      What a dumb statement.

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        The Cards have been reclining the last 3 years. In their chairs come October.

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        • cards81

          6 years ago

          I see what you did there daved…so clever

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Thanks. All I did was state a fact.

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      • Yankeepatriot

        6 years ago

        I wasn’t specifically stating win totals

        The bullpen looks really meh
        The rotation doesn’t look great at all
        Russell looks lost
        The overall offense has dropped. 40 games last year of 1/2 runs or less scored in 2018 correct ?

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    • themed

      6 years ago

      Great post Yankees. See you in the World Series. It will be an all time classic!

      Reply
  53. yukongold

    6 years ago

    I guess he won’t go into the HOF with a NY cap

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  54. daved

    6 years ago

    Mozeliak is a dope. He’s getting dumber by the year. It really is time for him to go. A guaranteed $25M for a soon to be 34 year old reliever coming off a season of 3 injuries. We all know Girsch isn’t making these deals, because I saw him at Starbucks today and he still has the strings attached to his arms, hands and head.

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    • baseballpun

      6 years ago

      It’s just money. And not a particularly high risk use of it either. The Cards aren’t the Rays. 25 million doesn’t represent 30% of their payroll.

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    • callmenate

      6 years ago

      They ate more than half that amount DFAing Holland last year.

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    • nmahan1984

      6 years ago

      What should he have done for a lefty reliever?

      Reply
    • Bunselpower

      6 years ago

      I will guarantee that you have sometime in the last month run your mouth about how Mozeliak never spends anything, and now, he gets one of the most talented relievers on the market and you complain that he spends too much.

      You need to accept that you are a chronic complainer that will never be happy. Whining when management doesn’t do what you want has got to be the dumbest pass time of sports fans. You make Cardinal fans look terrible and you should be ashamed because anyone with a functioning brain can tell you that, for STL, this is a great deal.

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    • cards81

      6 years ago

      But yet he is the President of baseball Operations for one the most successful Baseball franchises in history and here you are on mlbtraderumors calling him a dope and getting dumber…something seems off here

      Reply
      • daved

        6 years ago

        Plenty of idiots run big business operations. I guess you live under a rock? And my complaints about the Cardinals and Dorkzeliak is they spend money on too many middle of the road players. That has proved to be their downfall these last 3 years. They actually got away with it years ago because nobody else in the division cared to compete. Now that they are, the Cardinals have been left behind. I don’t make Cardinal fans look terrible. They do that very well without my help.

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        Do you know what I do for a living? No, no you don’t. Let’s put it this way…Mozeliak doesn’t impress me. But I guess when Cards fans call Theo Epstein an idiot, that is ok? Because he’s only won WS with 2 different franchises. Love the double standard that flows through downtown STL.

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        • cards81

          6 years ago

          Let’s focus on you daved…sure there are Ignorant cardinal fans..and if they think Theo is an idiot then that is definitely ignorant…but it’s you who is coming on here calling a very successful man a dope and getting dumber…which makes you the ignorant fan…let’s not be ignorant and say things like that…you are better than that daved…I mean you obviously do well if what Mo does doesn’t impress you…but yet you still come on here and bash him?

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          I bash Mo when it’s warranted. He has made really bad moves now the last 3-5 years. The first bad move goes all the way back to 2011 when he hired Matheny. I just get tired of reading about Mo and his genius. There’s been nothing close to greatness for a while now. That’s what I’m talking about, and this Girsch guy looks like a deer in headlights.

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  55. javier 3

    6 years ago

    Brett Cecil got paid like 10 million more then Miller and I like this better!

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      Cecil got more money because he got a stupid 4 year deal, not 2.

      Reply
  56. Jacob1982

    6 years ago

    Ok…let’s try and guess the wins by our pitchers…
    Solid lineup should help boost some numbers and bullpen I think will be decent enough to hold leads.
    Martinez-20
    Flaherty-18
    Wacha-17
    Micholas-17
    Gomber-15 (my 5th starter choice)
    Looks inflated…but, what if?
    That’s a solid rotation

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    • daved

      6 years ago

      11 guys in ALL of baseball won 17 or more games last year, and you think the Cards will have 4 guys do it in 2019? Not sure if you realize this, but starter’s win totals have gone DOWN by over 200 in the last 4 years. 87 wins by 5 starters? I would say that’s about as inflated as Mozeliak’s ego.

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      • Jacob1982

        6 years ago

        Lol. It’s definitely inflated I know. I did that on purpose. My point was that those numbers wouldn’t surprise me for any of them. I know they likely won’t all happen in the same season. But, it’s fun to be hopeful. I know probably not very realistic though

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        • Android Dawesome

          6 years ago

          Didnt Martinez only start 18 games in 2018? It would surprise me if he comes back in wins 20 in 2019.

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        • Jacob1982

          6 years ago

          Yeah, he was hurt a lot of the time. IDK…I just feel like he has a 20 win season coming if he’s healthy. Flaherty also wouldn’t surprise me. He is a stud and very mature.

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    • Jacob1982

      6 years ago

      Realistically…if those top 4 stay healthy…and our lineup produces like I hope it does…I do think we could have four 14-16 game winners. Which I would take…all the way to the postseason….lol

      Reply
    • Zachary Hines

      6 years ago

      No way..Martinez-15
      Flaherty 13
      Wacha. 11
      Mikolas. 17
      Gomber. 7
      OTHER. 10

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  57. stan lee the manly

    6 years ago

    Very good to see that his third year will only be triggered by a healthy Miller, 12 mil per is a lot of money if he’s not pitching. But hey, that’s the market these days. The Cardinals have addressed their two biggest holes, so it’s already been a successful offseason for them. Hopefully another bullpen move to come!

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  58. Wainofan

    6 years ago

    Let’s go!!!

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  59. JFactor

    6 years ago

    Very happy with the dollars on this.

    Good job

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    • stan lee the manly

      6 years ago

      That vesting option shows they learned from their mistakes, it’s really good to see. It will be fun to see him in a Redbird uniform

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      • daved

        6 years ago

        I may be wrong on this, but I think Miller is now tied with Carlos Martinez as the highest paid pitcher on the staff? If not, it’s damn close. $11.5M to $11M.

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        • JFactor

          6 years ago

          So it’s a bad thing that they don’t have bad money on the books and develop their own?

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          No, it’s a bad thing that a reliever is your highest paid pitcher. Not sure if you noticed this, but the “Cardinals system” has produced 1 playoff win in 4 years. The last 4 years, their highest paid pitcher(Wainwright) has produced a grand total of 29 wins. So technically, that was bad money on the books. As are Cecil and Fowler.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 years ago

          Lol. Find a way to complain about their biggest strength because they are not being paid big money. A young, talented, cost-controlled rotation is something teams dream of, and the Cardinals have it. But what, that’s a terrible strategy because it means you have to pay a free agent reliever more than them? Thanks, but I’ll take it every day of the week.

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        • themed

          6 years ago

          Let’s check how the Cardinals have done the last 15 years son

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        • Bunselpower

          6 years ago

          Actually, the Cardinal way has produced 31 playoff wins over the last 8 years, averaging out to almost 4 per year, which is an LDS series win and one win in the LCS per year, a remarkable feat. In that same span, no other team has produced more wins. That run is part of a span of 11 straight winning seasons amid 18 of 19 winning seasons.

          So please, tell me more about your superior “way”. I’m so anxious to hear it.

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        • Bunselpower

          6 years ago

          Yeah, having cheap starting pitching means your team sucks. Wow some people are so blind.

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        • daved

          6 years ago

          Let’s stick to recent years. Like I said, I dont care what a totally different manager and core of players did 15 years ago. What has this team accomplished in recent memory? I had hair 15 years ago, now I don’t. I’ve accepted that. I don’t keep looking at photos from 2003 to make myself feel better. Live in the here and now. The Cards have done NOTHING

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        • JFactor

          6 years ago

          rotation 5 of Martinez, Mikolas, Flaherty, Wacha and Gant are projected for a 4.01 FIP, and will be paid $26M

          Probably the most efficient rotation in baseball in terms of production for dollars, and a playoff contender.

          So yes, it makes sense to spend on free agents, the area they have struggled, to attempt to complete the roster.

          Their only weakness last year was the bullpen (errors to be good defensive efficiency otherwise).

          The pen is the focus after Goldie. Should be a 90+ win team.

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  60. InvalidUserID

    6 years ago

    Darn, really would have liked him back on the Yankees. Good luck in St. Louis!

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  61. Polish Hammer

    6 years ago

    Shame Cleveland couldn’t match that offer since they’ve recently freed up some money. But given his health issues last season I’d hate to them footing that bill to see him struggle again next year.

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  62. Bunselpower

    6 years ago

    Love the deal. Higher AAV, lower years, and the vesting option is a great move.

    I think what the Cardinals figured out with Cecil and Fowler is that paying the checks for bad production isn’t what stings, it’s having them take up a spot for so many years when the team churns out 2 win players like a Cardinals boo bird fan churns out irrational hatred for Mo. They get blocked and you now have a team with less profitability for more years and the impact is greater than just hiding a guy on the DL for a year. You can’t hide a 5 year contract, but you can hide 2.

    Reply
  63. Altanta Barves

    6 years ago

    Haha – Cards fans probably think they’ll contend this year because of Miller and Goldy. Suckers!

    Reply
    • Jacob1982

      6 years ago

      Braves fan on here huh? You guys have a good team too.
      I think we will contend yes. But, not just because of those signings. I think we are balanced all the way around. I think both our teams could make playoffs

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    • KCelts

      6 years ago

      What’s a Barve?

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    • cards81

      6 years ago

      Because they got one of the top bats and relievers on the market…yea I think they might…considering they always usually are right in the thick of things…so adding to outstanding players I guess you could say that

      Reply
    • Yankeepatriot

      6 years ago

      They actually can though and the off season isn’t even done yet

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    • JFactor

      6 years ago

      88 win team got a top 5 hitter and reliever from the last 5 years added to that group.

      Yeah, should contend.

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    • JKB 2

      6 years ago

      Why are they suckers. Cards improved their 2019 team dramatically. The Braves on the other hand … Donaldson? I am not impressed. You think the Braves are going to contend? Maybe but suppose some of the young guys have sophmore slumps etc.

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  64. Cardinals17

    6 years ago

    Now……just a wish list. Not much. Trade for Nolan Arenaldo and sign Bryce Harper. No problem. Move Carpenter to the lefthanded Utility Guy. He’d play pretty much regularly. Plus, Carpenter would get the needed cut back in games played to prevent back and throwing arm injuries. What a line up!!! But…..I know….. it’s just my dream. Right??

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    • STLBaseballFanSince2020

      6 years ago

      Carpenter would need to be traded, and Colorado would be the perfect fit for his consistent warning track power. I bet he could hit 50 homeruns playing half of his games there.

      While I like the idea of Arenado in the future, I think Rendon is going to be more realistic if we’re going to try and resign Goldschmidt. He’d be much shorter term, which the organization would be all over since they think so highly of Gorman. Rendon also fits a utility role.

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