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Marlins, Sandy Alcantara Becoming More Optimistic About Possible Extension

By Steve Adams | September 29, 2021 at 9:43am CDT

There’s “growing optimism” between the Marlins and right-hander Sandy Alcantara about a potential extension, reports Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald. It’s a notable turn of events after the Marlins’ initial overtures were reported to be on the light side. Talks between the two sides have been ongoing, per Jackson, and both parties feel there’s progress being made.

It’s not clear when a theoretical deal would come together. Such matters are often reserved for later in the offseason or even Spring Training. Progress being made at this point could lead to a rare but not unheard-of September extension for a key player of this nature, or it could simply lay the groundwork for when the two parties pick things back up early in 2022.

What is clear to see is just why Miami is so keen on the idea of keeping Alcantara for the long haul. The 26-year-old righty has steadily improved in parts of four seasons with the Fish and has now emerged as the workhorse leader on the pitching staff. He’s one of just four pitchers in all of Major League Baseball to have reached the 200-inning threshold in 2021, as teams have been even more guarded than usual with pitcher workloads on the heels of the pandemic-shortened 2020 campaign. Alcantara, however, isn’t simply a durable innings eater providing innings in bulk; he’s developed into one of the game’s most effective hurlers.

In 200 2/3 frames this year,  Alcantara boasts a strong 3.09 ERA with a roughly average 24 percent strikeout rate but near-elite walk and ground-ball rates (six percent and 53.4 percent, respectively). He averages 98.1 mph on his four-seamer and 97.5 mph on his sinker, complementing those high-speed offerings with a changeup and slider that both grade out as above-average pitches (the slider in particular). Alcantara’s 13.2 percent swinging-strike rate and huge 36.5 percent opponents’ chase rate are career-bests over a full season. This year’s ERA may look like a mere continuation of his 2020 success (3.00 ERA in 42 innings), but Alcantara has improved across the board in nearly every underlying rate stat of note.

Alcantara will be eligible for arbitration for the first time this winter, which has been an atypical juncture for starting pitchers to agree to extensions in recent years. As MLBTR’s Anthony Franco pointed out the last time extension rumors surrounding Alcantara surfaced, there are only two starting pitchers in the past half decade who’ve signed an extension when they were between three and four years of service time: Cardinals righty Carlos Martinez (five years, $51MM plus two club options) and Phillies righty Aaron Nola (four years, $45MM plus one club option).

The two contracts fall in the same realm in terms of total value, but Nola’s comparable guarantee over a shorter term was reflective of his superior results and stronger arbitration case to that point in his career. He likely prioritized a shorter deal as a trade-off, securing some early financial security while still being able to reach the market at a young enough age (31) to command a lucrative free-agent pact. Martinez’s deal surrendered considerably more team control but did so for a slightly larger guarantee that still represents a record sum for a pitcher in this service bracket.

On the surface, Alcantara has pitched well enough to stake a claim to set a new record, although it’d register as something of a surprise for a low-payroll club like Miami to set a new precedent in any service-time bracket. On the other hand, Alcantara has established himself as a high-end, foundational piece in the rotation and is now on the cusp of arbitration. That forthcoming arbitration raise gives him some leverage, as he’s all but locked up a notable salary for the first time in his career.

First-time arb-eligible pitchers have been stuck in a rather staggering rut when it comes to arbitration filings, as the repeatedly cited precedent for teams with first-time-eligible starting pitchers is Dontrelle Willis’ $4.35MM mark all the way back in 2006. David Price matched that sum in his own first-time offseason (2012), but the only first-time-eligible starting pitcher to top that mark was Dallas Keuchel ($7.25MM), who only managed to do so on the heels of being named American League Cy Young winner. Perhaps notably, Nola filed at a hearty $6.7MM before agreeing to his extension; the Phillies had countered with a $4.5MM filing figure, which would have nominally moved the precedent forward regardless of a hearing’s outcome.

Alcantara could struggle to move past that clearly dated precedent in arbitration, but he’s pitched well enough to command a salary in the low-$4MM range at the very least. Even with a step back or a notable injury in 2022, he’d be quite likely to receive a similar salary in 2023, given that a pitcher of Alcantara’s caliber wouldn’t be non-tendered after one poor or injury-marred season. All of that lessens any urgency — at least relative to a pre-arbitration scenario — to take too team-friendly an offer.

Time will tell whether the two parties can hammer out a deal, but it’s notable that the Marlins are making an attempt and are seemingly coming up from their initial proposals. They currently control Alcantara through at least the 2024 season, but even following the Nola trajectory would extend that control through 2026. Of course, we can’t know yet how any tweaks to the collective bargaining agreement might impact the arbitration process and subsequent extension structures, which only adds another layer to a complex set of negotiations.

Regardless, Alcantara looks like a focal point in an increasingly interesting Marlins pitching staff that also features Pablo Lopez, Trevor Rogers, Elieser Hernandez, Jesus Luzardo and Zach Thompson. Notable prospects such as Edward Cabrera, Sixto Sanchez, Max Meyer and Jake Eder (who recently had Tommy John surgery) provide the Fish wish a wealth of high-upside depth — depth that could also set the stage for some offseason trades as the club looks to bolster its core of young position players.

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  1. rememberthecoop

    1 year ago

    How about an Alcantara-for-Contreras straight up swap with the Cubs, if they aren’t successful in signing him to an extension? Good catxhers are hard to find and Willie is a top 3 catcher IMO.

    Reply
    • Steve Adams

      1 year ago

      Contreras is also a free agent next winter. The Marlins wouldn’t give up three years of Alcantara for one of Contreras — particularly if their primary motivation in trading him was dwindling team control and rising price tag;

      Reply
      • rememberthecoop

        1 year ago

        Fair point Steve.

        Reply
    • stretch123

      1 year ago

      No way in hell. Especially for just one year of Contreras. A Lopez for Contreras trade makes more sense or a similar deal to the Realmuto-Sixto swap makes more sense where two high end pitchers go to Chicago. Such as a Eury Perez and Kyle Nicholas package.

      Reply
      • Steve Adams

        1 year ago

        I don’t think the Marlins would part with any of their established pitchers for Contreras — probably not even most of their mid-range, near-MLB depth, either. They want a long-term option back there, and there are plenty of teams that both need pitching and have controllable catching talent with which they can afford to part.

        The Marlins don’t strike me as a great fit for Contreras — last offseason’s interest notwithstanding.

        Reply
        • stretch123

          1 year ago

          Steve – who are some names you see them looking at in terms of catching?

        • rememberthecoop

          1 year ago

          Yeah, I could see possibly Jacob Stallings as a target.

        • Cey Hey

          1 year ago

          I haven’t deep-dived into the numbers, but Stallings seems to be Gold Glove-worthy.

        • MarlinsFanBase

          1 year ago

          I guess you all aren’t aware that the Marlins are currently looking at three different young catchers for the remainder of the season – Alex Jackson, Payton Henry and Nick Fortes. Their offseason catching goals/target would depend on what their thoughts are on these three. One thing for sure, Alfaro’s days as the Marlins catcher (and perhaps the Marlins) are numbered and very likely coming to an end.

          Wilson Contreras being with the Marlins would depend solely on his price tag. Marlins are not paying much for him when they can have others for less trade chips than they’re willing to give.

  2. MetsFan22

    1 year ago

    He really wants to stay with a team that has to play two better teams for the next 5 years??? I see he doesn’t have ohtani mindset.

    Reply
    • VonPurpleHayes

      1 year ago

      The Marlins will be better than the Mets and Phillies in a few years. The Mets are a mess right now. Keep denying reality.

      Reply
      • MetsFan22

        1 year ago

        Lol the year the marlins are better then the Mets I’ll stop posting here. It won’t happen

        Reply
        • Poppin' Balls

          1 year ago

          Soooo…next year?

        • cubs2016

          1 year ago

          Wasn’t that last year? Yet, you’re still here.

        • tstats

          1 year ago

          Yes but it implies the future in the comment

        • Rayforever21

          1 year ago

          Burned!!!

        • VonPurpleHayes

          1 year ago

          They were last year. Does it retroactively count?

        • MarlinsFanBase

          1 year ago

          @MetsFan22

          See 2020. Marlins were better.

          If we didn’t have Anthony Bass handing over games, including 4 to your Mets, we would’ve had a better record this year too.

        • SpendNuttinWinNuttin

          1 year ago

          We’ve arguably been asking you to stop posting for a while now…

      • alc47

        1 year ago

        The Mets have some great positional prospects but I really have no faith in anything the Mets do.

        Reply
        • SalaryCapMyth

          1 year ago

          @MetsFan22. I think I’ve seen enough of your guarantees and promises to know they aren’t worth anything. =) Only one of then will happen. The Marlins WILL be better than the Mets sometime within the next coming few years and you WON’T stop posting here. Sadly, I’m pretty sure we’re stuck with you and all your silly predictions.

  3. OofAndYikes

    1 year ago

    What’s the point? This team is years away from having an offense, they haven’t shown a willingness to spend any money to supplement their core, and they don’t seem smart/competent enough like the Giants or Rays to find reclamation projects.

    Reply
    • Mjm117

      1 year ago

      Aguilar says hello.

      Seriously speaking…fair points. Fish should’ve signed and kept Marte but I personally like the return. However, prefer the stability of Marte.

      This off-season is huge for the current front office/regime to, for once, field a long term contending ML ball club.

      They have no excuses to do so.

      Reply
      • MarlinsFanBase

        1 year ago

        This is indeed a key offseason to see what they do. It’s clear who the guys that aren’t working out are and who the guys that are pieces to build with.

        Young bats to keep: Jesus Sanchez, Jazz Chisholm, Bryan De La Cruz, Lewin Diaz.

        Veteran bats to keep: Jesus Aguilar, Miggy Rojas, Bryan Anderson

        Time to move on from: Lewis Brinson, Jorge Alfaro, Isan Diaz.

        Some of the other pieces are useful for the bench.

        Reply
  4. mrperkins

    1 year ago

    Carlos Martinez took the bigger payout, went to the clubs and never came back. Maybe if he could have partied during covid time he could have sobered up and put together a good season this year prior to hitting the market. So much talent being wasted.

    Reply
  5. Metsin7

    1 year ago

    Alcantara will probably get traded soon, his arbitration salary is too much for Jeter to pay. This is the same guy who demanded over 20 mil to play into his early 40s but won’t pay any of his players. What a hypocrite

    Reply
    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      These two scenarios are completely disparate involving two different franchises. If the Marlins can’t extend him, then trading him in ’25 makes sense if he’s performing at the same level or better.

      Reply
    • Badfinger

      1 year ago

      Jeter made 12 million during his age-40 season, which was his final season. The last season he made 20 million was his age-36 season.

      To say Jeter “won’t pay any of his players” is such a lazy take. Jeter is the CEO and only owns 4% of the Marlins. Bruce Sherman is the majority owner. He’s the money man, not Jeter.

      I know, I’m wasting my time pointing out facts to a troll.

      Reply
      • SalaryCapMyth

        1 year ago

        Metsin isn’t a troll. He’s just posting an ignorant take. I mean hell, Jeter hasn’t even had much of an opportunity to extend anyone at all because so far he has only managed a rebuilding team.

        Reply
        • Cey Hey

          1 year ago

          All that young pitching suggests the Marlins are building the right way. The notion that some type of sell-off is in the cards is ludicrous.

  6. creacher

    1 year ago

    Man, I’ve always wondered why the writers here don’t use “%” and instead write out “percentage or percent” such a small thing but why the hell is it like this?? Ahah

    Reply
  7. @budselig6969

    1 year ago

    I thought Sandy was a girl’s name

    Reply
    • MarlinsFanBase

      1 year ago

      Like Sandy Koufax and Sandy Leon?

      Reply
      • jigokusabre0

        1 year ago

        or Sandy Alomar,

        Reply
  8. dman07

    1 year ago

    He’ll sign a 5 Year deal to stay…then 6 months later he’ll get traded!

    Reply
    • stretch123

      1 year ago

      Loria doesn’t own the Marlins anymore.

      Reply
      • MarlinsFanBase

        1 year ago

        Exactly. It’s amazing how those E!SPN and FOX Sports viewers still go with the ignorant narratives from those networks.

        Reply
        • jigokusabre0

          1 year ago

          Sherman’s first act as owner of the Marlins was to firesale their core for a handful of farts. The narrative is still an apt one.

  9. Josip Tomic

    1 year ago

    Hi Steve,
    Between the word ‘a salary in’ & ‘low-$4MM range’, you put ‘the’ twice. Can you fix this sentence?
    “but he’s pitched well enough to command a salary in ‘the the’ low-$4MM range at the very least”

    Reply

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