The Freddie Freeman era in Atlanta appears all but over. The Braves announced Monday that they’ve acquired All-Star first baseman Matt Olson from the Athletics in exchange for a hefty package of minor league talent: center fielder Cristian Pache, catcher Shea Langeliers and right-handers Ryan Cusick and Joey Estes. While some Atlanta fans may hold out hope that the implementation of the universal designated hitter leaves open the possibility for both Olson and Freeman to coexist on the same roster, Braves president of baseball operations Alex Anthopoulos implied otherwise when discussing the trade with reporters. Anthopoulos held back tears today, calling the Olson trade the hardest transaction he’s ever had to make — a clear allusion to the team’s plans for Freeman (or lack thereof).
As is the case with Anthopoulos, the acquisition of Olson will be a bittersweet one for many Braves fans. While Olson is an elite first baseman with Atlanta roots, it’s long been difficult to fathom Freeman, the 2020 National League MVP, ultimately moving on and signing with a new team. Freeman was a homegrown star in every sense of the word, going from No. 78 overall draft pick in 2007 to a five-time All-Star, league MVP and World Series champion. He’s spent the past 12 seasons in Atlanta, thanks in large part to an eight-year, $135MM contract extension that kept him in Braves gear long beyond his arbitration years. Freeman has become synonymous with the Braves, but it now appears all but certain that this is a changing of the guard.
As far as replacements for Freeman go, it’s tough to dream up a better option than the Atlanta-born Olson, however. Set to turn 28 later this month, Olson is a two-time Gold Glover at first base who just wrapped up a career year that netted him his first All-Star nod. Over the past three years, Olson has cemented himself as one of the premier power threats in the game, swatting 89 home runs and 65 doubles while playing his home games in the cavernous Oakland Coliseum. This past season, Olson shed the “strikeout-prone” label when he cut his strikeout rate from 27.5% in 2019-20 all the way down to 16.8%. He did so while maintaining an excellent 13.1% walk rate and turning in the finest overall season of his career: .271/.371/.540 with a career-high 39 home runs.
Of course, Olson is far more than your prototypical bat-first, slugging first baseman. He’s a two-time Gold Glove winner who happens to lead all Major League first basemen with 34 Defensive Runs Saved dating back to 2017 (despite playing in just 59 games that year). Olson’s 22.8 Ultimate Zone Rating is also tops among first basemen in that span, and his 15 Outs Above Average (per Statcast) rank sixth in that same span. There’s an argument to be made that bittersweet as the change might be for Braves fans, Freeman is being replaced by the most well-rounded, prime-aged first baseman in the game.
The Braves will control Olson for at least the next two seasons, as he’s currently sitting on four-plus years of Major League service time. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects a $12MM salary for Olson this coming season, and he’ll be due one more raise on that sum before qualifying as a free agent after the 2023 season. Of course, the Braves could well look to sign Olson to a long-term deal that would keep him with his hometown club far longer than those remaining two years of control. Atlanta reportedly balked at going six or more years on a potential Freeman extension, but Olson is four and a half years younger than Freeman, which could alleviate concerns about an eventual decline in the late stages of a long-term deal.
Just as it’s difficult for the Braves’ faithful to process the change, Athletics fans are surely reeling from the news as well. While periodic sell-offs of this nature have become second nature for Oakland diehards, the current core is one of the more talented and recognizable groups in recent memory. Olson was a fan favorite and beloved player at the Coliseum, but his departure begins to pave the way for what the A’s hope will be its next core group.
Pache and Langeliers are the true headliners here, though all four prospects ranked among the top 15 or so in the Braves’ farm. Pache, 23, has seen his stock dip a bit since being ranked as baseball’s No. 7 prospect (per Baseball America) in the 2020-21 offseason. That’s due both to a poor showing at the plate in the big leagues and a fairly pedestrian output in Triple-A Gwinnett. Pache received just 68 big league plate appearances in ’21 and batted .111/.152/.206, though it’s tough to glean much of anything from such a small sample. His work in Triple-A was more encouraging but not on par with his strong 2019 campaign in Double-A; in 353 trips to the plate with Gwinnett this past season, Pache batted .265/.330/.414.
Offense has never been projected to be Pache’s primary selling point, however. That’s not to say he couldn’t develop into a solid big leaguer at the plate, of course, but much of his prospect allure has come from the fact that he’s a plus runner who received 80 grades for his defensive upside in the outfield. Considering the huge space he’ll now have to patrol at the Coliseum, that’s a particularly valuable skill to have. And, if Pache can turn in something close to his lifetime .280/.330./406 slash from the minor leagues, he ought to be able to solidify himself as a highly valuable big leaguer before long. Pache is still near universally regarded among the sport’s top 100 prospects.
Turning to the 24-year-old Langeliers, he’ll give the A’s another potential high-end catcher before long. Sean Murphy is the incumbent option there and had a fine season in ’21, but Langeliers was the No. 9 overall pick in 2019 and is fresh off a .256/.339/.494 showing between Double-A and a brief stop in Triple-A. Baseball America ranked Langeliers 54th among all prospects, calling him an excellent defender with a “cannon” arm and above-average power. That he reached Triple-A already in 2021, albeit only for five games, speaks to his proximity to the Majors. Langeliers also ranks as baseball’s No. 70 prospect at FanGraphs and No. 80 at The Athletic.
With Langeliers now perhaps the future behind the plate, Oakland will at least have the ability to more comfortably listen to offers on Murphy if they see fit. Murphy is controlled another four seasons and just won a Gold Glove while popping 17 home runs, but he’ll reach arbitration next year — around the time Langeliers is likely to be ready for an everyday audition at the big league level.
As for Cusick and Estes, both are well regarded in their own regard, even if they haven’t received the type of national attention that Pache and Langeliers have. Cusick was Atlanta’s first-round pick just last summer, joining the organization after posting huge strikeout totals during his sophomore and junior seasons at Wake Forest (37% overall). The 6’6″, 235-pound righty sits in the upper 90s with a heater that has touched 102 mph.
Command was an issue for Cusick in college, but in 16 1/3 innings with Low-A Augusta last season, Cusick punched out more than half of the 67 hitters he faced while issuing just four walks. It remains to be seen whether he can sustain those gains, but there’s huge potential if he can indeed refine his command. If not, a triple-digit fastball and this type of bat-missing ability will surely play up as a potential late-inning reliever. He was generally regarded among the system’s 10 best overall prospects.
As for the 20-year-old Estes, he was the Braves’ 16th-round selection in 2019 but has quickly elevated his profile. Drafted out Paraclete High School in Lancaster, Calif., Estes had a nondescript pro debut that lasted 10 innings in ’19, didn’t pitch due to the canceled 2020 minor league season and then broke out with a monster year as Cusick’s teammate in Low-A Augusta. Through 20 starts, a total of 99 innings, Estes notched a 2.91 ERA with a 32.1% strikeout rate and a 7.3% walk rate. He was an extreme fly-ball pitcher in 2021 (33.2% grounder rate), but that’s not a huge concern for the A’s, given their spacious home environs. Estes’ success came despite being nearly three years younger than the average competition he faced. While he and Cusick are both at least one, if not two full seasons away from making a big league impact, they both add some considerable upside to an Oakland system that was generally regarded among the thinnest in the sport.
“This is the cycle for the A’s,” Forst said back in early November when addressing reports of a likely payroll reduction. “We have to listen and be open to whatever comes out of this. This is our lot in Oakland until it’s not.” Those foreboding words have already manifested in the trade of two popular and productive A’s stars, and there’s little sense expecting that Oakland will put a foot on the brakes now. They’ve secured four new pitching prospects and a pair of ballyhooed close-to-the-Majors position players already (Pache, Langeliers), and things are likely just getting started.
As for the Braves, the acquisition of Olson will turn the page on perhaps the team’s most iconic player since Hall of Famer Chipper Jones. The 2020 MVP crowning for Freeman was a high note in his career, but the team’s storybook World Series run, with Freeman at the heart of the charge, will make an even more fitting end to this chapter in the team’s history. Olson will have major shoes to fill at Truist Park, but so long as he carries on at something near the .254/.348/.515 pace he’s tallied over his past 564 Major League games, the Braves will be in good hands.
ESPN’s Jeff Passan first reported that trade and all five players involved (Twitter thread).
TradeAcuna
NOOOOO. **** **** ****
As long as Freeman does not go to the West, I’m okay with it….. but still ****
Benjamin560
I’m just glad he’s out of the AL WEST.
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Oh crap
TradeAcuna
Of course, they end up trading Shea…
Bad move by the Braves.
seamaholic 2
No way. Olson is 4 years younger, much cheaper (for the next two years anyway) and better on both sides of the ball. This is a fantastic and brave move by Atlanta, one they’ll get hammered for by sentimental fans but a great outcome overall. Pache can’t hit. Langeliers is a big loss but you never know with catchers. Definitely worth it.
And I’m the opposite of a Braves fan.
j_butte
Pache is awful offensively
slimmycito
Except the one random grand slam he hit against my Jays lol.
SoCalBrave
For once I agree with that guy, in that Langaliers is a Buster Posey type catcher that will be way more valuable than Olson. This will be remembered as a worse trade than the Wainwright deal.
DogDays2
Awful ? Based on what?
YourDreamGM
Braves fans on other sites seemed ok with Freeman or Olsen. A trade without Langeliers would have been ideal but Oakland is pretty sharp and the braves do have Contreras.
Oscar the Grouch
It’s a nice consolation prize, but that’s the face of the franchise you just closed the door on. Olson had a great all around year last season BUT that was the first time his all around numbers were that high. Freddie was and is the complete package. .300 hitters with power don’t grow on trees. My money says that Freddie is a throwback that has a game that will age gracefully as opposed to the all or nothing vast majority. Yes Olson is younger, but he’ll have to do what he did last season for the next 4 years to be comparable to Freddie. Olson has a better defense , Freddie has better on base skills IMO.
SoCalBrave
3 years from now Olsen won’t be on a Braves uniform and Freeman will still be putting up MVP type numbers
Braveslifer
I thought the same thing when Greg Maddox left and we seem to still be a franchise. We’ll be fine. Yes, it stings, but we knew Freeman’s demands were beyond what the “franchise” was willing to give.
nitnontu
Difficult to see a franchise icon replaced (whether due to him asking too much or the team being greedy/cheap), but if it’s going to happen you couldn’t have done much better by adding a player of Olson’s caliber and age
flamingbagofpoop
Why the next 4 years? Shouldn’t it really just matter what Olson does vs what Freeman does going forward?
Braveslifer
I never mentioned 4 years…
UGA_Steve
And from the small sample I don’t think he is nearly as good defensively as people say he is. Hard to tell, but he is no Andruw Jones covering the diamond. Of course he could still be a GG’er and not be on Jones level, but I just didn’t get any ‘wow’ factor watching him. Definitely doesn’t make up for the bat.
Neil G
That’s a good post. Not sure that Olson is better offensively than Freeman over long haul but agree with most of that
Mario93
@Oscar the Grouch definitely agree. I’d take the real professional hitter who can bat you .300 with the run producing over the “slugger” any day of the week. especially in the playoffs, that’s not even a question.
Redwolves3
If Freeman stays in NL (possibly Dodgers) he could haunt the Braves every time they face him.
Lanidrac
The same could be said of Albert Pujols, but the Cardinals didn’t regret letting him go when he was asking for too many years for his new contract. They even returned to the World Series just two later without him.
Oscar the Grouch
Freeman is not looking for record money, that’s the difference
802Ghost
Why do most fans always assume it’s the team who makes the final decision. Atlanta needs a 1b, and ST starts Thursday. FF has had plenty of time to sign if he planned on coming back to Atlanta.
Hell, sign the 5 year deal and negotiate a 6th, or go for an option that’s based on PA.
A team can only do so much, and a team can only wait so long.
Let’s go Olson, welcome to Atlanta.
blazinventura
If he wanted to be there and to continue runs at WS titles for years w/ the one and only franchise he’d ever play for ( Like he told Chipper), he would have made it happen at a reasonably close contract that he’s gonna get without that 6th year. Do you honestly think if he wanted to play that 6th year, that the Braves wouldn’t have given him that when the time comes for being that Legacy type Loyal Legend in ATL…? He’s freakin rich already, he wanted to negotiate, the Braves wanted a First baseman. Took the ball outta his court and made a business decision. Done deal. And I’m a Braves fan who’s loved Freddie for those 12 years. He caused this unfortunately and the franchise moves forward like they should before they missed out on our future stud.
noiro
Indeed they do have Contreras, just not the good one..
Braveslifer
We essentially traded Shea for Olson. Pache has no trade value.
seamaholic 2
The two pitchers are significant prosects, especially Cusick, but if you follow the Braves you might think differently.
DogDays2
You lost me at “no trade value”, that’s simply ridiculous.
YourDreamGM
@DragBunt Exactly. Another team will always think they can improve your failed prospect.
fw-
Cusick supposedly has really good stuff. I’ve never heard of the other guy. Their best pitching prospects imo are Strider and Bryce Elder. I didn’t want to see anyone of those 2 go. I’m actually fine with what the Braves sent over. I thought it would be much more.
DogDays2
YourDreams—I agree somewhat but a failed prospect is 29 years old, not 23.
YourDreamGM
@DragBunt I disagree. You eventually run out of ideas to improve a player. He hasn’t improved much or any in years. What are you going to do keep him on your 40 man for the next 5 years at AAA. Best to get value for him and give him a shot somewhere else.
Tomahawk Takeover
Must no follow the braves much if you don’t know their prospects
DogDays2
YourDreams ok that’s fair. But I didnt call him untouchable, Just said he’s not a failed prospect. It’s not a perfect science-not every good player follows a natural progression towards success.
I mean the guy is 23 and been with one organization. It’s not like he has no talent.
richardc
Don’t sleep on Joey Estes…The dude is a gamer with a very high upside…He could actually end up being the best prospect that the Australian get from this deal..
He’s extremely advanced for his age in terms of his pitching mix and feel for pitching…He’s the one that really hurts losing for me..
YourDreamGM
@DragBunt I should be more clear. Not failed in general. Just with the Braves. Just takes one person to change or unlock something. If they believed they could significantly improve his hitting they would not have traded him.
DogDays2
YourDreams, Ok, we’re on same page.
802Ghost
Anyone want Touki? lol
Braveslifer
Do you remember Christian Bethancourt? Remember how high we all were in him? He was traded at the age of 23.
Braveslifer
Pache isn’t panning out, both pitchers were A ball guys and both had control issues.
TradeAcuna
Calling it now, Freeman will say Charlie wanted his dad to play against Tatis more so he chose the West.
Francys01
There is a high chance now that Freeman could play for the super team/ Dodgers.
Pete'sView
Yuk! Please NO.
Eric P
as a Giants fan I hate that I have to agree with you. Especially since they missed out on Cruz, they now will be all in on FF. Whatever additional moves the Giants make, the Ds again will be the team to be in the NL West.
Pete'sView
Wow! I know how Braves fans must feel losing Freddie, but they are getting Olson who will be fabulous in that lineup for a long time. Plus he has a great glove.
Tomahawk Takeover
Pete’s view, by a long time you mean 2 yrs?
Pete'sView
Tomahawk — You think AA will let Olson walk after two years? I don’t think so after letting Freddie walk—Braves fans like yourself would be up in arms, as if they’re not irate already.
Freddie is a great player and I was sure he’d be a lifetime Brave, but his insistence on 6 years made it untenable for AA. Someone is going to get a great player. I just hope it isn’t the Dodgers.
48-team MLB
The Braves will try to work out an extension with Olson. Whether or not it actually happens is up in the air.
stymeedone
Will they give Olson six years?
802Ghost
Well, since he’s a few years younger than FF, don’t think it would be a problem.
Alan Horn
I have been a Reds fan for around 65 years. Being from the south I l have liked the Braves also. This was a very smart choice by the Braves. While being great in the past, Freeman is destined for injury or a fall off in stats very soon. A long term deal at the money being asked would be a huge mistake. First he is large in statue and is well north of age 30. So it is a great chance he falls off talent wise or is injured often. History doesn’t support him staying healthy or paying him a ton of money. The Braves and their fans should just say thanks for the great years as a Brave and good luck in the future. Some fool will pay him.
seamaholic 2
Well said and totally accurate.
Frank Reid
Remember Frank Robinson was “old” at 30?
GarryHarris
Frank Robinson was called “an old 30”. If the Reds waited one more season to trade him, it was evident since he had only one more great season after his triple crown..
casorgreener
Shout out to the Braves. Owners need to Stop signing these bad long term contracts.
I’m an Astros fan and don’t want a 10 year deal for Correa. Let these clowns walk
48-team MLB
@Casor_Greener
A World Series rematch would be fun. I do like some variety though so maybe after we play a couple other teams in the World Series first.
casorgreener
@48 team
lol. I feel the same
48-team MLB
Let’s say the Braves win championships against the White Sox and Yankees before the rematch with the Astros.
YourDreamGM
@Casor_Greener I think you are safe. I can’t see your owner going from his lowball 5 year 160 million to 10 year 300 million ish.
casorgreener
Yeah I like his mentality.
mj-2
I don’t know what the Braves are thinking. Do they think they won’t have to pay Olson in 2 years?
Gonna be right back in the same spot with a worse hitter
YourDreamGM
@mj maybe they extend him for a better deal than freeman wanted. Maybe the comp pick is still around and they get a prospect back. Maybe a current prospect emerges. Always another trade or free agent. Or a current player moving to 1b.
802Ghost
Why are you blaming the Braves? This is a 50/50 mix. FF is just as much to blame (if he does leave) as Atlanta is.
1 player is not greater than the team. There’s some younger stars who are going to be expensive soon, I’m sure they’d like to wrap up.
AA likes to keep money in the bank for mid-season trades, ya know, like the ones he made to bring the Trophy to Atlanta.
Braves will be fine, AA is a great GM and has done a great job.
Shoechewer
Well said and totally accurate.
17dizzy
With a younger players—- that’s going to happen to every team and every player. So why don’t you just say your pissed the Braves didn’t resign Freddie Freeman— the Atlanta fan favorite?? Olsen will never make fans forget Freeman. But—- the Braves wont miss a beat having Olson in their lineup.
iverbure
Someone should check on A’sfanintheUK after he said the A’s wouldn’t sell Lmao.
birdsfan415
no way they’re moving on from freeman
bighiggy
Maybe he will dh? Probably not but a freeman Olson lineup would be awesome
rememberthecoop
But why would you DH Olson? One of the things you’re paying for is his terrific defense at 1B.
bighiggy
Freemans pretty good defensively too. If they had both, someone has to dh lol. I know it will never happen but with both that lineup would be insane
rememberthecoop
No, I get it thatbwoukd have to be the way they go about it but that’s another reason why it won’t happen.
holycowdude
Ozuna says hello
17dizzy
Yes Freeman & Olson teamed up would be a fantastic Braves Dream!!!! However—- As in everything——— Unfortunately…..MONEY burst that bubble.
WillieMaysHayes24
That’s exactly what they’re doing.
bucsfan0004
Olsen is a complete downgrade to Freeman. Olsen is good, but what a boneheaded move letting Freeman walk
seamaholic 2
Olson is better in nearly every way, and is 4 years younger. Just plays for a lower visibility team. Check the numbers.
MC Tim C
Olson .271 avg, 39 HR, 101 R, 111 RBI, 5.8 WAR
Freeman .300 avg, 31 HR, 120 R, 83 RBI, 4.7 WAR
rct
Olson put up better numbers than Freeman, costs way less, and is four years younger. Honestly, going forward, this is a great move for the Braves unless Olson falls apart.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Wrong.
The Natural
Freddie is a better pure hitter, but Olson is a better power hitter and he hasn’t even topped out yet. Freddie is a good defender, but Olson is better. Olsen will improve in that new park.
Apparently the ask was too high. Freddie will get less now. Very shrewd move by Atlanta.
And I’d also say that Oakland didn’t get enough, but their track record on trades is solid.
bucsfan0004
Nice cherry pick of 2021 stats. Roll those stats back a few more years. One good year for Olsen, an amazing string of HOF years for Freeman.
seamaholic 2
Yes but Freeman’s 32. He’s certainly declining now.
MC Tim C
Except he put up similar stats in 2019
RunDMC
Downgrade…? How so? He was better than Freeman per WAR on both sides of the ball in a home pitcher’s park with a lackluster offensive supporting cast. I appreciate Freeman, but he’s not a 5-WAR player like Olson is — and if you put Olson in Truist (tailor-made for lefties) with that supporting cast — he’s gonna hit 40-45/110 RBI/100 run and play plus defense making 40% of Freeman’s salary and selling jerseys as a hometown kid.
getrealgone2
You always have most level headed takes for the Braves fans. I’ve been one for almost 40 years. They are some of the biggest homers in sports. Which is funny because the majority of them hardly pay attention to the team.
braves fan 138
100% agree, also he is going to most likely hit 50 homeruns in ATL; especially at Suntruist Park.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Olson will cost less in salary for two seasons, but there is a bigger picture you have to look at.
The Braves gave up Langaliers, who has the look of an outstanding catcher. I’m not even sure Contreras will be an adequate big leaguer. So eventually they’ll have to buy a catcher. You also now have to extend Olson or the deal is a monumental fail.
I won’t say Olson isn’t capable of holding the position well, but I hate this for a ton of reasons not directly tied to the player. The sixth year for Freeman was a small price, but AA can be foolishly stubborn.
rct
lmao talking about their most recent numbers is a ‘cherry pick’. Olson was great in 2017 (in limited time), 2018, 2019, and 2021. Looking at his COVID year stats of 2020 is what is actually cherry-picking.
RunDMC
Trust me, I’ve had time to think/reason with it being on the ledge. The strong offer was because AA knew Olson was THE ONLY replacement for Freeman.
From a marketing perspective, having a hometown kid come back in the height of his career and hit bombs, most likely with higher RBI totals than Freeman — Braves fans will warm to him quickly. By giving up Shea Langeliers, they were able to keep Michael Harris and turn the page on Pache – who has serious offensive questions – while possibly giving Drew Waters a chance. It also allows them to keep more pitching prospects for depth, though I’d imagine they’ll another COF, backend SP (Greinke?) as insurance and possibly see how bullpen arms looks, though they’re excited for Kirby Yates to return sometime.
RunDMC
Foolishly stubborn…? I think that can be more applied to Braves fans clutching to their #5 jerseys. This hasn’t happened for a few years — and AA just won a championship without many stars (Acuna, Ozuna, etc.). Yesterday, we just saw Donaldson’s contract that he left ATL for dumped half way in and $50M left. That foolishly stubbornness saved ATL from that salary dump that most likely would have effected Austin Riley’s maturing at 3B – as he now looks like a star in just 1 season following.
I appreciate the loyalty for Freeman, but it takes 2 to tango and while not knowing the numbers, I’m ok with AA clutching his pearls.
Appalachian_Outlaw
This will sound silly to some, but I think it’s important to bring Joc back now for the clubhouse. I don’t think it fully offsets the loss of Freeman’s leadership, but I think it helps.
Appalachian_Outlaw
AA didn’t win a championship, unless there were some World Series appearances by him that I missed?
AA made some good moves, I’ll give you. As you said though, it takes two to tango. If those OFs weren’t available, where are the Braves?
kodiak920
Logical. Flawlessly logical.
xalz
@Appalachain_Outlaw Funny, you mentioning bringing Job back to the Braves for more Clubhouse leadership. I haven’t quite yet wrapped my head around this trade and Freddie no longer being a Brave. All my mind keeps circling to is, “Kinda wish we had Bryce Ball back… ”
I know it’s not feasible and changes the World Series Championship history, but Byrce would be nice to have as a DH and additional 1B piece. I cannot wrap my head around Freddie leaving and heading back to his West coast home most likely. Slowly, I’m comprehending the trade pieces, too. Other than, Pache (lack of pop is a glaring hole) the A’s received three bona fide prospects.
RunDMC
Many are also forgetting that Freddie has a QO attached to him and if he bolts – we get a compensatory pick, which could almost replace giving up the #24 overall pick (Cusick) in 2021.
Now with Chase Petty going to CIN – 2 1st-rounders from the 2021 Draft have already switched teams.
17dizzy
I hate to imply this—- but if Freddie Freeman really wanted to stay—- maybe he should have expressed that to his Agent. By his Agent shopping Freeman around… to many different teams… through yesterday—- Why would the Braves not move forward with Plan B.
rememberthecoop
Wrong.
VonPurpleHayes
Freeman is almost certainly gone now.
rememberthecoop
Of course.
Dorothy_Mantooth
@birdsfan415 – Freddie is gone. While everyone loved Freddie in Atlanta, him demanding a 6 year deal at top dollar was too much for Atlanta to pay. This is why AA is one of the best in the business. He knows what his budget is and how to maximize the value on the dollars he spends. This was certainly a heart-wrenching decision for AA, but IMO he made the right call. Olson will be more productive than Freddie over the next 6 years. Not sure if Atlanta will be able to re-sign him but he’ll be an excellent addition to the World Champs roster.
Justplayball@13
While the Phillies are still asleep at the wheel.
AndyMeyer
We get to see Odubel Herrera again!!!
seamaholic 2
They don’t have the farm system to match that offer. Braves barely did!
YourDreamGM
Phillies top 3 are good. ? Is do you completely destroy your farm? Not when you have Hoskins already.
609Collectibles
They’re actually extremely active, they just haven’t gotten to the finish line yet on several avenues. Patience
Asfan0780
They were connected to Matt chapman but refuse to give up one of their top 3 prospects
Acuña Matata
Sherman’s March begins
waterdog311
But it’s October that matters most!
srechter
Wow Freddie actually gone. What a world.
Jaysfan1981
Freeman to the Jays?
rememberthecoop
I don’t know. Would they move Vlad back to 3B? He wasn’t good defensively there and it got him hurt. I don’t see it. Maybe the Dodgers?
mister guy
or padres – if they can get rid of hosmer maybe package with a prospect and trade for cash and then pick up freeman
mmyechoandbunnymen
That’s not enough for any team to take on Hosmer. I don’t think you realize how utterly bad Hosmer’s contract and his stats are.
YourDreamGM
Canada would have to pay him 200 million and Hosmer trade lol. It could happen with AJ but makes much more sense to keep your prospects and grind it out. Likely LA. Most likely. NY possible. Bos less possible.
TalkSomeSense
Why would Canada have to pay him 200m? A competitive young team, taxes in Cali and CA are close to identical. Less crime- He played for Canada ..
Jaysfan1981
IF, BIG IF. If the Jays went that route I think they certainly clear it with Vlad first, I think Vlad is probably ok with it. He mainly struggled at 3b because he was seriously out of shape at that time. Didn’t really get into shape until last year. He’s young enough and obviously played INF as a youth that it’s not entirely out of the realm of possibility to shift back to 3B for 4-5 years while Freeman holds onto 1st.
He probably gets more $$$ out of being a decent fielding 3B with an amazing bat than an above average fielding 1B with an amazing bat.
stymeedone
Reality is that Vlad is a 1B much like Sanchez is a C and Castellanos is an OF. You hope for slightly below average, but have to settle for bad. Putting Castellanos back to 3B would be a better idea. Forcing any player into your lineup, like the Jays would have to, is just nonsense. Even for a player of Freeman’s magnitude. It would make more sense to add Correa at SS, and I’m not recommending that either.
TalkSomeSense
Carlos Baerga tweeted that FF would sign with the Jays tonight or tomorrow. Gurriel Jr put up a ” shh” emoji and Vlad Jr liked Baerga’s tweet. Who knows might be something to the rumours.
drew ford
Wow. A bittersweet moment for Atlanta fans.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Not really. I’m just bitter.
bubblegumborders
Farewell Fred.
oldschool 15
Looks as though Freeman is headed to LA?
downsr30
Not a great look for the Braves from a franchise perspective. Just winning a championship and moving on from the guy that was your heart and soul, but I get it. Olson is younger, has a lot of potential, and doesn’t carry the risk of a star that would likely be baggage at the back end of the contract.
Samuel
May not “look good” but this is yet another great move from AA and his staff.
DanielDannyDano
Remember, Matt Olson hit .195 while playing in all 60 games during the 2020 season.. Just sayin’….
zacharydmanprin
DDD in 2021 Olson had a .227 BABIP = bad luck/small sample size/Extenuating Covid circumstances.
Jean Matrac
Stats in a 60 game season aren’t worth much.
YourDreamGM
So did Bryan Reynolds and a lot of other guys. I can find a bad 2 month sample in a lot of great player’s careers. With such a thrown off routine I am surprised more people didn’t struggle.
SoCalBrave
look at Freeman’s first 60 games of last season. Just sayin’…
FisherSux
Look at Freddie’s first 45 games last year. Even the best hitters in the league can have a bad couple of months.
Fred McGriff
@DanielDannyDano
You must be new to the game.
kynyrd skynyrd
He didn’t sign the extension either.
downsr30
#1, #2, #6, #14 prospects given up for Olson. Why trade prospects when you could re-sign a more dependable player in Freeman?
Samuel
Because you’ll have the money to keep the young veterans as they approach FA.
SoCalBrave
Because it takes 2 to tango. Freeman probably wants to go west.
802Ghost
Braves have finally used prospects. They learned their lesson in last 5 years.
Appalachian_Outlaw
They would’ve had the money with Freeman, Samuel. Morton comes off the books, and that pays for some of it.
YourDreamGM
@downsr30 Because you can put 170 million or whatever cash in your wallet and bank account. I guess you could do it with the prospects as well but I can see problems arising.
You can do more with the 100 million and change and Olsen then just Freeman.
Braveslifer
You handicap yourself re-signing Freeman to the money he was asking. We need OF help, rotation needs. We have the financial ability to support those needs now
17dizzy
Sounds like it!! He definitely wanted to leave Atlanta— no matter what he implied to Chipper—- or his Agent would have been on the Braves doorstep every morning until a deal with options was worked out.
Codeeg
This is exactly what happened to the cardinals with Pujols.
bucsfan0004
Not ‘exactly’. Pujols was about 35 when he left the Cardinals and St Louis knew that.
MTG
The Cardinals moved on from the best player in baseball in Albert Pujols in 2011 after winning the World Series. Freeman and Pujols were/are both 31 after that World Series title going into free agency. Look how that contract that Pujols got turned out. Teams are going to be really gunshy about signing 30+ players to anything more than a 3 year deal, no matter who it is.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s business. Not like they lowballed him but didn’t want to offer him an extra year. (The Astros lowballed Correa.) If Judge leaves NY, it’ll be a tough pill to swallow but I can I’m not going to fault the team for lack of trying.
Lanidrac
The Cardinals didn’t regret letting Pujols walk in the same situation. The number of years was also the sticking point for both teams.
YanksFan22
I am miserable.
Samuel
Think how you’ll feel if the Yankees give him 6 years, and for at least the last 4 it’ll be like the contracts they have now with Stanton, Hicks, LaMahieu, etc.
Ducky Buckin Fent
This just clears the path for Freeman. Save the prospects for a catcher.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, Ducky. This may actually be interesting….
Ducky Buckin Fent
Cash seems to be shaking up the lineup.
Which you have been calling for since I started posting here. I oftentimes took a more conservative stance. I was content to tinker & plug holes. But Cash is remaking us.
He changed the templates in both the bullpen & rotation. Since the deadline, he has been moving away from RH TTO bats. I can almost guarantee (at least) 2 more additions (& maybe a 3rd.)
But make no mistake: this is (going back to last summer) a pretty major remodel in progress.
RobM
@Ducky, you could be right. As I noted below, it’s also possible that with the Braves likely out of the picture, Freeman himself may emotionally be ready to consider a wider range of offers. He (his agent) perhaps was playing the Dodgers off the Braves to get a better offer from the Braves. Didn’t happen, and knowing how the Dodgers don’t like giving long-term deals to older players, it could open the door for the Yankees. Perhaps.
Yankee Clipper
And, the Yankees seem to be one of the only teams that prefer throwing extra years on to keep the AAVs down ….
RobM
Which conflicts me, Clipper!
Ducky Buckin Fent
I don’t actually think it’ll happen. But it is certainly what I want to see transpire.
jopeness
I thought Torres with some prospects for Olson might be in the workings today. I even thought some crazy flip of Donaldson for Olsen and Chapman, however seeing what the Braves gave up, I don’t see how the A’s could pass on that.
You Can Put It In The Books
Bye baby, Freddie
Tacoshells
Wooooow
sgord03
Bye bye, Freddie.
metsfan1992
Freeman either to Yankees or Dodgers?
candymaldonado
Freeman to Dodgers confirmed.
path501@yahoo.com 2
What is your source?
Milwaukee-2208
Bye bye Fred Fred
A Seal
Freeman??.
Captain Judge99
Relieved truthfully. Let’s just re-sign Rizzo for 2 years now.
Yankee Clipper
Ugh…. We desperately need to do something. Either trade prospects for SP, or C, & acquire starting SS. To hang on to prospects for the future so they can be rule V picks or not pan out is silly. Ship ‘em out and win now!
Ducky Buckin Fent
Kiner-Falefa is your SS, Clip.
Sign Freeman. No prospect cost & an impact player.
Yankee Clipper
Agreed Ducky…IF we sign Freddie.
YankeesBleacherCreature
C needs to be the priority now. Until Freeman signs, Yankees are going to wait out on Rizzo.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I hope you are finding all the “now we need a catcher” takes as ironically amusing as I am. We’ve been Phat Sancho’s biggest (only?) supporters on the board. Sure wish the Twins had wanted Higashioka instead, man.
Yankee Clipper
Ducky, I still think you called it best and apparently the Twins listened. According to an article I read today they plan to use Gary as a DH and BACKUP catcher. What you have said all along man. Acquire catching but keep Gary as the backup & send Higgy off.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Ya know, as a fella who routinely gets outsmarted by creatures with really small brains, every so often I do actually have a glimmer of Baseball Insight.
Trust me. I’m as surprised as everyone else when it happens.
bluesteele
Welcome to LA Freddie!!!! Loyalty is hard to find my friend.
JeffreyChungus
Two southern boys are going home. Olson back to GA and Freeman back to CA
Mario93
Cool
desertbull
That can only mean one thing….Freeman to LA.
stanton100
Thank you Freddie Freeman. We miss you already
Rangers29
I thought Freeman was gonna be a Brave forever…. this hurts to see just as a Rangers fan. Love that dude.
Still wonder what this return is gonna be though…
stymeedone
Now Texas can go after Freddie, and sign Correa, becoming the most paid IF in the history of baseball!
powered by balco
goodbye Freddie, enjoy LA.
phnxdark23
Dang. Well, if we’re losing Freddie, this is the way to do it. Just really hoping Wright isn’t part of the package.
SoCalBrave
I would have loved to have Wright included instead of Langeliers
dan_plays_drums
Why do Braves fans hate this so much? Olson is younger and incredibly cheap and put up nearly 6 WAR last season.
Jean Matrac
I think it’s because of what it means for Freeman. But I agree. I think Braves fans could be a bit sad about Freddie, and still love the acquisition at the same time.
bravos14
Only thing needed now is an extension.
bravesiowafan
It reeks of texeria 2.0
SoCalBrave
Because Langeliers is gonna be Buster Posey 2.0.
So not only are we losing the fave of our Franchise, but also a big part of its future
disadvantage
Losing the face of the franchise goes beyond putting up good numbers (which Freddie is still capable of, even if Olson puts up better numbers).
As a Giants fan, if the Giants had, say, acquired Realmuto in 2019 while Buster was in decline, I would’ve still be bummed even though Realmuto represented a younger player that was much better. I’d have still been pumped about Realmuto, but looking back, I am glad that scenario is purely hypothetical, as I could not imagine Buster in another uniform.
Appalachian_Outlaw
There are intangibles you can’t measure with statistics, and value you can’t replace. Freeman has been a steadying presence on the Braves.
Olson may be great, and I have no bad things to say about him. My gripe is management’s shortsightedness here.
jimmertee
Attaboy AA.
Cya Freddie. We can’t afford you.
ChrisEnvy76
Wow, that is crazy. No more Freeman? I’d be so upset if I were a Braves fan.
seamaholic 2
Olson’s probably just as good.
2012orioles
It’s not about being good it’s the attachment to a fan favorite.
PutPeteRoseInTheHall
Freeman…
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
Boom goes the dynamite!!1!
davidk1979
Olsen is a star this stinks
fsrasmd
I guess Freddie needs to buy a new house
Bruin1012
Wow!
Catuli Carl
Freddie to LA then I guess. Sadly.
ABStract
Whoa
This probably means FF to LA, damn!
Hexbreaker
Jeff Passan is a hack.
JeffreyChungus
true plus he looks like a fish and has almost zero baseball knowledge
YankeesBleacherCreature
His lockout coverage on ESPN+ was excellent. Hack or no hack, he’s gets first dibs on inside info which is what we all come here for.
bucsfan0004
Are you nuts? Passan was a patsy for the mlbpa
metsfan1992
Freeman to either Dodgers or Yankees?
Ducky Buckin Fent
Yanks.
HalosHeavenJJ
Freeman to the Dodgers just makes too much sense now.
MurderersRow27
Wow!!! Freeman is gone now for sure… but to where?
dsett75
Dodgers
Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman
Sorry guys. Money is everything.
nukeg
For both sides. Freddie is looking for a huge contract and the Braves can’t wait around as ST games start in 3 days. They opted for Plan B and I can’t blame them.
hrush28
Nice job Guardians.
Old York
Freeman is going to be a Tampa Bay Ray! Great fit!
fisher40
It was a nice ride for Freeman in atl. He’ll be dodger bound very soon.
Philly A's
Anyone want to buy my signed A’s memorabilia?
Old York
The Las Vegas A’s?
Yankee Clipper
San Jose A’s of Las Vegas?
48-team MLB
You guys forgot about the Sacramento A’s and the Austin A’s.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Got a Catfish Hunter jersey?
Philly A's
I do… plus Eckersley, Shantz and Blue.
bravos14
I’ve got Tom Brady’s last touchdown ball ……. oh wait.
Philly A's
Heard that ball was sold for $518k the day before he unretired. I feel like I got my use out of Chapman and Olson signed jerseys.
Lovetron
Braves probably the team I wanted to trade Oly to least… well, lets see what we got. I’m not optimistic
MetsFan22
If they weren’t so cheap the could have kept the C and Cusick the P. Probably spelled his name wrong
Appalachian_Outlaw
What has the baseball world come to when I agree with MetsFan22? SMH.
yanksallday
Yankees depression round table?
Yankee Clipper
Hi, my name is the Yankee Clipper & I am a Yankee fan. I used to have hope during the offseason…
Collective response: “Hi Yankee Clipper”
Ducky Buckin Fent
Nah.
Freeman hasn’t signed & Rizzo is a fine backup plan.
yanksallday
Fair, but the need for the round table stems from our consistently not capitalizing on opportunities to add the impact players that may put us over the hump / into legit title consideration.
Ducky Buckin Fent
Well, Freeman is just that type of player.
& even if we “settle” for Rizzo that’s an improvement. That would also be about 15 mil less in AAV which should be more than enough for some kind of starter.
yanksallday
Agreed re: Freeman obviating any need for a round table should he be brought in.
I’m a fan of Rizzo as well, and agree with your thoughts re: AAV, but it puts us right back into the position of needing to add that impact player.
Ducky Buckin Fent
I get it.
& oftentimes, I agree with Cash when he spreads the money around. It’s an interesting balance. But we really do need some more lineup balance. & 1B is the easiest place to do that.
But due to Taillon’s rehab, we also have a need in the rotation too. & then there’s catcher. So I can see advocating for Rizzo/SP > Freeman, instead.
But.
Right now, I am all about Freeman in pinstripes. He’s a true difference maker.
yanksallday
Agree on all counts. Given we’ve sat out the market for top-flight SP this year (unless I’m forgetting someone), I would be happy to see us bring in Freeman.
Yankee Clipper
Ducky, Yanks made an official offer to Freeman…..
yanksallday
Where are you seeing this?
Ducky Buckin Fent
Clip ain’t going to jerk our chains on this. If he he says he saw that somewhere, I fully believe it.
30 Parks
Anthopoulos is aggressive. Good move.
Cubsforever22
Goodbye Freddie
Mario93
I think he’s overrated and Freeman is the better pure hitter. They should’ve just brought back freeman.
Lovetron
Freddie definitely the overall better pure hitter. Oly a better slugger and younger. Braves likely have an extension agreement in hand to make this kind of deal
Pete'sView
It was the 6th year that AA couldn’t swallow. Even the 5th year might have been pretty bad.
Joseph Gonzalez
Omg cashman nooo !!!!! Now it’s literally freeman or bust !!!SMH
Rodneyjmarentette
All right now we wait for the tigers to shock everyone and sign Freddie Freeman lmfao jk
Old York
With the way the Twins are active this offseason, I wouldn’t be surprised they sign Freeman & Story.
Mario93
Texas Rangers
stymeedone
Nationals.
Bright Side
As a Yankees fan, the optimist in me says they’re going for Soto. I don’t see them spending big on Freeman.
Old York
I wouldn’t be surprised if that happens but they would need to wait until 2025 for that to happen. Anything could happen between then.
Bright Side
Why? Soto is a Boros client and the Nats are rebuilding right now. Plus the Yankees can put together a package of prospects that would be unrivaled.. Jasson, Volpe, King, etc,
Bruin1012
It would be rivaled if Washington made Soto available it’s not like the Yankees have the best farm lots of teams could easily compete and actually beat the Yankees if they wanted too.
Old York
Well, as it stands, they’ve been quite reluctant to deal most of their prospects for players. I remember back in the 90s and early 2000s, the Yankees would unload their farm system for some of the top players and sign other FAs. Times have changed for the Yankees. They want to win but they also want to count beans even more.
YourDreamGM
You don’t keep Bell and sign Cruz if you are rebuilding. Soto is there until the deadline at least. And if teams are reluctant to give up the prospects to get Reynolds I have a hard time seeing them giving enough to get Soto.
Bright Side
Name these teams and tell me their prospects.
Bright Side
Yes, but Soto’s got two years of control. If the Nats hold onto him, they’ll get next to nothing. They’ve had that experience with Harper, another Boras client.
Bruin1012
Brite Side if Soto was available three quarters of the teams should be available but just off the top of my head easily the Mariners could crush a Yankee offer if the Nats want quantity the Dodgers could beat a Yankee offer I would argue that potentially a Toronto offer fronted with Moreno would probably be huge offer. I highly doubt that the Nats make him available they still control him for three years they will probably continue to sign him long term. If they made him available the bidding war would be crazy.
stymeedone
And when Bryce left, they won it all. Worked out so bad for them.
Braves Butt-Head
Cant believe they put Langeleirs in the deal
YourDreamGM
They had to. Pache is only a top 100 prospect on websites.
Bruin1012
Would you of rather they of traded Harris for Olson? It was going to take one of either Harris or Langliers.
Lovetron
Wow Pache and Langaliers? That’s not a bad haul actually.. and then Estes and Cusick? We got 2 of 4 guys I would have really wanted for Olson, and 2 guys who I was also really interested in. Really good deal for us. If Braves werent losing Freddie over this, I’d think its a total win-win
bravesbkf
Gave up way too much. I’m ok with Pache going but not the catcher
60yearfan
I’m OK with all but Langeliers, but seems I recall he’s from the west coast so knowing that I understand. If Freeman is gone its disappointing but expected – I always thought he’d return to CA.. Am sure the Braves have done their homework on Olson. This ought to set up more signings by Atl. Would like to keep both Soler & Rosario, but Ozuna complicates that.
nodnarbz
This is literally the first time Alex has ever given up prospects in his tenure – which is quite impressive. That being said, I’m with on Langeliers – that one hurt – but I knew we’d have to eventually give up one to get one. My preference was just that it would be Contreras instead of Langeliers. And I wasn’t too high on Pache anymore so I was fine with that.
60yearfan
I expect Contreras was a first offer that was rejected. I’m on the fence on him as a keeper . He looks very much like a catching Heyward so far. I ‘ve seen Langeliers several times and he’s solid, Suspect Oakland saw the same.. I gave up on Pache last year – I don’t see him ever being a hitter.. The pitchers – really too early to know but I don’t think either side lost in this deal. Sorry to see Freeman go like this, but appears both sides drew a line in the sand.
Bill Kane
Braves will regret not signing Freeman. He was the heart of that team. He was their leader and that team could go off the rails without him.
getrealgone2
What a dumb comment.
braves fan 138
Damn love you Freddie, good luck.
Jdt8312
Did the Wilpons buy the Braves or something?
Bledcam
Wow. The A’s got paid, good for them. Here’s hoping JD and CY have been secretly building up an unreasonably remarkable offer for Freeman. Pretty sure he’s Dodger bound now.
southi
This is doubly sad.
I hate the fact this apparently means the end of the Freddie Freeman era in Atlanta and that the first braves catching prospect I’ve truly been excited about since Dale Murphy gets traded away.
Just a sad day
bravesfan
NOOOOOOO!!!!!
HBan22
I am absolutely shocked by this one. I truly believed that Freeman would inevitably return to Atlanta. I probably would have just spent the extra $30 million or so to bring Freddie back. He’s getting older, but he has shown absolutely no sign of slowing down and he is the face of the organization that just won a World Series with him. The Braves have very few (if any) really expensive long term contracts on the books, they easily could have afforded to sign Freeman and keep their prospects (and their team leader). Olson is only controlled for two more years and may well command an even bigger contract than Freeman when he hits free agency.
But as with everything, only time will tell if this was the right move or not. AA is clearly a very talented GM who hasn’t made many mistakes the past few years. So we shall see.
bravesnation nc
Unbelievable, that’s a haul. Guessing he doesn’t play the outfield.
Crew Fan
Welcome to Milwaukee Freddy…
In nurse follars
A 1, pasche, A 2, langeliers, A 6, cusick and a 14, estes.
stretch123
Wow A’s got a haul for Olson.
Friarguy19
No doubt! All highly regarded prospects. Time will tell, but I’d be satisfied were I an A’s fan.
rememberthecoop
I’m surprised they gave up Langleiers.
Tomahawk Takeover
Not a fan all the way around. You don’t make this trade unless it comes with an agreement tons contract extension. You don’t give up Langliers, who is gonna be an awesome catcher. You don’t let the face of the franchise go.
HBan22
Yeah, it’s a really questionable move in my opinion. Olson will probably command a larger contract than Freeman will in pretty short order. If I was AA, I would have just given Freeman the addition $30 million or so he was asking for, and then be able to keep all of those prospects. The Braves have a great system, but they just thinned it out quite a bit in one trade for a guy who might not produce any better than Freeman the next two years.
Tomahawk Takeover
Don’t get me wrong, Olson is awesome. But unless this trade comes with an long-term extension, it’s meaningless.
Dusty Baker's tooth pick.
Wow i h
Dusty Baker's tooth pick.
Whoops meant to say wow I hate this. Langelairs is gonna be a stud
kenny84
If they don’t sign him to a long term deal we’ll watch him walk in two years.
kwolf68
A great move for BOTH teams.
1-Atlanta is showing they are playing ball, not hoarding prospects when the chance to get a lefty masher just entering his prime becomes available. AA knows you win titles with proven MLB talent, not hopes/dreams prospects. He gave up a lot, but got a lot.
2-Oakland also did well. Pache hitting is a question, but even if he can develop into even a mediocre hitter his defense is electric. Shae is close to ready. They added two pitchers, in the lower minors, but one a recent #1 pick and another one who has started to blossom. Oakland farm was garbage, now it’s a lot better and with likely trades of Mannea and maybe Chapman it will only get better. They will suck this year, but in 3 years they may be back
southern bills fan
I mean is AA really letting Freeman walk?? I can’t picture Snit or any former Brave (Chipper) not convincing him to stay.. I like the earlier comment Olson DH!!
kwolf68
Do you understand how good of a defender Olson is? He should not DH.
Tomahawk Takeover
Do you realize how good a defender Freddie is? It’s very likely he’s gone but having them split time between DH and first would hardly be a bad thing
FSF
With all this talk of Freeman, can some analyze the trade for me? It seems like they got a lot less than they were asking the Yanks for but I really don’t know the Braves’ farm system. It seems like it was one 50-100 prospect and a few promising others???
Y4L
I’m with you. It seems like they got substantially less from the Braves. Oakland could have gotten that kind of package from the Yankees, without Volpe or Jasson included
kwolf68
They wanted Volpe and Yankees said no. I figure Yankees countered with Peraza and a bunch of extra pieces that were NOT as good as what Atlanta was offering.
As got 3 top 10 Braves prospects, including 1 and 2. Estes is just on the outside of the top 10. Pache and Shae may well be in the Oakland starting lineup this year and the two young arms (yea I know TINSTAAPP) are talented youngsters to groom.
HBan22
It was a very good haul for the Athletics in my opinion. Langeliers is one of the top catching prospects in the game and has future All-Star potential. Pache’s hitting is suspect, but he is a truly elite defender in CF and at worse will be a good fourth outfielder. Cusick was a recent first-round draft pick with future top of the rotation potential, and Estes is an underrated prospect who could turn into a future mid-rotation starter if he keeps progressing.
Yankee Clipper
Well we don’t know who the others were they were asking of the Yanks, but essentially they got two Braves prospects in the #50 range & #80 Range, while Volpe is #10, so much, much higher.
So, Yankees could’ve excluded Volpe & Dominguez and still met this same criteria of including two-top-100 prospects. The only difference I see is that Shea is a catcher…
Seems to me they tried the “Yankee Tax”
FSF
Thanks for the perspective, folks!
stymeedone
The Yankees could have beat the offer, but they didnt. But its nice to see Oakland confirm their opinion on Volpe.
Bruin1012
A similar Yankee trade would of been headlined by Dominguez. If the Yankees were unwilling to trade Dominguez then the Braves deal is probably better they might of been able to match with Peraza depending how the A’s felt about him but the Braves made a strong offer tough for the Yankees to match without Dominguez.
YourDreamGM
Exactly.They asked the Yankees and they said no. The Braves said yes. Catcher is top 50. Other 2 borderline 100. They must feel they have a solution for Pache so that increase their value of him.
kenny84
An extension of Riley and or Fried should be following, fingers crossed! Only way this makes sense.
mmyechoandbunnymen
This is the much better move for the Braves long term but fans will not like it. Freeman is… a bit overrated ~ Dodgers fan.
Hexbreaker
@mmyechoandbunnymen
Yeah, the best first baseman in the league is overrated.
Tomahawk Takeover
Yeah, nothing says overrated like being the best first baseman in the league. Dumb take
flamingbagofpoop
Way to prove his point.
Paulie Walnuts
Freddie Freeman’s veneers most disappointed.
yanks2323
Fire Cashman right now! What a bum
MasterShake
Enjoy him Braves fans! Goodness being an A’s fan is terrible sometimes (approx every 4-5 years or so)
VegasSDfan
Surprising move for sure. I’m jealous of this move for sure
Mlbfan78
So Oakland got a kings ransom back, the Braves 1st Pache 2nd Langeliers 6th Cusick and 14th Estes prospects according to mlb pipeline.
Let’s see how many of them pan out prospects are always suspects until they actually make it.
Braves&nolesfan
Langeliers hurts the most
kwolf68
Yankees could not top Shae unless they put Volpe in the mix. Atlanta identified their target and got it done. Olson actually is a better defender than Freddy and has more power, but he won’t hit for near the average of Freddy though he’s a lot younger.
Put it this way, Freeman and Olson (along with Vladdy) are the best 3 first basemen in baseball. If Freddy is 2 to Olson’s 3, then Atlanta did phenomenal augmenting losing #2.
kwolf68
You are exactly right. Well worth the risk for Atlanta. Oakland did get two guys that could play a role immediately and two lower level prospects with good pedigree.
Pache is not trash. His numbers in AAA were respectable and while his K rate was around 27% that shows he wasn’t totally outmatched. There is some talent in Pache and this was the time to go for it.
Asfan0780
Laureano, Pache combo in outfield will be fun to watch defensively at least . And they have Luis barerra and buddy reed who are great defenders but question is the hitting
SoCalBrave
The Braves wouldn’t have traded Langeliers unless they knew Freeman had already decided to move away.
Tomahawk Takeover
Not really related in my opinion but they definitely shouldn’t have traded him.
Goose
Passan just Tweeted:
Oakland will receive OF Cristian Pache, C Shea Langeliers, SP Ryan Cusick and SP Joey Estes, sources tell ESPN. Massive haul for Matt Olson, the Braves’ new first baseman.
Joseph Gonzalez
Cashman if you continue to be passive and players fly off the board and the team doesn’t improve in the ways it needs to be improved I don’t want to see you around next season period. You have gotten way more than enough chances
yanks2323
He needs to be gone! Bring in Epstein; Theo:)
teddyk
Good haul by the A’s. Olson is a solid bat, but no Freddie Freeman. Yes he is younger and gives the Braves a cheaper alternative to replace Freeman, but he isn’t the leader Freeman was in the locker room. Pache is over rated since he can’t hit, Lageliers I am u sure if he will be more than a back up Mlb catcher, but the two arms show some serious promise. Cusick will be a good (if not better) #2-3 type SP.
Dustyslambchops23
AA is the most ruthless, bold and best GM in the league.
Samuel
One of the best.
He learned his lesson “going for it” in Toronto where they got to the post-season and then had to spend 5 years rebuilding.
You want to see the opposite?…..
Look at what the White Sox did during the last trade deadline to completely upend their long rebuild.
braves fan 138
In his defense they informed him mid season he would not be retained as gm for the Jays, so basically he said screw it let’s go for it, I’m not going to be here next year anyways.
Dustyslambchops23
Nah that’s not true. He had the option to stay on as GM but left after Shapiro gave him a lashing over his deadline moves.
Shoguneye
AA was being replaced in TO with appointment of pos Shapiro so he went for it. He probably would have been more conservative had it not been his last year and that team had the potential to bring home the silverware..
CoreyC
Ya’ll have to understand… people upset about this aren’t because they think Olson isn’t worth the trade. He isn’t Freeman. I welcome Olson with open arms, but my heart hurts that Freddie is no longer a Brave.
Thank you Freedie, for all the memories and the World Series
Camden453
Unimpressive BB% from Langeliers as a 23 year old at AA is a red flag
DogDays2
Yeah, who cares about being a stud catcher.
If he doesn’t walk enough, he’s useless.
Unbelievable.
Bruin1012
The A’s already have a great defensive catcher. They also have a great offensive catcher in the minors but Soderstrom probably won’t be a catcher long term but Soderstrom’s offensive potential is huge.
JoeBrady
That’s one of the fun parts of the trade. Murphy will be traded for more goodies next year (hopefully to the RS).
Bright Side
I wonder if Joey Estes is Shawn’s son,
YourDreamGM
A all day for A’s. What a haul. A fantastic Catching prospect who is mlb ready. 2 potential difference making pitchers. Pache is just bonus.
C for Braves. They gave up a ton but for a stud who was in demand. Pretty much did what was necessary to get him. Don’t consider Pache a loss. They failed to develop him so his only value was as a trade chip which they used. The money saved by not paying Freeman is a big win.
Joeyg2033
You can’t be as ignorant as you sound. Didn’t develop Pache like they failed to develop Acuna. Albies. Riley and Fried? Show me a team with a better track record developing talent. Pache is a fringe prospect who simply can’t hit. Langeliers is a very good prospect who is already 24 years old. Not much of a higher ceiling. But Olson is a straight up stud who will immensely improve the Braves lineup.And he’s controllable for the next two years. You make that trade every single day and twice on Sundays if your the Braves.
YourDreamGM
Failing to develop Pache has nothing to do with other successfully developed prospects. Why you you went there is on you.
You Can Put It In The Books
Freeman to the Mets, Polar Bear to DH.
Dusty Baker's tooth pick.
There goes the farm. Our window is closing.
YourDreamGM
Until Acuna Albies are free agents the window is open.
jakec77
I’m shocked Braves let Freeman go.
Seemed like the kind of guy and situation in which you’d be willing to overpay a little bit to keep your player.
I’m curious to see what Freeman ends up with on the open market.
barryr
On paper, this is a good move for the Braves and probably for the A’s too. Of course, pennants aren’t won on paper (I’m a Mets fan, so I am very familiar with that) and if I was a Braves fan, losing Freddie Freeman would have me depressed. As a Mets fan, I will be thrilled to not have to face him with the game on the line as often as we had to. He was the heart and soul of the Braves, you shouldn’t let that guy leave.
HalosHeavenJJ
MLBTR writers, I think you all do a great job here.
I’d really appreciate a recap of all the talent Oakland adds in this sell off as the season gets closer. So many deals happening all at once, the prospects are likely to get overlooked.
You Can Put It In The Books
“pAcHe CaN’t HiT / hAs nO tRaDe VaLuE!”
Plus Langeliers!!! Wow.
Braves fans will be clutching their Freddie Freeman bobbleheads tonight in bed.
Appalachian_Outlaw
Not me. I’ll be putting my AA bobblehead in the microwave and joyously watching it melt.
Adampunk13
Pretty much closed the door for freeman.
Dan Rogers
This just means ozuna to the outfield and Freddie and Olsen will split 1B and DH duties. There’s no way freeman leaves….right? Please tell me I’m right.
RobM
Need to know the dollar numbers in Freeman’s next deal before assessing this.
Prospects carry real and assigned value, higher than ever in today’s game, and the Braves traded four prospects, two of which are global top-100 prospects. Worrying about how Freeman might perform in year 6 of a deal when you’re a win-now organization, and trading away prospect capital that could be used either directly by the team, or indirectly to acquire talent, is very much part of the equation. The dollar value gap between the Braves final offer and what Freeman signs for elsewhere will have to be considered once known. That doesn’t even touch upon the business and marketing aspect of Freeman’s value to the Braves. He obviously is no longer the new Chipper Jones.
Not saying this was the wrong move by the Braves, but need more info.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Somehow the A’s traded Olson to the World Champion Atlanta ball club and did not get Harris, Waters, Muller or Wright along with Shea.
This was a GREAT deal, an A+, for Atlanta and a poor one for the A’s, a C-, except that Atlanta fans must find it bittersweet assuming that Freeman is gone. What if he is NOT?
Dan Rogers
Oakland got the Braves 21 first rounder and their, right up until about a year ago, top prospect, who is still probably the best defensive outfielder in the minors. I wouldn’t say Oakland did poorly at all
roiste
Pache can’t hit, and has shown no signs of improving. He’s a fourth outfielder/defensive replacement at this point. The A’s didn’t get much in this trade besides Shea
JoeBrady
You could be right, but basing you opinion on 67 ABs at age 22 sounds a lot premature, imo. It looks like he had a 119 OPS+ in AA at age 20, and 100 in AAA at age 22.
I’d love to see him flipped to the RS.
Cohens_Wallet
Like I said before, the Braves always figure it out. Nice pickup.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Let’s just say Tsutsugo is not worried about the Pirates signing Freddie.
Jean Matrac
I don’t think this guarantees Freeman to LA. Rumors about the Dodgers interest are probably based on, what I assume, is an attempt to get Freeman on a short deal with a high AAV, which is the kind of deal they seem to like. I think Freeman wants more years than LA will offer.
As to Langeliers, he might be good, but there’s no guarantee he will be, let alone a Buster Posey/Hall of Fame, type as someone posted. As usual, fans tend to overvalue prospects.
SaiEnder14
I am no longer “romantic” about baseball.
basquiat
Ha ha. So much for the Guardian rumors. Teams that want to win know how to pull the trigger.
stymeedone
Wait for it…..Guardians to sign Freeman.
ironcitie
Should of got Chapman top
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
lol right because braves dont have a 3rd baseman thats better. oh, wait.
DogDays2
Huh? Chapman is a stud. Braves can just move Riley to another position.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
You two deserve each other. lol idiots
Braves&nolesfan
Acuna just became new franchise face of Braves
BeeVeeTee
With current contracts along with going over the luxury tax threshold the Dodgers estimated payroll with the tax bills is already at $292,973,828. Lets say the Dodgers get lucky with the MLB suspends Trevor Bauer and don’t have to pay him this year where that save them $34,000,000.00. In the meantime, the Dodgers still need to replace him in the rotation along with getting a closer, but this is me to being a realist. More importantly the Dodgers should worry about paying Trea Turner or Cody Bellinger in the future rather than dishing out $25 to $33 million a season for Freeman.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
Dodgers dont care about payroll, they try to buy a title every year
theodore glass
Great deal for the Braves.
hogansgoat
Pache is JBJ and they still have Waters.
Olson is FF just not an icon.
They still have Strider, Elder, and Muller.
Must have thought Contreras is about ready.
Braves&nolesfan
Harris is above Waters by a good bit
bravesnation nc
Don’t get me wrong, Olson is good I mean Really good. But it’s Freddie Freeman y’all. I know he was bothered about the contract situation last year and I can see it on the ownership side with all the uncertainty with revenue in a COVID-19 climate. But come on he was THE guy on your roster. Truly saddened by this. Loved seeing 5 post at first base in Truist and the story of Chipper saving him on a quad in the dead of winter. Sad day in Braves Country. But like Olson in a Braves jersey.
Jean Matrac
Braves fans need to face the reality that Freeman is gone. The Braves haven’t spent a lot of money in the past, so the idea that the Braves will now spend the money to keep Freeman, with him and Olson sharing 1B/DH duties, is just silly.
Campvol
This is an absolute disaster. How can AA just kick Freddie in rear end. Time to send AA packing and get Freddie back.
Wisdom shared
What fans don’t realize is baseball is like a game of dominos. Yes, say the Braves sign Freeman for six years at 35M plus a season. As in dominos, they start falling due to lack of budget space and which young Brave do they bid farewell to and have to trade, since they can’t afford another 20 – 30M contract for them?. Do they say goodbye to Fried, Anderson, Riley, Acuna, because money is finite – not infinite.. It may appear to balance in the here and now, but two years from now when players exhaust arbitration and enter free agency, teams must bid adieu to players all the time, even though they wanted to keep them. I had to laugh at the Freeman to Toronto rumors and exactly which of Vlad, Bichette, etc do the Jays say farewell to in 2024, since the 30 M for Freeman signs their fate. The Yankees are in the same boat and if they sign Freeman, they say goodbye to Judge, since they too aren’t an endless money tree. Even the Mets and Dodgers may throw 300M around like candy, but it always comes back to haunt owners that never have foresight into the future..
Joeyg2033
Kick him in the rear end? Send him packing? Dude Freeman is going to be $180 richer in a day or two.This is a business decision.It is about fiscal responsibility for the teams sake. We don’t want a Ryan Howard situation in Atlanta.
RobM
The Olson trade either means that Freeman has told the Braves he’s not returning, or it’s a case of the Braves telling Freeman they’ve made a decision and moved on. Nonzero chance the Braves could still sign Freeman with the DH now in play and Olson’s contract still reasonable, but Freeman is strong on both sides of the ball. Paying full price for him only to send him to DH doesn’t make sense. Not to mention, Freeman likely doesn’t have an interest in being just a DH.
Freeman’s preference may have been to return to the Braves, but with the Braves likely out of the picture, Freeman may now have even more offers to consider as teams perhaps reticent to bid on his services may now step forward, and emotionally, he may be open to considering them with the Braves out of the picture.
SoCalBrave
Now AA has to bring back Soler and Rosario.
manos
Makes sense. Matt is a Georgia guy. He’s a much more affordable alternate to Freddie who was leaving anyways. The Athletics get some great pieces too.
Eovaldismemes
bro the a’s finally did a decent trade for once :O
hogansgoat
Ok, so they still have Waters AND Harris and at least 3 top pitching prospects and Contreras. What’s not to like about this except for sentimentally.
Deleted Userr
All the Padres fans who thought they would get Olson for a similar package to the one the A’s just got plus the A’s taking Hosmer and acted like they were doing the A’s some kind of favor with that offer because the A’s weren’t going to be able to afford to keep Olson have got some ‘splainin’ to do…
UGA_Steve
Bold move by Atlanta, but Freddie pretty much forced their hand. I think this signals the Braves going all in and I feel like there are more trades/signings coming. Now I am really interested in what comes next.
Trade for Frazier possibly?
Correa is not likely and risks blowing up that team chemistry, but if Swanson isn’t willing to sign a reasonable extension and is looking for $15m+ per year or something, then Correa might be in play and move Swanson.
I did not think the Braves offseason catcher moves indicated they were definitely going to trade either Contreras or Langeliers, but it certainly looks like they were hedging their bets on the possibility.
UGA_Steve
Oops. I meant Reynolds. Trade for Reynolds.
YourDreamGM
I don’t think so. They lost a 1b and replaced him. Nothing more. No Correa or Reynolds. No mega deals or trades. Sign a couple 10 million ish or less outfielders like the owns they got at trade deadline.
blazinventura
Keep Swanson, can’t replace that gritty, nonstop hussle and chemistry. Would never pay that much for Correa (that he’s rumored to be asking), numerous reasons for me personally.
jvent
WOW, they didn’t even wait for Freeman
JoeBrady
That looks like a haul and a half for Oakland. Bad pro start by Pache, but the minor league K/W numbers, while weak, don’t look fatal. Langeliers looks like a good pro. Estes looks like a solid #4-5 type, or good BP piece. Cusick looks like a solid #3+.
Great trade for Oakland.
LordD99
What’s interesting is it appears the A’s are doing a full rebuild. That’s not often their path. They kind of do partial rebuilds, and they often like trading for MLB talent. I wonder if this is being driven by the likelihood of a new park, so they’re building a talent base that’ll be around in 3-5 years, and more willing to sacrifice wins the next couple seasons.
JoeBrady
I think I spoke with someone about this before the stoppage. Assuming that the park is for real, this is how they should be doing it. Try to build to .500 with some kids and small payroll, and then move a ton of money just before the new joint opens, to build some excitement.
That said, and just imho, this looks like a really good package. I think you can change your MO depending on the return.
YourDreamGM
Could be a quick turnaround. Catcher is mlb ready. 1 pitcher from mets as well. Pache is besides bat which they believe they can fix, we will see.
marklar24
Must mean that Braves are gonna try to keep Rosario. Plus, Braves need money to extend Fried, Soroka and Riley.
UGA_Steve
And possibly Anderson soon. They also have to figure out SS soon, as Swanson hasn’t seemed to be keen on signing an extension.
YourDreamGM
I wouldn’t read anything into other than they needed a impact 1b and it was either freeman or olsen. That’s it. Obviously they will sign a couple outfielders.
justdadamaja
If you were going to replace Freeman, you can easily have signed Rizzo for a 1/10th of what Freeman would cost. AND keep your catcher of the future….
Trading a stud catcher with 6 YOC + more for a stud 1B with 2 YOC is just bad baseball business.
now Oakland, if they wish, can simply sign Rizzo + replace Olsen w/o giving up a draft pick…
Oakland can also trade for some buy low candidates who have upside like Hosmer (3/36 left ), Dom Smith ( NYM ), JD Davis ( NYM ), Luke Voight ( NYY )
I’m baffled
bhambrave
Hosmer has 4/59 left, I think.
Mario93
Agree. Rizzo especially for a year.. A true professional hitter, who can still turn on a fastball and is still a tough out. To me Olson is definitely overrated.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
@mario93 trash take. muted
jim stem
I think Smith stays with the Mets and becomes the full time 1B with Alonso shifting to DH and part time 1B.
Davis hasn’t played 1B in half a decade.
Oakland has a knack for fielding winners with guys that are homegrown or acquired very cheaply. Respect that, too. I’d look at teams who have 1B blocked like Cincinnati.
logo69
No indication that Shea will ever be a stud catcher. Let’s pump the brakes a little bit lol. It was a good trade both ways
YourDreamGM
@justdadamaja disagree just about with everything. Rizzo wont be 1/10 the cost of freeman. 1/2 to a 1/3 at best. A stud catching prospect. I think he will be good but you never truly know.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
the only baffling thing here is your joke of a take comparing rizzo to olson
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
@justdadamaja this is a trash take.. muted so i dont have to see any more of your nonsense
flamingbagofpoop
I’m sure they don’t care if you’re so insecure that you can’t read differing opinions, you don’t need to tell them.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
its asinine
Neil G
Freeman would not budge on the sixth year apparently. I hate losing Langliers however
jim stem
Why can’t they roster both Freeman AND Olson?
I still hate the dh in the NL…
bhambrave
@Jim: I hope they do.
sigdawg25
I can always count on my Oakland A’s to disappoint and piss off their fans.
JoeBrady
I can’t imagine getting much more than they did. Two definite top-100 players, and two guys that could sneak into top-100 in a year or two.
bhambrave
I’m wondering if the Nats signed Cruz partly to keep him away from LA and push them harder to get Freddie.
yankee766766
Ducky 100% right…just sign Freeman….extend Judge….we have $50M coming off the books next year,,,,Trade Gleyber, move DJ back to his natural gold glove position…..Infield of Freeman, DJ, Kiner-Falefa, Donaldson……good ??? Then trade Voit…..
Dorothy_Mantooth
The Yankees are at $242M right now against the CBT. There’s no way Cashman is going to add another $30M+ to that number unless he is able to move a sizable amount of existing salary. Even if $50M comes off the books next year, adding Freeman for $30M+ for 5 years all but guarantees they don’t re-sign Judge as they’ll be in CBT jail for the next 4-5 seasons.
Yankee Clipper
Yankees just made an offer to Freeman! Let’s see if he accepts.
yankee766766
Clipper….where did you hear or see that….about a Yankee offer I mean ?
Yankee Clipper
Uh, I hate to write this but….. it was reported (or fabricated) by John Heyman on the Tweeter
RobM
Well, it’s better than Bob Nightengale.
yankee766766
Yeah..don’t blame you for hating to write about a Heyman “report”
Yankee Clipper
If it were Bob he would’ve made up the signed deal just to be the first to push it out….. probably forged the signatures too.
Edp007
Ain’t that a Cusick in the tEstes
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
Swing and a miss.
jbeerj
Impossible that this is the best package offered.
windmill_noise_causes_cancer
How so? All the A’s fans tell me that Shea is the next Buster Posey, the 2 pitchers are “game changers,” etc.
Get Off My Mound
Welp. Was dreading this, gotta say I am very surprised its Atlanta he went, the thought of Freddie Freeman in another uniform is still weird for me.
JimmyForum
Braves should have kept the prospects and just signed Rizzo for the two years Olson will ultimately be in ATL. He would have easily replaced Freddie as a fan favorite in no time.
YourDreamGM
Except rizzo wants way more than 2 years
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
rizzo sucks, so no
yankee766766
As much as I don’t care for long term deals….5+ years….Freeman is a bit of an iron man…..and he plays at a position that I believe yields less injuries than others…I would sign him up for 6 years if need be….$195M. Yankees get him with that offer !! My opinion !
Old York
I still like Tampa getting Freeman.
Rsox
Freeman to the Dodgers seems fairly logical now. Though i wonder, now that teams know Atlanta is out and Olson is off the market if the teams pursuing him will turn to Freeman
Say Hey Now Kid
Freeman to the Mets who trade Alonso for a haul
Mario93
I think the Atheltics got a really nice deal for Olson. They’re getting some extremely talented youngsters, add the other youngster and the depth piece they got back for the Bassit deal. Athletics overall added some really respectable prospects for their future. And they may not be done moving guys… and you never really know with the athletics.. they’re just always a tough team to go against. They’ll trade half the team yet still find ways to substitute those guys and somehow compete.
Timothy Salahi
A’s got a hall know wonder nobody else would give them that asking price…
TradeAcuna
Another thing to consider is the Braves are saving lots of money here. This puts them back in the free agent market hopefully.
Not sure if they will be in the trade market now that they traded their top prospects. Still hoping for Reynolds or Marte to offset the loss of Freeman
kingbum
Losing Freeman just sucks but you got the perfect replacement in Matt Olson. It’s AA just let him go and if you keep Soler and Rosario, Riley continues to improve, and Acuna heals this will be one of the deepest lineups in baseball. Some dark horse big market team gonna make LA over spend. I can see the Padres driving up the price just to be a pain in the ass to LA.
micg
Everyone keeps going on about losing Langeliers but the catching position is the most unpredictable for prospects. If they start out as good hitters everyone starts shouting to move them from the catching position so they can stay healthy and get more AB’s. (Atlanta has already been through this with McCann and Lopez.) At another position their offensive numbers don’t look as good!
dazedatnoon
now with the Braves out of the running for Freeman, LA should offer about $50m less on the entire contract than the previous offer. Claim lack of competition at that price point and if Freeman whines just tell him “well you know how that loyalty stuff goes….”
bravesnation nc
You know, I just had to remind myself that I go hard and spend my OWN money to enjoy the team name on front of the jersey and appreciate what the name on the back does to make the front win ballgames. This is my childhood team been watching over 30 years. Went to the World Series this year and watched them crowned champions. Braves fans will deeply miss Freddie but I have to give AA credit. Olson is no slouch dude is a really good player. Now AA has to fill out the rest of the roster. We still need a centerfielder. Another Starter too.
bobtillman
So the Pirates are still in on Freddie, then.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
A’s got a better deal for Olson than they did for Bassitt.
Great move by the Braves. Hard watching the face of the franchise walk, but I honestly applaud them for sticking to their guns on this one. In 6 years, I highly doubt Freeman is as productive, so a large part of the $30M for that year would have been just wasted.
dano
Freddie gave up his arbitration years for a team friendly contract.
Then the Braves treated their home town, home grown MF-MVP with pettiness over an extra year in his contract.
Why should any ball player ever give up his arbitration years again, if the team won’t reciprocate after the player exceeds all expectations during that team friendly contract and even excels as one of the best in the game?
flamingbagofpoop
He didn’t, “give up” those years. He signed a contract for guaranteed money instead of taking a risk early in his career. No one forced him to do so. Would he give the money back if he sucked? No, he would not. So why should a team feel compelled to give him more if he’s good? This is such a lazy take.
MarlinsFanBase
If it’s true that the Braves didn’t give Freddie a heads up about this trade, and this was their way of letting Freddie know that he’s gone (without considering having both), it’s about as classless an organizational move I’ve seen in all my life of watching baseball.
I hope that that rumor is not true.
bravegator
I read they didn’t want it to leak out and get other teams interested in Olsen to drive up the price. Not sure if that’s true or not
Sadface
Disappointed but not surprised. Now both the Braves and Freeman will tell their excuses why that signing didn’t happen.
geoffb1982
I want John Fisher to skydive without a parachute today
Season over
for my good move, olson younger and better numbers hopefully freeman stays in atlanta but if it doesn’t happen olson is a good acquisition
jessaumodesto
As I’ve said for weeks the A’s always go quantity over quality
HoosierBravo1989
I seem to recall a trade like this happening in 2007 and that ended well. Just saying.
angt222
Called it. Knew ATL would trade for Olson before Freeman signed.
Mr. Gray
That’s life as an mlb fan. Gotta get used to it.
I’ve always loved Freddie but it’s a business and good businessmen look down the road. If it had to happen, this is the way you want it – acquire up-and-coming talent before you let the proven producer go.
I wish Olson nothing but the best. A fast, hot start in the ATL would win the hearts of Freeman fans.
Deleted Userr
Now they better not keep Sean Manaea and Matt Chapman to “Give the fans someone to root for” or because “You have to put a good product on the field.” The A’s aren’t going to put a good product on the field with or without Chapman and Manaea.
Mr. Gray
Never heard of a player who didn’t love playing in ATL and Olson’s an ATL native. This move’s full of good potential. Acuna’s back in May, you’ve gotta love the Braves’ roster from top to bottom!
Toms Changeup
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Steve cohen makes a run at Freeman now
Dorothy_Mantooth
Who was posting that Oakland was not going to sell off their players this year? Bassitt gone, Olson gone and more to come. I think you owe us an “I was wrong”.
HistoryBelongstotheVictorsInArms
NL EAST Pitching has checked into the Chat
AL WEST Pitching has left the chat…
GarryHarris
Oakland isn’t finished.
Fred McGriff
Very sad to see Freddie go, however, if he wanted to be a Brave then he should’ve signed for 5 and proven he was worth 6. It shouldn’t have been about the money if he loves the club so much. Very sad to see Langeliers go too.
I think Oakland got a really good deal, 4 players for 1 player for me is an overpay, Olson is good, but is he worth that much? Not for me.
Freeman has hit .300 or above for 50% of his career, Olson I doubt will hit .300 ever. So do you take the contact/power guy, or just the power guy in Olson. The other thing is that Freeman is as clutch as there can be. eg. Home run off Josh Hader when it really mattered. I am sure Seitzer will improve Olson a lot, but still so sad to see Freddie go. I’ll always see him as a Brave no matter where he plays.
SportsFan0000
As I predicted, Cashman and Yankees would “lowball” the A’s and lose out on Olson.
It has been a recent pattern with the Yankees.
bravesnation nc
Crime dog, valid points all the way around. It takes 2 to make something happen in any deal, who knows where the disconnect was. AA got a really good player in Olson. Don’t know if it was Freddie or his agents but the other teams he is linked too I will say it again, in ATL it was HIS team period! Even players on the team said such. Every other team he is a star player piece. Most players don’t get that chance in today’s game. 5 yrs 27 plus AAV he would have been highest paid 1B.
Poster formerly known as . . .
If Hal ponies up to acquire Freeman I’ll be very surprised. I think bringing back Rizzo is more likely, and I’m okay with that, especially if they acquire Willson Contreras, his old teammate, to further strengthen the offense, which was a weakness last year.
I gather that a lot of Yankee fans are glad to see Gary Sanchez gone. I’ve seen a lot of bashing of his skills behind the dish. What I have to ask though, is how did the Yankee pitching staff manage to rank 4th in fWAR since he took over the starting catcher duties in 2017 if he was that bad a receiver? I’m not sure how that could’ve worked.
lasershow7
Braves made a trade similar to this 2007 that didn’t work out very well either. Trading organizational depth for 2 years of control vs. locking down the center piece of your team, your team leader, MVP and most consistent player day in and day out is frustrating as a fan. Sad that team/player loyalty is a thing of the past.
Mr. Gray
It never was a thing.