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Looking At The Padres’ Rotation Options

By Darragh McDonald | January 12, 2023 at 8:48pm CDT

The Padres have been quite aggressive in recent years on all fronts, from signing free agents to trading for stars and extending their own players. That has shot their budget up to record heights, with Roster Resource currently estimating their payroll at $250MM. Up until a few years ago, they had only barely nudged past the $100MM mark, jumping to $174MM in 2021 and $211MM last year, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts.

Despite all that aggression, they’re going into the season with uncertainty in their rotation, both in the short-term and long-term. They should have a strong front three this year in Joe Musgrove, Yu Darvish and Blake Snell. That leaves two question marks at the back, since Mike Clevinger and Sean Manaea reached free agency and signed elsewhere. Darvish and Snell are both slated to reach free agency after this year, opening up more holes in the future. MacKenzie Gore’s inclusion in the Juan Soto trade also weakened the future outlook. So, who do they have on hand to step up and take these jobs? Let’s take a look at the candidates.

Nick Martinez

Martinez, 32, spent four seasons in Japan and parlayed that into a four-year deal with the Padres going into 2022, a deal that allowed him to opt out after each season. Last year was a mixed bag for Martinez, as he logged 106 1/3 innings with a 3.47 ERA. That’s solid production overall but it came in the form of a 4.30 ERA over 52 1/3 innings as a starter and a 2.67 mark in 54 innings as a reliever.

Martinez opted out and re-signed with the club on another deal, this time on a three-year pact. The details are unusually complex as there are plenty of incentives, as well as a dual club/player option structure. Whether he can find better results as a starter this time around remains to be seen. It’s certainly a risk for the Friars but at least it seems he comes with the floor of helping out the bullpen.

Should Martinez truly establish himself as a starter, the club will be able to keep him around. Martinez will get paid a $10MM base salary this year and the team will then have to decide whether or not to trigger two $16MM club options for 2024 and 2025, essentially a two-year, $32MM extension. That affords them a bit more control over his future than his previous opt-out laden deal. However, if Martinez does not have a successful campaign and they turn down that option, he will get to decide whether or not to trigger two player options valued at $8MM each, essentially a two-year, $16MM extension. That gives the Friars upside and downside potential in the pact. Those dollar figures can also reportedly change based on incentives, though the exact details aren’t known.

Seth Lugo

Lugo, 33, is a somewhat similar situation to Martinez, as he could potentially wind up in the rotation or in the bullpen. He made 23 starts in 2017-18 but only seven since, largely working as a reliever. That move was at least partially motivated by a “slight” tear that was discovered in his right ulnar collateral ligament in 2017.

Regardless, Lugo has served as an effective reliever since then, posting a 3.56 ERA over the past two years, and there’s some hope that his five-pitch mix can help him transition back into a rotation. It’s another risky move that the Padres were willing to take, giving Lugo two years and $15MM, with Lugo able to opt-out after the first. He hasn’t topped 80 innings in a season since 2018 and it’s hard to know how smooth this switch will be.

If it goes well, there won’t be any long-term upside for the club, since Lugo will make a $7.5MM salary but can opt out of the same figure for 2024. If the experiment works, he’s likely to return to free agency and find a larger guarantee. If it fails, the Padres will still be on the hook for another season.

Adrián Morejón

Morejón, 24 in February, has long been one of the most exciting pitching prospects in the league. Baseball America placed him on their top 100 list for five straight years beginning in 2017. Various injuries slowed him during his ascent to the majors and he’s yet to even pitch 70 official innings in any season of his career, majors or minors or combined.

Tommy John surgery in April of 2021 wiped out most of that season. He returned to health in 2022 but pitched in relief. The club reportedly still views him as a starter but he will likely have workload concerns this year. Between the majors and the minors last year, he logged 47 1/3 frames. He should be able to push that up now that he’s further removed from the surgery, but getting to a full starter’s workload would be a lot to ask. He has just over three years of MLB service time now, giving him the ability to provide some long-term help to the club’s rotation if he stays healthy and makes good on his prospect pedigree in 2023.

Jay Groome

Groome, 24, was a 12th overall pick of the Red Sox in 2016. He was once a highly-touted prospect but has hit various speed bumps. Tommy John surgery wiped out his 2018 and most of his 2019, which was followed by the minors being canceled by the pandemic in 2020. He has since returned to health and posted decent results but with some of the prospect shine having worn off.

In 2022, which included a trade to the Padres in the Eric Hosmer deal, he pitched 144 innings between Double-A and Triple-A. The 3.44 ERA is nice, but his 22.8% strikeout rate is right around average and his 10.4% walk rate was on the concerning side. He’s yet to reach the majors and arguably has the greatest chance to provide future value to the club with his six seasons of control and one remaining option year.

Brent Honeywell Jr.

Honeywell, 28 in March, is also a former top prospect. A Rays draftee, he was on BA’s top 100 in five straight seasons from 2016-20. Similar to Morejón and Groome, injuries have prevented him from reaching his potential thus far. Tommy John surgery in 2018 put him on the shelf and he has dealt with various setbacks since then. He was healthy enough to toss 86 innings in 2021 between Tampa Bay and Triple-A Durham, with the club then dealing him to Oakland. However, more injury setbacks resulted in just 20 1/3 minor league innings for the A’s last year.

Honeywell seems to be healthy again at the moment, as he’s tossed 28 innings in the Dominican Winter League. His 0.96 ERA in that time seems to have been enough to impress the Padres, as they signed him to their 40-man roster last week. It would make for a terrific bounceback story if he were to finally put it all together, but it’s hard to bank on him after hardly pitching in the past five years. He still has less than a year of service time, giving the Padres plenty of upside if it all clicks, but Honeywell is also out of options and will have to produce in the big leagues right away to hang onto his roster spot.

Reiss Knehr/Pedro Avila/Ryan Weathers

These three are all on the 40-man roster and warrant a mention, though they are unlikely to be called upon except in an emergency. All three of them have gotten some big league time in recent seasons, getting fairly brief showings in swing roles. Weathers probably has the most upside of the trio since he’s just 23 whereas the others are going into their respective age-26 seasons. Weathers was considered a top 100 prospect going into 2021 but he has a 5.49 ERA in the big leagues so far and posted a 6.73 ERA in 123 Triple-A innings last year, getting bumped to the bullpen as the season wore on.

Wilmer Font

Font, 33 in May, is a real wild card. He was a journeyman in the majors for many years but went to Korea to play in the KBO in 2021. Over the last two years, he’s been pitching at an ace level for the SSG Landers. He made 25 starts in 2021 with a 3.46 ERA and then 28 starts last year with a 2.69 mark. In that latter season, he got strikeouts at a 23.3% rate, walking only 4.7% of batters faced and he got ground balls on 51.6% of balls in play.

Success overseas doesn’t always translate to success in the majors, but Font wouldn’t be the first pitcher to underwhelm in North America but then return after a breakout elsewhere, with Miles Mikolas and Merrill Kelly some of the recent examples. Font isn’t currently on the 40-man and will have to earn his way back into the mix but he will be an interesting one to watch.

Julio Teheran/Aaron Brooks

These two veterans have also been brought aboard on minor league deals. Teheran spent 2022 in Indy ball and the Mexican League, posting some decent numbers in 13 starts between various clubs. He then went to the Dominican for winter ball and has posted a 3.49 ERA through eight starts there. He had a solid run with the Braves earlier in his career but got lit up in 2020 with a 10.05 ERA and then was injured for most of 2021.

Brooks was great in the KBO in 2020 and 2021, posting a 2.79 ERA over 36 starts in that time. However, his attempted return to the majors didn’t go well. He made five relief appearances for the Cardinals with a 7.71 ERA and got outrighted to the minors. In 15 Triple-A appearances, 13 starts, his ERA was 5.56.

All told, the Padres have lots of options here but all of them have question marks. There’s a handful of faded prospects who still need to put injury concerns in the rearview mirror and another handful of veteran swingmen who still might end up better suited to the bullpen than the rotation. Musgrove-Darvish-Snell gives them a strong front three, meaning the Padres only really need a couple of these guys to step up. On the other hand, they are one injury away from someone in this group suddenly being in the #3 slot.

The Padres could always supplement their staff between now and Opening Day, but recent reporting has suggested they don’t have much more payroll space to work with. If they want to go the trade route, there are certainly options, such as the Marlins having plenty of arms available and the Brewers perhaps in a similar boat.

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59 Comments

  1. Gwynning

    2 years ago

    How much for the Chris Sale in the window?

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    • Henry Silvestre

      2 years ago

      Chris Sale is an awful Contract huge – value..RedSox would have to eat 80% of it and maybe a lowish prospect like Efrain Contreras to Red Sox .. but dude has like 3 or 4 yrs left on huge $$ next to Stras probably the worst contract going in baseball.. Hard Pass

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      • Gwynning

        2 years ago

        Henry- my 2 cents says we could get Sale cheap, and he’s a potential Game 1, 2 or 3 starter if healthy. He still deals filth galore; his availability remains the only question.

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      • BaseballisLife

        2 years ago

        Red Sox would have to eat 100% of Sales contract if they expected a return.

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        • cadagan

          2 years ago

          Sale could also be traded for other bad contracts. Ozuna, stras, price, madbum, Corbin, etc. But challenge trades are rare.

          Reply
    • Braves4Ever2025

      2 years ago

      I hear Bauer is available

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      • Moneyballer

        2 years ago

        Who?

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    • Deleted Userrr

      2 years ago

      Baseball Trade Values says the Red Sox would have to pay $13m of Sale’s contract to move him for an org filler. More if they want an actual prospect in return. Idk if their valuation is 100% accurate, but I do agree that his contract is underwater. Only people who think Sale could be traded without the Red Sox attaching money/prospects are Red Sox homers.

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  2. PaulyMidwest

    2 years ago

    I bet Weathers breaks out this year. Calling it now.

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    • Henry Silvestre

      2 years ago

      Ryan just got married and been working his ass off this offseason ..mid 90’s velo if he doesn’t Start I can see him as a lefty version of Martinez (2022) jack of all traits..dominating from the BP

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      • boblowlaw2

        2 years ago

        I believe the phrase you are looking for is “jack of all trades”

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    • vtadave

      2 years ago

      Weathers hasn’t been good in four years. Bit of a stretch to think he breaks out.

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      • PaulyMidwest

        2 years ago

        He is young and working very hard. At 23 most guys are in High A or Double A. He got brought up too soon. I feel he finds his footing this year.

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      • damascusj

        2 years ago

        Sept his debut was playoffs 2020 as a 20 year old. And he was very good for 2020 and the first part of 2021, so to say he’s been bad for 4 years is incorrect

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  3. spectaculer187

    2 years ago

    Ok I have heard conflicting reports………….Is Ha-Seong Kim a free Agent after his current 4 year contract ends or is he still controllable for 2 more years through Arbitration?

    Last year Spotrac had him as a free agent after 2024 but now they have changed it to 2 more years of control through Arbitration

    If he still has 4 years of control that is very valuable for a guy coming off a 5.1 WAR season

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    • Henry Silvestre

      2 years ago

      I saw the same thing

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    • ChrisSki

      2 years ago

      There is still four years of control. The Padres have a contract for his pay in place for the next two years.

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    • Steve Adams

      2 years ago

      He’s a free agent after his contract expires.

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    • damascusj

      2 years ago

      Kim has 3 years of control, technically

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    • shyzer

      2 years ago

      SD has two more guaranteed years with the potential of a third year in 2025, which is a mutual option. If either Kim or SD declines the 2025 option, then he’s a FA that year.

      Since he came over via Posting System, the Padres don’t get the full 6 years of control like most teams do with players or like LAA did with Ohtani.

      fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/padres

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    • BaseballisLife

      2 years ago

      Kim was signed as a FA out of Korea so at the end of his current contract he is a FA again. He is not subject to arbitration.

      There is an $8 million mutual option for a 5th year but if Kim plays as well as he did last season he will be looking at a huge pay raise.

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      • Deleted Userrr

        2 years ago

        And if he sucks the Padres decline their end of the option. When was the last time a mutual option was picked up by both sides?

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    • Deleted Userrr

      2 years ago

      Players who come over to the US via the posting system are not subject to arbitration. Barring an extension Kim is a free agent after 2024. The Padres can QO him.

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  4. Kewldood69

    2 years ago

    Joke franchise. Farm system is finally bare. No more trades. Let them die out

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    • Brew’88

      2 years ago

      @Kew. I guess you slept through the last two drafts and international signings? It will be a top 10 farm by mid-2023

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      • vtadave

        2 years ago

        lol no it won’t. Not close.

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        • Simm

          2 years ago

          They will be signing the number 1 international prospect on Jan 15th. Some say the best international prospect in 20 years. Also already agreed to sign next years top 2 international prospect. Plus will have another 3 top one 100 guys once the new list come out.

          Like preller or not the dude finds prospects.

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        • beersy

          2 years ago

          Who are the two guys they have agreed to sign next year? I have been trying to find as much info as I can on Ethan Salas and haven’t looked ahead to next year yet. You are correct, this farm system will not take long to be top 10 in the league again.

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        • beersy

          2 years ago

          Misread your post, who is the one top International prospect they already have lined up for next year? Thank you.

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        • beersy

          2 years ago

          Found him, Leo De Vries. Now I have someone else to look in to, thank you.

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        • damascusj

          2 years ago

          Oh, not mid 2023, but 2024, for sure it will be. They got some studs

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        • Brew’88

          2 years ago

          Ethan Salas, added to Merrill, Lesko, Snelling, Zavala, Mazur, Lizarraga, Williams
          Bingo

          They reload like an Atmospheric River. Prospect River

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        • Deleted Userr

          2 years ago

          How many of those dudes will still be Padres this time next year?

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      • Kewldood69

        2 years ago

        Eat it up, baseball fan since 2022: syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10055581-update…

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      • Deleted Userr

        2 years ago

        It definitely won’t

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    • JudgementDay

      2 years ago

      @kewl are a salty dodgers fan that couldn’t get past the “joke” franchise when it counted the most?

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  5. RyanD44

    2 years ago

    Brent Honeywell for comeback player of the year.. heard it here first

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    • Kewldood69

      2 years ago

      You have once had to have been good to come back from something

      Reply
  6. bbatardo

    2 years ago

    Preller will either make a trade before the season starts or at the deadline, but they will add a starter at some point.

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    • Brew’88

      2 years ago

      Yep

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  7. spectaculer187

    2 years ago

    Henry.. Roster resource won’t even touch it. It’s like nobody has a clue if Kim is controllable for 2 years or 4!

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    • Steve Adams

      2 years ago

      He’s a free agent after his contract ends. He does not go into arbitration thereafter.

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      • spectaculer187

        2 years ago

        Are players from Asia not playing with the same 6 years control as American players?

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        • Deleted Userr

          2 years ago

          They are not

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  8. spectaculer187

    2 years ago

    Steve did you see that Spotrac changed their minds and added 2 years of Arb?

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    • Steve Adams

      2 years ago

      I’m not sure what Spotrac’s rationale is. I don’t know the folks over there. I’ve personally confirmed in the past that Kim is a free agent after his contract ends.

      Broadly speaking, most players coming from foreign professional leagues who sign big league deals of fewer than six years have clauses written into their contracts that allow them to become free agents even if they don’t have six years of service time. That even holds true for former big leaguers. Chris Flexen will be a free agent next winter, for instance, despite having just three-plus years of MLB service.

      Kim is no exception. He’s a free agent post-2024, unless the mutual option on his contract is exercised by both parties. That won’t happen. Mutual options are basically an accounting measure. It’s been eight years since the last time I remember both sides of a mutual option being exercised, and I can think of exactly two instances of a mutual option being exercised by both parties since I started at MLBTR back in 2008.

      Kim will be a free agent in the 2024-25 offseason.

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      • Deleted Userr

        2 years ago

        Who were the two players that had their mutual options picked up by both sides? I know Jason Giambi is one.

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  9. bhoops

    2 years ago

    Still wouldn’t mind Cole Hamels on a split contract.

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  10. Giant Willy

    2 years ago

    The Padres. LOL!

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  11. desertdawg

    2 years ago

    I still say there is a good chance that Pablo Lopez is a Padre by the end of Spring Training. The Marlins are still looking for a CF or maybe a SS.

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    • coup

      2 years ago

      Adding Lopez would make a lot of sense. I would deal Kim before Grisham if I had to pick one. We have other SS’s. And I’m not sure I want to see Tatis roaming CF with his shoulder and wrist still somewhat in doubt. I don’t want to see Tatis diving for pop-ups.

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    • Deleted Userr

      2 years ago

      Rather just have MacKenzie Gore back

      Reply
  12. sergefunction

    2 years ago

    Apparently a young Padres pitching prospect swept away kewl dood’s fantasy significant other and is taking her on a whirlwind tour of exotic islands.

    KD’s immediate plans include moping and redirecting his fantasies to demoralize Padres enthusiasts.

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  13. towinagain

    2 years ago

    It’s bad, bad, bad, bad.

    Reply
  14. giantwarrioras49ersraiders

    2 years ago

    Here comes Bauer they need something to get attention off the ped user

    Reply
  15. solaris602

    2 years ago

    My understanding was that Lugo was only signing with a team that was going to add him to their rotation. Did that not turn out to be the case?

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    • Simm

      2 years ago

      They gave lugo incentives as a starter and reliever. He will get a shot to start but it’s not a sure thing.

      Reply
    • BaseballisLife

      2 years ago

      Lugo is the 2023 Martinez for the Padres. Start in the rotation and be in the pen by July.

      Reply
  16. closetball

    2 years ago

    Font looks good on paper.

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