The White Sox have already traded Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo López to the Angels and are now sending out even more pitching. They are sending righties Lance Lynn and Joe Kelly to the Dodgers, the teams announced. Lynn had a 10-team no-trade clause, with the Dodgers on it, but waived it. The White Sox will receive pitching prospects Nick Nastrini and Jordan Leasure, as well as outfielder Trayce Thompson.
Lynn, 36, has been an effective major league starter for over a decade now, debuting back in 2011. It has been a strange season for him here in 2023, however. Through 21 starts, many of his peripherals are in line with his career marks or even better. He’s striking out 26.9% of opponents on the year, a few ticks north of his 24% career rate. His 8.4% walk rate is only slightly worse than his career 8.2% clip, while this year’s 38.1% ground ball rate is just a bit off his 42.9% career rate.
But despite all of that, he has a 6.47 earned run average, almost three full runs above his 3.71 career mark. This seems to be due to a few factors. For one thing, he’s allowed a .328 batting average on balls in play that’s well beyond the .300 mark he’s allowed in his career and the .295 league average in the majors this year. His 61.6% strand rate this year is well below his career mark of 74.6% and the 71.8% league average this year. Perhaps most importantly, he’s already allowed 28 home runs, more than any other season of his career even though there’s still a couple of months left.
20.6% of the fly balls Lynn has allowed have gone over the fence. That’s a mark that is very unlikely to be maintained going forward. Last year, the qualified pitcher with the highest rate in that department was Germán Márquez of the Rockies, who pitches half his games at Coors Field, at 16.9%. Lynn’s rate of 20.6% this year is the highest in the majors among qualified hurlers, with more than two percentage points separating him from Shohei Ohtani’s 18.4% rate, the second-highest in that department.
Lynn’s hard hit rate is listed at 40.7% this year at Statcast, a slight bump from last year’s 38.7% rate, but it still seems fair to expect some regression towards the mean here. ERA estimators all like him better than his actual ERA, with Lynn having a 5.22 FIP, 4.82 xERA and 3.92 SIERA this year. It seems the Dodgers are banking on the fact that Lynn has actually been closer to his previous career form than a quick glance at his surface-level stats would indicate.
There are some similarities in the case of Kelly, who previously pitched for the Dodgers from 2019 to 2021. In 31 appearances this year, he’s striking out 32% of opponents while walking 9.4% and getting grounders at a 56.2% clip. All three of those figures are better than league average for a reliever, yet he has a 4.97 ERA. It’s possible that his .329 BABIP and 58.7% strand rate are pushing more runs across the board, as he has a 3.25 FIP, 3.23 xERA and 2.97 SIERA.
It seems that plenty of clubs were willing to look past the ERAs of these two pitchers, banking on their previous track records and under-the-hood numbers. In recent days, Lynn has received interest from the Rangers, Rays and Dodgers, while Kelly also received interest from the Rangers and Dodgers.
The White Sox are having a dismal season, currently sporting a record of 41-63 despite coming into the year with competitive aspirations. It was reported a few weeks back that they were willing to consider trade offers on anyone except for controllable core pieces Dylan Cease, Luis Robert Jr. Eloy Jiménez and Andrew Vaughn. Rental pitchers Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo López were flipped to the Angels earlier this week.
Lynn and Kelly were both also logical trade pieces since they are each in the final seasons of their respective contracts, though both also have 2024 options. Lynn is making $18.5MM this year, with about $6.48MM left to be paid out. His deal also contains an $18MM club option for 2024 with a $1MM buyout. Kelly is making $9MM this year, with about $3.15MM left to be paid, then has a $9.5MM club option with $1MM buyout.
The Dodgers have plenty of need for pitching, having suffered through a litany of injuries this year. Starters Clayton Kershaw, Walker Buehler, Dustin May and Ryan Pepiot are on the injured list, with Noah Syndergaard having been there as well until he got traded to the Guardians. That’s forced the club to turn to rookies like Bobby Miller, Emmet Sheehan and Michael Grove, alongside Julio Urías and Tony Gonsolin. Whenever Lynn reports to the Dodgers, he’ll likely bump one of those rookies back down to Triple-A. Further pitching additions could do the same, as could the return of Kershaw later in the season.
The Dodgers also have relievers Daniel Hudson, Blake Treinen, Alex Reyes, Shelby Miller, J.P. Feyereisen, Tyler Cyr and Jimmy Nelson all on the 60-day IL. Adding an experienced veteran like Kelly will increase the depth for the stretch run. Each of Lynn and Kelly could also be retained for next year if the Dodgers so wish, which will likely depend on how they perform over the next few months.
Turning to the players going to Chicago, the headliner is Nastrini. A fourth-round pick of the Dodgers from 2021, he’s already climbed to Double-A. The 23-year-old has made 17 starts at that level this year with a 4.03 ERA, striking out 26.1% of opponents but with an 11.3% walk rate. Baseball America recently ranked him the #10 prospect in the Dodgers’ system while FanGraphs currently has him at #6.
Leasure, 24, was a 14th-round pick in 2021 and has been working exclusively in relief as a professional. He’s pitched 35 innings out of the bullpen in Double-A this year with a 3.09 ERA, striking out 39.7% of opponents but walking 11.3%.
Thompson, 32, is an immediate big league option for the Sox, or he will be once he returns from the injured list. He was drafted by the White Sox back in 2009 and made his major league debut for them in 2015. He quickly went into journeyman status, bouncing to the Dodgers, back to the White Sox, the Athletics, the Cubs, Padres and back to the Dodgers again, generally struggling in most of those opportunities.
He seemed to finally have his long-awaited breakout last year, with the Dodgers calling him up midseason and putting him into 80 games. He hit .256/.353/.507 in those for a wRC+ of 142 while providing above-average outfield defense, slotting into all three slots on the grass. Unfortunately, he struggled to keep it going into this year, hitting .155/.310/.366 before landing on the IL in early June due to a left oblique strain.
Thompson began a rehab assignment a week ago so should be able to join the White Sox in the near future. He’s making $1.45M this year and can be retained via arbitration for two more seasons after this one. The Sox have a regular outfield mix of Robert, Andrew Benintendi and Oscar Colas, with Jimenez serving as the designated hitter most of the time. Thompson could potentially spell anyone in that group while serving as a reserve outfielder alongside Gavin Sheets.
Despite plenty of injuries, the Dodgers are 58-43 and have a three-game lead in the National League West. They’ve already brought in some complementary pieces like Amed Rosario and Enrique Hernandez, now bolstering their pitching staff with a couple of new additions. The Sox have continued adding young talent as they look to salvage some future value from a disappointing season. With four days until the deadline, both clubs likely still have more moves to make.
Bob Nightengale of USA Today was the first to report that the two sides were deep in talks, with the Dodgers optimistic about getting both Lynn and Kelly. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported an agreement was close. Joel Sherman of The New York Post relayed that Lynn was willing to waive his no-trade clause. Nightengale first had the Lynn part of the deal being done. Jon Heyman of The New York Post had the Dodgers finalizing the deal for both pitchers. Jeff Passan of ESPN first reported the full trade.
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Was hoping for Stroman, not Lynn.
The Cubs are not sellers
I still feel like they’ll trade Stroman though. They can’t issue him a QO.
Jed Hoyer is taking some heat I’ll bet he can get past Stroman walking if Cubs can get to playoffs,remember he would have to get more than 21m to opt out doubt someone gives him a multi year deal over that
You’re joking right? He will EASILY sign a multi year deal at over 21 million a year. He is a top 10 SP this season
Slim chance with him, zero without. He’ll walk with nothing in return. Short-sighted.
Yet.
Great trade for us. We needed a starter and some pen depth. We will get the most out of Lynn.
His best is long past him. The home runs are brutal, the hard-hit rate is staggering. Other than strikeouts he does nothing well anymore.
As your boss( dream Prez of Baseball Ops), nicely done.
You’ve also pleased the baseball gods by maintaining the Trayce Thompson w/ LAD or CWS for bulk of career mandate.
We? Are you a baseball player?
Great, you’ve come out from under your troll bridge to bless us with your thoughts
To all Dodgers fans: Take your gloves and sit in the bleachers when Lynn is on the mound. At the rate he gives up home runs, you’re bound to catch one.
A guy with an era over 5 have fun with that dud
They did skip his time in Toledo, where his bat got straightened out.
Dodger fan here. Giving you a thumbs up because even I see the humor (and truth) in the comment.
ERA
In 2023
LOl
How’s Lynn doing for the dodgers?
The Rangers were trying to acquire Lance Lynn, but it looks like he is going to the team that were called the super team not long ago the Dodgers. Well, as a fan of Lynn hope he pitches well for them and Joe Kelly too two former Cardinals.
My guess is the Rangers viewed him as a last resort option. Hopefully Dodgers close the deal so they don’t have that security blanket out there anymore.
The Giants were trying to aquire Joe Kelly. Therefore this doesn’t surprise me one but. Meanwhile Farhan is just twiddling his thumbs
Lynn will be awful for the Dodgers which makes me happy…
Sometimes when players get away from a cancer ridden ball club they actually perform 100X better. Maybe he becomes dominant with a team that actually wants to win and isn’t lazy. This happened with Castellanos when he came to the Cubs and was insane. He left that depressing city of Detroit and pretty much rejuvenated his career.
Sometimes, when cancer ridden ball clubs trade their players, the other team gets one of the cancers. Hope they serve a good buffet in Dodgertown.
Nick left the big ball park Comerica… For A band box ball park that’s why he went off…and then Cubs didn’t sign him……and Detroits no longera depressing city…but Chitown has become that…how’s that Southside doing …
Wrigley is not a bandbox with the wind blowing in which it does 70% of the time that park is hard to homer in
Can’t wait until he rolls his eyes and pouts at Mookie Betts when he slips in the outfield like he did Benetendi this week.. Maybe Kelly can openly complain each time you get a mic in front of him over the last month. Though I have no doubt the Doyers can maximize both of their potential because they can Dev-De-Deve… whatever their players. I have to also say good riddance to poor teammates
Hot weather, wind out. Cool spring and fall air, blowing in.. but that’s all before they put in those dastardly modern scoreboards and repaired the chunks of concrete falling on fans.
“Rats big as Pppigs”
Ozzie Guillen
Ah yes, ya gotta love a sore loser White Sox homer, quoting the “Abe Lincoln” of baseball, Ozzie Guillen.
White Sox have traded away their biggest cancer…to the Dodgers.
Are you happy?
You want add another groundball heavy pitcher to that terrible infield defense?
Don’t know about the groundball part, but they did add a heavy pitcher.
I hope LAD believes in unicorns and rainbows because Lynn’s year has been hideous
Funny how this goes. Fans around here luv themselves some advanced metrics, then hate them when they’re used for actual baseball moves.
Lynn rhymes with winn? As in Randy what a dandy? But yo Joe Kelly murdered it in 2020 for you Dodgers
I would take Erod from Detroit over both
Ok….but why
Because they climbed back into race, fans would go crazy if they sold now, sorry
I think the “why” refers to acquiring the league’s most hittable pitcher
His peripherals are fine. This is (as usual) a very savvy get by the Dodgers. They’ll fix him in no time and will give up very little to get him.
Peripherals don’t overshadow leading the league in hits, runs, home runs
Hits can be fluky depending on the defense behind you. Unless you pitch in Denver or in a band-box stadium, home runs are home runs. 2.1 HR/9 is ugly.
Just like they fixed syndergard?
The home runs are the most telling factor. Agree hits can be fluky. But leading the league in both makes it seem like players are seeing the ball very when he’s on the mound
As usual? What about Kimbrel, Joe Kelly 1.0, Syndergaard, etc? Friedman is 50/50 hit or miss with pickups.
ERA…
Yeah they do, actually. That’s the whole point.
Syndergaard gave a rather seething view of those trying to fix him. The system is about buy in and Syndergaard obviously from his own remarks did not buy in. He says he is now just going to stop listening to others and just do what feels good to him. Dodgers have fixed plenty of pitchers (see the 2022 staff members that were not so good before being Dodgers and again after being Dodgers)
No. HR per fly ball is known as one of the flukiest stats in baseball, and teams actively seek out guys with unusually (for them) high ones, knowing that they are luck based.
That’s hella better than any other organization’s batting average on scrapheap pickups, cept maybe the Rays.
Seam stop trying to educate these clowns. Don’t you know any Sp with an era of 5 plus never ever gets better leaving one of the worst teams in the league. It’s never happened before. Every starter with a 5 era just retires no chance for them to ever improve.
No, they are not. 5.22 FIP. He is walking more than double what he did last season and inducing more than 10% less ground balls. He is getting hit more often than he did in previous seasons, and he is getting hit harder than ever before.
If a major league player hit a HR off me, would you call that luck, too? Sometimes, a pitcher just isn’t fooling anyone with his weak stuff.
XFIP is 4.02, Siera is 3.92, 13.9% swinging strike rate… could easily see him turning things around w a change of scenery and better coaching staff (i do think many of his issues revolve around pitch selection, but we’ll see)
And he did all those numbers while getting rocked. Those aren’t numbers that reflect his reality. LAD just traded for his reality!
Im willing to bet his reality numbers will be closer to his norms for the rest of the year.
Remember last year he was awful two months coming back from injury and then awesome second half.
didn’t that Maddux guy have ERA’s of 5.52 and 5.61 in ’86 & ’87.
Fair enough. But Syndergaard didn’t appear able to get out of his own head.
I mean
That’s literally exactly what peripheral stats d.o
Exactly
HR are like THE flukiest stat
The increased K rate would make it seem like they don’t
Let me introduce you to the home run derby
Yes. I’d call it luck
I’d especially call ot luck if you were managing to strike out like 27% of them
Great moves for the Diamondbacks
Drasco: As a Cubs and Dodgers fan, I laughed at this anyway. Well done.
Good for the Giants too
Lol well played
Another one, or rather two, bite the dust while the kid GM sits in his hands. After two years, that’s his MO.
This isn’t the Reds year. Don’t give up too much just to win one more playoff game. Patience, grasshopper.
By the way, I have tickets to all three games the Reds are playing at Comerica Park in September. Can’t wait to see your young, exciting team.
If reds are going to buy they’re gonna buy someone with lots of team control.
They could cash in their hoard of offensive players for some pitching that has 4+ years of team control.
For instance Bryce Miller and Bryan Woo of the Mariners- could send them India, Encarnarcion Strand, Fairchild
Mariners need offense and Reds need pitching.
Agreed with Foxtrot. The Reds aren’t going to overpay for rentals on a season where it’s on the fence how good their shot is. They’ll more likely be in the market with teams that have a controllable starter with a little more time left, but not likely enough time left before they themselves are a contender. So if the pirates, white Sox, royals, Rockies or nationals are willing to trade a controllable starter that fits what the reds want, they’ll likely explore that avenue, since none of them teams are likely close to contention.
I’m sure the reds kicked the tires on trades for giolito and Lynn but probably didn’t like the price that was asked. The Reds are in a different spot than the Angels. The Angels are desperate to make the playoffs. So paying a high price for rentals while trying for a final push for the playoffs while they still have Ohtani and Trout is understandable for them. The Reds have a good team that’s coming together. It makes more sense for them that if they’re going to give up good prospects, that it be for someone who’s going to last longer.
If they overpay dor rentals, they are idiots. They have enough prospects they won’t have room for.
They said when they got criticized for getting too many middle infielders, they could be used as tradable assets. It has become clear that was defection in the best political tradition.
M’s need quality offense. Those bats won’t get woo or Miller
Woo nor Miller by themselves get the M’s a quality bat with multiple years of team control. At best they fetch someone with 1.5. They’re a 2nd tier or 3rd tier piece in a trade for a quality bat with years of team control.
Reds are taking a chance Woo and Miller can turn into something better than a #3.
Mariners are taking a chance Encarncarion turns into a middle of the order bat and India rebounds
Reds will get cease. It’s a lock
You want Lynn and his 2.1 hr at great American?
The Reds, like the Orioles, would be short sighted to just start trading away prospect capital for mediocre rentals. A piece with control maybe but no sense giving up what they’ve worked for over the last couple seasons to get back old parts.
What I want to know is, who’s going to pitch for the WSox? They now have Cease, Kopech and Clevinger, who most surely will be traded since he’s on a one year contract. Tonight’s pitcher is Touki Tousant, another player Hahn pulled from the garbage heap. Losing Graveman from our god awful bullpen and Lynn who is past it are fine. But the Sox crappy farm system has no one to bring up. All of these prospects are in AA and aren’t gonna be ready until, maybe, 2025. The media can keep calling this a rebuild or a reload for next year or a partial rebuild. But this is a full-fledged rebuild built around Vaughn, Robert, Cease and Eloy. This is their second rebuild in six years. The one in 2017 worked before reinsdorf’s interference shut it down. This rebuild will be even worse. Grifol is not the man to handle it.
And in this case you should be glad.
Did you seriously have interest in Lynn??
Agree. If you’re the reds you should look to add what pieces you can without dishing out major prospects. Now isn’t the time to abandon the rebuild.
reunion season continues
Yes they’re is a god
There, not they’re.
I kinda like “they are is a god.” It’s sort of zen.
Not sure why any team would want Lynn….and Kelly hasn’t been great either
Those Contracts are kinda ugly too, makes no sense to me.
The Chisox rotation should be a real treat to watch, once the trade deadline passes.
Yep, just slightly worse than the “Stro show” if he’s still pitching for Chubs!
How does 21 games under .500 smell?
The Angels had the 28th ranked farm system. I dont think they could over pay even if they wanted too
Same as your underpants with this heat & humidity lately. But what does that have to do with little Stro being horrible lately?
@Dogbone
I think the Sox rotation might have actually improved with this trade. Lynn’s washed up.
But yes, I agree with what you’re saying, especially if they have the stones to move Cease.
I’ll let you know when they hit the now inevitable 100 loss mark.
Well they managed to.
Look at his xFIP. When will casuals figure out it’s all teams care about?
Guess they’re gambling on Lynn to turn it around. A reliever can catch fire anytime and never hurts to add more bullpen help.
Dive just a tiny bit deeper than ERA dude. Lynn was a popular target because his peripherals are still good. He will regress positively most likely, and the Dodgers are great at fixing things that have temporarily gone wrong with pitchers (the White Sox aren’t).
If he wasn’t leading the league in both hits and home runs then maybe the peripherals would matter more. You can cite SIERA and xFIP and peripherals all day but if you’re bolstering your rotation for a playoff race there are better options than a pitcher who has looked bad in almost every start this year
He’s coming to eat innings, not start games in the playoffs.
You were almost right: He’s coming to eat.
Sigh … Ok you do you grandpa
Well, he is failing at eating innings, You actually have to prevent runs to do that.
He’ll do that… 25th in mlb in IP even w the off year so far
Those are words
Maybe even ideas
But let me try and counter them with the same amount of intellectual rigor
You can site HR allowed and ERA all day, but bolstering your rotation with pitchers with good xFIP, SIERRA and peripherals is the way to go.
So you’re saying the dodgers won’t care if he’s lit up for 8 runs, since his “peripherals” are pretty. Those are the peripherals that supported the results he’s had to this point.
Tell me you don’t understand what’s meant by “peripherals’without telling me.
Haven’t seen much of Kelly this year but his numbers look good.
Don’t see how Lynn could put up worse numbers so only way to go is up.
A 5 ERA is good? -0.3 WAR is good? Only in LaLaLand
Honestly I didn’t even look at his era or war.
Stroman has been quite bad recently.
His last six starts have been rough, that’s true.
Last 5 starts – 7.99 ERA, 1.73 WHIP.
Regressing to the mean, perhaps
Great beer, Treehouse is. Check out Fox Farm if you haven’t already.
That’s not what regressing to the mean is
Everyone should take at least one basic stats course.
Neither are good anymore. Head scratcher.
Kelly is. Lynn tbd.
Kelly has a 5 ERA. He is not good anymore.
I will take the under on 5 era with Dodgers. I could be wrong. It happens every few years.
It’s 2023
Why are you citing ERA?
As someone who watches the sox, I am happy to buy joe a cab out of the city. He was good for 2 weeks.
Joe Kelly blows. 98-99 mph fastball and not dominant.
The Wild Thing glasses aren’t working anymore.
That sht always blows my mind when a guy throws a 100 and still gets rocked lol
SELL THE TEAM REINSDORF!!!
I really hope Reinsdorf moves team to Nashville in ‘29 when lease I think is up at ballpark. It makes too much sense IMO.
That being said I’d be happy with like Pepiot and another prospect coming back for Lynn & Kelly. Colson Montgomery will be face of franchise in two years so compile another southern Indiana guy to help with Nashville fan club.
Yeah, good luck with that.
So you think Reinsdorf extends lease there? Builds another stadium in burbs or goes to another state? What other options are there?
Guessing his family is watching closely what happens with Bears
How am I supposed to know when Reinsdorf passes away? When he dies the team will be put on the market. By that time, Nashville might have an expansion team of their own… I don’t know.
Do you live here? What’s the big crisis? Everybody knows when the team is good, the attendance is fine. The ballpark is fine.
The Bears have nothing to do with this. The Bears and White Sox aren’t getting any more money. Chicago still owes $640 million on the Soldier Field redo.
Reinsdorf will sell the White Sox. Take it to the bank. Not sure when but destined to happen.
No, it’s his toy to play with until he dies… the family will sell after he passes away.
Pretty sure his one son is like chairman of Bulls so not so sure they just sell team. Either way, whoever keeps or buys team would be foolish to stay on Southside of Chicago. They HAVE to move team to burbs or another state. Nashville wants a mlb team and they would stay in AL central. “Surprisingly” they have better weather, less taxes, less crime, growing population & economy, etc, etc. Not to mention Sox have like 3 or 4 minor league affiliates in North Carolina which is next door.
Remember when people said Vegas would never have pro teams cause it’s just a tourist city? Maybe gambling was a concern too. But they have a hockey team, NFL team & A’s headed there!
Enjoy your stay in Nashville, tell Dolly I said hello.
When he dies he’s leaving the team to his kids. He told them that, after he dies, they should sell the Sox and keep the Bulls. I can’t wait for that to play out.
The only original AL team to move are the A’s. No way that moron is moving the Sox to Nashville, Montreal or St. Petersburg (Florida or Russia). The owners would rather have an expansion team in Nashville and, hopefully, Montreal.
Reinsdorf WILL keep the Bulls but sell the White Sox.
I really hope Reinsdorf moves 6 feet underground soon
Kelly and Lynn have been washed.
Lance will fare better with the Dodgers. A team that’s contending, has better defense, just better vibes. You can tell Lance is frustrated with the White Sox with his body language. Kelly will to be better with his old team too.
Is there a team on his no trade list that he won’t waive to get out of Chicago?
They have a combined era of 6.17 on the season, improving isn’t saying much…
True, but a few years back as a good comparison, Cole Hamels was having a down season with the Rangers, gets traded to the Cubs, he immediately went on a fantastic run. Sometimes it’s a change of scenery and going to a team that’s contending.
No team can defend HRs.
Dodgers should have gotten Giolito, how did Angels beat them??
By overpaying massively.
Exactly. Giving up 2 of their 3 top prospects for 2 rentals is a pretty big price tag. Dodgers likely had talked about them as well and likely didn’t want to part with what the white Sox wanted for them.
Giolito is a SoCal guy so the Angels will likely resign him. Quero is bad defensively behind the plate and Paris is struggling. It was a steal.
Maybe it’s my ignorance but I still don’t get how giving up a AA catching prospect who is blocked by O’Hoppe along with a Rookie Ball pitching prospect to get arguably one of the top starters available along with a decent reliever is an overpay. Given the percentage of how many Angel’s “untouchable” prospects haven’t worked out (Dallas McPherson, Brandon Wood come to mind) I think this was a great move for the Angels
Exactly. People are too quick to cite “two top prospects” without contextualizing that “top prospects” is relative to the system they come from. The angels were 28th before the move in farm systems and went to 30th afterwards. It’s negligible. Not to mention how many of the top prospects in any organization pan out at the major league level anyway? It’s worth the risk and the price is lower than it seems on the surface.
Gio is from Southern California. Maybe he’ll want to stay if the Angels sign him to a new contract.
A Double-A catching prospect who can’t catch and is not hitting this season either and a relief prospect?
People think that just because they are high up in the Angels farm system that it means they are somehow good. The Angels system is both weak and shallow.
Quero has regressed this season as he moved from the extreme hitters league in A+ ball to AA. His OPS is about league average and his power has completely disappeared hitting just 3 home runs this season. Better pitching has exposed him. Top that with declining numbers at framing and overall defense, and it’s not pretty. With O’Hoppe. Thaiss, and Wallach in front of him on the depth chart, there was really no reason to keep him.
After a pair of injuries to start the season, Bush has struggled this season. His strike outs ticked up while his walk rate has nearly doubled. A nearly 6 ERA in 6 starts for the Trash Pandas has been the result. He is only 23, but he doesn’t have a huge ceiling (45 prospect rating) and considering he sits 91-93, that type of issue usually leads to a spot in the bullpen, not the rotation.
I’m ALL in on the Angels. The Dodgers are embarrassing themselves with these moves. I will never forgive Friedman for non-renewing Justin Turner!!! Screw Friedman!!! Turner at 38 is still better than Muncy.
I don’t care what some of the peripherals say; Lynn is not a good pitcher this year.
Analytics would tell you otherwise the peripherals would tell you they both have experience in big games.
Good peripherals mean he’s likely to regress in a positive direction. The Dodgers don’t care how he’s looked this year so far. They only care how he will look the rest of the season.
This seems like an easy concept. Why don’t people get it? We’ll never know.
Perhaps he’ll swing the other direction, but it’s quite likely he won’t. Sometimes players have lousy seasons and don’t matchup to whatever the formulas say should happen. Not the kind of player I would count on if making a playoff push.
Why is it “quite likely”
No way to defend bombs though. And Lynn gives up a ton of them. As a Braves fan, the Dodgers trading for a guy that gives up a crap ton of bombs makes me happy, I gotta be honest.
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Lynn sucks.
“I don’t care what some of the peripherals say; Lynn is not a good pitcher this year.”
You have a keen eye for the obvious my friend
Hey Dodgers, since you seem interested in bringing back former players, may I interest you in Tyler Anderson? You won’t have to give up much for him
Willie Calhoun is also available.
Not a bad idea. They took Lance Lynn who is terrible, they’d likely welcome back Tyler Anderson. Angels no longer need him as he’s now the #6 starting pitcher behind Ohtani, Giolito, Sandoval, Detmers, and Canning.
The Angels use a six player rotation
How did Tyler Anderson pull off 2022?? A modern miracle: 15-5, 2.57 ERA, 1,002 WHIP, and an All-Star nod.
The Dodgers have serious pitching needs. I don’t know if Lynn truly addresses those needs.
Why did dodgers let go of all those elite pitchers that they had back in 2018?
?????
I know Lynn is likely better than his overall pitching line….but how much better? Dodgers are a smart team, maybe they are seeing something. If the price i low enough–but how can it be low enough at this stage?
He does ok against righties. If they have a plan to make him more effective vs lefties they will have something.
The Dodgers played the White Sox in LA a while back. In those 3 games, I saw a very poor defense on the field. Errors of commission and omission. While I don’t see him putting up all star numbers, I can easily see an overall improvement in his results based on having a better defense behind him.
Not sure Muncy + Rosario on the left side will be the better defense he is hoping for.
Fair point, Muncy has not been impressive there. I think anybody at SS (tongue in cheek) is better defensively than TA.
Where does this “smart team” narrative come from? Look at all the bad trades and incredible flops this team has had over the past 10-15 years.
Dodgers FO has been kidnapped and replaced by the Angels FO.
Haha but who’s got Giolito?
They also have Rendon
Rendon probably belongs in a 6 month to a year Rehab for his personal problems.
Rendon came to Anaheim to quit baseball and chew gum… and he’s all out of gum.
LMAO!!!
Creates more competition for Erod and Lorenzen’s services. Works for me. I’ll be interested to see the return and compare with the Giolito/Lopez return..
Two nice returns for white sox ! Not really going to make the team any better but that catcher seemed like a decent haul and Nastrini will be ready to start at some point next season
These are clearly clubhouse moves. The dodgers are notorious for keeping their secrets in the clubhouse, but as a fan who has watched nearly every game since the mid 90s, this team has character closest to the 2017 team and even some of the earlier years with good ole’ Jose Lima, RIP. 2018-2022 showed the management the clubhouse was not in “team” spirit, only individual performance. Kike and Kelly were cheerleaders on the bench and bullpen respectively (I’m sure they tried adding JT but couldn’t). Cant wait to watch Lynn find his stuff again and in a better environment for the Dodgers. Still no consistent pen, which is the only way they make it through the playoffs.
“Lima time!”
Lynn couldn’t keep the ball in the ballpark for the Sox, Moving to a more pitcher friendly ballpark will keep the ball in the park a bit more, but don’t expect him to find his “stuff”. He should perform a bit better than he did on the South Side, but if you don’t expect too much from him, you might not be let down.
They’ll choke as usual, relax.
And the cards are doing nothing but we are waiting.
Arms race now thru August 1st! It’s gonna be a crazy MLB swap meet for pitchers!
dodgers just getting kelly to help win some brawls
They could bring back Bauer if they are fighting girls!
I could see Miguel Vargas going to Chicago. Dodgers got Rosario and they have Lux coming back next year. LA doesn’t need to develop prospects at the big league level. They can just buy them later after they are developed.
No way in hell they give up on Vargas, especially when his trade value is as low as it is right now
Sure why not wait for it to go even lower. He’s not going to get any more PT unless there is an injury.
Dude, he’s only 23,
Thanks for this comment. Sometimes I find myself taking the comments too seriously, so it’s nice to occasionally get a reminder that most people here don’t actually know jack s***.
It would be hard to be excited about this if I was a Dodger fan. You have to feel like there are better players out on the market the Dodgers could have targeted with a pretty decent farm system.
I don’t think this trade is how slim or overly aggressive teams that are sellers are being. I trust that the Dodgers know what they are doing.
Never thought I’d see the word “slim” used in a conversation about Lance Lynn being traded. Kudos to you sir!
Rumor has it Lynn was failing to square up the strike zone on his delivery, leading to an explosion in walks and home runs surrendered. The Dodgers coaching staff is second to none in quick fixes.
Lynn and Kelly both have club options for 2024. L.A. should eat both contracts and try to avoid sending anything back.
Despite poor seasons, both pitchers had decent interest in them. I don’t think the white Sox were going to have to send money on any deal. It was likely always a matter of what team was offering what prospects, with the acquiring team taking on the contracts.
Chicago did a decent job getting something back for Lynn and Kelly. I didn’t expect anything more than a salary dump.
Lynn is 36 years old. At that ripe old age, and after 1,825 MLB innings, does it seem likely he forgot how to “square up the strike zone on his delivery…” Here’s a thought: He might be washed up.
Hard pass! Are the Dodgers trying to miss the playoffs with this trade?
maybe the Dodgers plan on flipping Lynn to the Cards for a case of Bud-light??
Estrella Jalisco is more likely!
Every team had the same chance in 2020! The cheating Astros winning in 2017 doesn’t count for anything in the minds of most fans!
Except they didn’t bc the “season” was almost entirely divisional opponents. Such a tired reply.
Good news for the Giants and Diamondbacks here.
Lynn is better than Syndergaard, how could it be construed as anything other than an improvement for the Dodgers even if it is a marginal one?
Too much effort to achieve a marginal result?
2018-2022 not in “team” spirit?? Yet they won a World Series in 2020 and also had the best record in baseball last year.
2020 doesn’t count for anything in the minds of most fans.
Agreed. We were just happy to see a baseball game in 2020.
Weird, it seemed to count just fine until their teams were eliminated from the postseason.
That was just because people were crazy from being locked down by the pandemic. Once the panic subsided, people realized just what a waste of time the 2020 season was.
Cardboard cutout fans? Really?
The minds of most fans are empty skulls
Well the Sox are taking care of business and staying ahead of other teams that are looking to move pitching. Hello Scott Harris! This is so similar to Avila right now. Wait and wait, then panic and take a lesser deal because other teams jumped in front of you. Good on the Sox and my Tigers will be behind the 8 ball once again.
He could still do fine, but Harris hasn’t done anything to impress yet. At the end of the year, I will look at what McKinstry, Ibanez and Maton did in comparison to the Castro’s and Candelario. I’m guessing the new players won’t have out performed the players he cut for nothing. It will also be fun to see what Washington gets back when they trade the Candyman.
Don’t put the evil of Al Avila on Scott Harris. Let the guy form his own reputation before we jump to judgements.
It’s a sellers market, it could be wise to wait.
Bro chill. There’s still a few days before the deadline and more teams looking to add pitching. The tigers have two guys to move and can probably get some value.
I find no advantage to going early or going late. Bloom went early with the Workman trade and late with the Schwarber It’s a gamble either way. It’s probably more important to see which way the wind is blowing in SD. If they decide they are contenders, then there will a sellers’ market. If they decide to sell, it becomes a buyers’ market.
Good move by the Dodgers, they’ll put Lynn in the pitching lab and turn him into a more valuable innings eater which will give them stability, take some of the stress and workload off the bullpen and starting pitchers which should make all the other pitchers better by default. Since half the league makes the playoffs now, trading for elite pitchers is expensive since only so many teams are sellers and everyone wants to add a frontline starter. This isn’t a super sexy move but I like. Can’t imagine the prospect package is too expensive unless they are trying to also make CWS pay salary to minimize luxury tax. Also, Dodger bullpen needs a pitcher or two like Joe Kelly. Bickford and Almonte are not playoff pitchers.
Lynn needs to go to a fat farm for a month or two and lose about 80 lbs. Forget the pitching lab.
You don’t get stability when your starter can’t regularly provide 5 quality innings.
Not a lot to love here for Dodger fans, but it isn’t hard to see the reasoning. Both of these contracts are seriously under water so unless the Cards kick in quite a bit of money the Dodgers won’t have to give up much prospect capital.
Hate to tell you this but the Cards aren’t involved in this trade, It’s the White Sox. I thought you were a knowledgeable Dodger fan… LOL!!!
Technically, both Lynn and Kelly WERE cardinals at one point, but I understand what you’re saying.
Yes, that was a brain faert. Thanks for pointing it out in such a nice way. I’ll do the same for you some day.
You’re welcome. All the Dodgers need now is to upgrade at backup catcher.
Dodgers next plan to move the fences back another 40 ft. Additionally they plan on putting Lynn on a restricted diet allowing him only 2000 calories a day.
Trayce Thompson? Wow. Just the kind of young bat the White Sox needed.
Lynn will be pretty motivated to be at his best. He’s flashed some brilliance at times. If the dodgers can get that out of him, it’s a good add. Lynn will benefit quite a bit from having a world class offense and defense behind him.
Trayce going back in the deal lol. bring on the mariachi!
Dodgers soured on Thompson rather quickly. I wish him the best!!!
It’s always great when you send out guys no one has ever heard of. No top prospects! Good one for the doyers
Whatta ya mean not top prospects?!
That Jordan Leasure is being fitted for the Sox uniform as we speak.
As soon as that Leasure suit is on, watch out!
Uncle Larry already got his tickets.
Nastrini is the Dodgers #9 prospect, so he’s not a total nobody. Plus, this is Lance Lynn and Joe Kelly we are talking about here. You don’t get top prospects for those guys.
Nastrini IS a top prospect! This deal will haunt the Dodgers down the road.
been a while since we’ve seen an Italian pitcher haunt anyone. fan of all ex Bruins and if he didn’t descend from Italy my apologies. sincerely. i mean it. not joking.
The Dodgers will never be haunted by any dealt prospect. Those hauntings only happen to teams that can’t afford to simply buy players at peak value.
Sox in a complete sell off
Sell off the entire front office too
Can someone let me know what the White Sox received besides just a name? Literally every outlet is creaming their pants with stats upon anecdotes of Lynn and Kelley, and there isn’t so much of a mention of the two pitchers that went the other way, let along Trayce going back to Chicago. I realize the White Sox are basically invisible, but eff you, sports media.
I found this about Leasure:
“Leasure, a hard-throwing 24-year-old reliever, was sporting a 3.09 ERA and 56:16 K:BB in 35 innings of work this season at Double-A Tulsa. He could be a future high-leverage option for Chicago.”
Nastrini is the biggest piece going back. A top 10 prospect in Dodgers farm system. He’s got swing and miss stuff (there was a big article about him earlier this year). The problem is, he sometimes can’t command the strike zone during his starts.. Leasure very similar to Nastrini, electric stuff but struggles with command except he’s already in the bullpen.
Both probably end up being bullpen pieces for White Sox.
Perfect. White Sox love pitchers that can’t throw strikes. It is their specialty.
From a potential talent level, I think the Sox have done well with the return in the two trades. The downside is none will likely make an impact for 3-4 years.
Baseball-reference.com
@CluHaywood The world’s foremost authority on baseball had this to say.
“Nastrini at worst is a elite pen arm. Has every chance to stick as a starter and has the stuff to be a playoff starter. I would easily take him over the arm from the Angels trade. Leasure is back of the pen arm. Thompson can still crush the ball. I like giving him a audition for your 2024 outfield.”
Great job Dodgers acquiring the statistically worst qualifying pitcher in the league! Brilliant move.
Concern appreciated. They will survive.
I was wildly against the Dodgers dealing Nastrini + for an old guy until I discovered he had a sparking 6.47 era.
LOL this team is cooked come October. Another Friedman disasterclass.
Phew, I was worried the Orioles would trade for Lynn.
I am not sure that Lynn has any value except maybe a wakeup call to Urias and Gonsolin that yes your era can get higher than 5.00 and this is a prime example of it
I am not sure Kelly has any value except if you need someone to throw a retaliatory hit by pitch and have a guy who is wild enough that the umpires won’t throw Roberts out of the game because Kelly could have just been wild
I actually think the white Sox did pretty well here. Let’s be real the two pitchers they just traded are having awful years.
To get the number 9 prospect from the dodgers is pretty good. They have a very deep system.
Plus you get a serviceable mlb player as well as another minor league who looks like he could be a solid reliever.
Thompson is just to clear a 40 man roster spot. If Nastrini turns into an average or above average 3-4 starter CWS will be happy with the deal. Leisure is just a limited ceiling reliever type guy. Won’t surprise me if the Dodgers don’t have another move to be made as prices start to drop for rentals.
Trayce’s main value is to get court-side tickets when the Warriors are in town to play the Bulls
He’s still walking 4.5/9 in his second run at AA, the chances of him developing into an average 3 starter aren’t great…but if he can become a good late inning guy, I think they should be happy with that outcome.
I believe this is trayce third stint on the white sox
Fegan no longer works for The Athletic…
They fired just about everybody, so not many still at the Athletic. Thanks NYT.
I was REALLY hoping for Flaherty/Hicks from the Cardinals. But maybe St. Louis was asking too much in return? Seems like Lynn/Kelly is a nice Plan B.
You can have Flaherty and Hicks for Mary Hart. How can anyone look at Cardinals pitchers now without Molina and say that cardinals pitchers are that good?
I think the Cards pitchers miss the previous pitching coach Mike Maddux now with the Rangers.
Virtually every starter on the market will have a higher cost than Lynn and his $18MM contract. Dumpster diving is getting costly.
A ++++++ and more plus and +++ for Sox. What a return. Can’t see doing any better. Nastrini at worst is a elite pen arm. Has every chance to stick as a starter and has the stuff to be a playoff starter. I would easily take him over the arm from the Angels trade. Leasure is back of the pen arm. Thompson can still crush the ball. I like giving him a audition for your 2024 outfield.
D ——minus and more minus for Dodgers. I think Lynn has better days ahead and if they are really better they will pick up his option because pitching next year is going to be expensive. Kelly is good, even better than his year era. Gave up 2 great arms though. Prefer the other LA trade with the Sox.
Nice hot take. No reason to play the rest of the season out, Nostradumass here knows the future. BTW so NOT My dream GM.
Nastrini has a great arm but control is still an issue. Had a bad case of the yips his last season at UCLA and why he went in the 4th round. Dodgers took a chance. But as is the case for most young pitchers with a live arm, it only matters if he can throw strikes. That is still up in the air but certainly has a high ceiling if he can get better command.
Too bad the Sox couldn’t find a taker for Clevinger as well.
Oh, they still a few days. They’ll find somebody to take him.
Trayce Thompson. 3 times the charm right. I seen his brother Klay at a Birmingham Barons game when Trayce was on the time the 1st time around.
Overpay! They gave up a guy with over 20 K/9 two seasons ago, with 32 in 14. That’s quite impressive anywhere above high school rec baseball.
I read yesterday that the Giants were trying to get Joe Kelly. Therefore this doesn’t surprise me one bit.
Meanwhile Farhan is just sitting on his laurels…
Posting a billion posts all day and all night long #FF doesn’t make your takes any better or any closer to reality, it just clutters up a fairly good comment section.
When Zaidi makes some great moves at the deadline, you will crawl back into your cave again just like you did after the Correa fiasco when it was proven the Zaidi was right.
LA will not accept a man like Lance Lynn. Keep that bohemian somewhere in the Midwest where people don’t care about their physical appearance or general health
Maybe the plan is to flip Lynn to St.Louis, Milwaukee or Cincinnati for some beer and brats???
There’s a Portillo’s in Buena Park Lance.
Rangers and Orioles need to make a move for a starter and reliever. Can the Tigers pry Norby from the O’s or Foscue from the Rangers for either Lorenzen or ERod + Cisnero? An almost ready ML 2nd baseman for 2 rental pitchers?
Shoot higher for Mayo rather than Norby (he is a good player too) but I 100% agree on Foscue. I’d like to see them get both. Cross your fingers that Harris works some magic.
I like Mayo too, but think the Tigers need a 2nd baseman more than 3rd because of Keith. I know some say Keith may not stick at 3rd and might be better at 2B, but me? I think Keith at 3rd and Norby works at 2nd.
It’s a couple 3 years before McGonigal or Anderson can make the majors. Do the Tigers think Wenceel Perez is ready to make the jump from Toledo?
Jung is a 2B too and in AA now. There was talk of him possibly moving to 3B one day too like big bro. Norby is good too. On another post Prieto and Wagner were mentioned by a Baltimore fan who thinks Prieto will be something special. Lots of possibilities trading with Baltimore.
Why? Ok children of a lesser god, let me take you to school: Lynn, is, a…… INNING EATER! LA just needs a ( currently) healthy pitcher that can give LAD 6 2/3 , and go 500 win/loss rest of the way. LAD fixes more broke pitchers than doesn’t. Kimbrel? What about Kimbrel?! He was better last year than this year. He was only slightly worse 2 years ago than last. THOR…ok, you got me! 1 out of 10 ain’t bad. Thor is just plain broken. All LAD pitchers that were reclamation projects,on new teams, are still doing well today. You’re welcome. Lynn can have a winning record in LA (?) THEN WE WIN! Kelly will be good. Come back here in October ish, and you can apologize. I will admit though, this trade is only going to move the needle ever so slightly, lol, but that was the purpose.. to give the bullpen a rest and to be an emergency starter, and with a potential upside of finding themselves from 2 years ago. If not then they lost maybe a couple of potential All Stars One day, if they hit their ceilings? Nastrini did have some great reviews early on but his control issues and AA are not impressing the organization much!! Chances are you’re not going to be visiting Cooperstown one day and saying to your grandkids “hey I remember when that guy got traded to the White Sox”!
5.1 IP per start is an innings eater? Ok. If you say so.
Can you name any pitchers the Dodgers “fixed”?
I don’t feel schooled.
Its 5.2ip per start and sadly, yes, thats top 25 in baseball now
Can you name any pitchers the Dodgers “fixed”?
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In 2022, it was both Anderson & Heaney.
Heaney had a 6.88 ERA and continued to pitch better after he left because he was “fixed”?
Anderson? Yeah, didn’t think so.
I don’t know why the writer or anyone else would cite these pitcher’s BABIP in thinking there will be a “regression” to their previous years when those differences are probably very much due to the ban on shifts. They are both another year past the peak of their physical abilities and are now letting more batters on base and getting hit harder. That’s the recipe for giving up even more runs. Time for teams to find new solutions to their pitching needs rather than plugging in guys aging out of a changing game.
Why do you think it “pr9bably very much” because of the shift that Lynn has an increased BABIP?
This certainly moves the needle for the Dodgers…which direction who knows.
Two more players with below replacement level production? Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see which way that needle is moving.
Next up Yasmani Grandal, Mike Clevinger,Michael Kopech, and Yoán Moncada for a bag of balls
Doesn’t really move the needle for the Dodgers. Essentially some warm bodies/false hustle move. Anything the White Sox get in return in any trade will be seen as a great move/upgrade because that organization is pathetic from top to bottom. Hahn had to reschedule the parade.
Lynn is not a sexy acquisition but still better than Sheehan and possibly Grove at this point. Has some bounce back potential for this season and didn’t cost the Dodgers too much. Kelly is a good pickup. The key is getting to the point where you don’t have to rely on bad options like Bickford, Bryan Hudson, Tyson Miller, etc. Those are guys that should not be pitching at the MLB level.
Dodgers need to pickup at least one more SP arm, preferably somewhere in the #2-3 slot for it to really move the needle.
Nice post.
I read somewhere that the 4 players LA has acquired this week via trade have a combined WAR of -2.5. Hopefully, they trend the other direction while here.
I kinda like Grove as a BP going down the stretch. His starts all seem to be fine the first time through the order, it’s the 2nd and 3rd time through where he falters a bit.
Couldn’t hurt to give it a shot.
Not worried about the negative WAR. One, K Hernandez is going to be more of a situational/bench option for the Dodgers. Yes, if you compare him to a starter he’s subpar/negative. Two, Rosario is hopefully mainly only going to hit versus lefties and preferably subbed out by Rojas in late innings for defense and not going to start against RHP. I’ve never seen a hitter so much better versus one hand of pitching like Rosario. He’s like a RH version of Joc Pederson with the bat. He’s going to hurt defensively no doubt. Kelly and Lynn are replacing guys that are worse so it should be a net positive.
Delusional as per usual…
I didn’t like their first few moves but this is a great one for the Dodgers.
Wow, last year’s Lynn… YES! This year’s Lynn, 6.5 era and 28 dingers… NO! With those brutal stats, they might as well have kept Thor!
Believe it or not, Thor has been worse.
Beilieve it or not, straight to jail, right away.
This is starting to get hilarious. How many more sub zero WAR players can the Dodgers acquire this year? The count stands at 4 as of today.
“Nah, we don’t want good players like Giolito. Send us Lynn and Kelly” said Friedman. “Yeah, we will send you two serviceable relief pitching prospects that are nearly MLB ready, but you got to take Thompson too. We don’t want to look like complete idiots”
There are 2 possibilities.
1) you are a better talent evaluator than the Dodgers’ F/O
2) You are NOT a better talent evaluator than the Dodgers’ F/O
I know which one I think is more likely.
The 3rd possibility is that Web is a Padres fan, and downgrades all LAD moves.
Don’t teams usually try to get better at the trade deadline?
The Dodgers also have relievers Daniel Hudson, Blake Treinen, Alex Reyes, Shelby Miller, J.P. Feyereisen, Tyler Cyr and Jimmy Nelson all on the 60-day IL!!!!
Depth!!! They plan on snoozing into the playoffs to get bumped in the first round by some unexpected WC team.
So funny. The Cubs killed the Sox and spawned a sell off.
Don’t like this move as a Dodgers fan, Kelly I will take but I wouod rather have seen ERod from Detroit. Plenty of PS experience to with the Red Sox. Prove me wrong Lynn
Dammit white sox, quit trying to get better in future years.
Sincerely the rest of the AL central
What. Is. Wrong. With. The white sox!?!? Why oh why would you take TT back. Keep doing the same thing expecting different results
I don’t care. He’s filler. Someone has to play these innings. With any luck, it means there’s an offer being considered for Sheets.
Lynn has had a down season, I can’t deny that.
In the 2 years prior to ’23, he has 300 K’s and 64 BB’s
I’m guessing Lynn “being fixed” will be a success and this trade looking good for the Dodgers. The stadium will benefit him, the defense, playing meaningful baseball…..
His ups are higher than most starters in baseball. He was a top finisher for AL Cy numerous times. Lynn is at worst an innings eater for remainder of year. If he does rebound, a rental with an option so he can be locked in for 2024 at Dodgers choice.
The return? A 5th outfielder with injury troubles and two unproven arms that can’t find the plate but might become Joe Kelly if all goes right……should have waited till closer to deadline.
On the third anniversary of the Joe Kelly Face Day, too.
I’m confused. I thought the reason for making deadline trades was to get better. The Dodgers just got worse. 4 straight players that are worse than replacement level and much more expensive.
1. Getting rid of Noah and Trayce is addition by subtraction. AF (and most Dodger fans) will sleep better knowing that these two guys will be unavailable for impulsive and illogical use by Doc in the next three months.
2. Rosario, Hernandez, Lynn and Kelly will be used much differently by the Dodgers than their prior teams. I feel confident they will be slight, perhaps even major, upgrades over the 4 players that have been occupying the roster spots they take.
Nastrini and Leasure are excellent products of the Dodger player development system. They could very well turn out to produce many productive years. It’s a seller’s year and they are representative of where the market is. Friedman needed to act aggressively and probably will have to give up even more in the coming days for another starter.
When a player is so bad that even a replacement player from AAA is a better choice for production, paying good prospects for them doesn’t make any sense.
If Trayce Thompson is an immediate big league option for your team, then your city should have its team revoked and moved to Portland
When are the Dodgers moving to Portland?
I think Manfred gave them a pass for their vote to extend his contract. They claimed he tricked them with his incredible spring training.
But he turned to a pumpkin like always.
ChiSox hopefully
Chisox suck. Always will.
5 innings of hard hits and strikeouts are on the Horizon at The Ravine!
I dont quite understand why the Dodgers are trading for these guys when they have all that pitching talent in the upper minors.
I can’t help but think of what could’ve been for the ChiSox had they gotten a suitable manager rather than someone off the bar stool in Tony LaRussa.
Every time I see front line pitchers moved, I wonder if the Tigers will ever make a worthwhile trade.
Thanks for working late Darragh!
Lynn’s family suffered a horrible loss this off-season. That could be the reason he came into the season so overweight and not the buffets that have been mentioned above. I think being away from the area will go along way into turning his season around. Wish him and his family nothing but the best.
Translation: Dodgers aquire -1.5 WAR
White Sox one of the best AAA teams after the sell off. Move them to Charlotte or Nashville, they will always be 2nd to the Cubs and get out of the hood.
Nine hours into the day here on the East Coast and no trades – getting antsy…
Solid pitching prospect in Nastrini, and Leasure isn’t awful himself. Trayce Thompson is an interesting player as well.