The Dodgers officially announced the signing of two-time MVP Shohei Ohtani to a 10-year contract. The two-way superstar had announced his intention to sign with the club via his Instagram page on Saturday.
“Dodger fans, thank you for welcoming me to your team,” Ohtani said in a statement released by the team. “I can say 100 percent that you, the Dodger organization and I share the same goal – to bring World Series parades to the streets of Los Angeles.”
Ohtani is guaranteed an astounding $700MM on the deal, as revealed in a statement from his CAA agent Nez Balelo. However, the contract comes with a staggering set of deferrals, a concept apparently suggested by Ohtani himself. Ohtani will only collect $2MM of his salaries annually over the course of the next decade. The remaining $680MM is deferred to be paid out between 2034-43, thereby reducing the contract’s competitive balance tax number to roughly $46MM.
Regardless of how that distribution, the 29-year-old Ohtani lands the single largest contract ever given to a professional athlete. The $700MM guarantee surpasses the $674MM deal that soccer legend Lionel Messi signed with FC Barcelona for the 2017-21 La Liga seasons.
“First of all, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to everyone involved with the Angels organization and the fans who have supported me over the past six years, as well as to everyone involved with each team that was part of this negotiation process,” Ohtani said in his Instagram message. “Especially to the Angels fans who supported me through all the ups and downs, your guys’ support and cheer meant the world to me. The six years I spent with the Angels will remain etched in my heart forever. And to all Dodgers fans, I pledge to always do what’s best for the team and always continue to give it my all to be the best version of myself. Until the last day of my playing career, I want to continue to strive forward not only for the Dodgers but for the baseball world.”
Balelo’s statement: “Shohei is thrilled to be a part of the Dodgers organization. He is excited to begin this partnership, and he structured his contract to reflect a true commitment from both sides to long-term success. Shohei and I want to thank all the organizations that reached out to us for their interest and respect, especially the wonderful people we got to know even better as this process unfolded. We know fans, media and the entire industry had a high degree of interest in this process, and we want to express our appreciation for their passion and their consideration as it played out.”
Aaron Judge’s ten-year, $360MM deal with the Yankees last winter was the largest free agent deal in baseball history, while Mookie Betts landing $365MM in new money in his 2020 extension with the Dodgers was technically the largest deal overall. Mike Trout’s ten-year, $360MM extension with the Angels was considered by the team as a 12-year, $426.5MM pact due to its inclusion of previously owed money in Trout’s previous deal, but while that extension had been considered by some to hold the “biggest contract ever” title, Ohtani’s contact now ends all debate.
While it was widely expected that Ohtani would set a new standard for baseball contracts this winter, nearly doubling the Betts/Judge totals is an incredible new benchmark. The $700MM figure speaks to several factors — Ohtani’s generational talent as a two-way superstar, the amount of revenue Ohtani can personally generate in terms of additional endorsements and fan interest from Japan, the number of big-money offers made by the other known suitors in the race, and simply the Dodgers’ determination to land a player who has been on their radar for years.
If the National League had had the designated hitter in 2018, it is quite possible Ohtani would’ve signed with the Dodgers when he initially came to MLB from Nippon Professional Baseball during the 2017-18 offseason. The Dodgers (along with the Cubs, Rangers, Padres, Mariners, and Giants) were the finalists behind the Angels, whose willingness to give Ohtani free reign as both a pitcher and a hitter allowed the Anaheim club to seal the deal, and set the stage for one of the most remarkable stretches baseball has ever seen.
The impact was immediately, as Ohtani hit and pitched at such as high level in 2018 that he was an easy choice as AL Rookie Of The Year. He had to undergo a Tommy John surgery that kept him off the mound in 2019, though he was still able to hit as a DH and posted some impressive numbers. However, an injury-marred 2020 campaign saw Ohtani deliver poor numbers at the plate and only 1 2/3 total innings on the mound, creating doubt as to whether he could truly live up to the hype.
The doubts were erased from 2021-23. Ohtani posted a 2.84 ERA, 31.4% strikeout rate, and 8.3% walk rate over 428 1/3 innings on the mound, while also hitting .277/.379/.585 with 124 home runs over 1904 plate appearances. Not even Babe Ruth amassed such levels of performance while both hitting and pitching at the same time, earning Ohtani the unofficial nickname of “the Unicorn.” Ohtani won AL MVP honors in both 2021 and 2023, and finished second to Judge in 2022 in the aftermath of Judge’s AL-record 62 home runs.
As stunning as Ohtani’s contract is, it seems possible that he might’ve landed even more if he’d been fully healthy. Ohtani suffered a tear in his UCL that required surgery in September, and though it isn’t clear whether or not his surgery was another Tommy John procedure or a brace procedure, he isn’t expected to pitch during the 2024 season. It seems likely that Ohtani will miss some time at the start of next season to recover well enough to operate as a DH, and after his TJ surgery in 2018, he was able to get onto the field by May 7, 2019.
More details should become available as we get closer to Spring Training, though that perhaps isn’t a sure bet given Ohtani and Balelo’s penchant for keeping quiet on specifics. Ohtani’s last few months have been marked by a somewhat unprecedented level of secrecy about not just his health, but any hints about his free agent market. It was made clear by Balelo that leaking details to the media would be marked against any team in the chase, and thus most clubs played ball with the Ohtani camp’s requests.
The lack of information led to no end of speculation about what exactly Ohtani was looking for in his next team. It was known that Ohtani was eager to win, which perhaps isn’t surprising considering that the Angels were never able to deliver even a .500 season with both Ohtani and Trout on the roster. Ohtani’s initial venture to MLB prioritized West Coast teams, yet that didn’t appear to be a true determining factor in this case. The reported finalists for Ohtani’s services included three West Coast teams (the Dodgers, Angels, and Giants), as well as the Cubs against, and a new suitor altogether in the Blue Jays.
Two reports yesterday suggested that Ohtani was signing with the Jays and was en route to Toronto, leading to a social media flurry that included everything from flight-tracking at Toronto’s Pearson Airport to queries about a large reservation allegedly booked by Jays pitcher Yusei Kikuchi at a downtown sushi restaurant. In the end, the Blue Jays fell short in their attempt to sign the two-way star, though as with all of the suitors, it could be that Dodgers’ final offer simply blew every other bid out of the water.
Ohtani’s free agency in some ways held up the rest of the market entirely, as several top talents were waiting for Ohtani’s situation to be resolved so they could have a clearer picture of what teams might be bidding on their own services. Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Cody Bellinger, Jordan Montgomery, Matt Chapman, and others might now see their markets kick into higher gear with Ohtani off the board. The trickle-down effect bled into the trade market as well, as numerous teams with players available can now shop for offers from clubs who missed out on Ohtani — and might be even more pressed to make a big addition.
The Giants, for instance, are still feeling the heat to add a superstar after also falling short on Judge and Carlos Correa last offseason. The Blue Jays still have a lot of holes to fill in their lineup after an almost team-wide lack of consistency at the plate in 2023. The Cubs were perhaps seen as less likely to spend to quite the same level as other suitors, though president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer firmly denied a report from earlier this week suggesting that Chicago was out of the hunt. The Mets, Red Sox, and Rangers did seemingly pull back prior to the start of the Winter Meetings, whereas speculative candidates like the Yankees, Braves, Phillies, or Mariners never seemed involved to any great extent.
The Angels have the toughest pill to swallow in seeing Ohtani not just leave, but head across town to the other Los Angeles team. Because the Halos were just barely able to maneuver themselves under the luxury tax threshold, the Angels will maximize their compensatory return for Ohtani, who naturally rejected a qualifying offer. Anaheim will now get a compensatory pick after the second round of the 2024 draft, which is admittedly small consolation for losing one of the game’s all-time singular talents. There hasn’t been any sense that the Angels are planning to rebuild or take a step back now that Ohtani is gone, as the team has reportedly still been trying to add top-end talent to finally get back into contention.
As for the Dodgers, they got their man, cost be damned. They’ll also surrender $1MM in international bonus pool money, as well as two draft picks — their second- and fifth-highest selections in the 2024 draft — to sign a player who rejected a qualifying offer. Ohtani now joins Betts and Freddie Freeman in one of the more fearsome top-of-the-order trios in recent memory, and solidifies at least the DH spot in Chavez Ravine for the next decade. There have been some whispers that Ohtani might try his hand at playing the outfield should he ever opt to stop pitching, and while he did make some brief appearances as an outfielder during his time with the Halos, the question of a future position probably isn’t being raised for at least a few years down the road, or until Ohtani has exhausted all options as a pitcher.
Ohtani’s arm injury was particularly troublesome for the Dodgers in the short term, as the club is still in need of pitching help heading into 2024. Walker Buehler is returning after missing all of 2023 due to his own TJ surgery, swingman Ryan Yarbrough is probably penciled into one rotation spot for at least the start of the season, and Bobby Miller has all but officially won himself a spot after an impressive rookie year. That leaves a collection of other young arms (Ryan Pepiot, Emmet Sheehan, Michael Grove and Gavin Stone) battling for other rotation spots, and Dustin May could be a factor by midseason once recovered from a flexor tendon surgery. Longtime ace Clayton Kershaw is a free agent and will miss a big chunk of the 2024 campaign due to shoulder surgery, though it would seem that if Kershaw decides to keep playing, it will be either with the Dodgers or with his hometown Rangers.
Yamamoto is known to be another target on the Dodgers’ wishlist, while Dylan Cease and Tyler Glasnow are two of the undoubtedly many more experienced pitchers L.A. has discussed in trade talks. The Dodgers could perhaps trade from their deep farm system to facilitate some pitching trades, or make yet another big signing. Even after adding Ohtani to the books, the Dodgers had created enough space on the books that they’re only slightly over the $237MM luxury tax threshold — as per Roster Resource, the club’s projected tax number is just over $244MM. Since Los Angeles hasn’t been reluctant to pay a tax bill in the past, president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman can continue to be aggressive as the team enters the Ohtani era.
Despite 11 straight playoff appearances and 10 of the last 11 NL West titles, the Dodgers have captured “only” one World Series title within this fantastic run of success. All those postseason near-misses have left something of an underwhelming feeling amongst Dodger fans, and the team has won only a single playoff game over its last two trips to October. It always felt as though the Dodgers were going to be pushing to sign Ohtani no matter their recent results, yet his addition perhaps acts as some kind of turning point in translating a few more of those playoff visits into championship rings.
Claiming that the Dodgers will become even more of a high-profile franchise is a little difficult to claim, since obviously the club’s long line of past Japanese stars has made them a household name overseas. Still, adding the biggest star of all in Ohtani will only enhance the Dodgers as a worldwide brand. The added marketing, merchandising, and broadcasting revenues that come with signing Ohtani won’t exactly cover $700MM, yet it isn’t a stretch to say that the Dodgers will enjoy some unprecedented economic benefits in addition to what Ohtani delivers on the field.
Alden Gonzalez of ESPN reported the absence of any opt-out clauses. His colleague Jeff Passan first reported the majority of Ohtani’s contract would be deferred, while Fabian Ardaya of the Athletic was first with the deferral specifics. Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported the no-trade provision.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images
Mikey P
Wow!
Kayrall
Wow!
Shadow_Banned
What the fuuuuuu
Wow Betts, Ohtani, Freeman.
Good luck getting through them
Mikey P
I got to be the wow guy. Doesn’t feel like 700 mill but maybe $5. Heck yea
Mikey P
Also. All my LA friends going crazy right now. I’m on the ohtani is over rated wagon, not that he’s not awesome, but man $700 million feels crippling when he’s got maybe three pitching seasons left. Of course, it doesn’t really matter in the pay to win sport
rangerfan4ever
He may not have any pitching seasons left
Salad Daze 22-27
Yeah that’s why the highest payrolled teams ALWAYS Win the world series.
IronBallsMcGinty
It’s absurd. He’s good but no player is worth that. Good for him though.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
There’s a radio dj in Las Vegas named Mike P. When I was in high school. He did a parody song of I’m in love with a stripper with a song called I’m in love with a gay dude. (Im honor or his cousin) lol. Sorry to go off topic. Your name just reminded me of him and his song.
Belix
You must realize they will recover alot of that in merchandise sales, tickets, and commercials. They already planned for this.
max711
Not sure if that’s true. If he’s directly bringing $40 Million per year in sponsorship revenue (which could be the case with the Dodgers) he’s probably worth that money.
Belix
They will easily recover alot of that in merchandise sales, tickets, and commercials. They already planned for this.
evillazilla88
Like Jacob deGrom they will pitch again but will they be good time will tell
Mikey P
Worth it. That made me lol
Michael Grzybowski
They already sell out every home game. They aren’t going to see any increase due to signing Ohtani.
Rexhudler86
He may pitch the next ten despite contrary belief he has 2 tommy johns he only had one, and he’s thirty how old is verlander, mad max, and kershaw that’s ten years from now.
smuzqwpdmx
Question is, will he keep bringing in that much sponsorship money if he spends a few years hurt or ineffective? Public attention and adoration is fickle. There’s certainly no guarantee he continues bringing in that money for 10 more seasons.
Wisdom shared
Just so you are aware of it, but NO team pockets money from merchandising or the sale of baseball items. All the money goes into one fund and is shared amongst the 30 MLB teams. Between 11 percent and 15 percent of the merchandise sales will go to the league and is then shared equally among the teams. The rest goes to the manufacturer. Retailers also receive their cut of the profits and the players association also receives a percentage of total sales before it is divided amongst the teams. LA may benefit from Ohtani, but merchandise will put millions in the pockets of all thirty teams. The biggest recipients are MLB and the MLBPA,
elmedius
I’d imagine every seat in the stadiums base price just went up at least $5 a game.
Rexhudler86
He brings in a whole continent, that loves baseball probably more than the United States, also every game is televised in Japan. I’m sure he brings in more money than you think.
Rexhudler86
I believe they get money from the broadcasting in Japan
Balk
Belix, I think the merch etc, will cover about 300-350 million. They may break even.
outinleftfield
No they won’t. Dodgers already sell such a large percentage of tickets that they will not get much of a boost if any there. Merchandise sales was $2 million for Ohtani last season. That won’t help much since the team doesn’t get much of that. Sponsorships will undoubtedly go up, but not to the extent they did in Anaheim. Anaheim had little else since Trout doesn’t do much.
Money for commercials he does goes directly to Ohtani, not the Dodgers.
I thought the bidding would be around $50 million and the largest bid would be by a team that could actually benefit from things like increased ticket sales. That is not the Dodgers. They can’t sell enough more to pay even 10% of that salary.
derail76
I’m a Dodgers fan, and trust me when I say this isn’t true.
Yankee Clipper
It’s a complicated system to mathematically quantify in terms of dollars, but it was researched and a report released. MLBTR released a story in March specifically addressing the economic impact of Ohtani.
Here is the link, take from it what you will, but it is good information nonetheless.
mlbtraderumors.com/2023/05/how-much-revenue-does-s…
hiflew
Will they though? They would have to sell an ADDITIONAL $70 million a year. Sure they may top that each year now, but it’s the Dodgers. They have enough fans they could pay ME minimum salary to be the DH and still sell that much in merchandise. I don’t think Ohtani will add THAT much to their bottom line. If he did, the Angels would have never let him go.
Rsox
What matters is the Dodgers are now on the hook for $1.1 billion for three players. No matter what team you are that is crippling
outinleftfield
Many of those things in that report are wrong. The Angels said approximately 11% of ticket sales were people that came specifically to see Ohtani play. About 300,000 on average in his tie in Anaheim. The Dodgers cannot increase ticket sales by 11%. What ticket sales he brings in on the road doesn’t matter to the Dodgers. .
Ohtani MLB merchandise sales was $2.1 million. Most of that does not go to the team.
MLB owns the broadcast rights to games going overseas, so that won’t help the Dodgers.
Between increased ticket sales, sponsorships, merchandise sales, and everything else than comes along with Ohtani, he increased Angels revenue by $37 million.
1979andcounting
Exactly, look at how Pujois fell off the map a few years into his deal.
TheHighCheese4Me
If they raise the price of a ticket $5/game, at 3.5M tickets sold per season, they are $17.5M towards the goal. The Mariners just raised ticket prices AND cut the budget.
I know which franchise is more worried about profits than rings…
filihok
MP
“Of course, it doesn’t really matter in the pay to win sport”
Yes. The players should play for the love of the game and not for money. Just like you sell those movie theater tickets (or whatever) due to your love of cinema.
outinleftfield
Rex, any international broadcast rights belong to MLB and are split between all 30 teams.
williemaysfield
Texas 9th and Arizona 21st. So not exactly highest
BaseballisLife
International broadcast rights belong to MLB as a whole so it would be shared equally by all 30 teams just like it did when Angels games were being broadcast in Japan.
BaseballisLife
Ohtani was the #1 seller in MLB and accounted for $2.1 million in merchandise sales in 2022. Very little of that goes to the teams and its all pooled then split by all teams.
yamsi1912
Japan isn’t a continent.
SweetLou
@shadow i mean teams get through them every year…
LouWhitakerHOF
Next posting Ohtani undecided.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Like this as Dodgers are my second favorite team.
But holy overpay Batman!
This guy is injured. Have they forgotten Darren Dreiffort so quickly?
braveshomer
Ahhh man! I was rooting for that one guy who vowed he would be first on this post when it happened. Dang, many people wished luck on his journey too…..oh well
i like al conin
They’re basically paying full price for the hitter, say $40 mil, and the SP, $30 mil. It only makes sense for off-the-field revenue.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Return of the Empire
Yamamoto to Dodgers next?
drdback
Nope.
scottn59c
Fork.
rondon
Now can we finally get along with the offseason, please?
jeppeson
Yes, there are other teams and I will be rooting against the Dodgers even more now. It will be a treat every time they don’t win it all as they should with that payroll. i.e. the Padres.
rondon
Well, it didn’t matter to me which team as much as just getting on with it!
Braves83
Yeah!!!! On with the off season.
99CaptainJudge99
I wish I could see Blue Jay’s fans faces right now. This is all for you!!!
scottn59c
Blue Jays fans don’t deserve to be Arson Judged like that!
FrontOfficeStan
This seems like such a ridiculous contract amount, but why not I guess.
i like al conin
This will probably cost Acuna a few MVP awards
swagsuperawesomeepiccoolman123
dodgers spending 700mil just to not make the WS
DeusSexMachina
You’re so mad lol, I love it!
Pete'sView
Disgusting.
scottn59c
Seriously. As if the NL West wasn’t already a run-away for the Dodgers.
JackStrawb
They didn’t sign him to win the division, however.
outinleftfield
To bring back Kershaw and bring in decent pitching, the Dodgers just pretty much guaranteed their payroll will be over $300 million.
halloffamernobodycares
do you not understand how deferred money works?
outinleftfield
I guess you don’t realize that deferred money has no effect on the CBT calculations. This is a $70 million AAV signing in terms of CBT. So if they add Kershaw and one more decent player at around $20 million the Dodgers CBT number for 2024 will be over $300 million.
roob
Worth every penny.
FletcherFan69
Sayonara, traitorous Shohei… instead of missing the playoffs, now he’ll know what it feels like to get swept in the NLDS every year!
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
So the whole narrative about Ohtani wanting to escape from a failing city full of homeless and poo poo and dookie was erroneous.
178iq
Smarter than Trout.
rottenboyfriend
Ohtani said it was about winning but in the end it was all about the money!
rottenboyfriend
Looking at the dodger payroll the next two highest salaries are Betts at $26 million and Freeman at $25 million then it falls off to $15M. When one star makes more per year than the next three combined that can create all kinds of issues going forward. The Dodgers got so caught up in signing Ohtani at whatever that they have potentially opened a whole new can of worms!
Cincyfan85
Boo
Wire to wire 2024
Why?
Cincyfan85
Well, boo $700m. That’s insane. Juan Soto will think he’s worth $600m next season. Also, boo the Dodgers. I don’t like them. At least it’s not the Cubs.
njbirdsfan
Whatever it takes to be done with this.
And if that means paying some Ohtani fee when I buy tickets so be it.
ckc12537
Lol, if Juan Soto thinks he is on Ohtani’s tier then he needs to check himself into a psych ward.
Wire to wire 2024
Ah, I thought you were mad the reds didn’t spend all their money for the next ten years lol
Cincyfan85
Everyone will want just under Ohtani now. Watch. Thr Braves are lucky they signed everyone to long term contracts.
Cincyfan85
Oh haha. Make fun of the small market teams. Without the small market teams there would be no baseball.
Wire to wire 2024
Bro I’m a reds fan, just not a fan of overpaying players to later hamstring the organization
cinredsfan
Bob C called Ohtani and asked for a loan to sign Yamamoto???
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
At 700 mil deferred or not, as a Cubs fan I’m glad the Cubs didn’t offer that much. I would love to kno1 how much they did offer though.
Cincyfan85
All this does is further create a divide between the top and bottom of baseball. Smaller market teams who don’t have much of a chance to keep talented players will have little to no chance at all soon. It’s not good for baseball. The contracts keep getting more insane and 2/3 of the league won’t be able to afford a superstar player soon. What will a team-friendly early extension be in the near future? $300m?
myaccount2
Players may want that but no one is giving it to them unless the market dictates it.
padrepapi
Hard to see Soto not getting a minimum of 45m year after this. Wouldn’t be surprised if Boras and Soto shoot for a 50m AAV
No way he’s signing an extension even at 500m after this signing.
Mariner22
Mariners already signed Julio for a potential $470 million.
ckc12537
Wow, that’s a massive overpay.
Mikey P
I’m with you Cincy Fan. I hate that baseball isn’t an even playing field cuz it’s such a great game. But I always root against the dodgers because of my personal experiences at the stadium and with their fans. I’m sure there are similar stories from many teams and that’s not to say there’s aren’t great people out there who root for the dodgers, it’s just been bad apple after the next.
outinleftfield
Soto will get 14 years. At $45 million per season, that is $630 million.
outinleftfield
That will all come out.
deweybelongsinthehall
Dodger tickets will now include an Ohtani tax but it won’t be listed on the ticket because the team keeps the money.
deweybelongsinthehall
Cincy, it shouldn’t change much because you figure he got $45m for hitting and $25m for pitching. How many others will be in that position? Also, as for Soto, he already turned down a huge offer.
outinleftfield
As of today the Reds have a payroll of $67.1 million. Ohtani is at $70 million AAV.
vtadave
Was his insta hacked?
TradeAcuna
Who is Ohtani?
ckc12537
What is a cuna
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Whatever you do, don’t put it thru Google Translate
sdpadsfan11
Matata?
DepressedDodgerFan
YESSSSSSS
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
You gotta change your name name. You can’t be depressed after this overpay
DepressedDodgerFan
I made this when LA lost to atlanta in 2021 but holy hell no opt outs is insane im so happy
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
You can change it at any time. I changed mine a few times. I was “Player Formly know as Mousecop” I even had prince’s symbol on either end of the name.
Juggy
I promise you with the jinx of your team you still won’t win a World Series
BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?
Well…..jays are still better than the Yankees
Joel P
That’s a weird comment to make.
Joe says...
Whatever helps..
Yankee Clipper
JoeSays: Last time they got cocky Judge broke Canada….
The Baseball Fan
This is history
angryyankeesfan1
That’s about as definitive as it gets
Simm
Did he say 700m???
Eatdust666
Yes, he did in fact say 700m.
ellisd19830
The dodgers should have saved money and just bought him the pirates. I’m kidding of course…. I do think arod at the time probably could have got the pirates instead of his first big deal.
Ted
Yeah, no thanks. -Jays
Cardsfan21
No kidding.
Bluejaysjunkie
I agree but it would be nice to see 4 signings by the jays to make up for this miss
redsorbust
Exactly. Stings right now but IMO Jays are much better off not getting one player for that amount of money. Good luck to the Dodgers. IMO it’s a HUGE risk.
3768902
Uh huh
10centBeerNight
Every so called “journalist” who posted that click bait BS story yesterday has lost all credibility.
vivalosdoyers
Where have you been the last 10 years?
Juggy
All the journalist that posted this yesterday they all want to be the first to report it. That’s why they will lose all credibility.
DarkSide830
BRANTLEYED!
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Dark, you will have to explain this one to me. Over my head.
DarkSide830
Michael Brantley was going to Toronto – until he wasn’t. Seems like Jays fans got trolled again.
LeeJPC
Is this Los Angeles a suburb somewhere in Toronto?
Salad Daze 22-27
Not the one in South California, They got one in south Padagonia. -Frank Black
Bart Harley Jarvis
The second Frank Black/Pixies reference I’ve seen on MLBTR lately! Keep up the good work!
@DaOldDerbyBastard
Wow. Way too expensive.
Not a casual MLB fan
So much for the recent reports that it “has never been about the money” for Ohtani.
JackStrawb
It’s never been about the money for me, but if someone wanted to pay me $700 million to practice architecture where people would cheer when I walked into the office—I wouldn’t object.
@Caylor Still wouldn’t be about the money, though.
Ranger Danger19
Oh No Canada!
SupremeZeus
Nez Balelo FTW!!!
Rick Wilkins
Canada, you’re in my thoughts and prayers tonight.
Wire to wire 2024
I can think of about seven hundred million ways to spend that money
UncommonSense
Everything you think of doing with it cost a dollar?
rellime 2
Doesn’t necessarily have to spend it to think about it.
Harry Doyle
Dave Roberts will pull him in the 5th
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Harry
Roberts will do whatever Friedman tells him to do . . . which means you are probably right
cuffs2
Yes but he will still be the designated hitter. Question is who will be the leadoff hitter? Betts or Ohtani?
UncommonSense
Betts, freeman, Ohtani, smith, muncy
Ouch
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Not really. Can be neutralized by elite pitching. Betts & Freeman not getting any younger.
UncommonSense
That statement can be applied to every team and every player
BrianStrowman9
Just came to say Hiflew is dumb and stupid
Ohtani will pitch again.
hiflew
He’s never likely to pitch again, so probably not. But if he does, I cannot wait to see he try to navigate Coors Field. Even Kershaw has a career ERA near 5.00 in Coors.
terry g
$70 M a year? That’s more than some teams total budget.
LouWhitakerHOF
Great point …. According to Spotrac more then 8 teams total payroll.
A’s $38m, Orioles $42m, Pitts $54m, Cin $59m, Mil $61m, KC $65m, Mia $65m and Clev $66m.
WOW!!!
Ming312
A better comparison is 2023 total payroll against Pirates $76m, Orioles $71m and A’s $62m. The 2024 numbers are incomplete, do not include FA signings or arbitration players.
redsorbust
Yup. Welcome to the pattenendly unfair world of MLB.
Stallion97
The article says the salary will be deferred. So no, not $70m per year. Probably closer to $40-50m per year and the Dodgers will still be paying the rest well into his retirement.
BaseballisLife
$70 million AAV for the CBT.
Mehmehmeh
Brutal weekend for Jays fans. I’m not part of that fanbase but I feel for them.
eichejt0570
I would be glad as a Jays fan to not give him $70 million a year. The Jays could not win the World Series giving a player that much. It’s sad the Dodgers and Yankees have to trade for or buy most of their star players.
Mehmehmeh
Fair take. That amount of money isn’t about winning as much as it is about business, revenue, marketing.
Yankee Clipper
So the Blue Jays didn’t trade for or buy any of their talent? You must not watch them very often…
And weren’t you just celebrating Ohtani to the Jays on the last thread? That’s a quick turnaround.
Cam
To trade for quality players, the Dodgers have had to draft and develop well, so that they have chips to use. Every team can do that – it’s not their fault that some teams don’t.
CommentsSectionCommenter
A ridiculous comment, but enjoyable knowing how sour those grapes must taste….
tedtheodorelogan
As a Giants fan, it’s nice not to be the ones getting trolled this time.
gardyparty
Brutal weekend for Jays fans indeed. I’m also not part of that fanbase but I’m loving this.
sportznut1000
Please just be another false report by a baseball writer
UncommonSense
The scoop is from Ohtani himself
dshires4
Holy mother of god…
thefallensoldier
700 mil is insane, imagine if he can’t pitch anymore
steelerbravenation
$700 million can not be right if it is I am not watching baseball anymore
Rexhudler86
I guess your not watching baseball anymore
sgtschultz
Idiot
Red Shift 10K
LETS GO!
baseballfan90
Good gravy. This sport needs a salary cap.
Yankee Clipper
Football has a salary cap and their salaries have exceeded baseball players’ salaries for years now.
Wire to wire 2024
That’s so not the point
Yankee Clipper
My point is that a salary cap won’t affect how much a given team chooses to give players, just like it doesn’t in football, basketball, or any other sport. It doesn’t lead to equity, thus making it pointless.
JaysForDayz
Uhhhh have you seen the parity in football? A salary cap certainly leads to equality, esp if combined with a salary floor.
Yankee Clipper
The parity in football? Do you realize baseball has more parity than football? The “parity” in football is perceived, not actual. Research has clearly demonstrated this and so does a casual look at the seasons’ outcomes. This same discussion topic is broached every year, and every year the results are the same – no other major professional sport has the parity of professional baseball. The only reason football is even close now is because half the league gets into the postseason. Has nothing to do with salaries.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
If there’s any parity in the NFL, it’s a parity in mediocrity. There is only about a half a dozen decent teams. NFL is tough to watch this season.
kingbum
Actually in the NBA at least 48% of all revenue has to go player payroll. That is in their CBA.
kingbum
Parity in football? So what New England just finished and what Kansas City is now doing constitute parity? Or how bout the Detroit Lions whose 9-3 record is their best record through 12 games since 1963. Carolina Panthers still sitting on just 1 win. The NFL does not have parity, the team is only as good as it’s QB.
outinleftfield
50% in the NFL.
WestVillageTiger
NFL contracts aren’t guaranteed and players can get cut at any time. Average careers are fairly short…
outinleftfield
The minimum percentage of total NFL revenue going to players is still 50%.
rondu999
Baseball needs a salary floor.
baseballfan90
And I’m all for that too
Four4fore
Royals fans are now in mourning. Othani will rue the day
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Holy Moly Donut Shop. 700mil ?
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Mmmmm that sounds good. I want a donut.
skyrider1011
That’s just an asinine amount of money to spend on a single player who may never be able to pitch the same way ever again. Offense is not what the Dodgers need it’s pitching and I doubt that they’ll have the money to go after top caliber pitching now.
eichejt0570
I doubt they will be able to sign Buehler after next year because of this!
Belix
Dont you realize they will recover alot of that in merchandise sales, tickets, commercials and marketing? They already planned for this.
kingbum
Every team has someone who manages the tax burden and they got a team that operates the business side of things. Things must be really strong financially in LA…
outinleftfield
Merchandise sales mostly goes to the players with about 12.5% split evenly between all teams.
Ticket sales in LA can’t go up much more. Certainly not enough to make a dent in his salary. Maybe a 5% bump, so lets say 200k more tickets sold.
Any money for commercials goes to the player, not the team.
Sponsorship money will undoubtedly go up, but $70 million worth? Nope.
BaseballisLife
Its an absolute certainty that he won’t pitch for 10% of the deal.
BigGarg
Zzzzzz we all knew it was gonna be the dodgers
Degaz
wow
swanhenge
Boy, that’s a lot of money
drprofsps
Good for him, Dodgers should have paid for Corey Seager, Texas Rangers thank the Dodgers for getting him out of our division and paying 3 players worth of salary. Must be nice LOL
Habitual Truth Teller
10 years 700 mill?
So what’s dodgers payroll look like the next 3-4 years?
This could go south real fast if he struggles to stay healthy pitching wise. He’s had 2 tjs already?
70 mill is a lot to pay a DH and at best relief pitcher if his arm doesn’t hold up.
Rexhudler86
No he has 2 ucl injuries 1 tommy John, and internal brace surgery because it wasn’t as serious also has a quicker recovery time.
Habitual Truth Teller
Was internal brace surgery what he had recently back in September cause he’s expected to miss all 2024 pitching wise but able to hit and pitch in 2025 according to reports?
Rexhudler86
Yeah Brock purdy never missed a game, I believe it’s 6 months, but yea they probably won’t risk it maybe he comes out of the pen in the playoffs. It’s also what Rodgers had on his Achilles.
Stallion97
The article says much of the salary will be deferred. Probably like how the Reds did with Junior.
Habitual Truth Teller
Thats fine and I’m not 100% sure but i think salary is based off aavs of contracts. So his 70 mill aav will count towards their salary and any tax penalties the have to pay
outinleftfield
$246.7 not including arb raises
BaseballisLife
$254 million CBT for 2024.
If they sign Kershaw add about $20 million to that.
just_thinkin
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahagagahahahahahahahahaha
Jays fans lmaoooooooo
1984wasntamanual
I’m not a Jays fan, but if I were I’d have no problem with my team not commiting 700M to him.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
1984
I don’t drink beer, but if I did . . .
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
I wasn’t even born yet but 1984 was a very depressing year for Cubs baseball.
frankiegxiii
Not cool laughing at Blue Jays fans, I’m sure most Dodger fans were down in the dumps yesterday, I know I was. I’m happy about the signing, but I feel like it was an overpay, I would rather have Sasaki at a lower price (if they were able to land him).
just_thinkin
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahagagahahahahahahahahaha
JJLADfan
There goes the Gondola
Overlord
But will he be able to feed his family? He might need an extension like Harper.
Wire to wire 2024
I chortled
Braves Butt-Head
700 mil lol I love Ohtani but yes that’s ridiculous
good vibes only
Holy cripes, $700M. Wonder what that AAV means for the opt outs or lack thereof. What a risky investment but god that lineup is stacked.
Neon Cop
They’ll still lose in the first round
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Poor little Neon the troll
Dodgers had a good day
Neon Cop
Just giving you the facts…
CommentsSectionCommenter
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA…..
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Remember goodvibes, elite pitching will always beat elite hitting. That lineup can still be silenced. And it’s not like Betts & Freeman are getting any younger.
CapitalCityGoofball
Big contract, but the merch revenue stream will offset quite a fair amount of that.
Deleted Userr
There are no opt-outs.
GRE
NoHtani in Toronto, didn’t think Carry=on Asskiss could bring Him home…Let the dumpster diving begin …..
LarryJ4
Another reason a salary cap is needed for baseball.
Juggy
There will never be a baseball salary cap. Because people don’t even go to the games now because they say that they’re boring… All these Big market teams have to make all these gigantic moves in order for viewership
Big whiffa
There technically is a soft cap and dodgers are still under so….
outinleftfield
Dodgers are well over the CBT and in order to field a competitive team will be for the next 10 seasons.
Sadler
In other news, Dodger ticket prices have tripled and Coors Light now costs $40 a pint.
ChetLemonaid
They’re lowering their beer prices?
KnicksFanCavsFan
That’s got to be at least $20 mil per then any other player. That’s straight ridiculous and I’msoooo glad the Yanks weren’t involved.
Big whiffa
Right ! His production will never warrant 70 mil w season
outinleftfield
Its $27 million more than the $43 million Verlander and Scherzer are making.
1984wasntamanual
Is that 700m USD or JPY?
Eatdust666
700m USD and in contrast it is equivalent to 101,404,800,000.00 JPY.
DarrenDreifortsContract
It’s nice to know we won’t be winning a world series in the next decade.
I can’t wait until Friedman is finally gone.
Sadler
Friedman isn’t the one okaying a $700M contract.
CommentsSectionCommenter
WHA–???
zack novotny
As a dbacks fan I’m so happy
agnes gooch
Hey zack, as a Giants fan I’m so happy! Cheers!
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
As a Mariners fan I am beyond ecstatic! Ohtani is out of our division and out of our league altogether. Now I can admire him from afar.
This one belongs to the Reds
I guess that 225 million a year in local TV money had to go to something.
Bill Kane
Wow 700 million is an insane amount of money for a DH and a once a week pitcher.
Neon Cop
LOLLLL i thought he wanted to win??
Gmen777
If there’s a team that can afford that it’s the Dodgers but holy moly that’s a lot of $$$ if he isn’t able to pitch at the same level again (although I have little doubt he could be a top tier outfielder).
Baller4mlb
Predicted this one. It was hard seeing him leave LA. Especially with the dodgers payroll it just made too much sense. The 6 didn’t stand a chance
Mrivers
Smoke and mirrors. And savvy work by his agent.
There was never another option.
halloffamernobodycares
1 of 1. Nobody else thought Ohtani was going to the Dodgers. Congratulations!
taxman
Not the Royals?
burrwick
Yes but the Tigers signed Anthony Bemboom!
CO Guardening
Dayum! 10yrs 700mil!
agnes gooch
FTD!!!
gfan
It will be a bit harder to do so, but yes.
Braves Butt-Head
For that kind of money he better have a higher career war than babe Ruth otherwise it’s a huge overpay
snowyphile1
They’re counting on a few good seasons and will eat the bad ones.
DarrenDreifortsContract
No team is eating 7 years/490 million worth of bad seasons. They better be all in and win multiple world series in the next few seasons to justify such a terrible contract.
Braves Butt-Head
Well that’s still not a good strategy only way this pays off is if he makes baseball as a must watch spectical like Michael Jordan did for the NBA in the 90s and he has to be in every commercial like Jordan was. If he is a 4 war player and the dodgers are eliminated in the 1st round then this will be viewed as a failure. And this puts Dave Roberts on the Hot seat if you don’t make the world series then you should be canned.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Atlanta Butt-Head
If the Dodgers sign a $300+ million deal to put all of their games on cable tv or pay per view in Japan, then it was a no-brainer
outinleftfield
Dodgers don’t get that money. All international TV rights are owned by MLB who takes 20% off the top and the rest is split evenly by all 30 teams.
Brick House Coffee Tables Inc
Well that’s anticlimactic.
Not surprised at the $700M at all.
BennyGiant
Im good with it. It makes them even more hateable.
agnes gooch
Love it Benny, I’m right there with you! Go Giants!!!!!
dmp13
I’m a Padres fan and I approve this message
Isaac Allen
As the poet Antonio Brown once said. That’s a whole lotta money.
rct
Wowzers. Yamamoto just shot over $300 million for sure.
Ella B
Yup, Yankees vs Mets and neither team wants to be out-bid. I can see either going totally stupid and offering something along the lines of 12/330. Interesting to see which bidder offers opt-out(s). That can be the difference.
outinleftfield
Yamamoto’s price may have just gone down since the Dodgers are out of the running.
BaseballisLife
I doubt that his price goes down. It might not get to that $300 million, but I can see him getting $25 million AAV and 8-10 years.
86mets
He’s gonna make more than the entire A’s roster!
Yankee Clipper
Boras is celebrating more than Ohtani.
CravenMoorehead
So is California’s government who also just made bank
sufferforsnakes
They’ve already figured out a way to waste their cut. California politicians are nothing if not consistently wasteful.
Joe says...
Does make me wonder what Soto will ask for next year.
CravenMoorehead
Lol Soto gonna ask for Steinbrenner’s Florida home in addition to whatever they offer
YankeesBleacherCreature
$50MM+ AAV now I’m guessing with opt-outs.
outinleftfield
14 years and somewhere around a $45 million AAV. About $625-640 million
beknighted
Let the Cody Bellinger Sweepstakes begin
Rbase
$700 MM? I love Ohtani but $70 MM a year is a huge overpay from a baseball ops perspective.
hossmandu
Rbase – there is a lot more to Ohtani’s value than what he does on the field.
An economist estimated that Ohtani’s world wide economic impact in 2022 was $337MM. Around $30-$40MM of that was direct to the Angels (through increased merchandise sales, ad revenue, and home game ticket sales).
And that was with the ANGELS who have almost zero international awareness. I’ll wager that the Dodgers will make even more $$.
Rbase
Yeah i bet he brings in a lot of revenue too. That’s why i wrote the baseball ops perspective. It’s great for the Dodgers as a franchise too. Good for them
The issue that I have with this is that other free agents are gonna look at this and will ask for a lot more money (“Ohtani was just a glorified DH when he signed” – type arguments), so this speeds up the contract inflation even more and will inevitably force prices for seats/tv/… up faster.
outinleftfield
Hoss, that impact was worldwide, not to the team that signs him. It also included his salary.
It was also wrong about things like merchandise sales. It said $7 million and Ohtani merchandise accounted for only $2.1 million in official MLB merchandise.
For the Dodgers it might add another $20-$25 million per season They don’t have the room to sell the number of tickets and sponsorships that the Angels did. The Angels said he was worth $30 million in additional revenue.
Any international TV money and all merchandise sales is split between all 30 teams.
LouWhitakerHOF
I wonder how much more money Ohtani brings in for a team. I bet they just sold a bunch of season tickets for the Dodgers, plus more tickets bought when the Dodgers are in town for away games.
hossmandu
Most estimates I’ve seen is $30MM to $80MM. And that was with the Angels. I’m sure with the Dodgers (who already have an international fanbase) will make even more. So net-net, that $70mil is more like $30mil for a non-Ohtani player.
outinleftfield
The Angels have said $30 million in 2022 and 2023. The Dodgers don’t have the ability to sell as many as the Angels because their attendance was already so high.
hossmandu
You assume that the Angels and Dodgers have the same revenue per attendee.
In 2023:
The Dodgers had 698,949 excess capacity, the Angels 1,038.258.
Average revenue per attendee (tickets, concessions) – Dodgers $48, Angels $20.
Not saying it will happen, but assuming both the Dodgers and Angels were at capacity every game:
Dodgers would generate an additional $33,549,522 of revenue
Angels would generate an additional $20,765,160
Difference $12,784,392
Point is that every additional ticket Ohtani sells the Dodgers generate $48 in revenue, more than any other team in MLB. And I’d bet that average will go up in 2024.
BaseballisLife
Angels average ticket cost was $48.32. Dodgers $51.50.
Crazy, I know.
hossmandu
That’s the average full price ticket purchased through the club or MLB’s site.. The data used on this page.is based on actual prices people paid, both through primary and secondary markets, and includes promotions. Plus, the average amount spent on concessions. Dodgers were the most expensive, Angels fourth least expensive.
moneygeek.com/living/analysis/cost-for-family-to-a…
Bigtimeyankeefan
That’s effin sick
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Thank you Lord for getting Ohtani out of the AL West and furthermore out of the American League altogether!!! Okay now let’s watch some dominoes fall…
DeusSexMachina
As a Dodgers fan, I’m just happy to know all the trolls and haters from yesterday are eating a big pile of stinky deuces today.
Ticky33
That may be true but that’s all the team is gonna be able to afford to eat after paying that Ridiculously high contract LOL Enjoy the 2 or 24 yearsOf good to okay productionBefore he falls off a cliff and can’t perform at the highest level from the injuries in Tom of John surgeries he’ll be continuing to get that’s going to destroy his arm I mean come on 2 Tommy John Surgeries already before he even signed a contract like that don’t UnderstandHow they can just offer an unbelievable contract like that without a blink of an eyeWho knows maybe there’s a lot of protections in it and a little back loadedDepending on performance and if you can pitch a certain amountI don’t know but good luck to you sir enjoy him While he laughed I’ll be Rooting for you guys Whenever my Tigers are not being competitive Or whatever LOL
iknoweverythingesq
Here’s $5. Buy a few periods, commas and other various forms of punctuation. You’re welcome.
0523me
*and various other forms
chisports18
Your team is going to be eating Mt Rushmore piles of stink giving out that amount of money to one player. No player is worth that I’m sorry.
Cardinals Fan 13
He can afford groceries with that kind of money… lol
CravenMoorehead
Hell he can afford a full tank of gas in a truck with that money
Ticky33
Wooooooooow If that is true that is absolutely ridiculous unbelievably ridiculous I feel so sorry for the dodgers they felt like they had to go that crazy to sign him when No one even knows if he’ll even pitch again and if he does probably won’t be nearly as good as he was before the surgery W**** Dodgers pay in 700 million dollars for a guy who might only be good for another 2 or 3 seasons 4 tops After that He will probably start hitting 230 Watch I bet this upcoming season he ends up batting in the 240s With home runs and the teens maybe mid 20’s I’m telling you this is gonna be the worst contract in the history of baseball I hope they have A Bunch of clause in the contract That protects them a little bit like performance And certain amount of games played/pitched ect. Is a way I wish both the player and the team the best of luck in health in the future
Braveslifer
How much is deferred?
Ella B
That’s the 700 million dollar question. There’s no way the Dodgers aren’t deferring 200 million or more. My guess is 40 million for 10 years with 300 deferred. Then 10 million for 30 years on retirement. Any way you look at it, Othani is going to be rich AF for the rest of his life.
outinleftfield
Doesn’t really matter. Its $70 million AAV.
marcfrombrooklyn
Right. Deferrals don’t affect the CBT payroll calculation. Perhaps, if this was originally going to be $700M/8 or $700M/9, or something close otose, then stretching it to ten years would lower the CBT. Deferrals just help teams’ cashflow. I know players and agents like big numbers, but deferrals just lower the present value of contracts, meaning the team pays less adn the player gets less while the salary for CBT purposes is higher. If they really wanted to lessen the CBT calculation, then figure out the present value of $700M/10 with deferrals and use that significantly lower number as the contract value. Sure, it won’t be $700 million, but the player will effectively get the same amount while the team’s CBT hit would be a lot lower.
Yanks2
Dave Roberts disrespected Ohtani by leaking free agency information but he still signed with them because they offered the most money
AngelFan 3
He said they met with him and he was a priority. Everyone in the world knew that was going to happen. Not a big deal. Hey you got Verdugo. Don’t complain.
Yanks2
Yeah and Roberts knew exactly what he was doing when he opened his mouth
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
I’ve never seen an entire country get trolled like that lol! But 700m WTf??
Thec’s
Just ruined the sport! The salaries are already out of hand, this is ridiculous! Now what will Soto command? Very sad day for baseball
Aiden Awe
Ohtani deserves to get paid.
Camden453
Ohtani on a playoff team is going to be entertaining, no doubt
CravenMoorehead
Blue Jays fans drinking more than they usually do during the day right now
CravenMoorehead
I honestly feel bad for you guys 🙁
WillieMaysHayes24
Why? They avoided the biggest albatross contract in sports history. They can go sign 3 superstars for what the Dodgers just paid for Ohtani.
CravenMoorehead
They got their hopes up about him. Tbh I don’t think that any Jays fans had that insane number in mind tho
WillieMaysHayes24
Yeah I don’t think anyone expected it to reach 700 million. Almost unfathomable to pay one player that much money.
CravenMoorehead
Right lol? That’s Scrooge McDuck bankroll
Jaysfansince92
Won’t happen. The only reason Rogers was willing to shell out that much cash for Ohtani was marketing possibilities. That is why this hurts so much. It was Ohtani or bust and we busted.
CravenMoorehead
Jaysfan,
Keep your head up homie. If it makes you feel better in Sports Talk Baseball for Sega I used to always pick the Jays in that game. What a lineup that was.
HopefulTwinsFan
$700MM over 10 years is disgustingly high, but you gotta give him credit for becoming one of baseball’s most unique talents. Historic signing.
AndyMeyer
The all time overpay
Fenway 1
Hahahaha Toronto!!!!
PadsFan84
I think they’re probably happy after seeing that price tag for a DH.
agnes gooch
Get Yamamoto and Lee now Zaidi! Now!
sacball
At this rate he could probably get Snell too
gfan
Pivot to pitching.
Lee has a lot of Padre ties, so not counting on him much either.
scottn59c
Dream on with Yamamoto. This Ohtani signing is one more wakeup call that no free agent views SF as anything more than a bidder to drive up the price so that they can sign where they really want to be.
reno24
I really wanted the Giants to sign him, but not for $700 million. That’s beyond insanity.
OhioDodger
I thought the Dodgers and AF had more sense than this.
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
You don’t think the Dodger brass ran the numbers and determined that a deferred $700 million was feasible considering the revenues this is going to generate from international marketing and broadcasting? And I’m sure they thoroughly analyzed those medicals and came to the conclusion the risk of injury was worth it.
I really don’t give a petutty what they paid. I’m just stoked about watching the Dodgers in 2024 and beyond..
l9ydodger
R O’Sunnyvalle,
I hear ya on the bean counters crunching the numbers on signing Ohtani. Ownership also probably thinks this gets them over the 4 mil. in attendance next season. However, if they don’t address the starting pitching and a corner outfielder this proves to me they don’t care about winning the World Series. They only care about being just competitive enough to make as much money as possible.
outinleftfield
International broadcasting doesn’t go to the Dodgers. It belongs exclusively to MLB and is split between all 30 teams.
The Dodgers already have al 2024 sponsorships sold out. So that won’t help in 2024. Not sure what international marketing you are talking about. Merchandise sales are split between the manufacturer, MLB, and the MLBPA, and whatever comes in is split evenly by all 30 teams.
Deferrals don’t matter when the AAV is $70 million. That number guarantees that to compete, the Dodgers will have to go over the CBT threshold every season.
Here is the facts about the medicals. Of the 52 pitchers that have had 2 TJ or internal brace procedures, 2 have returned to put up a season with an ERA under 4.00 as a starter. One has pitched as a starter more than 3 seasons after the 2nd procedure, Nathan Eovaldi. Taillon will join that group in 2024.
The odds of Ohtani coming back to be the dominant pitcher he was or of pitching long term in the majors as a starter are rather slim.
BaseballisLife
You have been laying out the facts today.
Chibird3327
Wow just wow I can’t believe I was actually right
Too bad he can’t pitch until 2025
Watch them lose in NLCS like always
Hired Gun 23
I’m glad it’s the Dodgers…
Doug
$70 Million for the “Angels” portion of Albert Pujols career…and maybe he can pitch a little still in a year or so!
CardsFan57
Pujols had none of the marketing appeal of Ohtani.
Indianfan
A guy who can’t (or won’t) speak English, has limited marketing appeal.
CardsFan57
Which one are you talking about? Ohtani has massive world wide marketing appeal.
CommentsSectionCommenter
You can’t actually believe this.
The man is an economy unto himself.
He will likely mean $50M-plus to the LADs in added sponsorships/revenue streams, all by himself.
(And unlike Pujols, Ohtani is actually his stated age.)
BeeCarbo
He should have orchestrated a “Decision” show on ESPN. Come in wearing a Blue Jays cap, Change to a Yankees cap as he sits down, Adjust the mike and put on a Mets cap. Clear his throat and put on a Red Sox cap (jeering from audience).
Suddenly, Dave Roberts appears from behind the curtain with a Dodgers cap. Pure theater. Could have sold millions in advertising.
TAKERDBACKS
sickness. They still won’t win
Digdugler
He was always going to the Dodgers, glad he leveraged them for the cash!
Joirgro 2
What’s the likelihood that after 3 Tommy John surgeries he will be a great pitcher? Does this mean that if a player matches his offense numbers, he can go to arbitration and ask for $70 million per year? I don’t know if intangibles are figured in.
Oldguy58
We all knew a year ago it was going to be the Dodgers. Stretching out the decision and floating the Toronto rumor makes it difficult for them to be charged with tampering. Not that Manfred has the stones to do anything like that
skyrider1011
Ohtani is going to have a harder time winning an MVP in the National League going up against Acuña, Betts, Freeman, Harper and Olson
CommentsSectionCommenter
Or, if (and it’s a BIG if) Ohtani returns to pitching too:
All of those dudes will have a near-impossible time winning the NL MVP….
kingsfan1968
HF! They lost their minds! $30 beers next year at the game!
Legend of Roy Halladay
These contracts are discusting. The average person can barely get by. Atleast famous athletes get compensation for inflation
mattob
Jeff Passan reported it too, so it was definitely true.
Strunk Flugget
Glad the Cubs didn’t bite at that price.
sacball
That rotation in 2025 is going to have three 2x elbow surgery survivors lol
Scott Kliesen
Dodgers will spend more per season on Ohtani than Pirates will on entire 26-man roster. And not one person who is in a position to affect changing this reality will care to do so. Instead they’ll just tell us fans to grin and bear it.
vikingbluejay67
Damn, I was SO EXCITED yesterday.
Feel empty now.
Ma4170
That contract amount is stupid. Having said that, he’s elite and the Dodgers lineup just got very scary, even if it’s top heavy. And if he ever does pitch again near the level he once was, that team is much, much better obviously.
Dtownwarrior78
God I hate the Dodgers and I’m starting to hate MLB. It’s a damn spend-a-thon where teams like the LAD, NYY and a few others control every star. They are distancing themselves from leagues like the NFL where the stars are scattered throughout rather than being on only 5-7 teams. This right here is EXACTLY why NFL is and probably will remain America’s favorite pastime!
Ming312
Ohtani’s $70m AAV compared to the 2023 total payroll for the Pirates ($76m), Orioles ($71m), and A’s ($62m).
BondsAway
I thought Ohtani was going to hold any team that leaks anything against them? Nice empty threat Shohei. Dave Roberts literally did what your camp said not to & you signed with them anyway. It’s whatever, but don’t make stupid threats if you’re not going to follow through. Next 10 years Ohtani will have the following: division titles-10, World Series titles-ZERO!!
sacball
Money talks…
AngelFan 3
Ok Giants fan… sorry it didn’t work out for you.
vivalosdoyers
At least it’s 10 division titles the Giants won’t be winning.
CommentsSectionCommenter
@BondsAway
Hahaha.
What was the leak, bitter Giants fan? That they had a meeting, and that they found Ohtani to be a good dude, and that Ohtani was their top priority?
Watching other teams dance for their supper was pathetic, especially considering not one thing Roberts said was remotely close to a “leak”…..
Texas Outlaw
700 million… I am all for a free market but a world where a sports player get 70 mil a year is insane. Teachers get 50k a year. So do most first responders. I make 100k a year in medical research. Most doctors make 100k a year. I can understand sports and entertainment workers making 5 or 6 times more than the normal person but that’s just out if control bat crap crazy.
getrealgone2
It’s disgusting at this point.
3768902
Bottom 4 team payrolls for 2023:
Pittsburgh, $73,277,500
Tampa Bay, $73,184,811
Baltimore, $60,722,300
Oakland, $56,895,000
[Insert This is Fine Dog]
Big whiffa
What did the A’s spend 57 mil on ??
Salzilla
There ya go! Perfect fit! I say that as a Yankees fan too. Love the player and as a Brooklyn guy LAD was always kind ofva secondary team for me. Jersey incoming!
mlbdodgerfan2015
I guess there won’t be a luxury tax reset anytime soon. LOL.
ThonolansGhost
Congrats to Ohtani. I personally think it’s an overpay, but only time will tell.
monostereo
Not much – if anything – in this insane world shocks me anymore.
700 million shocks me.
LeeJPC
10 years, $700 million is a $70 million cap hit each year. Can’t be lowered, even if in reality one year is $100 million, another is $1 million. Doesn’t make ANY sense mentioning the deferral helps them have more money to fill out the roster. Am I wrong? It’s by AAV, not the actual total, that affects the salary cap, correct?
Simm
It will lower payroll each year I’m not sure how the tax works but it better counts during the years since it’s a 10 year deal
baseballfan1
My understanding is the AAV for luxury tax purposes is calculated using the actual present value of the deal, which with the significant deferrals mentioned sounds like is considerably less than $700 million.
BaseballisLife
AAV for CBT is simple. How much money total? How many years?
In this case its $70 million AAV.
Deferred money makes no difference in AAV for CBT.
Fraham_
Big overpay!
Astros2017&22Champs
700 million for a glorified dh. Dodgers are a joke. Guy has 2 elbow surgeries before 30. Love him but he’s a greedy mercenary.
JackStrawb
Why is he a merc? He may have wanted to go to the Dodgers anyway?
FORTUITY HAPPENS.
big_balls_mahoney
Was there ever really a doubt it would be the dodgers? Insane pay day. Congrats to him. Are the dodgers gonna be the new halos tho? Paying 3-4 guys so much they can’t pay anyone else?
MotownWings
Cleveland was runner up right?
"Sixth City" Guards
Would you all stop with that cleveland stuff? It’s old. Grow up. This is about Ohtani and LAD. Let them have their moment because it’s the best one for awhile.
MotownWings
Thanks for the advice snowflake. A grown up would’ve just ignored my comment and carried on. The irony oozes throughout your self righteousness.
Salad Daze 22-27
Good luck ever getting under luxury task threshold now. As a Dodger fan though, will be entertaining if he succeeds or doesn’t.
and that silent gasp you are hearing is Dave Roberts, who’s job has just been saved 🙂
kingbum
Nobody read that Ohtani will be deferring most of this contract. This means that he will be paid later like Ken Griffey Jr and Bobby Bonilla. It also means he intends to give the Dodgers flexibility to move under the cap if they deem it necessary, which right now clearly they don’t. Smart move Ohtani
Simm
Don’t think the tax number can be deferred. It’s 70m on the tax line the next 19 years even if he is paid for 49 more years
kingbum
OK, even if the tax number isn’t changed it affects actual payroll yearly. It’s not an albatross if it’s spread out in reality. If they paid the man 40 million next year and deferred 30 million even if the tax number is 70M that 30 million saved that year from deferment will go towards paying the tax they are over in reality.
BaseballisLife
They will still have a $70 million AAV for Ohtani towards the CBT. They will not be able to get under that threshold in 2024. In fact, if they sign Kershaw for the same money as last season they will be at $274 million in CBT payroll.
aragon
Holy Cow! Great for him and will blow up for the Dodgers!
CardsFan57
This is not just a player contract. This is a business merger. Both sides are going to maximize the merchandizing and brand growth to unheard of levels. The Dodgers will now own the MLB merchandizing market in Japan as well as other markets around the world. The contract can’t be compared to any other contract. No other player has the same world wide appeal. Ohtani has much more in common with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods than with Bryce Harper and Aaron Judge.
BaseballisLife
All merchandising is split between MLB and the MLBPA and that is split between all 30 teams.
It will help every team equally.
bruinlife33
I thought the Dodgers needed pitching?
scottn59c
They still do, but their offseason is just getting going. Adding Ohtani to the fold will be very attractive to other FA’s.
JackStrawb
Oops!
jmaggio76
really… just not worth 700 or 70 per… maybe 45-50… but this is just stupid and absurd. I see 5-6 years if lucky actually pitching. 5-6 years competitive offense. paying all this money and in year 7, they’ll want to get out of this contract. 70 mil for a DH… just… wow. yes, I DO BELIEVE he will be great in LA for next 3-4 years… while Betts and Freeman are part of that lineup. but eventually that 70 is going to so badly handcuff this team.again, just my opinion
Baseball_dude
Boring – obvious – and generic. Let’s move on
KyleT
For the Dodgers: Greatest move ever for the next two years, followed by 8 years of regret. Ohtani keeping his value and justifying a $70M cap hit is almost impossible.
JMO.
D2323
8 years? It will be 30 years of regret. They deferred the contract, Bobby Bonilla style. They’ll be paying Ohtani into his late 50s, and taking luxury tax hits off it too.
scottn59c
Like they care. They’re stacked with money and talent.
Highwaymenace
Hardly, had to defer payments because the league told them they were in too much debt.
Comet
Jim and Tammy Fay welcome you to the club.
acoss13
700 million, daamn that’s a lot more than the projections. I feel like a bidding war ensued and Dodgers flexed hard.
Well, I knew my Cubbies weren’t getting him, so congratulations Dodgers fans enjoy a generational talent!
aragon
Only for a while, though.
MC Tim C
Have fun with that contract Dodgers! LOL
Where are all the Dodgers fans from yesterday that claimed to be relieved and said it was an overpay when they thought he was signing with Toronto?
OhioDodger
Right here and I am not happy. I wonder what is left to get starting pitching?
CaseyAbell
Apparently a lot of the money is deferred. The Dodgers will probably be paying Ohtani a ton of bucks for fifty years. Will be interesting to see how many good years they get from him.
As always money talked. I doubt that any other team got within $100 million of this offer. Well, at least L.A. will set an attendance record in 2024.
CardsFan57
They will be selling Ohtani jerseys in Japan for 50 years
ateam043
As a Dodgers fan, I already don’t like this contract. That’s a massive overpay.
halloffamernobodycares
go cheer for the Angels then
UncommonSense
I’m sorry Jays fans. That sucks! Reporters playing with your emotions. You still have a great team and great country.
DonnieMoore
Leaving exactly 7 dollars for pitching. Unless of course they raise prices which they would never do. I guess I won’t be going to dodger Stadium anytime soon once again.
UncommonSense
Everything you just said is made up and has no basis in fact
DonnieMoore
It’s called sarcasm.
CheapazMariners
John Stanton #selltheteam #boycottthemariners
clausen366@gmail.com 2
every single team that tried to sign him should be grateful they didn’t.
My Strawman > Your Strawman
Maybe they’ll give Bryce Harper a new deal too
Wrian Washman
Juan Soto is looking at $600 million now.
CardsFan57
Juan Soto doesn’t have one tenth of the marketing value of Ohtani. Marketability drove this contract.
outinleftfield
And he is going to get it. Because of his age he will get 14 years and he will get a minimum of Scherzer/Verlander money and likely $45 million AAV. That is well over $600 million.
BaseballisLife
I read that the Padres offered Soto 15/540 prior to trading him. That is a $36 million AAV and he wouldn’t sign for that. I think its a sign his agent is telling him he can get much more than that in free agency.
ksoze
lol, glad it wasn’t us
Bill nd
Can he now afford to cook his sushi, lol
Juggy
Hahahahaaha Bluejays got Duped
CubsWin108
wow
ATLbravos
Good luck braves
Brew’88
every now and then we’re reminded which team has the most money in MLB. We’ll see if this buys them a much coveted WS
OhioDodger
DUMB!!!
Americanentropy
LA still needs pitching and a decent 3B.
UncommonSense
Muncy is fine at 3rd
But pitching is needed x2
ohyeadam
No wonder Harper is asking for an extension
sufferforsnakes
Bad for baseball. Stupid, even.
This one belongs to the Reds
They just ruined the future of the sport, for sure.
Aiden Awe
Nah.
"Sixth City" Guards
Blue Jays fans may not think it now but breathe a sigh of relief that you are not on the hook for that contract. That’s a missed dodged bullet.
sangroazul
This one’s for all the pr*cks that commented yesterday,”At least it’s not the Dodgers.” lol…LOLOLOLOLOLOL
chisports18
No player is worth that…I’m sorry. This contract just ruined the sport. I’m getting Deshaun Watson vibes with this.
UncommonSense
Why is the argument always the players don’t deserve that much money, but no one ever talks about the team not deserving to keep that much money for themselves and profit. The players are the one bringing in the fans and playing the game. The owners aren’t doing anything.
JackStrawb
@UncommonSense Of course people talk about it—my claim is that we need a confiscatory tax rate on all income over $50 million, that no private money should be allowed in politics, that workers should control the means of production, and that all elections should feature only paper ballots.
Tens of millions of Americans agree with me, but do you think corporate media leads with this kind of thing?
BaseballisLife
As long as revenue keeps going up in MLB, players should keep making more.
TennVol
Best guess is that the Jays were driving up the price to insane levels and he kept going back to the Dodgers saying, “can you beat this”. Finally the Jays said no mas and the Dodgers got him. At the very least, the Jays took his price to a point that will hurt the Dodgers in the long run.
UncommonSense
In five years this contract will look like a bargain when everyone’s being paid 50 million a year. It’s the nature of the sport and the amount of revenue coming into it on a yearly basis. The players just want their fair share.
MC Tim C
LMAO this contract is never going to look like a bargain.
outinleftfield
In ten years the top 3-4 players will likely be getting deals around this amount of AAV. Most will still be getting far less.
BaseballisLife
At the same rate of salary inflation from the past 10 years, in 2033 the top salary in the game will be around $72 million.
Ohtani will still be one of the highest paid players in the game.
Beff Jagwell
MLB games are already expensive for most fans, but these contracts are going to continue pushing tickets prices higher and higher, similar to the NBA. The sport will eventually suffer when attendance drops due to the inability to feasibly afford attending. As of now, a family of four will spend, on average, $200-250 per game (including parking). That’s not sustainable at current levels, so you can imagine how it will go when more of these absurd contracts are doled out.
eeddiiee909
enjoy paying $300 noise bleed tickets at dodger stadium per game
KcsMsFan
The Dodgers are living proof that the MLB needs to work on creating a competitive balance in the league. If you continue to let the teams like the Dodgers go out and throw endless amounts of money at attempting to buy championships, you will continue to watch small market teams flounder and struggle to bring in and hold fans. The luxury tax is a joke and does absolutely nothing.
West Coast Blue Jay
1000% agree with you. MLB needs to do something to bring some balance. Used to be like that in the NHL with a few elite spending teams now the cap has made it possible for any team to ice a winning team. Way more fun for the fans. You need smart management to win as well. I think MLB Owners should do whatever it takes to have a salary cap in the next CBA – lockout or whatever for however long it takes.
kingbum
There are some owners that don’t want the cap, the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, and Cubs for example would rather keep Pittsburgh, Tampa, and Oakland at a disadvantage….
aragon
It is a relief. Now we get to enjoy real offseason.
YanksPhan42
Dumbest contract in the history of MLB. YES, he may be the single greatest talent in MLB history……but he would have blown the field away at $500 million. After two TJ’s and going into his 30’s, who knows what happens if he takes the bump again. That’s roughly $430K PER GAME whether he plays or not, let that sink in.
Freakin Cali people destroyed the housing market here in Nashville and now they just destroyed it for MLB. Soto is going to want $600 mil now after he hits the same as Ohtani next year. UGH!
JackStrawb
@YanksPhan42 Even with the pitching thrown in Ohtani has yet to beat Willie May’s six best seasons… once. Not once.
RazorRamonie
Booooooooooooooo
bcjd
No surprise there.
West Coast Blue Jay
I think its ridiculous and unfair if the Dodgers can defer salary and avoid paying massive luxury taxes on their crazy team payroll. Baseball is becoming a complete joke contract wise. No salary cap and teams can defer salary and avoid the only other supposed team payroll controls that was supposed to help provide a more competitive playing field.
toptimrubies
that’s not how it works.
West Coast Blue Jay
Per the article above “most of” Ohtani’s salary will be deferred, as suggested by Ohtani himself. The intent is so that the Dodgers can continue to spend and add talent while somewhat lowering the luxury tax hit.
Veejh
Not how it works. $70M will count per season for 10 years against the cap.
LeeJPC
I have no idea why writers who have covered MLB for a long, long time are putting that out there. The salary cap goes by AAV, so it’s $70M each year. Doesn’t fluctuate each year to open up more/less space.
JackStrawb
Maybe, but it would be odd for the Dodgers not to spread the $700m out over 12, 13, 15 years, as many as they can get away with, unless there some as yet unrevealed advantage to sticking to 10 years.
Jaysfansince92
Apparently is it based on the present value of the contract. Since a lot of money is deferred that lowers the present day value so the cap hit goes down. Someone already posted the part of the CBA that covers that.
BaseballisLife
Its based on AAV. Deferred money doesn’t factor into that at all. Article XXIII Section E of the CBA.
DanUgglasRing
I don’t think it’s an overpay especially if a large part of it is deferred. If it’s some situation where they’ll be paying into the Ohtani Trust 12mm a year for thirty years after his playing days I think this will be seen as a minimal impact to the dodgers long term. Huge win for the team I hate the most with now four of my favorite guys to watch. I’m gonna be sick.
toptimrubies