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Offseason In Review: Toronto Blue Jays

By Mark Polishuk | March 27, 2024 at 5:35pm CDT

The Blue Jays’ offseason was defined by who they didn’t sign rather than who they did sign, as they came up short in their pursuit of Shohei Ohtani.

Major League Signings

  • Yariel Rodriguez, SP/RP: Five years, $32MM (Rodriguez can opt out after 2027 season, Blue Jays can then exercise $10MM club option for 2027 season)
  • Isiah Kiner-Falefa, IF/OF: Two years, $15MM
  • Justin Turner, 1B/3B: One year, $13MM
  • Kevin Kiermaier, OF: One year, $10.5MM

2024 spending: $41MM
Total spending: $70.5MM

Option Decisions

  • Chad Green, RP: Blue Jays exercised two-year, $21MM club option covering 2024-25 seasons
  • Whit Merrifield, 2B/OF: Both sides declined $18MM mutual option ($500K buyout)

Trades & Claims

  • Acquired minor league RHP Chris McElvain from Reds for IF Santiago Espinal
  • Acquired cash considerations from Giants for IF/OF Otto Lopez
  • Acquired LHP Brendon Little from Cubs for cash considerations
  • Claimed C Brian Serven off waivers from Cubs

Notable Minor League Signings

  • Joey Votto, Daniel Vogelbach (contract selected), Paolo Espino, Mike Mayers, Payton Henry, Eduardo Escobar (released)

Extensions

  • None

Notable Losses

  • Matt Chapman, Jordan Hicks, Hyun Jin Ryu, Jay Jackson, Adam Cimber, Tyler Heineman, Brandon Belt (still unsigned)

December 8, 2023 will be remembered as one of the most unusual days in Blue Jays history, as reports from J.P. Hoornstra of Dodger Nation and MLB Network’s Jon Morosi indicated that Ohtani had either signed with the Jays, or was on a flight to Toronto to make the deal official.  It led to a few fevered hours of speculation around the baseball world before a lack of confirmation on these early reports eventually acted as a reality check, with Morosi retracting his earlier message on X.  The next day, Ohtani officially announced on his own Instagram page that he had signed with the Dodgers, thus ending the Blue Jays’ chances once and for all.

Subsequent reports indicated that the Jays made a comparable offer to the 10 years and (heavily-deferred) $700MM Ohtani received from Los Angeles.  Even if the Dodgers might’ve been Ohtani’s first choice if all else was equal, it appears as though the Blue Jays and possibly the Giants were viewed as legitimately viable alternative destinations if contract talks with L.A. didn’t go smoothly.

It’s possible that Toronto fans might feel a little better about not landing Ohtani now than they did a week ago, before news broke of the controversial and possibly explosive allegations involving Ohtani’s ex-interpreter Ippei Mizuhara, an illegal gambling operation, and funds allegedly taken from Ohtani’s personal bank accounts to cover Mizuhara’s debts.  However, losing Ohtani was soon followed up by Los Angeles signing another top Jays target in Yoshinobu Yamamoto, even if Toronto wasn’t reportedly one of the true finalists for Yamamoto’s services — and certainly not to the level of the Dodgers’ massive 12-year, $325MM commitment to the Japanese ace.

The one-two punch of missing out on Ohtani and Yamamoto only increased the discord that has existed within the fanbase through much of the 2023 season, and reached a fever pitch when sloppy baserunning, a continued lack of hitting, and an infamous pitching change combined to quickly sweep Toronto out of its wild card series matchup with the Twins.  Jays GM Ross Atkins isn’t going to make an ill-advised splashy move just for the sake of positive headlines, yet just from a baseball perspective, questions have to asked about whether the Toronto roster is better now than it was at the end of last season.

As has been the Blue Jays’ habit over the last few offseasons, the club was linked to a wide range of available players.  Beyond Ohtani and Yamamoto, multiple reports suggested the Jays had some degree of interest in the likes of free agents Cody Bellinger, Aaron Nola, Blake Snell, J.D. Martinez, Jeimer Candelario, Jorge Soler, Joc Pederson, Michael Brantley, Rhys Hoskins, Gio Urshela, Michael A. Taylor, Amed Rosario, Domingo German, and their own incumbent free agent in Matt Chapman.  On the trade front, the Blue Jays reportedly looked into deals involving such players as Juan Soto, Eugenio Suarez, Isaac Paredes, Dylan Carlson, Jonathan India, and Jake Cronenworth, with the first two of those names actually changing teams in other deals.

The slow-moving nature of the free agent market means that the Blue Jays probably didn’t really miss out on many opportunities while focusing primarily on Ohtani for the offseason’s first five weeks.  Hindsight being 20-20, it can be argued that the Jays should’ve or could’ve pushed more to acquire Soto than Ohtani, though there’s no guarantee that the Jays were willing to match or exceed the pitching-centric trade package the Yankees needed to pry Soto away from the Padres.  As much as the fans were begging for a big strike, cleaning out an already thin farm system to land Soto might not have been feasible for the Jays in the long run.

Kevin Kiermaier was a free agent for the second consecutive winter but again ended up signing a one-year deal with Toronto, returning for a $10.5MM salary and a raise on his previous $9MM deal.  Heading into the offseason, the conventional wisdom was that the Blue Jays might let Kiermaier walk, in order to install Daulton Varsho in center field and a bigger bat into Varsho’s old left field spot.  However, the Jays will instead run it back with the outfield of Varsho, Kiermaier, and George Springer, hoping for a repeat of the group’s excellent defense and overall good health, and a notable improvement at the plate from at least Varsho and Springer.  (And if Kiermaier can top his solid 2023 slash line of .265/.322/.419 in 408 plate appearances, all the better.)

As for re-signing Chapman, Toronto monitored his market and made a late two-year offer before the third baseman signed with the Giants.  Chapman’s rather unusually long stint in free agency probably created this eleventh-hour possibility of a reunion, as it otherwise seemed like the Blue Jays somewhat moved on from Chapman when they signed Isiah Kiner-Falefa to a two-year, $15MM contract.

The price tag raised eyebrows, as Kiner-Falefa’s bat has been well below average (81 wRC+) over his six MLB seasons and 2415 career PA.  A Gold Glove winner as the Rangers’ third baseman in 2020, IKF’s defense has generally graded as average to very good at multiple positions, even if he naturally won’t match Chapman’s elite glovework.

Having Kiner-Falefa as a semi-everyday player is probably not an ideal move for an already inconsistent lineup, though the Blue Jays’ rather fluid second base/third base/backup infield collection of IKF, Cavan Biggio, Davis Schneider, and Ernie Clement could see all four players mixing and matching between the two positions.  Kiner-Falefa and Clement can also back up Bo Bichette at shortstop, and the out-of-options Clement performed well enough in Spring Training that the Jays felt comfortable enough to trade Santiago Espinal to the injury-riddled Reds last week.

Of course, Justin Turner also figures to get some time at the hot corner, even if Turner was signed to primarily fill Brandon Belt’s role as a part-time first baseman and DH.  Turner has been on the Jays’ radar for years as a free agent target, and the two sides finally came together on a one-year deal worth $13MM.  Even as he enters his age-39 season, Turner has remained a consistently productive hitter, including 23 homers and a .276/.345/.455 slash line over 626 PA for the Red Sox in 2023.

Turner is expected to play pretty close to every day at either third, first, or DH, while Vladimir Guerrero Jr. will naturally also be a lineup staple as the first baseman or designated hitter.  When a right-hander is on the mound, spring non-roster invite Daniel Vogelbach figures to get some time in the DH spot, as his minor league contract has now been selected to the Opening Day roster.  Vogelbach doesn’t have much utility as a DH-only player who can’t hit left-handed pitching, though his lefty bat does bring some balance to a lineup and bench mix that continues to tilt to the right side.  Re-signing Kiermaier brought at least one left-handed hitter back into the fold, but Kiermaier, Vogelbach, Biggio, and Varsho (none of whom are exactly premium bats) represent the current allotment of lefty swingers on the projected roster.

Joey Votto’s possible inclusion could change this picture in terms of upside if not numbers, as if Votto’s minors deal is selected to the active roster, he would surely just replace Vogelbach.  It would be a storybook ending if Votto could revive his career for at least one more big season with his hometown team, but while the 17-year veteran has been very forthright about his confidence in himself, Votto is also realistic about the challenges he’ll face in getting back to anything close to his old form after two injury-plagued seasons.  Votto will need time to ramp up in the minors, and he’ll also first have to recover from an ankle injury suffered after he homered in his lone Spring Training plate appearance in a Blue Jays uniform.

Between Turner, Vogelbach, and rolling the dice on Votto, the Jays apparently felt ok in moving on from Belt, as there were no public indications that Toronto had interest in re-signing arguably its best hitter from the 2023 season.  Alejandro Kirk also figures to get some DH at-bats over the course of the season, though he’ll be strictly a catcher in the early going while Danny Jansen recovers from a minor wrist fracture.  Offseason waiver claim Brian Serven will now break camp as Kirk’s backup catcher while Jansen heals.

Turning to the pitching staff, the Blue Jays’ priciest signing of the winter wasn’t Ohtani or Yamamoto, but rather another name from Japan….via Cuba.  Yariel Rodriguez posted a 3.30 ERA over 464 1/3 innings and six seasons in Cuba’s Serie Nacional before then delivering a 3.03 ERA in 175 1/3 frames for Nippon Professional Baseball’s Chunichi Dragons from 2020-22.  Rodriguez sat out the 2023 season while trying to arrange his move to MLB, so the year’s layoff is another x-factor on top of the usual questions about how a player’s skills will translate from international baseball to the Show.

Multiple teams scouted and considered Rodriguez this winter, with the Blue Jays among the group who liked him as a starting pitcher rather than as a reliever.  With Bowden Francis winning the fifth starter’s job coming out of Spring Training, it appears as though Rodriguez will begin the season in Triple-A, acting as rotation depth and continuing to acclimate to his new league.  Even with a five-year contract and at least a $32MM investment in Rodriguez, the Blue Jays are willing to be patient in getting Rodriguez fully ready for the bigs before deploying him as a starter, reliever, or swingman.

While the Jays signed Rodriguez and kicked the tires on some other free agent arms, Toronto is largely standing pat with its same pitching staff from 2023.  This isn’t a bad move considering how the rotation and bullpen were both strengths last season, though there is some added risk since the odds are against another year of largely good pitcher health.  Already some cracks have shown since Jordan Romano and Erik Swanson will start the year on the 15-day injured list, and Kevin Gausman had a bout of shoulder fatigue earlier in camp but now seems on pace to be part of the Opening Day roster.

Alek Manoah remains the biggest uncertainty on the roster, as Manoah’s spring work consisted of one rough outing (four earned runs in 1 2/3 innings) before being sidelined with shoulder soreness.  In the wake of Manoah’s disastrous 2023 season, the Blue Jays simply don’t know what to expect from Manoah going forward, making it even more important that Francis, Rodriguez, Mitch White, and perhaps eventually top prospect Ricky Tiedemann can work as depth starter or fifth starter options.  This in turn puts more pressure on Gausman, Jose Berrios, Chris Bassitt, and Yusei Kikuchi to stay healthy and effective so any other leaks don’t spring in the rotation.

Adding clear-cut starters or even lower-level pitchers on inexpensive guaranteed contracts or minor league deals might’ve been tricky for the Blue Jays this winter, as such pitchers probably preferred to join teams with clearer potential rotation or bullpen openings.  In a nutshell, already having a core in place might’ve limited what Toronto was willing or able to do with both its pitching staff and perhaps the roster as a whole.

Breaking the bank for Ohtani or Yamamoto in a special circumstance was one thing, but the Jays were generally conservative in boosting the payroll.  After a $214.5MM payroll and a $246MM luxury tax number in 2023 (putting them over the tax line for the first time ever), the Blue Jays are estimated by RosterResource for a $226MM payroll and a $248.7MM luxury tax figure heading into Opening Day.  While they might not have spent much this winter, this does leave the team with some flexibility to add money at the trade deadline when they have a better sense of their immediate needs.  It isn’t known whether or not the second tax penalty tier of $257MM represents any kind of internal spending limit, but given how this team has been so aggressive in recent years, it would be surprising if the front office suddenly held back if a key upgrade was available.

If the Blue Jays were ultimately content to just tinker with their roster, however, it puts even more pressure on their core group to step up after a curiously lackluster 2023 season.  Atkins said in early January that “We feel like last year was just a blip in terms of run-scoring,” and yet while any of Springer, Varsho, Guerrero, or Kirk could rebound, counting on them all to bounce back is perhaps a little too optimistic since there was no obvious answer as to why the quartet were all so inconsistent last year.

Between this group, Kiner-Falefa’s lack of offense, and the uncertainty within the second base and backup infield mix, it isn’t a stretch to say that Bichette and Turner are the club’s only real reliable bats heading into the year.  Perhaps some coaching changes might do the trick, as bench coach Don Mattingly has a new title of “offensive coordinator” and Matt Hague has joined the staff as an assistant hitting coach.

Even with back-to-back playoff disappointments in the last two seasons, the Jays still think their core group is capable of bigger and better things.  Without a ton of overt upgrades coming this winter, however, the Blue Jays will face a challenge in just getting back to the playoffs, let alone making some postseason noise.

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  1. BetterMuppet:JUDGEorKERMIT?

    1 year ago

    No one say shatkins……I dare you

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  2. Rudy Zolteck

    1 year ago

    This team gives me the same sinking feeling that the Brewers do, where you watch and really have to wonder if the wheels are going to come off. I don’t think they’ll be the White Sox, but maybe like a more expensive Cleveland that just couldn’t put enough fingers in the dam last year.

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    • getrealgone2

      1 year ago

      Seems like they will need everything to go exactly right for them to succeed. One injury or a couple of struggling guys and it’s curtains.

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      • Rudy Zolteck

        1 year ago

        Yeah, so I’m not alone then. I may just be a total pessimist, but you just have those teams every so often where they enter with expectations, or even a track record, and it just flops. And if I had to pick a team that might do that, this would be it. Like, who’s going to pull the 2023 Cardinals, the 2022 White Sox (or I guess Red Sox), and so on

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    • Cora the Destroya

      1 year ago

      They’ve been like this for years only I think they’ve really downgraded this year. Turner is not going to give you Chapman at third and they replaced other players with cheap free agents.

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      • bucsfan0004

        1 year ago

        Turner didnt replace Chapman, he replaced Belt, which is a significant upgrade
        IKF replaced Chapman, which is a lateral move. Chapman batted around .190 last year after his first month. I expect Kiner-Falefa to make more contact and be a very good 8th place hitter

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      • MysteryWhiteBoy

        1 year ago

        Turners Bat was better than Chapmans last year. Turner had 6 more homers and 42 more rbi than Chapman did. Falefa’s defense will help replace some defensive value, but Turner was brought into replace Belt, it will be Schneider and Clement who replace Chapman and Whit

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        • NoSaint

          1 year ago

          Turner had a wRC+ less than 120 while Belt had a wRC+ over 130. Turner was not a more productive batter than Belt.

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        • Canuckleball

          1 year ago

          Correct, but Turner’s value is derived from hitting while one of Belt’s main values is taking walks.

          Walks are worth less when the guys behind you don’t hit you in, like last year. Turner is more of an actual run producer/generator while Belt is a better table setter

          The Jays needed more ‘Turner’ type hitters last year.

          Overall, Belt was the better hitter, but Turner might be more useful to this offense.

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        • MysteryWhiteBoy

          1 year ago

          Turner played 40 more games than Belt had more than double the RBIs and struck out 30 times less. Belt had a bunch of empty stats

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        • NoSaint

          1 year ago

          @MysteryWhiteBoy

          RBI’s are a function of someone being on base if the batter gets a hit, not because there is someone on base. RBI’s are not a good stat to measure the productivity of a plate appearance.

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        • MysteryWhiteBoy

          1 year ago

          Or they are also a measure of someone that hits with players on base or in scoring position or someone who hits homers with people on base. Or just gets more hits in general, Belt had a measly 43 RBI’s last season, lets not pretend like his high walk percentage was going to drive in runs

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        • terrymesmer

          1 year ago

          Belt did all his good deeds with the bases empty.

          Belt, 2023
          Men On: .660 OPS
          RISP: .705 OPS

          Turner, 2023
          Men On: .894 OPS
          RISP: .943 OPS

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          Belt’s best job is to stay on the IL. Although I’m not impressed with their offseason, getting rid of Belt is a plus. The guy is a staple for the IL

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          1 year ago

          .705 prob led the team last year

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          The point is though, the Jays have to improve in that division and I honestly don’t think they got substantially better

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        • Cora the Destroya

          1 year ago

          Belt did all his deeds by going on the IL.

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        • Jaysfansince92

          1 year ago

          @NoSaint To be fair Turner played everyday against both LHP and RHP while Belt was shielded against LHP (he had a .572 OPS against them last year and his career OPS vs.LHP is around .100 less than against RHP). Had Belt been forced to face those LHP his wRC+ would have taken a hit.

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        • NoSaint

          1 year ago

          @Jaysfansince92

          Well it sounds pretty smart to keep him away from lefties. Let’s see if they’re smart enough to do the same thing with Varsho. Oh wait they don’t have an established RHH OF to platoon with him.

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  3. White Sox Suck (2-14, shutout 5x)

    1 year ago

    Under option decisions you forgot
    Ohtani and his interpreter signing with the dodgers and letting them deal with that scandal.

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    • NYCityRiddler

      1 year ago

      I’ll make this short & sweet. Atkins is a clown, D. Next! Ahahaha!

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  4. Cora the Destroya

    1 year ago

    I gave them a D. I honestly think they have downgraded everywhere positionally. I think they get 4th place in the division behind Yankees, Orioles, and Rays (not in any particular order).

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  5. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    Really a poor offseason considering the expectations going into it. Kalefa might have been the worst signing of any. Manoah and the team had a fractured relationship and they should have parted ways imo. Chapman ended up signing for money I have to think the Jays offered as much or more for at one time. Not much good to say about what they did.

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  6. NoSaint

    1 year ago

    A D from me. The IFK signing was bizarre. They did add pitching depth with a couple of additions (most notably Rodriguez). They failed to add a righty OF bat to pair with Varsho/KK. I think they got worse. If they would have stayed the same, they would have gotten a C.

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    • MysteryWhiteBoy

      1 year ago

      Clement and Schneider are the righty bats to pair with Varsho and KK and they can also play the infield

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      • NoSaint

        1 year ago

        @MysteryWhiteBoy

        Both are pretty much career MiLB infielders. Schneider did get some reps in left during the offseason so that should be ok :oS

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        • MysteryWhiteBoy

          1 year ago

          Maybe, until they aren’t. Both earned a chance to prove they can play. Schneider is 25 years old. The Jays need to replace a whopping 28 homes and 121 RBI’s that Chapman and Whit combined for last year

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        • NoSaint

          1 year ago

          @MysteryWhiteBoy

          Maybe doesn’t cut it when a team is in a contention window. Look at the stats of Robbie Grossman and Aaron Hicks against LHP over their past couple hundred PA’s. IIRC correctly, they’re both signed for the ML minimum.

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        • MysteryWhiteBoy

          1 year ago

          They made the playoffs last year with Chapman and Whit combining for 28 homers and 121 RBI’s. They also had down years from Vlad, Kirk and Varsho. You wanna bet that Schneider and Clement combine for more homers and RBI’s than those 2 did.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          Schneider better figure it out because his bat was soft all spring. He made a case to be starting in Buffalo.

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  7. greg1

    1 year ago

    Other than the pursuit of Ohtani, what else of note did the Jays do/try to do?

    Sure, if they were in the AL Central, this offseason would have been fine. You’re trying to compete in the AL East though, which means playing for one of the last 1-2 WC spots.

    This team is one middling year away from tearing it down and starting over. This should have been an offseason where they took a chance on something bigger, but Riccardi seems to think he’s still with the Indians.

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  8. MysteryWhiteBoy

    1 year ago

    I certainly don’t believe this team got much better over last years team, but I do think its better. The pitching was a positive last season and as long as Gausman, Berrios and Bassitt stay healthy, that should help maintain the floor from last season, hopefully Kikuchi can replicate his season, or at the very least Manoah can settle into a reliable 3 or 4 type starter and one of either Francis or eventually Tiedemann show they belong.

    On offense, I’m more than happy replacing Belt with Turner, and to be honest Whit and Chapman combined for a total of 28 homers and 121 rbi’s. I believe that between Biggio, Schneider and Clement we will probably get closer to 40 to 60 homers and 150 plus rbi’s from the 2nd and 3rd base positions. That doesn’t include any improvements from Vlad, Kirk or Varsho, plus the potential Votto x factor.

    It’s definitely not leaps and bounds better, but I can definitely see a better offensive team this year

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    • Theodore

      1 year ago

      You guys are all dreamers if you believe management that this team will hit more than they did last year.
      Here are couple of stats for you even though it is early

      HR. RBI
      Hernández. 4 7
      Gurriel. 3 10
      —————————-
      7 17

      Blue Jays. 6 19

      And it will not get any better with Shapiro and Atkins

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  9. Fraham_

    1 year ago

    JD martinez, Urshela, Michael Taylor are arguably collectively better than Turner, IKF, and Kiermaier and could’ve been signed for half the price.

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  10. Wrian Washman

    1 year ago

    Heart skipped a beat when I heard he was going to be a Blue Jay. Might have singlehandedly made the Yankees a 3rd place team in that division.

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  11. case

    1 year ago

    Bizarre overpays for Kiermaier and Falefa, but love the Turner/Rodriguez signings and nabbing Votto on a minor league deal. B-

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    • Canuckleball

      1 year ago

      Kevin Kiermaier generated 3.9 WAR last season and he won another gold glove. How is $10.5 million for one more season an overpay?

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      • case

        1 year ago

        because it’s hard to take the math behind WAR seriously, he’s been an offensive liability for 4 of the past 6 years, and the market values for mid grade players has been way down this offseason.

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        • Dustyslambchops23

          1 year ago

          Harrison Bader has been a worse player in pretty much every way compared to KK, and got 10.5 on a 1 year deal. CF is very much a scarce position and if you can play stellar d and get close to 100 OPS, you have a 10 mil contract waiting for you.

          That being said, signing KK keeps Varsho in Lf, where his bat doesn’t play, so while I don’t think they overpaid KK, I don’t think he fits the team make up, and they should have brought in a proper corner outfield bat.

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        Did they need Kiermaier or a bat? What was the priority?

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        • KamKid

          1 year ago

          Kiermaier seemed pretty rushed. Varsho is every bit as capable in CF as Kiermaier and shopping for an offensive upgrade in the OF would have been one way to address the lineup. Bringing him back was fine but probably should have been followed up with a right handed OF lefty mashing specialist to platoon with one of the left handed OFs. Or at least more bat than IKF at 3B. Or more power than Turner at DH.

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        • case

          1 year ago

          Rays have used gold gloved CF’s to great effect when covering for some strong offense/weak defense corner OF players. Varsho seems redundant though, 2 weak offensive OF is really limiting the offensive potential of the lineup.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          Kam, I think real scouts know Varsho is an overrated defender and feel he is better suited in LF as the metrics don’t measure his deficiencies properly.

          However, I’d rather they moved him to CF and got a power bat to hit cleanup or 5th. Varsho has better wheels than Springer who played CF.

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        • KamKid

          1 year ago

          its_happening, the metrics actually didn’t like him a bunch in LF. They loved him in CF. I was skeptical of the metrics from ’22 because he doesn’t have the kind of elite sprint speed that would lead to great CF range and he doesn’t have much of an arm, but he obviously makes really good reads and puts himself in position to make good throws. It doesn’t look graceful to the eye, but I trust the metrics enough. I think maybe he’s overrated a bit as you say, but I also think it’s more than good enough. Especially if the bat is going to perform in the way it has. I’d have much rather looked for offensive production in a corner outfield where there might have been more opportunities this offseason. As constructed now, it seems like there could be a lot riding on him breaking out offensively this season. His spring at bats looked much improved over his approach from last year so maybe that’s realistically on the table.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          They’re banking on Varsho being a legitimate all star, and for someone else to break out.

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  12. Joeypower

    1 year ago

    Baltimore is winning the East
    Yankees taking W1
    And I don’t see my Jays winning more games than the M’s.. 85 wins is my guess.

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    • MysteryWhiteBoy

      1 year ago

      That Yankees pitching staff is gonna have a hell of a time keeping pace until Cole gets back

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    • Rudy Zolteck

      1 year ago

      It’s fashionable to hate the Empire, but I don’t dislike the Yankees’ chances this year, though a big part of that is going to be which Rodon and Stroman they’re getting. If both overcome being held together by hot glue and tape, I think NYY might have something cooking this year.

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  13. farscott

    1 year ago

    Signing IKF to trade Espinal did not make sense to me.. Espinal is less expensive with better offense. Addison Barger looked decent in Dunedin this spring with much the same skillset as IKF. So I do not see the depth piece need making IKF a need.

    Baserunning this spring was not good. There was more than one,, “Did that just happen moment?” on the base paths. Hopefully that will improve.

    Tiedemann impressed me in the two games in which I saw him play. I could see him doing one-to-three innings of relief in some games this year. Not sure he is anywhere close to being ready to start.

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    • Canuckleball

      1 year ago

      Nobody gets the IKF deal, Including Atkins. Pretty sure he woke up the next morning with a hangover and called Shapiro asking what he did the day before…

      “…I did what?!”

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      • Dustyslambchops23

        1 year ago

        It’s standard atkins, he makes a plan but then doesn’t adapt. Sometimes it works out, but other times his big trade deadline pick up is a reliever when the team is struggling to score runs.

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  14. brucenewton

    1 year ago

    500 at best probably.

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  15. DarkSide830

    1 year ago

    Very C.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      1 year ago

      Generous.

      Given where they are in their window, the impeding Orioles dynasty, and how good their pitching/D was last year, it’s hard for me to give them anything besides an F.

      They rushed the market to secure IKF, when if they waited they could have got much or equally as good players for much cheaper.

      They have their highest payroll of all time and are still a Bo Bichette injury away from a last place finish. I’ve never seen fans as frustrated as last season, and the way it ended + the offseason has only made matters worse.

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  16. YourDreamGM

    1 year ago

    D. They tried a lil. Filled holes with some old guys. They looked promising at one point but never seemed to go for it super hard. Now their 2 young stars are near free agency. Farm system isn’t impressive. Did better than the White Sox and probably Miami who both did much better than Detroit KC.

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  17. Andujar

    1 year ago

    Offensive Coordinator

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  18. SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs

    1 year ago

    Solid 81 win team

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  19. CTS4

    1 year ago

    ” Ross can do better ” Shapiro’s joke !!

    Reply
  20. Pete Cruise

    1 year ago

    This clubs downhill slide started with the supposed plane ride to Toronto. Once crybaby players realized Ohtani was going to get close to 600+ mill., they bailed.
    The only ones left to sign were players looking to prove they could still play, and players who are triple A borderline MLB ready talent. Thus the reasons they signed: Turner, Vogelbach, Votto, Keirmaier, (End of Careers)..Falefa (Borderline AAA player).
    The other issue is that they went all in with Manoah thinking that he was in a funk and giving him space to find his rhythm will fix everything.
    What they should have done is scrapped that junker and brought in anything else that could have been salvaged.

    I see this team contending when healthy. But if injuries to multiple key players go longer than 12-14 days… I see the wheels falling off very quickly.

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  21. OilCanLloyd

    1 year ago

    I think there’s general regression across the ALE, cept Baltimore. It’s not the strongest division in baseball after this offseason.
    I got Tor at 87 wins. Team not that diff from last year. 90
    If Vlad jr. Shows up!

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