Brewers, Dodgers Pursuing Hoffman
11:27pm: Ken Rosenthal says the Brewers have emerged as the frontrunner for Hoffman.
10:19pm: Bill Shaikin says Hoffman will make his decision Thursday. Kevin Towers said tonight that the Padres "just don’t have the money" to retain their longtime closer. He added that if Hoffman would’ve accepted their $4MM offer they it would’ve been hard to exercise Brian Giles‘ $9MM option.
9:07pm: Tom Haudricourt spoke with Doug Melvin and Melvin believes that the Brewers have a legitimate shot at landing Hoffman. He does not believe the team is not being used to drive up the offer from the Dodgers. Melvin is confident based on his previous work with agent Rick Thurman. Melvin and Thurman have agreed to speak again tomorrow morning.
4:11pm: Jon Heyman believes the Brewers are making a stronger move for Hoffman.
3:36pm: Both offers from the Dodgers and Brewers are for one year with a club option, and both exceed $4MM. Hoffman’s agent (Rick Thurman) expects to have a deal within 48 hours. A requirement of Hoffman signing is that he is the closer. The Brewers have not heard back today from Thurman yet.
11:19am: Brown has confirmed that the Brewers made an offer as well.
WEDNESDAY, 8:43am: Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times says the Dodgers offered Hoffman a one-year contract worth more than $4MM. Hoffman would take the ninth inning in L.A. Buster Olney confirms the one-year offer as well, but neither Olney nor Shaikin mention the club option Brown did.
TUESDAY, 11:11pm: Yahoo’s Tim Brown says the Dodgers offered Hoffman a one-year deal with a club option. Brown suspects the Brewers have made an offer as well. Hoffman is "thought to prefer Southern California," though he might have to take a setup role in L.A. At this point, the Padres have not reconciled with Hoffman or restored their offer.
8:16pm: Haudricourt says the Brewers have to battle geography if they hope to win the Hoffman sweepstakes.
6:37pm: Hoffman is in discussion with the Brewers over the "parameters of a contract" according to Ken Rosenthal. His source, who has knowledge of the negotiations, says, "It’s got legs."
5:37pm: Jon Heyman echoes the Brewers and Dodgers are in the running and that Hoffman "could sign in coming days." Heyman reiterates Hoffman’s interest to say close to his "home base" in Anaheim, CA.
1:21pm: Hoffman’s agent says they have mutual interest with the Brewers, though Haudricourt got the impression they may seek two years.
10:13am: Tom Haudricourt talked to Brewers GM Doug Melvin, who indicated Trevor Hoffman is the team’s top choice to fill the closer role. The two sides have talked parameters and Melvin hopes to learn his chances soon as discussions continue. The Brewers’ main competition might be the Dodgers, but Hoffman would have a lock on the ninth inning in Milwaukee. Haudricourt believes the Brewers want to do a one-year deal with an option.
Perrotto’s Latest: Peavy, Giles, Wilson, Putz
MONDAY: Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg Times found no indications the Rays have talked with the Padres and Cubs about getting in on the Peavy talks to acquire Giles.
SUNDAY: The latest from Baseball Prospectus’ John Perrotto:
- Perrotto speaks of a "wild rumor" – the Rays could be the third team in a Jake Peavy-Cubs trade, with Tampa Bay acquiring Brian Giles. Would he waive his no-trade clause to play there? One way or another, Kevin Towers wants five players back for Peavy.
- The Tigers are backing off Jack Wilson, as they consider Adam Everett his equal. They’d like to use Jeff Larish in a trade for Michigan native J.J. Putz if possible.
Odds and Ends: Teixeira, Giles, Beimel
Links for Wednesday…
- You can hear me on Lenny Melnick’s radio show at about 7:15pm CST.
- The Marlins could be an interesting long shot for Raul Ibanez, but he’d have to leave significant money on the table.
- Indians manager Eric Wedge really wants the team to bring in a closer.
- George King likes Jason Giambi for the Rays; Cork Gaines imagines the negotiations.
- Jesse Spector talking to Brewers GM Doug Melvin, who wasn’t in a revealing mood.
- Tony Massarotti expects the Red Sox to make a huge offer to Mark Teixeira.
- Padres outfielder Brian Giles doesn’t expect to be traded this winter. If the team is in the tank next summer he might approve a deal, perhaps contingent on a contract extension.
- Jacob Jackson says Kevin Towers has handled the Jake Peavy negotiations poorly so far.
- Former Reds GM Wayne Krivsky could end up in Baltimore’s front office.
- Bernie Williams is still not ready to retire.
- Derrick Goold believes the Cardinals have $17-21MM to spend.
- At least six clubs are in on Joe Beimel. The Tigers are one, while the Cardinals, Rockies, and Mets may be others.
The Trevor Hoffman Situation
In a post on his blog, Padres exec Paul DePodesta outlines the progression of the Trevor Hoffman negotiations (and also explains why exercising Brian Giles‘ option was an easy call). Tom Krasovic also provides details, including quotes from Hoffman’s agent Rick Thurman.
- Thurman believes the $4MM offer for ’09 (with a club option at the same salary for ’10) was insincere. He feels the Padres never intended to sign Hoffman and calls the chances of a deal "miniscule." Hoffman is also upset that owner John Moores did not want to meet with him. Plus, Thurman seems annoyed that Towers contacted Hoffman directly regarding the Moores meeting.
- On the Padres’ side, CEO Sandy Alderson notes that the offer was not of the "take it or leave it" variety and it is not common let an offer sit for a prolonged period of time. Thurman did not a make a counteroffer, and the Padres never wanted these negotiations to be public.
- This is not a black and white situation. While the Padres’ initial offer was low, the two sides could’ve kept things private and met in the middle in the $5.75MM range. I also think Moores should’ve been willing to meet with Hoffman, as this is not a normal player negotiation.
- If Hoffman does leave, Thurman considers the Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Mets, Indians, Angels, and Rangers potential suitors. Why no mention of the Tigers? Jim Baumbach likes Hoffman for the Mets.
Odds and Ends: Pettitte, Zaun, Blanco
Links for Tuesday…
- Scott Bordow feels the D’Backs and Randy Johnson should meet at $5MM, which still seems light.
- David Murphy explains why the Phillies make more sense than the Mariners for Jamie Moyer, geographically.
- David Ortiz would like the Red Sox to add a 30 home run bat.
- Richard Justice wants the Astros to sign both Randy Wolf and Andy Pettitte. He says the Cubs and Cardinals will be talking to Pettitte even though his heart is with the Yankees.
- El Lefty Malo recommends the Giants sign Derek Lowe. The Giants are at least considering the big-ticket free agents.
- Jeff Blair runs through a few options for the Blue Jays if A.J. Burnett leaves.
- Free agent catcher Gregg Zaun is not pleased with Jays GM J.P. Ricciardi.
- The D’Backs want Miguel Montero showcased as a catcher.
- Ken Davidoff has a list of nine intriguing (and older) free agents.
- Joel Sherman joins Buster Olney in saying Brian Giles vetoed a trade to the A’s in August, after the Red Sox won the claim and failed to make a deal. How is this possible?
- Geovany Soto expects Henry Blanco to re-sign with the Cubs.
- Tony Massarotti looks at possible trade partners for the Red Sox.
Olney: A’s Nearly Acquired Giles
Interesting note from Buster Olney’s Sunday blog post:
San Diego nearly dealt Brian Giles to Boston and later to Oakland during the season, and it stands to reason that this winter the Padres will approach Giles about waiving his no-trade rights to facilitate a trade out of San Diego. (As of Saturday evening, they had not done this.)
We knew that Giles vetoed a trade to Boston and would’ve probably done the same if the Rays won the claim. Olney indicates that Giles was nearly dealt to the A’s later during August, which is confusing given that Boston won the claim and failed to make a trade.
Giles now has full no-trade powers as a 10-and-5 player, and apparently receives a $2MM raise if dealt. He revealed new information regarding his Boston veto on Friday. He would’ve spent significant time on the bench for the Red Sox, and the Sox would’ve turned around and traded him this winter. Furthermore, staying with San Diego allowed Giles to secure the 10-and-5 rights. He seems more open to a deal now: "If it would help our organization get better, I’m not saying I would veto a trade."
Padres Exercise Brian Giles’ Option
As expected, the Padres chose Brian Giles‘ $9MM option over the $3MM buyout today. Giles, 38 in January, hit .306/.398/.456 in 653 plate appearances this year. Defensively, he saved 20 bases compared to the average right fielder. Padres exec Paul DePodesta notes that Giles probably would’ve accepted an offer of arbitration.
Giles would be a great addition for teams like the Cubs, Phillies, Braves, and Rays, but he has full no-trade power. Before he was granted full rights, Giles could be traded only to the Braves, Giants, Dodgers, D’Backs, and Rockies without his permission. So maybe the Padres can work something out with Atlanta if the Braves if both parties have interest.
Rosenthal’s Latest: Furcal, Bradley, Greinke
Another day, another Ken Rosenthal column.
- The A’s have payroll flexibility, and are expressing "strong interest" in free agent shortstop Rafael Furcal. Bobby Crosby is set to earn $5.25MM in ’09, but it makes sense to upgrade.
- Contrary to previous reports, Rosenthal says the Tigers are not in on Furcal. They’ll also pass on Francisco Rodriguez, which was expected.
- Rosenthal discusses possible fits for Milton Bradley, including the Rays, Rangers, Blue Jays, Mets, Cardinals, and Phillies. It will be hard to overlook the health risk and give Bradley a three-year deal, especially for an NL club.
- Rosenthal confirms interest in Khalil Greene from the Orioles and Reds. The Blue Jays and Tigers have also been mentioned.
- There’s no way the Phillies can afford Manny Ramirez; a look at their ’09 commitments makes that clear.
- The Royals hope to sign Zack Greinke and Alex Gordon to long-term extensions. Rosenthal feels trade discussions could pick up for Greinke if the Royals can’t sign him. Keith Law said the same yesterday.
- The Padres will exercise Brian Giles‘ $9MM option in the next day or two.
Padres Rumors: Hoffman, Giles
Padres GM Kevin Towers has more on his plate than just Jake Peavy and Khalil Greene – he also has to deal with Trevor Hoffman and Brian Giles.
Towers talked to Hoffman’s agent about a week ago; he submitted an offer two weeks ago. ESPN’s Buster Olney said the offer was $4MM for ’09 and a club option for ’10.
The Padres have until Saturday to make a decision on Giles’ $9MM option (it has a $3MM buyout). Towers says he’s leaning toward exercising it before the weekend.
Odds and Ends: Yankees, Lowe, D’Backs
Links for Thursday…
- Peter Abraham takes a look at the Yankees’ first base options. The Royals could match up on a trade, if the Yanks are willing to try an unproven player.
- A pair of free agent bargains from Dave Cameron: Randy Johnson and Derek Lowe. What kind of salary will Lowe command?
- Free agent reliever Will Ohman hopes to remain in Atlanta.
- Braves GM Frank Wren has already talked to every team about his needs in left field and the rotation.
- Nick Piecoro looks at the D’Backs’ offseason needs. Will there be room in the budget to make the necessary improvements?
- The A’s have five days to decide on Alan Embree‘s $3MM option, according to Susan Slusser. Embree profiles as a Type B free agent.
- The Padres have ten days to decide between Brian Giles‘ $9MM option and his $3MM buyout. It’s an easy call to exercise the option.
